hal seperti ini memang sudah sangat sering terjadi,
apalagi grup tele yang membuat duplikat official, ini yang sangat berbahaya.
saya dulu pernah di salah satu grup proyek,
dan grup tersebut tertulis official,
dan suatu hari ada sebuah giveaway, yang intinya jika memberi sejumlah eth akan dikembalikan 10x lipat.
tapi setelah saya selidiki, grup tersebut adalah duplikat.
dan saya juga mengingatkan bahwa hati-hati dengan grup yang kita ikuti, bisa jadi grup tersebut tidak resmi meskipun bertuliskan official.

bagaimanapun deskripsi dan tujuan dibuatkannya signal, kita harus berhati-hati.
itu anjuran saya, karena signal seperti itu biasanya suka menipu, meskipun tidak semua ya, tapi untuk berjaga jaga saja.
karena biasanya kadang signal seperti itu digunakan untuk kepentingan semata, seperti contohnya,
mereka menulis di signal dengan membeli,
tapi mereka sendiri tidak membeli, melainkan menjual,
nah ini salah satu bahayanya,

Aplikasi penghasil bitcoin memang cukup ramai akhir-akhir ini. dan yang saya tahu sampai sempat viral adalah pivot, meskipun saya pribadi belum pernah mencobanya.
tapi, bagaimanapun aplikasi penghasil bitcoin seperti itu harus kita waspadai,
bukan berarti saya berfikir negatif, tapi hati-hati saja mungkin ada aplikasi yang berniat untuk mencuri data kita diandroid,
di jaman sekaran,g siapa yang memang benar-benar ingin memberikan bitcoin secara gratis? ditambah harga bitcoin mencapai ribuan USD.
tapi bagaimanapun itu bukanlah ancaman, hanya perlu berhati-hati dan patut untuk diwaspadai agar tidak salah jalan adalah jalan terbaik.

kabarnya sudah bisa kan ya?
padahal enak trading token eth di sana bisa jual atau beli hanya dengan masukkan token address nya 

jual tokenya ke ethereum yang paling lengkap di etherdelta.
terus tinggal trasnfer deh eth nya ke vip selesai dan jual ke IDR

beli ghs di minergate emang dikit untungnya kayaknya klw mw beli ghs di hitung dulu.
kan sdh ad tu calcolator nya https://minergate.com/calculator/cloud
sya sdh pernah cobak emang dikit banget.

Sorry if I pissed anyone off with my comment  

As I said, was one of the biggest supporters of this coin.

And no it's not dead-dead. But it might as well be, is all I'm saying. It has been on a steady downhill in value for what, over 2 years now? It went from what, 50,000 sats to 80 sats? I dunno I guess some have different idea's of what dead is. For me, it's just about next to worthless at 80 sats, and there seems virtually no chance it'll go up, so, well, make your own conclusions I guess.  And for anyone that lost 96% or whatever of the BTC they put into it, I'm sure they'd figure the coin to be dead as well.

And definitely not dissin Tranz or the coin itself. But lets be real about this. A PoS coin will naturally always have huge sell pressure and the price is just about subterranean now, and there is no foreseeable reason why there would be any price pressure in the opposite direction. And besides all that even, the blockchain and resource use of HBN is getting way too high.

But hey if you still dig it, keep it going, by all means.

Guys, be reasonable, this coin is pretty much dead. I mean its selling for what, 80 satoshis? That's a joke.

I'm not trying to be an ass. I was as a big of a supporter of this coin as anyone, and lost BTC on it, and was mining almost since the beginning. The coin itself was really good, wallet software pretty good, and I thought it would do better but it didn't.  But at this point its all moot, this coin is toast.  I figured it was pretty much over with Cryptsy.

There are just too many [hundreds] of altcoins and HBN got lost in the mix after the big initial pump and dump and their was no ecosystem large enough to support it.

It had a good run I guess.  But RIP Hobonickels.  I think I have around 15,000 left but its not even worth the power any more to mine them anymore, even though its POS, (or even redownload the chain again, last time it corrupted was nightmare) and that should tell you something.
 

Ugh, too early in the day for this dump        I gotta sleep, hold off for a bit bitcoin.

Yup, UK over. Just England now. 

I think I'm gonna spend tonight staring at the charts! This is could go anywhere. Pure craziness.

A 540 bottom would be fine Mr Bitcoin. Just keep on headed in the right direction, that's good now, keep goin' Mr Bitcoin...

The UK vote (brexit IMHO is such a dumb term) was part things, but only a small part. The halving is a much bigger part. But the biggest part? Speculation and confidence and mood.

Market just isn't too enthusiastic today.

A lot of good news IMHO in the last little while. Today there was that positive news re Paypal finally warming up to bitcoin. The DAO not-hack and ETH dive I thought would translate into more folks shifting to coins to BTC but..  fack. Sub <600.  Sigh.  Really hope this is the bottom in the near term but nobody much is in the mood to buy, everyone seems to be waiting for an ever-better re-entry point.

Ah so it goes, bitcoin.

Crap, we be bleedin' mightily here.

This is tough to watch if your holdin'.

Yup, today is a good day to buy. 

I feel like a moron for not taking my own advice on Friday and buying coins way higher than I should. But not panicking yet, as I think 800 is more likely than 600 in two weeks.  Enough time for gains for my shirt to re-threaded and recomposed.

Wowsers, 50btc at near the 2 year high was a pretty risky.  Hope this turns around for you. I'm guessing we'll see 750 again though in the next 2 weeks.

Don't think that is it, for the simple reason that it is much easier to acquire ETH by trading your BTC for it, not selling your BTC than transferring money than buying ETH with USD.

Bitcoin is pretty awesome. People last month were like "Oh bitcoin is like $550 USD awesome" and now more people have realized this, especially people who prefer rice to potatoes, and are now like "Oh bitcoin is like $750 USD awesome" and the halving.

Good call guy.

With this current behavior I can totally see breaking 1000 usd at least. I only just barely entertained that we'd be here at 750 a month ago.