https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/28/us/derek-chauvin-george-floyd-trial-juror/index.htmlJuror speaks out. TL;DR - Pro BLM man who said Derek Chauvin's confidence deteriorated. "To me, (Chauvin) started out really confident," he said. "The first week, for sure -- I felt like he was confident, his lawyers were confident. I could feel the confidence for sure." "I didn't see any remorse." I too look at a man's demeanor, and from my ass, determine how confident another person is and that he doesn't feel any remorse. During his questionnaire to determine any biases "This is the most historic case of my lifetime, and I would love to be a part of it," he wrote. How Eric Nelson didn't strike this guy is beyond me. Anyone that wanted to be on that jury should've been dismissed Last but not least, he said this to CNN: "We haven't seen an outcome like this on a case. I really think this is a start, and I think it's a good start". "And then all the attention that it is still getting -- just keeping that magnifying glass there has to spark some kind of change." If you think this person was impartial you are lying to yourself. I don't find it surprising he ran to CNN to cash in his 10 minutes of fame.
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vitamin D is not a cure
people living in places with better sunlight than US/UK still get sick
yes a vitamin D deficiency means it can make your immune system deficient. but its not the only thing
the amount of people with difficient immune systems vs those deficient immune due to vitD is small
people without vitd deficiency dont need vitD
people that dont need vit D can stil get covid..
thats reality. thats fact. thats logic.
if vitD was a cure they would have used it last february
why would they have used it last february you ask...
well because all infections need the use of a immune system to fight it.
all throughout history
decades of infections and stuff and its found even with pople without vitd deficiency still get sick
its not new. its standard logic
so if the vitD deficiency was the only cause of illness they would have dealt with it long ago
every infectious ailment would be iradicated.
and no one having supplements would ever of got sick
but thats not reality.
but here is the thing those with healthy immune. those taking daily supplements those with good sun exposure STILL GET SICK
thats reality
if you are immune deficient purely due to vid D deficiency then yes boost your vitD but dont think it is your immortal pill/cure
That's what I said, vitamin D isn't itself a direct cure, there's just evidence to suggest that it can help your immune system, and if you have a healthy immune system, that should help your outcome if you have COVID. All the research that I've found on the matter doesn't make a connection to vitamin D and COVID, it just makes a lot of speculation. And a lot of people don't get enough sun anyways, so even if it doesn't help in regards to covid, there's plenty of research that it helps your immune system so it wouldn't hurt to take vitamin D supplements if you're low. |
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Wasn't hydroxychloroquine supposed to be the magic pixie dust cure? For one who spells out HCQ so well, and then talks about magic pixie dust, it's kinda obvious that you aren't into Covid cures much. If you were, you'd realize that there are many Covid cures that work well.  I'm interested in Covid cures that actually work. Perhaps the only thing close to an actual Covid cure, oppose to vaccines (which really are preventative, not cures) maybe might be vitamin D supplements to support a health immune system. No direct evidence to suggest that vitamin D has an effect on severity of a Covid infection, but generally the theory is that vitamin D support a healthy immune system, and a healthy immune system decreases your chance of death due to Covid. This is, of course, why elderly people are more at risk from Covid than a healthy young 20 year old. |
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Wasn't hydroxychloroquine supposed to be the magic pixie dust cure? |
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Some role is on the politicians, as always, but India is way too overly populated for any government to actually handle COVID without sacrificing too many deaths. Poor education, extreme poverty, densely packed population, and a poor healthcare system. Is anyone surprised at the outcome?
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It's a two part problem. One, companies have terrible IT and cyber security and don't care about investing in it. They'd rather the data be breached and deal with the fall out instead of investing in online security. Second, people just love to give away loads of information about themselves to big tech companies which throw it in a database somewhere to be used by advertisers.
I remember when the cambridge analytica scandal happened. It's like the whole world was shocked that Facebook uses all the info it knows about you and sells it advertisers. Crazy!
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you cannot determine the pressure Chauvin was putting onto Floyd using a damn video. There is just no way to tell.
maybe I'm just wrong and missing something here.
