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2561  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: December 09, 2020, 12:55:27 AM
Vaccine Update: Pfizer is rolling out in the UK. Ironic that a U.S. company is having it's vaccines roll out in Europe first but that's another story.

I don't believe the U.S. will reach a large number of vaccinated people voluntarily.

Especially with some people reporting adverse conditions when Pfizer was testing the dosages. Some reported averse affects during the second dose. People need to understand that this vaccine requires you to get one shot, and another a short time later - https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/08/pfizer-moderna-covid-vaccine-side-effects-trials.html

If you are morbidly/clinically obese, you should get a vaccine oppose to stuffing twinkies down your throat. If you are old, you should get the vaccine.

If you are young and healthy, or middle aged and healthy, I don't think there is a large incentive to get the vaccine. It will be up to personal choice but there is no way in hell public health officials are going to convince Americans that this vaccine is safe given the fact they have long lost public confidence when flip flopping on masks, seemingly indicating BLM are completely fine but going to thanksgiving dinners are killing grandma, so on, so forth.


Dr. Facui and nursing home killer Andrew Cuomo had a lovely conversation - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci5W2kCn8vI

As a side note - this is why no one trusts Dr. Facui. Having a conversation with all the left wing talk show hosts and democratic governors while he was wrong on masks, wrong on school reopening, and wrong on T cell immunity is what causes people to have pause. But somehow, Kamala Harris on a debate stage said that she would take a vaccine if Dr. Fauci said it would be safe and would not take a vaccine under Trump.

2562  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Kracken! on: December 08, 2020, 10:03:33 PM
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Sydney Powell takes the cake for #1 grifter.


On another note - SCOTUS seemed to reject a Trump lawsuit to stop PA from certifying the results - https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/supreme-court-trump-pennsylvania-election-results/2020/12/08/4d39e16c-397d-11eb-98c4-25dc9f4987e8_story.html

If this is any indication of how they'll respond to other lawsuits, this means they won't be overturning the election results.
2563  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Its time to stop calling the left progressive, because they are the opposite on: December 07, 2020, 11:33:46 AM
These days Progressive actually means Globalist Neo-marxist.

no they just pretend to be that, in the end they want to defund the police and run the society but ethnic gangs and racists

Defunding the police is insane in my opinion. Who comes up with these ideas. Honestly, people don't need the police when everything is going well. But wgar if someone breaks into your house? Imagine you can't reach any police officer anymore and just get an automated answering service who will call you back in 12-36h? Its just crazy to assume we could live in a world without police.

Far left people on Twitter, yes, Twitter, come up with the idea. Then democrats, because they are spineless, will bend the knee to mob rule and implement policies that are extraordinarily unpopular that're voiced by a small minority.

AOC is the face of the democratic party. I wish I was being hyperbolic, but considering Kamala Harris sponsored AOC's Green New Deal, it's clear the moderate lane is afraid of pissing off the far left.
2564  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you think COVID19 is a scam? on: December 05, 2020, 12:27:09 AM
Children are not prime transmission vectors for COVID and in the UK, it was not determined that schools were responsible for the uptick in cases.

i guess you missed the news where they had to close schools often and also universities. where they actually had to put alot of mobile test centres on uni campuses to test them.
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it got to a point where instead of whole year groups(grades) having to isolate because schools had year/grade 'bubbles' they had to change it to class size bubbles. due to how often isolations were being triggered. then they had to try to organise it as smaller 'bubbles' otherwise kids would be off school more then they would be in school


oh and also this month give uni students the new rapid tests to ensure that students tested negative before returning from dorms to family homes to ensure they dont spread it..

