https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-55531069New Scotland lockdowns! I have done no research into how many cases Scotland is facing besides the figure stated in the article which is a 15% positivity rate. You think lockdowns would be driven by the mortality rate and hospital capacity because it's a good thing to identify cases. You identify the cases and have those individuals isolate to prevent further spread to those more vulnerable. At least, this was the argument given to people in the US back in March -- whole purpose was to lockdown in order to reduce healthcare strain so we don't go overcapacity (every country in the first world was following this guideline). They've also closed schools which is just lovely.
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Tom Cotton is probably Trump's biggest ally in the senate. The guy always goes stumping for Trump and is quick to defend him whenever possible. He put out a statement that he does not support the Republican effort in the senate to object certification of the election results. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/04/tom-cotton-chip-roy-inject-some-logic-into-gops-alogical-electoral-college-gambit/I'm curious how many senators in the Republican effort are going to run in 2024. Seems very obvious that this is political theatre and that the senators that are supporting this useless effort are pandering to the Trumpian base so they can get their vote in 2024. |
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Trump appears to be torpedoing any chance he will get reelected in 2024 and harming the chances Republicans will retains control of the Senate. Assuming of course the recording is real. In theory, it is possible a GAN was used to make it seam as if each of the respective voices were talking. If Trump was not leaving office in two weeks, he would probably get impeached/removed from office over this. He will probably pardon everyone involved, but you really cannot defend this kind of behavior. I've already come to peace with losing both GA seats so that isn't a big deal to me. I don't think it's a good look. But Trump has openly called for votes being thrown so this is quite literally on par. Yes, quite the low bar. At this point, Trump does not have the political capital to get the 2020 Presidential election thrown out via Congress. I don't see why Trump is trying to get the election results overturned via Congress. This will only hurt Republicans in 2022, and in the GA special election in two days. Losing the special election risks legislation that will stack the cards against Republicans forever, preventing them from ever winning the Presidency again, will make it more difficult to win close House/Senate seats in the future, and will give Democrats a 4 seat advantage in the Senate. It will also likely result in a stacked Supreme Court, which could ignore any Pardon Trump gives himself/his family, and could result in Trump having to go to prison for political reasons. Overall, Trump is being stupid. Why would Trump go to prison? I think democrats will forget about him the moment he is out of office as he drifts into irrelevancy. I like to think of it like the time Trump promised a special prosecutor for Hillary Clinton. The moment he won, he dropped the act really quick. I think democrats will do the same. They'll say mean things on twitter about Trump, promising to throw him in jail to rile up their rabid follower base, and then when there is no political points to gain for attacking Trump because he's out of office, they'll move on with their lives. |
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However, I'm not seeing where he requests anything illegal if the premise Trump starts with is that the election was rigged. If you think the vote tallies were not properly tabulated, you are under the belief that you are missing votes and those votes should be found. He has tweeted about this using different words.
I'm pretty sure it's illegal to rob a bank even if you start with a (made up, unsupported by any facts) premise that the money belongs to you. Ofc Trump is reaching at straws here. I just don't understand why this is a big deal. Trump believes batshit insane conspiracy theories about dominion, voter fraud, whatever -- he asks the Georgia SoS to look at the allegations and find the votes he feels he's "owed" to make up the votes he's down. Is it stupid? Sure. Does it sound like Trump? Yep. Is democracy falling apart? No. Is this some sort of criminal offense? Nope. At best you get to call Trump a dumb fuck here or a sore loser. I somewhat agree with both.
Trump appears to be torpedoing any chance he will get reelected in 2024 and harming the chances Republicans will retains control of the Senate. Assuming of course the recording is real. In theory, it is possible a GAN was used to make it seam as if each of the respective voices were talking. If Trump was not leaving office in two weeks, he would probably get impeached/removed from office over this. He will probably pardon everyone involved, but you really cannot defend this kind of behavior. I've already come to peace with losing both GA seats so that isn't a big deal to me. I don't think it's a good look. But Trump has openly called for votes being thrown so this is quite literally on par. Yes, quite the low bar. |
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Because this thread is about Georgia, I figured I'd post this here... https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.htmlSo apparently this is actually a big deal? I first read this and thought this sounds like what he basically tweets about in public, but this is blowing up. He asks the Georgia SoS to overturn the election results by finding 11k votes which is the margin he needs to win the state. However, I'm not seeing where he requests anything illegal if the premise Trump starts with is that the election was rigged. If you think the vote tallies were not properly tabulated, you are under the belief that you are missing votes and those votes should be found. He has tweeted about this using different words. |
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sorry but this was debunked the actual news was for those doing the vaccine organising. should make every effort to give people the same vaccine as second dose. the exception of only giving different vaccine as last resort of the same was is unavailable is just that a last resort. its an exception to the rule. not a change of rule. the protocol remains the same. stick to the same vaccine UK is adjusting their strategy on the 2nd doses. The original protocol was something like a few weeks from the first dose to the second -- UK is now extending that period and allowing different vaccines to be mixed in.
