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1  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin money? on: April 07, 2017, 06:17:35 PM
how about it when salt was scarce and people were using it instead of money?
was that money? you you'd call it trading?
because if so, then using money is still trading - you just give value and use it to get commodities.
2  Other / Politics & Society / Are we brainwashed? on: April 06, 2017, 06:48:57 PM
I look around and see people no longer have goals.
We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction.
No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies.
In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus.
3  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Bitcoin be replaced by another cryptocurrency? on: April 06, 2017, 05:20:09 PM
As Ive observed, bitcoin cannot be replaced by another cryptocurrency. Nowadays, bitcoin has become growing daily, increasing its price and demand. It cannot be replace because many are using btc already and attracted to bitcoin.

Do you really believe that?
There was a time when bitcoin was around 1300$. Then is dropped to something like 200$, not it's back around the 1000$ mark.
I do not think bitcoin will disappear in the near future, but you do see, I believe, how unstable it is. Its value, anyway.
4  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Europe is under NAZI occupation! on: April 06, 2017, 04:38:31 PM
Is there a point for this thing? Where are you trying to get to?
I would be curious to know what country you are from. Did you suffer from any EU actions? Or do you feel any benefits from the EU?
4th reich? Come on - where do you get these conspiracy theories?

BTW - I like all the black&white photos - they look very menacing. And also, I'm sure all those people were living when EU was founded!
5  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Why it is said that bitcoin is centralized? on: April 06, 2017, 03:25:08 PM
Wrong, bitcoin is not centralised but it's opposite of that. Bitcoin us decentralised which means no other 3rd party can alter the bitcoin network and government could also can't impose tax on bitcoin. All I know is bitcoin is automated and no one can change the system.

Exactly my thought. It's decentralised. From what I always understood is that it's in a way free - like the internet.
But, just like the "free" internet, governments are trying their best to control it, to control users, and to impose some kind of tax for work they did not do.
6  Economy / Economics / Re: The Real Reason to Hold Gold And Bitcoin on: April 06, 2017, 02:15:34 PM
Bitcoin is pretty much unstable. Maybe more suited for trading and such.
But for long term gold is better. That's why is was chosen as the best metal. It keeps in time and in almost any type of scenario or environment.
7  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are you with or against "the U.K. quits the European Union" ? on: April 06, 2017, 01:43:37 PM
To to user that said that the EU is another german reich, a fourth reich - really? That's the best idea you've come up with? Jesus. Look at all the benefits: a single type on money - the euro, open borders.  A new reich? Unbelievable.
The UK thought it was too much work and chickened out.
8  Economy / Economics / Re: (SSS) - A Sane and Simple bitcoin Savings plan on: April 01, 2017, 05:39:44 PM
Seeing as how there are more and more users, and the halving has already passed it's obvious that it will become more and more complicated to gain bitcoin and have a decent amount in a reasonable time.
9  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin business idea on: April 01, 2017, 11:34:24 AM
Any business can make money. Bitcoin is only the payment tool. Of course, if you want to make bitcoin with bitcoin (and that is what I think you're asking for) then that's another matter. If have to think about ways in which dealing with bitcoin gets you more bitcoin like lending and such, like you said - a blog ABOUT bitcoin.
10  Bitcoin / Legal / Bankruptcy Judge: Bitcoin CEO Must Come to the United States to Be Deposed on: April 04, 2014, 07:46:41 PM
http://www.lexisnexis.com/legalnewsroom/bankruptcy/b/bankruptcy-law-blog/archive/2014/04/03/bankruptcy-judge-bitcoin-ceo-must-come-to-the-united-states-to-be-deposed.aspx
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DALLAS — (Mealey’s) The federal bankruptcy judge presiding over the Chapter 11 case of bitcoin exchange operator MtGox Co. Ltd. today ordered the company’s CEO to fly to the United States from Japan to be deposed, a source told the LexisNexis Bankruptcy Report (In Re:  MtGox Co. Ltd., No. 14-31229, Chapter 15, N.D. Texas Bkcy.).

Bankruptcy

MtGox Co. Ltd. filed for Chapter 15 bankruptcy on March 9- Before its petition, Mark Karpeles, the CEO of MtGox Co. Ltd., filed an application to commence civil rehabilitation proceedings in the Tokyo District Court- Civil rehabilitation is the Japanese equivalent of filing for bankruptcy in the United States.

MtGox Co. Ltd. is the parent company for MtGox Inc., MtGox KK and Tibanne KK, all of which entered bankruptcy at the same time.

The same day MtGox Co. Ltd. filed for civil rehabilitation, a group of investors filed a putative class action against MtGox Inc. in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Illinois, alleging fraud, breach of contract and other causes of action related to the loss of 744,000 bitcoins, which the investors contended were valued at $409.2 million (Gregory Greene, et al. v. MtGox Inc., No. 14-01437, N.D. Ill.).

On March 25, the investors moved in the U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the Northern District of Texas to compel Karpeles to provide deposition testimony and offered to pay his travel expenses from Japan to the United States.

