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1401  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How the casino takes money from you with a deposit bonus on: June 20, 2023, 04:35:24 PM
Giving deposit bonuses is a strategy of gambling sites that helps them attract gamblers. but when one accepts the bonus he must comply with the wagering requirements and as soon as he makes the deposit he will get the bonus but his balance will be frozen. So it is better to avoid bonus and gamble with break instead of panic is the best strategy to succeed in gambling. however, many people do not understand this issue and face many problems and lose a lot of money in gambling.
Yes, I didn't understand much about gambling at first. At first, a new gambling site gives you an unspecified bonus when you deposit. But now I'm a big fan of gambling.I lost a lot of money while playing gambling without understanding anything about gambling in the first stage. Now I don't have to face such problems. But I think gambling is a deadly addiction. We should stay away from gambling.
Whether you stay away from gambling or not, try to have some limits if you want to avoid getting addicted to it, have a specific amount of time that you will spend on your gambling activities per week, and also decide on a budget that you will spend and if you have lost it, you won't gamble anymore for the whole week, this way, you won't get addicted because you will know your limits and you will gamble accordingly, only if you can follow it.

What I would suggest you stay away from are bonuses that are offered by all the casinos, some of them might be good if they don't have very high wagering requirements, but most of them do have high wagering requirements and you will lose your deposit along with the bonus before you complete the requirement.
1402  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are there play and pay later casinos? on: June 20, 2023, 03:50:31 PM
So is gambling debt one way or other possible without the person taking loan or borrowing money?
Some excuses some people are always giving is kind of funny to me, I don't know maybe you asked the person for money, or maybe as he saw your message he was thinking you are going to ask him for money that was why he gave you excuse, so that you won't be disturbing him. I am a gambler and I haven't seen any online casino that will ask you to gamble and you will have to pay back later, am sure the person is just trying to deceive you. If gambling sites gives you loan to gamble, am sure lot's of people won't be paying back even if they are submitting their kyc. Am just thinking about it because I don't even know how they are going to do it and their customers won't be running away with their money.
That might not be an excuse and he had probably taken a loan from somewhere but maybe he didn't want to disclose that, that's why he said that the casino allowed them to gamble and pay back later, or maybe he used a credit card or something and is now having to pay back the credits that he used in gambling? I'm not sure but as you said, casinos don't generally give out loans to every gambler unless he was a loyal customer at a land-based casino and got a loan offer but I doubt they give such offers without collateral.

Even if an online casino decides to launch a program where they will give out loans to gamblers to play and pay it back later, I'm pretty sure that they won't do it for free and will surely ask for something as collateral before they can take a loan because they won't be able to do anything if a gambler doesn't return after gambling the money away.
1403  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 20, 2023, 12:26:32 PM
Lukaku has the biggest problems because Chelsea has made it clear to Inter Milan that he will not be loaned again; if they want, they should cough up 50m and sign him permanently; if no club is willing to pay that amount, he will sit on the bench next season and join the U23 team for the rest of the season; he is already a lost asset for us. The Saudi deal was the finest offer because there is no way Inter Milan would pay 50m for Lukaku, who is already 30 yrs. Here, his career is on the line.
Lukaku is already spent his best in Chelsea and Inter Milan with now if he is getting any offer from the Saudis he needs to accept this and have some better things for his future because now in new Chelsea most chances he will mostly spend his time on bench and no good news is available for him in European clubs which is performance of last two years with if he is looking for the offer like Benzema then surely it's daydreaming which is having nothing good in reality.

Currently, if he is able to have something it's surely good and with his less work and good performance there is chance for him to have something again here in Europe but for this all he needs to have good time in playing instead of having mostly his time on bench which is going to happen in Chelsea.
1404  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: June 20, 2023, 05:46:23 AM
Basically, if you believe in Tuchel's quality in building a team, then I'm sure you won't doubt it. Because after all, with Tuchel there is plenty of time to rebuild the team and of course, to improve the team's performance to be as desired as before when it had such good dominance in the Bundesliga. But for me personally I'm sure that Tuchel will be able to do it all well. But what I'm waiting for is whether Tuchel can give Bayern Munich a big chance in the Champions League as well.
This works differently for different coach. Tuchel build a good team in chelsea and earned good record. This achievement was basically on the players signed by Frank Lampard and with the help of former chelsea owner. Tuchel on his own while given chance to sign his own players had challenges. 
Graham potter did well in building Brighton team and the team did extremely well in the last season while chelsea with Brighton couldn't perform well because the team want build by Potter. Tuchel can only build a team who's players selection was already made. He isn't good at signing players.
Every coach is having his own strategy and way of work with Thomas Tuchel is one of the best person in this job and his record it also speaks about him, he was doing good job in Chelsea but sadly due to poor decision by new owner of the Chelsea create good mess-up which ends with worst results because Graham Potter completely fail here after having impressive success in Brighton but now most chances we will be having good results for him here in Bayern Munich.