no. actually try to check the source Previous incomplete vaccination
If the course is interrupted or delayed, it should be resumed using the same vaccine but the first dose should not be repeated. There is no evidence on the interchangeability of the COVID-19 vaccines although studies are underway. Therefore, every effort should be made to determine which vaccine the individual received and to complete with the same vaccine. For individuals who started the schedule and who attend for vaccination at a site where the same vaccine is not available, or if the first product received is unknown, it is reasonable to offer one dose of the locally available product to complete the schedule
its saying try every effort to stick to the same vaccine. and then shows an example of an extreme exception to that advice. its not saying new protocol is to mix it up What I said is in no way a contradiction of what the source said. They are changing the protocol, not making it the norm, but still a change. Is it a good idea to mix vaccines, even in emergency situations? Who knows? This is why you have clinical trials demonstrating any adverse relationships of mixing vaccines. UK is obviously not going that route. It's not even clear how 2nd dosing works. Pfizer obviously announced how the 2nd doses and when they should be administered. Is it a good idea to make that period between the first and second dose longer? |
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I'm actually shocked an NFL team would grant the guy's request.
Most guys in the NFL go broke because their spending habits and lavish lifestyle doesn't coincide with their actual salary. Good on this guy for diversifying his income and putting some towards BTC. Don't think this will be the norm though. No middle income worker is going to request a portion of their income in crypto.
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You have a small amount of truth hidden in this post.
Asymptomatic spread has never been the cause for much concern. We knew this months ago, and Dr. Fauci has admitted as much. Someone that's asymptomatic presumably isn't creating as many bodily fluids (sneezing, coughing, ect) so they won't end up causing as much spread.
The batshit insanity comes in when you say that asymptomatic spread does not occur at all. Doesn't happen to be true. So you're about 1/4th right.
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UK is adjusting their strategy on the 2nd doses. The original protocol was something like a few weeks from the first dose to the second -- UK is now extending that period and allowing different vaccines to be mixed in. Meaning, you take the Pfizer vaccine as the first dose, then take the Moderna dose. Health experts are saying this makes no fucking sense, because it doesn't. Vaccines are based on the spike proteins, but is it a good idea to then begin mixing vaccines that have not passed basic scrutiny through clinical trials together? https://nypost.com/2021/01/01/uk-allows-mixing-covid-19-vaccines-as-experts-warn-of-risks/ |
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The last part of the 2020 election has spilled over into 2021 - Senate runoffs in Georgia next Tuesday, January 5: David Perdue (R) vs Jon Ossoff (D) Kelly Loeffler (R) vs Raphael Warnock (D) Early turnout is high, polls tilt towards Democrats, who would control the Senate if they win both seats. What should the Republicans do? Not sure, but one thing they shouldn't do is try to depress their own turnout but of course they are doing exactly that: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/532348-trump-claims-georgia-senate-runoff-is-both-illegal-and-invalid-in-new-yearsPresident Trump on Friday evening tweeted that next week's Georgia Senate runoff elections are “both illegal and invalid,” even as he has been seeking to convince voters to throw their support behind the GOP senators seeking reelection. I'm curious as to how accurate the polling will be considering how bad they were with some of the senate races in November. Susan Collin's polling data was atrocious, don't think she was leading in a single poll yet she won the race by near double digits. It's all about who shows up on election day to vote. That being said, I'm going to take a shot in the dark and say that both dem's are going to win and this will largely be Trump's fault. He's creating too much doubt on his election that will undoubtedly keep republicans home. Democrats are energized, and obviously hate Trump so they would love nothing more than to give Joe Biden full congressional control. I didn't research much about the candidates because I don't care enough, but Kelly Loeffler sticks out as this elitist rich girl persona who probably couldn't recite a line from the constitution if she tried. I saw a 10 second clip from the debate with her and Warnock and she reminded me of a Republican Hillary Clinton, but significantly dumber with no understanding of government or conservatism. Rather shocked that she was the best candidate Republicans in GA came up with. Poor candidates, no help from Trump, and a high number of mail in's mean this thing is probably a wrap. |