Travel

Despite the offer, the investors contend that Karpeles persisted in his refusal to travel to the United States “based solely on the inconvenience of the time it takes for a flight to the United States and an amorphous need to focus on the Japan proceeding.”

Bankruptcy Judge Stacey G. Jernigan issued a verbal order from the bench, a source said, which compels Karpeles to come to the United States and give deposition testimony.

The class is represented by Christopher L. Dore, Jay Edelson, David I. Mindell and Alicia Hwang of Edelson in Chicago and Segeven L. Woodrow and Megan Lindsey of Edelson in Denver- The MtGox entities are represented by Junko Suetomi and Yamamoto Hideyuki of Baker & McKenzie, Akio Shinomiya and Kazumasa Kawai of Yodoyabashi & Yamagami Legal Professional Corp. and Nobuaki Kobayashi of Nagashima Ohno & Tsunematsu, all in Tokyo- Karpeles is represented by David W. Parham and John Mitchell of Baker & McKenzie in Dallas.
11  Economy / Speculation / 'Malleability' Attacks Not to Blame for Mt. Gox's Missing Bitcoins, Study Says on: March 27, 2014, 08:49:21 PM
http://www.cio.com/article/750351/_39_Malleability_39_Attacks_Not_to_Blame_for_Mt._Gox_39_s_Missing_Bitcoins_Study_Says?page=2&taxonomyId=3055
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IDG News Service (Tokyo Bureau) — Fewer than 400 bitcoins could have been stolen from the Mt. Gox Bitcoin exchange using so-called transaction malleability attacks, according to A Swiss study, far less than the hundreds of thousands of bitcoins the company reported.

The findings cast doubt on the failed exchange's explanation of how it lost nearly half a billion dollars' worth of the digital currency when it applied for bankruptcy protection in Tokyo on Feb. 28.

The study was written by Christian Decker and Roger Wattenhofer of the Distributed Computing Group at the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology Zurich (ETH). It was uploaded to the academic prepress site ArXiv.org and has not been published by a peer-reviewed journal.

"In February 2014 MtGox, once the largest Bitcoin exchange, closed and filed for bankruptcy claiming that attackers used malleability attacks to drain its accounts," the authors, who have authored several papers on Bitcoin and distributed systems, write.

"In this work we use traces of the Bitcoin network for over a year preceding the filing to show that, while the problem is real, there was no widespread use of malleability attacks before the closure of MtGox."

The study looks into the plausibility of the claim that transaction malleability brought down Mt. Gox. The Tokyo-based exchange had said that a bug in the Bitcoin software could be used to fraudulently alter the records of how bitcoins change hands.

When Mt. Gox collapsed with liabilities of AY=6.5 billion (US$63.6 million), it said that it had lost about 850,000 bitcoins, which would have been worth some $474 million. It cited exploitation of a bug in the Bitcoin system, saying it believed "that there is a high probability that these bitcoins were stolen as a result of an abuse of this bug."

Before trading stopped at the exchange on Feb. 25, Mt. Gox had blamed the transaction malleability issue when it suspended withdrawals of bitcoin to outside addresses.

In their study, the ETH researchers describe how they created specialized nodes that could trace, from January 2013, all transactions on the Bitcoin network including double-spending attacks, of which malleability attacks are described as a variant.

They found that only 302,700 bitcoins were involved in malleability attacks.

"Of these, only 1,811 bitcoins were in attacks before MtGox stopped users from withdrawing bitcoins," they wrote. "Even more, 78.64 percent of these attacks were ineffective. As such, barely 386 bitcoins could have been stolen using malleability attacks from MtGox or from other businesses. Even if all of these attacks were targeted against MtGox, MtGox needs to explain the whereabouts of 849,600 bitcoins."

Mt. Gox CEO Mark Karpeles did not respond to an email seeking comment on the study.

In an email, Wattenhoffer said the study has not been submitted to a peer-reviewed journal, adding "We will do this eventually, but reviewing takes time, and in this case we felt that some people might be eager to hear the news before the usual several-months peer-review cycle is over."

While observers on the Bitcointalk.org forum welcomed the study, they also cautioned that it only went back as far as January 2013.

"It's possible Gox was hit much harder in previous years," one commentator wrote. "Although that would also mean the amount of time they spent oblivious to the problem increases."

Software developer Mike Hearn, who works on bitcoin-related projects, welcomed the study's findings. "People were raising the alarm about this claim almost as soon as it was made by Mt Gox. Although in theory their explanation could have worked (if we assume really bad decisions on their part like not investigating failed withdrawals and just repeating them), the vast sums of money being talked about stretched credulity. And nobody else had reported observing lots of mutated transactions. Now we have data to prove this was correct," he said via email.
12  Economy / Speculation / Re: Poll: Market effect of a MtGox payout. on: March 26, 2014, 12:58:24 AM
I've no idea and I wouldn't give a flying fuck about the short term price if it means thousands upon thousands of people are saved from Bitcoin ruin.
This,and 1/2 billion missing from the btc economy should be frowned upon.
13  Economy / Speculation / Vicurex freezing withdrawals. on: March 23, 2014, 05:13:21 PM
This not only affects BTC,but also some alt-coins as well.
http://www.dcmagnates.com/ouch-now-vircurex-is-freezing-withdrawals-to-cover-last-years-losses/
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Frozen Funds

In preparation of the following, we have with immediate effect stopped the possibilities to withdraw BTC, LTC, FTC and TRC. All incoming deposits will also not be credited to the users accounts for the time being.