Because, we all know about tradition of Bayern Munich which is having good history and many big players as well which mostly keep their momentum high right now they are facing some problems but most chances they will be settled this with having their targeted striker which is main agenda for them before start of new season and things could be much better than last season.
1405  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A portion of my clothing store's weekly profit is invested in Bitcoin on: June 20, 2023, 04:23:23 AM
It seems you are a little late, I mean your shop is already earning less. If only you did that before, maybe you can allocate more money in Bitcoin and you already have a nice amount of Bitcoin now. I'm not here to stop you on your plans but go ahead. Being late is still better than not doing it at all. Let's only hope that the situation in your country will now return to normal and so as your shop earnings.

Your Bitcoin earnings can also aid you later on to continue your business and maybe it would be better to just build your own shop and buy the land around it, so that you will not pay for the rent anymore. It only looks costly at first but I promised you that it's going to be worth it later on.
1406  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: June 19, 2023, 06:14:02 PM
If you look at the conditions, it seems that he is only prioritized as a substitute for Mariano and indeed his chances are quite small.
He did that at Madrid a few years ago but he was really out of competition and now it won't change anything so in this case it will obviously be very difficult for Madrid to only make moves as substitutes for Benzema, Hazard and Mariano with only Diaz and Joselu.
16 goals in 34 matches is actually quite good but it should be realized that the conditions of Espanyol and Madrid are clearly different, especially in terms of player competition.

Signing Dusan Vlahovic is actually quite good in my opinion but coming back in this case they have to compete and of course have to prepare an obviously big price because if I'm not mistaken seeing the current rumors Bayern also want this player.
That is also what I heard about Bayern and Vlahovic. Interestingly, both clubs need a striker so urgently that juventus could even benefit from selling him. His contract will run until 2026 so no matter which club is trying to sign him, this will be a costly transaction for sure. At the same time Juventus can't just start selling their best players while also planning to make a comeback next season. There are a few names out there that will create some great rumors and news in the coming weeks. But there is also a lot of patience needed because when Real Madrid is now willing to make a move, the timing also has to be right. What if Mbappe is a potential transfer out of a sudden? All the teams are now waiting for others to make their move as well and Real Madrid and Bayern have to solve the striker issue urgently.
Currently, both clubs Bayern Munich and Real Madrid are facing same problems just because of these priories are also same with both have rejected Tottenham asking price for the Harry Kane and now both are fighting for the Vlahović which is possible going to be in favor of any club as Juventus is now having troubles so most chances they will also sell him but who is going to be winner it's not easy but for me here Real Madrid which is already suffering due to Mbappé can do much better and have to take this player which is surely better option for them if Mbappé is not coming in this season with most chances in coming season things will be also not clear.

We have the good number of strikers which are coming to be intention with just transfer window is coming, and good thing is happening most of the old are going out from European clubs thanks to Saudis League as now many youngsters can join good clubs and give their best as well.
1407  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: June 19, 2023, 04:35:10 PM
Mandy which was not playing for the Chelsea after coming from World Cup due to injury now having his new destination with new promoted club Al-Ahli and few more top ranked players are also coming to Saudi League with him which is good for this league because things looking good here in Saudi League even this is new and need more time for the improvement but as they are investing huge funds most chances we will have few top rank players here which will give good touch and also good entertainment for the fans.

Right now, Chelsea is doing good job as they were in mess-up but currently after having few deals with Saudi Clubs they can cut their loses because this was not possible in European clubs due to their limited budget right now nearly 8 to 10 players are involved for the transfer which is green signal for the new coach and management as well.
1408  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2022/2023 on: June 19, 2023, 03:05:15 PM
Al-Ittihad, Al-Nassr will be the two teams that are fiercely competing for next season and it seems that these two teams are preparing each other to become the greatest.
But of the two teams I tend to prefer Al-Nassr for next season and there seems to be great hope they can achieve that.

It looks like Ziyech is playing in Europe because he wants to boost his popularity and also his career in a big European team.
In fact, it's also not wrong because every player wants to be a player for a big and famous team.
Currently, no doubt about these two teams which are doing their best for the strength of their teams and trying to have quality players, but we have another two teams which are also doing good like Al-Hilal and Al-Shabab these are also competitive and have enough sources for the better competition hopefully in next few weeks we will have good changes as few players are already in talk specially Al-Hilal is trying to have Neymar or any other big star which will give them good boost.