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your links are about the pharma not being liable.. congratulations you just found out something that every other smart person knew for a long time.. welldone now you have to look at the GOVERNMENTS compensation scheme. so without you spinning in circles crying about not being able to be SLAPP happy with pharma. go try to catch up with the info about the government scheme. yep i said it. stop circle jerking the 'cant sue pharma' links. as your just going in outdated info try to catch up ill give you a little hint... VICP What are VICP's objectives? ensure an adequate supply of vaccines; stabilize vaccine costs; and establish and maintain an accessible and efficient forum for individuals found to be injured by certain vaccines. The VICP was established after lawsuits against vaccine manufacturers and healthcare providers threatened to cause vaccine shortages and reduce vaccination rates. The Program began accepting petitions (also called claims) in 1988. welcome to 2021. and i hope you have now caught up with 33 years of understandings about vaccine makers liability actually being the governments held liable yep. its been this way for 33 years What are you talking about? The only entity liable are the companies or enterprises that create a therapeutic agent. If the government waives off liability on their end, the company nor the government will compensate you for any adverse reaction. The article I linked talk about this clearly. Article mentions the only compensation you can get for vaccines is 50k per year for certain vaccines which do not include Pfizer's COVID vaccine. Good luck trying to get the US government to pay for a vaccine you voluntarily took. |
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This was for liability reasons (obviously), not because the vaccine is rushed and completely unsafe. You're not going to have a single company produce a COVID vaccine if it means you vaccinated millions of people and are held liable if one of them ends up dying from some unrelated, or even related, reaction from the vaccine.
Example - Imagine if you have an allergic reaction after taking the vaccine. Doesn't mean the vaccine is unsafe, but the companies is now on the hook for a potential lawsuit. Multiply that by how ever many adverse reactions. By the way, I'm not arguing that the vaccine is 100 percent safe. That would be disingenuous. Some people are going to have some adverse reaction.
to correct you. vaccine companies for decades are never personally liable. as thats what liability insurance is for. however in past decades to underwire an insurance took alot of bureucracy and high premiums.. yep to do each phase of trials took 6 months of paperwork just for insurance just to get approval. now the government is basically the insurance company holding liability over vaccines they gave pharma companies approval to do phased trials earlier this year quickly. all thats changed is instead of charging say $500 premium per phase trial participant which would then reflect as a $550 vaccine. the government take liability and so they get the vaccine for under $50 and they put funds aside into a 'compensation trust' to cover any liabilities. and because its the government. and done via a government scheme that is more straight forward they dont have to go through the expense of fake claims expenses. The government won't give you shit either so don't rely on them to give you compensation if something bad happens. That's what emergency authorization is. You rush out the therapeutic because the potential risks do not outweigh the benefits. There were clinical trials, but it's unreasonable to say that this vaccine is universally safe with no side effects. https://www.phe.gov/Preparedness/legal/prepact/Pages/default.aspxYou voluntarily take the vaccine, you assume the risk of taking it. You have no recourse if shit goes sour. |
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This was for liability reasons (obviously), not because the vaccine is rushed and completely unsafe. You're not going to have a single company produce a COVID vaccine if it means you vaccinated millions of people and are held liable if one of them ends up dying from some unrelated, or even related, reaction from the vaccine. Example - Imagine if you have an allergic reaction after taking the vaccine. Doesn't mean the vaccine is unsafe, but the companies is now on the hook for a potential lawsuit. Multiply that by how ever many adverse reactions. By the way, I'm not arguing that the vaccine is 100 percent safe. That would be disingenuous. Some people are going to have some adverse reaction. |
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Ba-ha-ha-ha! Who could have seen that coming ;^) ?. So called 'medical professionals' are aware of several things that Joe Sixpack is not: - So-called 'Covid-19' is not very threatening and mostly a scam - Vaccines often have devastating effects on life and health. And that is the ones which ARE approved (not just 'authorized'.) Anyone who doesn't want the shot is an ' anti-science anti-vaxxer conspiracy theorist' though. Who knew that there were so many in the 'medical profession'!?! Perhaps they need a good. . .talking-to. . . .perhaps. . .a bit more. So many frontline workers in Riverside County have refused the vaccine — an estimated 50% — that hospital and
public officials met to strategize how best to distribute the unused doses, Public Health Director Kim Saruwatari said.