.. if it was not a thing. then they would not have needed to put so much effort into schools and uni's.

the only reason UK tried so hard to put kids back into school/uni. was due to the economic decision not a health decision. purely because while kids where home, so were their parents. which hindered economic growth and cost gov more money in furlough payments.
yep it was an economic choice.

same as america. they want kids to go back to school so that parents can start earning at work again.
heck even the conspiracy nutters that think education is some brainwashing institute want their kids to go back purely so the parents can go back to work. again economics.
they dont like having to look after their kids 24/7. the parents want a break from their own kids.

the funny part is during march-august where kids were at home. ofcourse they didnt cause spread.. because they were already at home.
butas soon as they started going back to school. cases amungst kids and then their family the following week went up.
yep
in the UK certain businesses are saying they should not be shutdown. such as hairdressers/barbers/pubs because they say that the spread is not due to their business but happening within the home due to their kids school and then to parents

so i know you probably want an excuse to put kids back into school in america.. but right now while america is seeing a second wave rise, not fall.. trying to push for actions that will increase the rise wont be successful plea.
also its the christmas season where schools/uni's are starting to winde down and shut anyway for christmas break. so another reason why its the wrong time to beg to send kids to school, they are not going to learn much if you sent them to school for the next 2 weeks.

..
just a few of the many UK news in just the last 2 weeks regarding schools(search google if you want more)
50 fold rise in school infections
daughter asymptomatic passes to parent that ends up in intensive care
schools beg for rapid tests and shutting schools early for christmas to get cases down



The U.S. also closed schools which turned out to be a mistake as the AAP, comprised of medical doctors who work with children, has suggested that schools should be open.

Evidence that the UK closed schools does not mean it was done so rightfully with evidence of community spread taking place at schools. There is not evidence of this.


.. if it was not a thing. then they would not have needed to put so much effort into schools and uni's.


Why are you not considering the possibility that officials were wrong to close down schools? Top U.S. doctor Fauci said schools should be open, and other medical doctors also say the same thing.

Teachers unions fought to have schools closed, not like they were operating based on science or children's best interest.
2565  Other / Politics & Society / Re: "Former Congressman Proposes Giving $1,500 Stimulus for COVID Vaccine" on: December 04, 2020, 11:48:10 PM
Doing this or giving out a tax break is the only way people are going to take this thing. You need something like 70 percent of the population to have antibodies for herd immunity, and it's a tough sale to convince Americans to get a vaccine for something with a 99.5+ survival rate.

Another bold prediction of mine is that universities might require its students to receive a COVID vaccine in order to be in class or they might have to sign some sort of exclusion wavier.
2566  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Kracken! on: December 04, 2020, 06:22:13 PM
Regardless of whether those ballots are valid or not, there is no excuse for not having any poll watchers present. This is in fact evidence of fraud.

Perhaps you should actually read what Georgia's SOS office had to say about this event before jumping on the conspiratardery train. For example, nobody asked the poll watchers to leave. If they left on their own that doesn't prevent the counting from continuing, for obvious reasons.

This is also a state which magically found 2300 uncounted votes due to human error only uncovered during an audit. Forgive me for not trusting incompetent government officials that couldn't do their job for the life of them.

What you're saying could be in fact what happened. I'm also curious if the poll watchers were aware that ballots would continue to be counted without them there and whether any of them thought they were required to leave. Who told the Georgia SoS office that the poll watchers were allowed to stay? Was it the election supervisors? Because presumably they would not be a credible source. Counting ballots at 4AM after grabbing them from suitcases isn't all that transparent.
2567  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Kracken! on: December 04, 2020, 09:54:36 AM
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I'm actually interested in any evidence and would give it a shot. Where is it?


I've read affidavits of alleged voter fraud, which doesn't serve as proof. But even then, the affidavits themselves don't contain enough voter fraud to overturn entire states if the allegations ended up being true.

The Trump team isn't even going for voter fraud in their legal battles. Seems like they're just trying to get mail in ballots thrown out. Don't blame them, mail in voting is nonsense.

Edit: Instead of posting a useless screen shot, I looked into the story: https://www.cbs46.com/news/lawmakers-hear-bombshell-allegations-of-georgia-election-fraud/article_8404e930-35e5-11eb-8ac3-1fc96e3b52d8.html

This is interesting to say the least and if this ends up being true, this is in fact election fraud and a bomb shell. Video seems to show some poll workers ushering out people then taking out suitcases of ballots under a table and resume counting.