On 24th March 2014 we will be freezing the current BTC, LTC, TRC and FTC accounts, then perform the below distribution of the available coins and reenable deposits and withdrawals. This action will also require us to delete all open sell orders for BTC, LTC, FTC and TRC.

As you may very well be aware, we had two incidents last year that lead to a loss of a significant number of BTC, LTC, FTC, TRC. We had communicated at that time that we will be covering those losses from our income, which we have done so far. We had enough coin balances in our cold wallet to upkeep our platform and the positive cashflow enabled us to gradually refill the wallets.

Unfortunately we had large fund withdrawals in the last weeks which have lead to a complete depletion of our cold wallet balance and we are now facing the option of either closing the site with significant unrecoverable losses for all or to work out a solution that allows the exchange to continue to operate and gradually pay back the losses.

We have obviously chosen the later and hence are going to do the following:

    1. We will introduce an additional balance type called "Frozen Funds". Funds in this balance type cannot be used to trade or withdraw. Those are the balances that the exchange will gradually pay back and hence transfer back to the available balance over time.
    2. We will move all current balances for BTC, LTC, TRC and FTC to the "Frozen Balance", i.e. your balance will be set to 0.
    3. We'll take the current available cold storage balance and distribute it based on the below described distribution logic.
    4. Monthly we will take the net profit of the exhchange and credit back that amount distributed to the users based on the described distribution logic.
14  Economy / Service Discussion / Mtgox continued BTC withdrawals on: March 13, 2014, 11:55:47 PM
I just find it interesting that BTC is still being withdrawn despite all that has been going on.


http://coinsight.org/mtgox/

http://www.lexisnexis.com/legalnewsroom/mealeys/b/newsheadlines/archive/2014/03/13/mealey-39-s-ip-tech-federal-judge-freezes-bitcoin-company-mtgox-inc-39-s-assets-expedites-discovery.aspx
15  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin down Litecoin UP 2014 on: March 13, 2014, 11:50:27 PM
Many say the same thing for the US government or 'hackers' selling large amounts of BTC,but still nothing I can see.
16  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitstamp is the Next Gox and why Bitcoin will be at $300 soon on: March 09, 2014, 06:41:18 PM

I think it's a myth that ex Gox customers, should scramble to Bitstamp after the bankruptcy.

If they had any there they have less now, and before, they considered Gox the safest option.

If they managed to withdraw in time, they don't intent to have their coins on another exchange.

Volumes are falling on all the exchanges, Ask orders are dwindling too. We will see another sharp dip into in a few days. This time into the sub 300.

The implications of Gox has a lot to do with the future of bitcoin still. more has to come out i the open before it's impact can be assessed. 
Exactly,not to mention the implications of them owning the trademark to the name as well.There are far more issues associated with this than just the USD exchange rate.When a company cannot account for 1/2 billion in BTC I don't see how that would incite trust/investment.
17  Economy / Speculation / Re: Doubts about bitcoin these days... on: March 08, 2014, 10:10:42 PM
I actually do agree with the OP to some extent.I did lose some coins during this gox fiasco and have taken a pause from BTC to reflect on the loss.The bitcoin exchanges have become a major problem in the last few years and users interested in BTC have become the scapegoat of those losses .BTC exchanges,money and greed I don't think were ever the intent of BTC,but slowly and surely it has matured alongside.1/2 billion dollars is a lot to lose and for MT Gox to get away with.

I was thinking perhaps it is time for BTC to not be so anonymous anymore,but each coin is imprinted with biometric identifiers so even if stolen they would be marked.
18  Economy / Speculation / Re: Mark K "The coins are not lost, just temporarily unavailable" - chat log on: February 26, 2014, 03:43:20 AM
Hahaha,The Japanese authorities are looking into it.We'll see how this goes I think many will obviously be looking at the network very closely and on stamp and other exchanges for big sells.

Many of us knew they couldn't stay relevant while halting withdrawals on money and bitcoins as well...it doesn't give confidence.I am actually now wondering what happens to their IP considering I think someone mentioned they bought the bitcoin nick.
19  Economy / Speculation / Re: MTGOX SUBPOENAED BY US PROSECUTOR on: February 26, 2014, 03:38:53 AM
^Good,this could get interesting.
20  Economy / Speculation / Re: Mt.Gox Crash coming LawSuit filed today on: February 23, 2014, 06:06:28 PM
I wonder if this is an attempt to keep the price low while someone tries to get their deposit their in time for cheap coins.
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