Irrelevant. If you are kneeling on someone's neck, and they're telling you they can't breathe, then maybe you should just get off their neck? Rather than thinking "well, I'm only kneeling kind of lightly, it's probably not fatal pressure..." George Floyd was saying he could not breathe before he was even being put on the ground. He was placed on his side for the first two minutes of the restraint in the recovery position and continued to say he could not breathe. Rewatch the body cam video, while the prone restraint was being used, Floyd was being held with his left side on the ground and his right side raised up in the air. Police officers in Minneapolis are trained that if someone can speak, they can breathe. In accordance to Derek Chauvin's own training and MPD policy, he had no reason to believe that Floyd could not breath. Second point. Floyd did not die of positional asphyxia according to the medical examiner who conducted Floyd's autopsy report, and he in fact testified under oath that Floyd's airway was not blocked. This idea that Floyd was suffocated is nonsense and was disproved months ago when the autopsy report was published. Your argument would hold up IF Dr. Baker ruled positional asphyxia as the cause of death and he didn't. So that means that fentanyl and methamphetamine clearly did play a role in Floyd's death and the whole point of contention is whether Chauvin's knee had "substantial causal factor" (this is the phrase used in the jury instructions for 2nd degree manslaughter and I think the murder charges as well) in Floyd's death
I never said fentanyl or meth didn't play a roll in the death. I'm saying it doesn't matter if they did. It wouldn't make Chauvin any less guilty of staying on top of the guy for 9 minutes while he begged for his life and then died. What the jury instructions that the judge read out to everyone was -- you need to prove Chauvin had a "substantial causal factor" (this is the exact phrase that is used in the instructions) in Floyd's death. You need to prove this *beyond a reasonable doubt*. You need to separate meth, fentanyl, artery blockage, the actions of officers Lane and Kueng, an enlarged heart, and the fact that Floyd popped fentanyl/meth pills when police arrived on scene and isolate Derek Chauvin as the "substantial causal factor" of death. That's is downright impossible without the cause of death being positional asphyxia. If you disagree, tell me where I'm wrong. Tell me what evidence, beyond a reasonable doubt, was presented that isolated Chauvin's actions as the substantial causal factor of death. You satisfy this if George Floyd was positionally asphyxiated, why the state had Dr. Tobin as a witness to testify that Floyd died of positional asphyxia. Except his testimony directly contradicts the testimony of Dr. Baker, the only person who conducted Floyd's autopsy. There were some other contradictions that I already mentioned before. |
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hmm so how come he was still alert and able to talk and spell his name and give date of birth and answer questions..
do you still not know how overdoses work
its funny how the video has been public for months.. the jury has already passed its verdict.. but you as a sofa jurer have a different story to tell that does not follow ANY ACTUAL EVIDENCE
by the way the medication packaging found in floyds sisters car was not fentanyl. and the amount of that other medication in his blood was not overdose amount. it was not even therapeutic/recreational amount
This goes both ways. Floyd gave his name but it appeared he was a bit incoherent and erratic. But how come he was nodding off in the car? The passenger in the car testified this, that he kept falling asleep and he couldn't be woken up. How come he was alert while he was in the store, then suddenly just passes out and is unable to be awakened? And in regards to the fentanyl levels, I'll believe Dr. Baker when he says 11 ng/mL of fentanyl is an unsafe level and put fentanyl intoxication as the contributing factor. He testified that he's certified fentanyl levels of 3 ng/mL as OD's, so not a harmless amount of fentanyl. Why does it matter if he was high or overdosing when we have a video of the cop kneeling on his neck for 9 minutes until he was dead? Being high or overdosing does not make someone unmurderable. Because, as I have been saying for months now, you cannot determine the pressure Chauvin was putting onto Floyd using a damn video. There is just no way to tell. There is research to suggest that 225 pounds of pressure is needed to effect respiration in the prone restraint position. There is research to suggest that the prone restraint position does not inhibit respiration function. There is research to suggest that in thousands of usages of the prone restraint technique in Canada and other cities and not a single death was ever recorded. Coincidentally, Canada does not have the drug dependency like Americans do. Your argument would hold up IF Dr. Baker ruled positional asphyxia as the cause of death and he didn't. So that means that fentanyl and methamphetamine clearly did play a role in Floyd's death and the whole point of contention is whether Chauvin's knee had "substantial causal factor" (this is the phrase used in the jury instructions for 2nd degree manslaughter and I think the murder charges as well) in Floyd's death I've asked about a dozen different ways, how can anyone be sure of the pressure Chauvin exerted onto Floyd throughout the entirety of the restraint when there wasn't any bruising, any skin damage, no contusions nothing. I am asking because maybe I'm just wrong and missing something here. |
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hmm so how come he was still alert and able to talk and spell his name and give date of birth and answer questions..