Regardless of whether those ballots are valid or not, there is no excuse for not having any poll watchers present. This is in fact evidence of fraud. The source I posted above had one senator questioning whether the footage was valid which is probably a bad sign for democrats because you can't CGI your way into faking CCTV security footage of an event that took place.

I'm looking forward to more info here because this is shady as fuck, and *if* it turns out the video is how it seems, then this is concrete evidence of fraud that legitimizes Trump's effort to contest the results.
2568  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you think COVID19 is a scam? on: December 04, 2020, 09:50:42 AM

Friendly reminder that Dr. Fauci, after literal months of ignoring the American Academy of Pediatrics who stated in June that schools should be open, now up until these last couple weeks recognized that schools should be open. But apparently dem's feel safe when someone like this is in charge.

its not that simple.
although kids themselves do not die as much. they are still spreaders. and when in a classroom of 30+ kids in close proximity. thats 30x families interacting essentially.
also by kids being at school, parents are then less likely to want to stay home/work from home. so parents too would be going back to work/socialising more which adds onto the excess of points of contact.

Find me a single source that states schools are the source for super spreader events.

Children are not prime transmission vectors for COVID and in the UK, it was not determined that schools were responsible for the uptick in cases.
2569  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you think COVID19 is a scam? on: December 03, 2020, 11:50:02 PM
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/residents-in-city-of-los-angeles-ordered-to-remain-in-their-homes-amid-covid-19-surge/

New California restrictions. You can't even go for a walk in your own street block unless it's deemed "essential."

Remember not even a month ago when Gavin Newsome was disobeying CDC guidelines to attend some snobby dinner? https://www.foxla.com/news/fox-11-obtains-exclusive-photos-of-gov-newsom-at-french-restaurant-allegedly-not-following-covid-19-protocols

Remember folks, apparently it was orange Hitler's fault that COVID19 spread and that democrats/Joe Biden is going to take this thing super seriously. I'll have whatever dem's are smoking to not recognize how duped they got by the MSM into thinking democrats were better equipped to handled this pandemic.

Also, Joe Biden apparently asked Dr. Fauci to be on his COVID19 response team.

Friendly reminder that Dr. Fauci, after literal months of ignoring the American Academy of Pediatrics who stated in June that schools should be open, now up until these last couple weeks recognized that schools should be open. But apparently dem's feel safe when someone like this is in charge.

2570  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Kracken! on: December 03, 2020, 10:18:07 PM
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-lawyer-sidney-powell-georgia-runoff-boycott_n_5fc811cac5b6933ec7dc2e05

Sidney Powell is saying Republicans should boycott the Georgia senate elections.

This person is a grifter and I now consider anyone that continues to believe a word she says dumber than a sack of rocks. This undoubtedly proves she is full of shit.
2571  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bitcoin lobby group on: December 03, 2020, 04:37:23 AM
Bitcion is here to stay.
Crypto currency is the future

While I'm not really a fan of gravedigging this thread, it does work in terms of continuing the conversation about this.

A special interest Bitcoin group...hmm. Interesting.

Who are the big bitcoin players that are hammered by U.S. regulation? Is Bitcoin even heavily regulated enough?

All I can think of are companies like Bitpay/coinbase and what would the lobby for? To make Bitcoin tax free  Grin

People that would lobby for Bitcoin would probably include the exchanges, mining organizations, investors who want to have like kind exchanges and some leniency when it comes to going from BTC --> Stablecoin --> Altcoin --> Bitcoin, maybe some companies like BlockFi / Holdnaut to allow for better tax issues relating to interest gained on BTC.

Just some thoughts.

Lobbying groups are around for everything. Probably would be best to try to start on the state level to fix up some of the worst regulatory issue (See: BitLicense in NY)

I see the exchanges possibly dabbling into lobbying but I wonder what mining organizations have the funds to pay for lobbying.

Complete guess and I could be totally wrong, but the major financial institutions seems to be against Bitcoin and of course, the financial institutions have damn near unlimited lobbying power.
2572  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bitcoin lobby group on: December 03, 2020, 01:37:27 AM
A special interest Bitcoin group...hmm. Interesting.