Ziyech and few are surely wants to stay in Europe because they are feeling it's not time for going in Saudi League even they are offering luxury offers, but one thing is sure in coming years we will have good challenge for the European clubs from these Saudi Clubs due to their huge funds.
1409  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: June 19, 2023, 06:52:41 AM
Maybe Newcastle United will be the new sensation of the new season. I think it's especially great about this team that they didn't spend a lot of money and therefore still finished 4th in the competition. If they had spent 500 million more they might have come 2nd. Arsenal were unstoppable in the first half of the season. There must have been a certain moment when Arsenal really started to believe in the title and it was precisely at that moment that things went completely wrong, the fairy tale seemed to end so beautifully.
Newcaslte has been trying so hard to prepare its club for UCL. The fact that if newcsatle has been even making some controversial bid like bidding on osimhen. That will make newcastle even stronger and the club will able to compete in the UCL.
UCL can be known as the most competitive competition in european. Im sure that eddie howe has been preparing its squad to be able compete with another club.
Eddie howe has been also sending an information if the club may also have interest in cucurela as alternative for tierney once newcastle will not able to get him from arsenal.
Newcastle is still in the progress of development. It becomes even better and better. The club puts a lot of money in summer. Eddie said that if newcastle has unlimited budget for summer transfer season.
After one of the best season in Premier League now Newcastle United is doing their best for having better results in Champions League next season which is surely important for them because now they are at their best after long time and having quality players for the better results are also important as well, but it's never been easy because now many players are committed for their old clubs even after spending huge funds if they bring them is this good still a question mark.

Currently, we have little news about many players are under their radar for the possible transfer, but hopefully Eddie Howe will go with better strategy and have enough players which give them solid performance.
In last season they were just playing Premier League, so their performance was OK, but now they are also going to play Champions League which is also need better results, so things could be not easy with this all they need to work on quality and performance which helps them for staying at the same level.
1410  Economy / Economics / Re: The SEC is right. It's not about Bitcoin, it's about centralized shitcoins. on: June 19, 2023, 05:33:49 AM
Well, that might be something good for those of us who are long-sighted and see the future, but if we see it from a short-term perspective, it will surely affect Bitcoin as well because disturbing exchanges that allow people to buy and sell Bitcoins will surely have some impact on Bitcoin and the overall market, and we have seen that happening, SEC might have clear intentions of removing coins and tokens they consider securities and Bitcoin isn't one according to them, but their approach will hurt Bitcoin too and they know it.

Also, even if they don't consider Bitcoin a security and aren't fighting directly against it, I'm pretty sure that they don't want Bitcoin to prosper as well because what they basically want is no decentralization at any level, and Bitcoin is decentralized to its core which won't be a good thing for them in the long-run.
1411  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How the casino takes money from you with a deposit bonus on: June 18, 2023, 04:22:49 PM
I've taken a few deposit bonuses from betchain.com over the years and beat their wager requirement a few times. I'm not sure what % of the time I beat the wager, but it's not impossible.

In general, I agree with you that taking bonuses on a deposit is in favor of the casinos. I do however think taking a bonus on a small amount to test a casino isn't a bad idea. Not trying to think you're going to win bit or anything, but just tossing $50 in the trash and getting their deposit match to let you test more games. If you decide you like a platform, then you can make a normal deposit and reject a bonus.
That isn't a bad idea only to test a casino but most people don't take it that way, they don't make small deposits to get the bonus only to try out the platform but they make bigger deposits only so that they can get higher deposit bonus without thinking about the consequences of that and the wagering requirement they will need to complete before they can request a withdraw even if they manage to win something significant.

That is the reason why most people later start complaining that they are not being able to withdraw their winnings because they initially don't pay attention to the details of the bonuses the casino is providing and they simply just make deposits and start gambling and later on they get in trouble.
1412  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Success or Fail? - Talking about Gambling as a major income on: June 18, 2023, 03:11:31 PM
Gambling is not a source of income, and one shouldn't take it that way. Even those who gamble professionally don't take gambling as their only source of income but they take it as a part-time income, they may not say this but they earn money from other sources as well and that is the reason why they have high bankrolls which they use to recover their losses from time to time and even if they can't do that, they don't worry about what they've lost because they win again later.

