We knew the election results that night and each state had reported their results early. We didn't have millions of mail in ballots being reported in batches at 4 AM in the morning.  The mess in Georgia where they found thousands of uncounted ballots or "memory card" issues was enough to justify the audits.

Trump needs to concede the moment his lawsuits fail and the vote becomes certified though.

Press conference was today with Rudi Guliani and some Powell(?) lady who apparently represented Michael Flynn iirc.

Of course, nothing meaningful came out of the press conference and they floated around voter fraud without showing evidence.

Doesn't really matter what the vote totals are anymore. The results are going to be certified at the end of the week or early next and the Trump legal team, like utter incompetent dumb fucks, are going on TV talking about how much evidence of voter fraud there is without, ya know, showing the damn evidence.

I wasn't actually mad at the election results rather than disappointed, but seeing Trump's lawyers going on Fox News convincing their rabid viewers that their sitting on a bombshell without actually releasing it makes me overly bitter. You have less than 10 days before it's completely over and the results, no matter what, can't be changed once the states certify the results. Lawsuits take time. Release the damn evidence instead of going on Fox.

https://www.fox26houston.com/news/calls-for-floyd-county-elections-director-to-resign-after-2600-not-counted

Some uncounted ballots in Georgia that give Trump a net 800 vote boost due to some error, apparently.

2600 votes not being counted is significant. This doesn't mean fraud unless it was done intentionally. This does mean someone fucked up.

https://twitter.com/search?q=%22Big%20Gretch%22

Disclaimer: I understand Twitter leftist do not represent real life liberals, but god damn do democrats bend the knee to these mentally deficient people.


"Big Gretch" is trending by a bunch of brain dead twitter leftist because apparently, they think it is empowering and courageous to implement state wide lockdowns. Read through some of these tweets under the hashtag if you want to lose brain cells. Leftist are praising the Governor of Michigan because she is closing down high schools/colleges, gyms, in door dining, ect.

There isn't any significant scientific evidence that COVID-19 spread is going on at schools, yet this useless Governor is halting in class learning. She is shutting down colleges as well, despite the college aged crowd having a mortality rate of <.1%

American Academy of Pediatrics endorse opening schools - https://services.aap.org/en/news-room/news-releases/aap/2020/pediatricians-educators-and-superintendents-urge-a-safe-return-to-school-this-fall/


Leftist want shut downs because they want the government to baby them, and democrats are trying to save themselves from the liability of COVID-19 deaths by shutting down their states partly because of pressure from the far left. These people don't have lives, they don't have jobs, yet this is what the democratic party has come down to, obeying these deranged twitter leftist. The clear and effective strategy is to protect the most vulnerable. Healthcare capacity is not overwhelmed, no point in a state wide shut down in Michigan.

It's amazing to me that Biden's message was that he would follow the science. Perhaps he should consult his fellow democrats.

I also think reading through this hashtag it shows fundamental differences between people with common sense and twitter leftist. Twitter leftist are afraid to leave their cardboard box and venture out into the world. They let a disease that has a <1% mortality rate dominate their lives to the point that they believe it's appropriate to lock down until a vaccine is available. Again, this is what the democratic party has amounted to. Normally no one would give these guys the time of day, but not anymore. In case anyone was wondering how the Republicans picked up 10 seats in the house, you have your answer.

LOL nope. China would love nothing more than a Biden administration because they know Biden is old and predictable. He won't be someone that stands up to China and he has openly said during campaign events that China shouldn't be treated like an adversary.

If there's an issue with the bum equipment, I don't mind looking at the evidence.

The only thing that I've heard was in MI, something about 6k votes through "human error" going from Trump to Biden, but that was corrected.


The chance of this happening is so insanely slim. I've tried reading into the legal arguments the Trump campaign is making trying to invalidate votes and there is just nothing there. Think Trump is more about having his lawyers go on TV prime time instead of articulating legal cases tbh. Ted Cruz has a podcast called Verdict and he said he directly called the President and advocated that he beefs up his legal team bc it's a joke.

Save this post for when Biden gets inaugurated in January. I'm not parroting any lines. I wanted Trump to win, it's just time to get the fuck over it because there is literally nothing we can do to overturn the results. Trump lost too many states by too large of a margin.

I am not jumping for joy over a Biden admin and if there were a viable path for him not to be President, it'd be great. Just not the case.

"bum equipment"...that is an interesting choice of words from the President of the United States.

I fully expect Trump to concede soon though. The lawsuits won't be going anywhere and even if he did score some victories, it won't be enough to flip entire states.

No, I don't believe that anything derogatory about white people, about jews, about whoever, should be illegal. European countries have tried out relaxed definitions of free speech. It hasn't worked out well for them.

Common cold mortality rate and COVID-19 mortality rate are different. But we get it, the JOOOOOOWS rigged the numbers.