Hey Kim, here's an idea! Give them to old folks trapped in nursing homes who cannot resist. Other useless eaters would include the homeless who will trade what's left of their health for a bowl of lentil soup. And if you have a community occupying a place that the city planners (and their contractor sponsors) want to turn into a 'green space', there's your answer! Well, I'm thinking for healthcare workers it is sort of a self survivorship bias. They made it so far in the pandemic, why bother getting the vaccine? They've been at this thing since March -- sure they witnesses cases of COVID, but they themselves haven't gotten and died. So why get the vaccine? I don't expect healthcare workers to understand how the vaccine works but again, I will never fault a young and healthy person for not getting it. If you're (not literally you, but generally speaking) old or a fat fuck, put the twinkie down and get the vaccine. |
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badecker. tvbcof has already admitted people do get covid and have symptoms by trying to establish that the vaccine wont work because people will still get covid. with or without the vaccine.
so you lost a conspiracy ally. i am just ramming more nails in his foot so he cant run back to conspiracies.
'covid' == 'year 2020's common cold'. 'covid-19' is just the marketing term they put on it for the hoax pandemic operation psy-op of 2020. Sure the common cold exists, and sure, the common cold causes symptoms. first of all sars-cov-2 is a new strain that is so varient from 2002 sars and 2012 mers that it causes more death and symptom severity than sars/mers also is s new that its not 'common' maybe in 2022 once its had a few seasons you can declare it common. but not yet. also 'colds' are bacteria based. this is viral. so its flu based not cold based. but again for emphasis its not yet common to have already built up immunity Colds are not bacteria based, they are viral based. A cold could also be a type of coronavirus depending on what type of cold virus you get. That being said, colds are not similar to SARS-COV-2 for oblivious reasons, mainly the the transmission rate and the death rate. |
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You can't ever go by who "rightly" won because that leads a subjective interpretation. You go by the raw vote totals -- electoral college votes with respect to the raw vote totals -- winner is decided and takes office on Jan. 21st. There isn't really any other way to win.
For my view, the person who "rightly" won *is* the person who won. It's not an either-or situation.
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" ...complications related to COVID-19" eh, Associated Press? That euphemism can be and has been used to describe a motorcycle accident. More likely he 'died' due to complications related to being a creepy pedo or some such which is seems to be a prerequisite to holding 'elected office' in the Ju.S.A. these days. ' Complications' like ' about to be outed.' No underlying health conditions. His doctors are shocked. There are anomalies always but the norm is that 41 year olds should not be dying from this thing. I still believe if you are young and healthy you should be fine. The 40-60 range is kinda pushing it though. Not many deaths according to CDC data in that age range, but still enough to probably warrant a vaccine. Says in plain English that he was under treatment generally and on remdesivir specifically. Seems a lot more risky than 'covid-19' if one wants to play the numbers. Going to any institution with 'covid-19' seems very risky if said institution gets extra money for treating such patients. Seems like if they are running out of room they'll kill you as quickly as possible to make room for other $39,000 government checks. Seems like that was what was happening at Elmhurst in NYC, but they were doing mostly homeless and indigent people with no family that way. Are you saying that Remdesivir contributed to his death? They aren't using Remdesivir unless the guy is already on his death bed. Someone in his age demographic is supposed to experience light to moderate symptoms, if any. His condition deteriorated and they started using medications to treat him. He was probably on his way to death if Remdesivir is being used for someone in their 40's. |
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" ...complications related to COVID-19" eh, Associated Press? That euphemism can be and has been used to describe a motorcycle accident. More likely he 'died' due to complications related to being a creepy pedo or some such which is seems to be a prerequisite to holding 'elected office' in the Ju.S.A. these days. ' Complications' like ' about to be outed.' No underlying health conditions. His doctors are shocked. There are anomalies always but the norm is that 41 year olds should not be dying from this thing. I still believe if you are young and healthy you should be fine. The 40-60 range is kinda pushing it though. Not many deaths according to CDC data in that age range, but still enough to probably warrant a vaccine. |
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