Want to see another one? Dig up stats on police shootings and police use of force. The media will have you believe that American policing is nothing but racist thugs shooting everyone. But the statistics will prove to you that police involved shootings and use of force has been steadily declining for 50 years Here's NYPD https://images.app.goo.gl/oon2XAzL2ix78PzM8And of course, the point is, that police are thugs, and that lately, because of all the Internet communications, and because of all the police brutality websites, cops are becoming more and more scared to do their thuggery. So, it isn't that cops ware becoming honest, or are becoming noble. Rather, its that their hand is being called. Cities hire cops. If the cities really wanted to get rid of the bad element among them, they would arm everyone. But the city leaders want to dominate their citizens. So they hire cops... who step over the limits a bit sometimes. If the city leaders wanted fair play, they would arm the citizens and fire the cops.  No, the point is exactly what the statistics show, regardless of your skewed mentality |
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I know this post is gonna trigger all of you. trump shills and PETA libs alike but its gotta be said.
Donald Trump AND the libs are the worst thing to happen to puerto rico. Im not talking bout the hurricane here either.
The 2018 FARM BILL, which the libs pushed and Donald Trump signed into law made cockfighting illegal. All the libs in here
are thinking great because theyve never actually been to a cockfight and dont know what it intails. Ill tell you.
Cockfighting has been going on for thousands of years. Our ancestors were raising cocks since the Romans were fighting in coliseums.
Its a cultural tradition that is far older than any other sport, even baseball and basketball and football.
If you were a chicken would you rather spend your entire life in a cage where you cant even turn around and then get slaughtered and put in some mcnuggets?
Or do you want to be raised and trained with love and care allowed to wander free around a farm and die in a glorious battle after several years? For me Id rather
be the fighter.
Thousands of Puerto Ricans both on the island and the mainland were training gamecocks. We have over 100 clubs and a booming industry and all of a sudden Donald Trump criminalized all these peoples livelihood. Cockfighting was a $100M industry on Puerto Rico. Fuck donald trump and fuck the libs.
When Government makes laws about something, they make definitions. If the term "cockfight" or "cockfighting" is defined in the Government law, Government can only do something when their terms applie. The thing to do is form a Private Membership Association (PMA). This is where people sign up for something that they are doing privately, not in the public where Government controls things. Current major PMAs are formed for legal and medical groups. Because it is private and not public, these groups are exempt from much of the legal harassment that normally comes from Government. In legal PMAs, all kinds of people can advise other people about legal matters without being charged with giving legal advice. In medical PMAs, all kinds of people can do medical procedures on others, and medical professionals can do un-approved medical procedures on others without the threat of losing their license. Form a cock-fighting PMA. Everyone who wants to join in the fun has to sign up to the PMA to get in, and Government is not allowed in, because their legal terms don't fit what is being done in private. So, it isn't cock fighting to Government, even though everyone inside the PMA calls it cock-fighting. Check out here https://duckduckgo.com/?q=private+membership+association&t=h_&ia=web and here https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=private+membership+association for an overview of what's going on. Oh cool so we can form a PMA for prostitution, kiddie porn, and drug dens ? |
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Yeah, you're right. It was a terrible analogy.
I should've said something like..... you should've known this was coming, find a new line of work.
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Opium has been used for thousands of years.
Govt control of the opium market has put many poppy farmers out of business.
Shame, right?
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Want to see another one? Dig up stats on police shootings and police use of force. The media will have you believe that American policing is nothing but racist thugs shooting everyone. But the statistics will prove to you that police involved shootings and use of force has been steadily declining for 50 years Here's NYPD https://images.app.goo.gl/oon2XAzL2ix78PzM8 |
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Not saying the scam is this thread, but lately, scammers offering escrow do so for a few well know bitcointalk members...then...others say, hell, if
they are on board, when asked, they waive escrow....the original well know bitcointalk members also don't get the devices but do get their BTC back
via escrow and pay the modest fee...so not out anything. rinse/wash/repeat
just keep this in mind if you see folk do escrow through any sales thread...follow through on such and don't be talked out of such...at worst you will
not get the item and get all your BTC back minus the escrow fee
just a word of caution seen this scam on the altcoins thread and other places on bitcointalk
so ..again..just follow through on escrow on anything you buy on bitcointalk IMHO. Don't be talked out of it.
Also, PayPal CAN BE reversed, so don't assume that works either if they offer it as an alternative
later
brad
edit: that said, using escrow on this purchase thread hopefully will get you the items the OP mentioned and all is just dandy here. Not a slam of the OP.
Just folks should be aware.
Same thing happened in another thread. The guy offering 25% discount on Bitmain products. Well known member took the deal and did escrow. Then when I responded, poster said he was unable to front the money, and I should just "trust" him. Escrow deal fell thru, no one else took the bait. So, I offered him oceanfront property in Colorado |
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Sounds very suspicious. There is no way he would have one in stock and the price is too low.