do you still not know how overdoses work
its funny how the video has been public for months.. the jury has already passed its verdict.. but you as a sofa jurer have a different story to tell that does not follow ANY ACTUAL EVIDENCE
by the way the medication packaging found in floyds sisters car was not fentanyl. and the amount of that other medication in his blood was not overdose amount. it was not even therapeutic/recreational amount
This goes both ways. Floyd gave his name but it appeared he was a bit incoherent and erratic. But how come he was nodding off in the car? The passenger in the car testified this, that he kept falling asleep and he couldn't be woken up. How come he was alert while he was in the store, then suddenly just passes out and is unable to be awakened? And in regards to the fentanyl levels, I'll believe Dr. Baker when he says 11 ng/mL of fentanyl is an unsafe level and put fentanyl intoxication as the contributing factor. He testified that he's certified fentanyl levels of 3 ng/mL as OD's, so not a harmless amount of fentanyl. |
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Dr. Baker also testified that it appeared to him the knee was on the upper back area between the shoulder blades for most of the time. So which is it? Was it on the neck, or was it on the back?
maybe if you as a sofa jurer watched the video you could see for yourself. thats why not only the 'expert' words but the video itself are used also he was handcuffed. so if you want to suggest he reached in his pocket upwrapped some packaging and put a pill in his mouth.. seems you dont understand handcuff logic much also in full view of several police officers.. seems you dont understand visual logic so.. lets see if you can watch the video. and actually see the events. and not make up 'maybe' stories https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjKjaCvXdf4as you can see in the first 5 minutes he was conscious. talking. and alert enough to even spell his name and give his date of birth. yes he seemed upset that he was being arrested for what he deemed as a victimless crime. but then who would be happy. none of this displays any sign of someone that has overdosed. also to your suggestion that he took something out and left it in the back of the police car.. well the cops frisked him and emptied his pockets before he got into the car so. lets get things straight. look at the video linked above and actually tell me the specific times where your assertions occured oh and one more thing. starting at 11:30. you can see chauvins LEFT knee hard on his neck. and right knee hanging in the air in his back area i know you only want to talk about the right knee but be aware of the left knee No, I am suggesting that Floyd took pills and swallowed them to hide them once the police approached his car. How else can you possibly explain partially chewed up pills being found in the police car where Floyd struggled with police WITH Floyd's DNA on them? He did the same exact thing during his 2019 arrest which was shown in court, not the full bodycam video but partially. Police yelled at Floyd saying "spit it out". He has a history of doing this. Am I to believe that had nothing to do with his death? |
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you're telling me Floyd died because of
No, the verdict is telling you that. I'm not an expert. It seems to me as an observer that the cause of death is obvious. And the outcome of the trial gives the same result as my uninformed opinion. We are all qualified to be on that jury. This was a jury of ordinary people. Sure, we're not Chauvin's peers, sure we are not experts in positional asphyxia or toxicology experts, but that doesn't matter, neither was the jury. This was televised so everyone had the opportunity to make their own judgement about the cause of death and the use of force. So based on what I saw, I disagree with the verdict. |
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The question is how did he die, and what exact role Chauvin had in Floyd's death.