A regular gambler shouldn't take professional gambler as inspiration and try and follow their footprints, you can simply not beat the house even if you have a very high bankroll, it's just patience that can make you win sometimes, so if you lose today, don't chase the losses, but instead, keep the remaining balance and try again tomorrow and you might win your money back if you are lucky.
1413  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: June 18, 2023, 08:25:51 AM
This price will make Manchester United step down, friend. Because Manchester United will think long about buying Mbappe at a very crazy price. Mbappe is a PSG asset and however PSG will hold him back from leaving PSG in this season transfer window. Real Madrid in the previous season had expressed their intention to buy Mbappe but their offer was rejected by PSG. That will make it even more complicated for Real Madrid to make a bid for Mbappe in this season's transfer window.

Indeed, if you look at Real Madrid, they have a lot of money to bring in good quality players, but they will also look at it in terms of price. Ancelotti, a coach who is very good at targeting players, I think if Real Madrid don't get Mbappe this season, they will most likely get another sticker, maybe will be better than him.
On this current price of Kylian Mbappé 180 Million pounds most chances these both big clubs not try because they are not interested on this high price as Real Madrid is now looking for few other options and Manchester United is also having suitable replacements on suitable prices even they are not good as Kylian Mbappé quality but still can do good for their club which is acceptable for them.

Now with the option of he is not going to extend his contract and PSG is never like to allow him as free agent how things will be gone in next few weeks it's interested because we have one more club which can jump into this, but It's not sure with Newcastle United which is newly promoted to Champions League and want to make mark, but surely they will also not go with this amount at the end we have only Real Madrid but as all know not on this price.
1414  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: June 17, 2023, 06:34:00 PM
Mercedes definitely been on the up, they have made some great upgrades, if they keep this up then they are going to be the second team this season behind Red Bull, however Aston Martin said they brought an upgrade this week as well, we haven't seen anything on practice that was exceptional but if that is how practice is usually, let's see if they will do better today, if they do get third place with Alonso then Mercedes is not there yet.

The only thing Mercedes benefiting from Aston Martin is that Stroll sucks, we are not going to see him lose his spot neither, the father Stroll bankrolls this whole team literally for his son to drive, so they will lose a lot of points because of that. In the end 1 Red Bull, 2- Mercedes, 3-Aston Martin (no thanks to Stroll) and 4- Ferrari seems to be the story of the season thus far, and seems like might be for the reason of the season.
1415  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2022/2023 on: June 17, 2023, 05:59:11 PM
I believe that the Saudi clubs know what they are doing,they want to pump their funds into football and make their league very interesting and have the whole world attention on them. They have started buying more players from different strong clubs to make their league noticeable and competitive.

They have all the money to buy any player that they want but they first started with buying Ronaldo as to make other players have the thought of joining this superstar over their with good offer. I am not surprised at this news because I am still expecting more quality players to go to SPL.
Now after Qatar World cup soccer world is going to be had big change in shape of Saudi Funding which is surely going to hurt many UEFA clubs as they will lose many quality players due to huge investments form Saudi Clubs which are doing their best for having good influence for the 2030 World Cup even for me, they are not going to have chance for this but still this is good change which will bring good soccer intention in this region and many other Gulf countries will also jump into these leagues for their own sack.

After Cristiano Ronaldo we have big name like Karim Benzema and Ngolo Kante and few discussions are under pipeline which can also bring few more big names here in this league which is surely going to be interested with this all now European clubs are surely feeling concerns about this all as they can't afford huge investments like these.
1416  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Improve Your Sports Betting Skills and Win More Bets? on: June 17, 2023, 05:31:55 PM
Parlay will be the strategy for earning that xxx, xxx quickly but things could go the other way quickly also.

The odds are almost the same in every platform you have an account. The longer you are in sports betting you already are aware of just going to one platform because, after all, it's the same unless the other has a special promo. But turning $1k to $xxx, xxx, that's huge. I wouldn't really make someone hope for it to happen to them. If they are going to take that journey I think it will take time.  Hey, I get by just putting my money to the top dogs every time.
At the end of the day, it all boils down to discipline. No matter what strategy we are using  but if we don't have the discipline to stick to it then that $1k will go down south quickly instead of making it into a six digit.

Parlay, martingale and all other strategies will only be useful if games that you are betting will go on your side but if not, it would be a disaster. I have a gamble online and offline but for me i just can't find the right strategy to 1 into 1000.

Bottom line, discipline and luck would always go hand in hand so that you could make millions in this sports betting industry, just my two cents.
Completely agreed with this all it's all depend on discipline and luck without this nothing positive is going to happen for any punter and big wins like this surely happen but rarely because most of the time we have losers are crying about one or two loses and their all funds gone just because of their greediness into these parlays.
Many feeling strategies and analysis works, but mostly things like this also have wrong way and loses are mostly on card even we have 80% to 95% winning chances as we have in last few games in different sports with I can give all authentic things about this, but this will be gone long.