Who are the big bitcoin players that are hammered by U.S. regulation? Is Bitcoin even heavily regulated enough?

All I can think of are companies like Bitpay/coinbase and what would the lobby for? To make Bitcoin tax free  Grin
2573  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Kracken! on: December 01, 2020, 09:03:16 PM
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-elections-william-barr-b1f1488796c9a98c4b1a9061a6c7f49d

I remember distinctly liberals throwing a tantrum that Bill Barr was going to look for election irregularities or fraud using the Justice department.

Now they celebrate they found nothing and are using this to demonstrate no election fraud. I don't think there was fraud, to be clear, but I also remember how people thought Trump was weaponizing his DoJ, so you really can't win.

And I just parked my car, drove home listening on the radio to testimony of whistle blowers, regular truck drivers being asked to go to odd places with their loads of election ballots.

Guess we're in different universes!


They give radio time to those clowns?

I was hoping some of these people would actually produce some evidence, but instead they would rather play games and go on the radio for their 10 seconds of fame. It's over, states already certified their electors. We can't change that.
2574  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Kracken! on: December 01, 2020, 08:22:45 PM
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-elections-william-barr-b1f1488796c9a98c4b1a9061a6c7f49d

I remember distinctly liberals throwing a tantrum that Bill Barr was going to look for election irregularities or fraud using the Justice department.

Now they celebrate they found nothing and are using this to demonstrate no election fraud. I don't think there was fraud, to be clear, but I also remember how people thought Trump was weaponizing his DoJ, so you really can't win.
2575  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Abortion is the leading cause of death during the pandemic, killing 37 million on: December 01, 2020, 10:06:50 AM
I agree that a woman has pro-choice. But in this way:

If a student takes out loans to go to school in the pursuit of a career, and later finds out that the career isn't something that they want, or later realizes that they will never be able to pay back the school loans, Does such nullify the loan contracts? Of course not. They still need to deal with repaying the loans, even if it is through bankruptcy.

So, if a woman makes a contract for sex with a man, and later finds out there is a pregnancy involved, her pro-choice was to place herself in the way of making a baby, even if she didn't know that such would happen. She made the deal. She exercised her freedom. She got the results of her choice (or carelessness). Now deal with it and raise the kid, or put the child up for adoption (bankruptcy). But don't murder the new human life.

Cool

again badecker. a sex contract is not a pregnancy contract. you really need to get out your basement and start dating.
maybe then when you ask a woman back to your basement for the night and say
'lets come back to mine and make babies'
vs
'lets come back to mine and have sex'
you will see the different reaction/response.

also the college student does have a 'get out' clause for the debt.. its called bankruptsy

so for emphasis.
when a woman consents to sex. she is not consenting to starting a family.
please understand that.

it is one of them key details that as a man will really help you in life outside of this forum to know about..



So if your argument is that people should get a free "get out of jail" card when faced with the burden of carrying a child that they voluntarily conceived, unless they were raped of course, why stop with abortion then?

If a child is 15 days old post birth, why don't I get to change my mind then and kill the kid. It's my choice right? I produced the child?

Also, how do you sort out the contradiction of the legal system where if a person murders a pregnant woman, it counts as two murders. Why does the legal system recognize a pregnant woman as two entities?
2576  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Election Is Over What Next? on: December 01, 2020, 04:17:34 AM
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Great thing about the Trump administration was that Trump would literally tweet his thoughts at all time and anything remotely secretive would be leaked. ...

Really?

Yep. You've surely seen his Twitter, right?

Trump is a lose cannon and will tweet out his foreign policy or criticism of Republicans in congress so we don't have to guess where he is on an issue.

And of course, his administration couldn't keep anything secret.
2577  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Election Is Over What Next? on: November 30, 2020, 04:19:52 AM
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/29/politics/biden-twisted-ankle/index.html

Hoping for a quick Biden recovery.

BUT, I do wonder if Biden playing with his dog is the actual reason for his twisted ankle because if it was something like falling down the stairs which would enforce his old as shit sterotype, I would not expect transparency.