Is this the same critical thinking skills you use to conclude that muh evil JOOOOOOOWS rule the world, huh?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/joe-biden-adviser-covid-lockdown-proposal-michal-osterholm/

So, how quick will Biden flip on his promise to not shut down the economy through a lock down? I think a national shutdown, like what we saw in March is not needed.

IF the health care capacity is overwhelmed, then you might need local shut downs in hot spot areas, or an increase in capacity. Hopefully the latter is the option but sometimes the infrastructure isn't there. Imagine some suburban or rural hospital -- they can't magically increase their hospital capacity without using an insane amount of resources. NYC was able to set up tents, but that was NYC, not some hospital out in the middle of no where with limited staff.

Biden will be caught in a tough spot here. When we reach 2k deaths per day, that will most likely be the point that overwhelm hospitals. I read a story (you can look this up if you're interested) about some states having to airlift patients to other hospitals because they are getting overwhelmed and the worse is yet to come. You run out of options quick.

This is a textbook case of Trump Derangement syndrome. If this isn't a series of fake tweets, it could be cited as an example of a leftist so insane and disconnected from reality.

You think Biden is going to be the one to "drain the swamp"?

The slogan was kind of stupid, don't get me wrong, but let's not get ahead of ourselves thinking this dementia ridden fool will do anything to stop Washington corruption.

None of this is new. Something like 2/3 democrats thought that Russians had actually affected voter rolls (which is literally impossible) following the 2016 election.

Not only was Russian interference overplayed, democrats were insane enough to think that voters were not tabulated properly and that physical hacking of voting systems caused Trump to take an advantage.

And if we're being technical, this election was not "fair". Democrats, if they're being honest, should admit this too. Universal mail in voting is an issue, but setting that aside, the media was absurdly bias. Twitter/Facebook censoring the Hunter Biden story is big tech putting their finger on the scale.

The MSM didn't help either. Great example here - https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/live-blog/2020-10-22-trump-biden-election-n1244210/ncrd1244450

NBC news literally fact checked a story about the stock market if Biden were to win...Ahh yes, NBC news predicting the future of the stock market and then "fact" checking it as if they can see the future. Completely neutral, guys. Surely they would have done the same to benefit Trump when fact checking Biden on his brain dead Green New deal plan.

Sworn affidavits are not evidence. There was a story of some poll watcher that witnessed tempering who had a sworn affidavit and he openly admitted he made up his voter fraud story.

To your point though, the media made up their mind as Joe being the winner prior to the election. Fine folks at CNN would have a COVID-19 death counter during their news coverage. Now that Biden is the projected President elect, that counter is magically gone. Almost like they were trying to fear monger or something. Crazy.

An affidavit isn't evidence. We need concrete proof if any state results are actually going to get turned over. That being said, it still warrants investigation.

And liberals should want investigations. If they are confident that Joe Biden was legitimately elected, let the investigations turn up nothing so that there isn't any doubt on the legitimacy of Biden's win.

On surface level, Biden taking the lead in numerous states after a dump of mail ins at 4 AM does seem weird.

No, it's not okay under any circumstances. We just need proof. I can't go around pointing to election fraud and have nothing when someone asks me for proof of actual ballots that were submitted fraudulently.

As someone that doesn't think there was any fraud, an international group that has fuck all to do with U.S. elections "watching" an election overseas is dodgy and makes me have less faith that there wasn't fraud.

"International monitor" for a U.S. election sounds like an oxymoron.

I never checked the betting lines while the results were pouring in but the UK markets late night on November 3rd went from 37% Trump odds to a 75% Trump odds which I probably could have made a bet on. At no point in the night did the data support a 3/4 chance of a Trump win so it would have been a good bet anyone to take. Perhaps some emotional betting, perhaps some overzealous Trump supporters, who knows why the odds were that high.

As far as 2024 bets. I don't think Trump or his children will be successful at clinching the nomination (in fact it is a VERY good bet to take 1:1 against one of his children being the nominee and even I'd bet on that). Ted Cruz and Nikki Hayley will both be running in 2024 and I feel strongly about one of them winning. But like I said, I would never put my money where my mouth is because politics is way too unpredictable. In 2016, I would have bet my kidney that Trump would not have gotten the nomination, and we see how that turned out. I would have bet my other kidney that he wouldn't win the general. And we see how that turned out. Also one of these two (Cruz or Hayley) could get hit by a bus in the next 4 years and I'd be out of my sat. Unless, of course, there was a clause in the bet about getting ran over by a bus  


I also am not even sure if it's a good idea for any gambler to bet that Biden would even run in 2024. I think Kamala Harris probably would take over by then, and in that case I think odds favor Republicans to beat Kamala Harris instead of Biden with how unlikeable she is.

I wonder if Pence runs? Hmm. A Pence vs Harris Presidential race? Woah.