Agreed, thats why i asked what I did. Thank you for your input. If anyone interested pm at my email cause i'm limites here with pms, I will use any trusted escrow from the bitcointalk list so no need for spam i will NEVER ask you or anyone else for any money upfront thank you. Please answer here in the thread..... How did you obtain an S17e already ? |
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Sounds very suspicious. There is no way he would have one in stock and the price is too low.
Agreed, thats why i asked what I did. Thank you for your input. |
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Sounds like a deal. Do you have the unit in hand? Thought they hadn't shipped out of China yet? Why are you selling?
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I never got a response when emailing their "info@" address. Miner friend of mine called and spoke to Mr Scott, and we've communicated previously via this email address....... robdscott@varispin.comI've probably exchanged 4-5 emails with Rob. I am under the belief that he's back n forth to China often as part of his job. Here's a copy n paste of one of his responses to me when I inquired about the Starlight unit, after they had to cancel their S17 pro orders: Jeff, How are you? Yeah sorry for the whole Bitmain fiasco. Good things we have our Starlite miner coming in. We still have around 50 or so units for Sept 15-25th delivery schedule from my factory in China. Please visit the website www.varispin.com and click on crypto miners to see the specs. We just did an amazing software upgrade and are now hitting 53TH with the machine. This is amazing and we should sell out quickly. Thank you for your interest. Robert Douglas Scott MIAMI OFFICE: 2000 Ponce De Leon Suite 500 -Coral Gables, FL 33134 CHINA OFFICE: 公司地址：深圳市南山区科技南八路2号豪威科技大厦21楼2101室 Main-754-888-3328 www.varispin.com |
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How many puppets can you put on the same stage, offering "free" stuff.
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Went right over your head
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The device normally known as a gun is not a gun when it becomes my property. What does it become, then? It becomes "property." Why? Because I said so. If government says that it is a gun, what ownership do they have vested in my property? Show me the government ownership paperwork. I can show my property ownership paperwork. If the government continues to call my property a gun (or firearm), they are threatening trespass on my property. If they actively mess with me or my property, they are trespassers and wrongdoers... except, of course, if I have formally directly threatened someone or actually harmed someone. I will sue anyone who messes with my property without my authorization. I don't need any stinkin' Second Amendment regarding my property, even though it looks like a gun, smells like a gun, and shoots like a gun. It isn't a gun. It's my property. Property rights are greater than gun rights. Property rights are greater than firearm designations. Property rights are the basis for all rights. Yeah, rumor has it.... if you get arrested for unlawfully carrying a firearm or possession of drugs, you can just tell the cops or judge that the gun wasn't a firearm, the heroin wasn't drugs, it was personal property.... and they're all like "my bad, you can go, sorry"  |
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"Gun Control" will not work. Period.
Let's say you manage to abolish the Second Amendment and outlaw all guns. Guns are now illegal.
You think that will work?
Look how well it's worked for drugs.
Gun laws only affect the people who follow the law.
Why dont we just make murder illegal, then no one will shoot anyone.
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@philipma1957
Do you think the T17 38Th/s for 1145USD is a good price?
I think it is. Considering they sell for $3000-4000 on eBay or Amazon. Efficiency is not quite as good as an S17, but the ROI would be quicker. If you have the physical set-up for them (enough power, exhaust set-up), you can buy 2 T17's for 80 TH, for less than one S17 at 60-64TH |
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I may have an old school mentality on this subject, due to my age. I think the public education system should teach/familiarize kids with today's technology, but there's no reason EVERY child in the school district should have a laptop provided by the school. The only thing it's doing is costing the taxpayers. I grew up with chalkboards, overhead projectors, pen and paper, no a/c in the classroom. We had typing classes on "fancy" typewriters. Computers were introduced later in my education by way of a "computer lab", or one classroom full of desktop computer. Some new-fangled tech like the Commodore 64. We all turned out just fine, and probably more level-headed than today's youth. I graduated High School, chose the military over college, and consider myself above middle class with a 6 figure salary. I do lack technical expertise, but know how to use computers and programs, and do so when needed. ( but I still cant get the clock on my VCR to stop flashing 12:00)  |
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Thread can be deleted. I have one ordered already
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Yes, US office in Miami.
I've emailed the rep a few times. Shipment expected mid-sept.
And they're supposedly a real company, so I was able to purchase on a credit card..... so, easy resolution if they are not legit
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Not 100% sure yet. I also ordered a unit from Varispin Tech to try out. 48-53Th @3000w. That should arrive this month. Wasn't thrilled with the efficiency, but it was better than two s9's, and at the time of order, it was easier to buy than anything on eBay (scams), (and I didnt have enough btc in my wallet to order from Bitmain yet).
In short, I have 6plugs. Currently running one s17 56th, one s17 pro 50, and one s9i.
On order, one Varispin Starlight miner (sept), one S17e (nov).
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