Great thing about the Trump administration was that Trump would literally tweet his thoughts at all time and anything remotely secretive would be leaked. Biden on the other hand has every syllable out of his mouth scripted by his campaign staff because he doesn't actually believe in anything on his own. Kamala Harris is the same way.
2578  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Election Is Over What Next? on: November 29, 2020, 10:19:29 AM
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/22/us/politics/biden-antony-blinken-secretary-of-state.html

Biden picks his SoS. Haven't heard of this guy at all. Looks about typical and probably has the resume for SoS. Better than Hillary Clinton...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/biden-harris-meet-mayors-covid-cases-soar-n1248596

This one's hilarious though.  John Kerry as climate czar. It's not like he'll do anything substantial, but I imagine it's just so Biden can virtue signal about how much he cares about climate change. Perhaps the progressives are dumb enough to fall for it, but we'll see.


Anthony Blinken is known to have the credentials for SOS, pretty sure he was the expected person to get it as well. Guy worked in the state dept under Clinton, one of Biden's top aides on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee about 15 yrs ago, deputy national security advisor from 2013 to 2015 and deputy sec of state from 2015 -2017 (when Obama's term ended and Trump took over)

So yeah, totally a normal Washington bureacrat that was expected to be the 'boring' return to normalcy that people elected Biden for. Here's the writeup from Axios regarding him - https://www.axios.com/biden-to-name-antony-blinken-secretary-of-state-7b27ca12-e35d-4c56-a007-134191082228.html

In regards to the point on Kerry, yeah that's all virtue signaling to the Progressives that they're going to be trying to do stuff in regards to the climate. I assume there will be some pretty big EO's right when Biden is in office as well, though those can be rolled back just like Trump rolled back Obamas EO's. Further, it's going to be a bit more interesting in regards to legal challenges on those EO's now as Trump nominated, and confirmed, a TON of new federal appeals judges.


Haven't seen much criticism from liberals for adding Washington insiders that live inside a bubble who just so happen to have been wrong on every major policy proposal over the last two decades.

John Kerry's take on the Iran Nuclear deal has been pretty brain dead and so has Anthony Blinken's. I'm trying to wrap my head around the obsession that democrat bureaucrats have with shipping piles of cash to the leading state sponsor of terrorism because for some reason, I don't really get it. Obama's foreign policy was basically sit back and let things go to shit so I can only imagine this was Obama's avenue of not escalating with Iran.

2579  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Abortion is the leading cause of death during the pandemic, killing 37 million on: November 28, 2020, 11:22:21 PM
However, it has within it the full pattern for and of the human being.
So does a skin cell, so by your logic, exfoliating is genocide.

We shouldn't judge or attack those who have chosen not to have a baby because of our belief or cultural differences.
QFT

I also believe if anyone decides to have an abortion done in an illegal or incompetent clinics, they know the risks involved and still continue negligently.
Sometimes that is their only option, because scientific illiterate backwards thinking religious nuts like BADecker here are in government.

A skin cell is not human life. It is part of the life of a human, but it will not form into a sentient being.

I'm more moderate on abortion, meaning late term abortions are cruel and borderline murder, whereas terminating a zygote isn't that big of a deal to me.

2580  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Supreme Court Cuomo Religious Decision on: November 27, 2020, 10:26:10 AM
Cuomo was unfairly targeting places of worship, especially within context of BLM rioters/protests which went on unchecked. Good on the conservatives and ACB on this decision.

If Cuomo want to apply law, then he should apply it equally everywhere. He is placing a 10 person occupancy limit for the places of worship, while his own party is encouraging rioters to march with their BLM protests where 1,000 or 2,000 people can be seen at once without any face-masks or other protective equipment. SCOTUS did the right thing by stepping in.

BTW I can understand John Roberts. He is nearing retirement and Biden is known to be very generous to those who fall in line.

I wouldn't even go that far with John Roberts. Seems like he's trying to take the court and go woke with it. His rulings are hardly consistent by any sort of constitutional philosophy with how much he jumps around with rulings. He ruled weird even prior to Biden.
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