If someone wants to enjoy his win even big wins then surely he needs to keep his best under his budget and also try to go with simple things instead of following others going with his own way is also good way of success.
1417  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season on: June 17, 2023, 12:12:51 PM
Primer League teams will play in UEFA Europa League next season are Liverpool and Brighton Albion, seems has chance for Liverpool winning Europe League next season but depend on teams participants on 32 round after eliminating from Champion League group stage. The winner UEFA Europa League 2022/23 season Sevilla is Champion League teams participants after eliminating in group stage. Has chance for next season if any favorite teams win Europe League from Champion League eliminating teams.

Regarding in this season Arsenal is the most favorite winning Europe League but on 16th round Sporting Lisbon success eliminated The Gunner, one important thing about the winner Europe League is not depend how consistent performance in domestic league. Sevilla has very poor performance in La Liga but success won Europe League.
We will have three teams from Premier League for the title in next season Brighton Albion, Liverpool and West Ham United as they are second Conference Cup winner in this season and now have chance for the next season in Europa Cup but right now we can't predict who is going to win and how things will be in next season because it's never been easy with Liverpool which is not consistent in last few seasons surely need to work on their quality and also consistency because they are facing troubles which are surely not allowing them to have better performance in big matches.

No doubt Arsenal and Manchester United were both hot favorite for the win, but sadly both have no place into last four with due to poor performance in knock out rounds which is surely giving all how teams need to prepare for this event and any team can give you setback in any match Sevilla which was worst team in La Liga won the title and now going to play Champions League in next season which is surely amazing.
1418  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can One's Religion Compel A Compulsive Gambler To Quit Gambling on: June 17, 2023, 04:25:50 AM
Generally, I don't think that you can compel someone to stop doing something or do something that they don't do, if you force them, they might act like they've left doing it or if you are making them do something, they will do it in front of you but with a heavy heart and won't actually do it from their heart which is useless in my opinion, if they do a practice themselves because they believe it is good or bad for them, that is what matters.

There are religions that prohibit gambling, like Islam, which doesn't allow Muslims to gamble because it is considered a sin and the money earned from it is considered Haram (prohibited to use), so if someone converts and becomes a Muslim, they are religiously not allowed to do it, but no one can compel them, if their religious beliefs are strong, they might stop doing it themselves.
1419  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Advice when you are going a bit far in gaming and betting on: June 16, 2023, 04:31:01 PM
Unfortunately on your last point, people can often turn to gambling situations (especially when online betting) because they actually suffer from loneliness and are looking to add a bit more excitement into their life. You're right on that point, but perhaps to expand a little - try to find a new hobbie or activity that is away from the usual environment where you gamble and you must make a conscious recognition at the beginning if you are going near any gambling triggers. Triggers could be drinking alcohol, feeling bored or visiting a certain location. You must make extra effort to avoid those scenarios as you cut loose.
If you are aware that you are lonely and then bad things can happen later on like you will find yourself playing inside a casino and eventually lose money, you better find a companion now. It's either you invite someone to come over your house or you are the ones who will go outside.

If it's about being excited, there are alternatives which has a lite consequences only compared to gambling. They say finding a new hobby helps but you add something that I never seen before and that is, that hobby must be away from the usual environment. I agree on that because it's easy to put down the new hobby and pick up your phone, pc or laptop to play gambling for a while. I don't know that drinking alcohol can trigger it too but usually, alcohol can give us a good mood alone and we never look for others anymore.
1420  Economy / Gambling / Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding? on: June 16, 2023, 03:46:30 PM
This thread always talks about how it is possible to launder money, and I have little experience in this matter, which makes me think that how can they launder money with casinos if they require KYC, for example a player who You want to launder money, deposit 20 thousand usd in cryptocurrencies, I imagine you have to bet I don't know 5% and from there if you lose it, you still withdraw it? because the KYC requirement is something quite strong, anyone cannot enter with such a large amount and then withdraw it to another wallet, that is what I think of those who launder money, that it must be very difficult.
Maybe because that is what this thread all about. You said you have a little experience, so does it mean you have tried to launder money before? Grin just kidding. Most of us here are not money launderers so we have no experience about it but we only have an idea on how it works.

A casino can require a KYC but some are not totally strict. They only require you to upload an I.D. A money launderer can just rent or buy another I.D for this. Also not all casino has a KYC on them. Money launderers are free to use this. Doing a KYC had some benefits like an increase in player's deposit. It can actually make them more trusted in the eyes of the casino owners.
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