Knee on the neck for 9 minutes might have had something to do with it. The exact role Chauvin had is the role of murderer. Hope that clears up any confusion. There's also a video. Dr. Baker also testified that it appeared to him the knee was on the upper back area between the shoulder blades for most of the time. So which is it? Was it on the neck, or was it on the back? Secondly, you're telling me Floyd died because of the knee to the back of the neck and that fentanyl, a respiration rate depressant, methamphetamine a vasoconstrictor, coronary artery blockage of 75% and 90%, an enlarged heart, and the fact that chewed up fentanyl/methamphetamine pills were found in the back of the squad car Floyd was placed in had no effect? |
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Flloyd died "from police force, not drugs or underlying health conditions"
-The Medical Examiner This is wrong. He said Floyd died after his "heart gave out* following subdual by law enforcement with contributing factors of heart conditions, fentanyl intoxication, and recent methamphetamine use. It's just not true to say he just died from police force and not drugs. I still don't understand this. We're all suppose to listen to the experts on the cause of death, they each contradict one another. Dr. Baker (forensic pathologist) - Floyd's heart gave out following law enforcement subdual with contributing factors of heart conditions/drug use. Openly stated no anatomical evidence to support a conclusion of positional asphyxia. Dr. Thomas (forensic pathologist) - Floyd died of positional asphyxia with contributing factors of heart conditions/drug use. Dr. Tobin (pulmonologist) - Floyd *did not die* of underlying factors. They did not play a role in his death. Floyd died of positional asphyxia. Dr. Rich (cardiologist) - George Floyd had a strong healthy heart and his heart condition did not play a role in his death. I watched each one of these doctor's testimony and did so closely. They all were contradicting each other. So which expert do I listen to? I pick one? Manslaughter was the only charge here worth debating. Murder 2 and Murder 3 are so unbelievably wild I don't understand what trial this jury was watching. |
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Tash your brain is gonna turn to mush if you keep clicking those links.
I think he's too far gone already. Only electing Trump again can fix Tash. He might have a chance! https://wgntv.com/news/beyond-seriously-trump-considering-presidential-run-in-2024/Trump vs. Biden round 2! Or perhaps even better, Trump vs. Harris round 1! Who wins? The second time around, Trump loses by a greater margin than he did in 2020. Even a lot of Trump supporters have moved past Trump and accepted he lost then moved on. Hell, I'm not even sure he'd be able to win the nomination. But, watching Kamala Harris and Trump on a debate stage would quite literally be the best form of entertainment anyone could ask for, even more entertaining than Hillary and Trump. Unfortunately we will all miss out. |
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Communism doesn't allow anyone to grow. Chinese communism also allows for Uighur muslims to be thrown into concentration camps and forcibly sterilized. But, is it really communism at that point? Seems more authoritarian to me.
China will be the #1 threat to first world democracies within the next 10-20 years. Just watch.
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Did you see the testimony from Shwanda Hill, the passenger in Floyd's car? She said Floyd was nodding off in the car and that she couldn't wake him up. Certainly sounds like what fentanyl would do. And keep in mind, methamphetamine is also a stimulant, and he was on both. So if he was in the car passing out, does it not sound like the fentanyl had some effect? |
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Boiled down to watching the video and seeing a handcuffed man crying out for his mother and saying he can't breathe it seems.
And dying. You left out the dying part. Yes, he died, of course. The question is how did he die, and what exact role Chauvin had in Floyd's death. The murder charges don't even make sense within the context of this case. 3rd degree murder was at one point thrown out, so it's not just me saying this - https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/22/us/derek-chauvin-third-degree-murder.htmlI thought the trial should have moved to some place else. It's on to appeals. And 10 hours of deliberations for a case like this? Really? |
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Guilty on all counts? On to appeals.
10 hours of deliberations, think that might have been less than OJ's trial, Casey Anthony, George Zimmerman? I guess they really were sure. Boiled down to watching the video and seeing a handcuffed man crying out for his mother and saying he can't breathe it seems. Closing arguments were leaning in that direction, appeal to emotions was the best approach. It worked.
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Regardless of why they banned it, Denmark I don't think is going anti-vax or anything. I haven't researched into what alternates they're exploring, but presumably they aren't just going to throw their seniors overboard and tell them they can't get the vaccine by banning the major competitors, Pfizer or J&J's. Again, I get that the data isn't statistically significant, it's just to make people "feel" safer because feelings > facts to some. |
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