Well that's it for Cryptsy, done like dinner.

 http://blog.cryptsy.com/

Oh they were 'hacked'. Pretty big surprise. I think most of us saw this a mile away.

I've been staking for awhile but not selling any HBN. Are we on any other exchanges?

"There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know."  --hero of the empire Donald Rumsfeld

These are valid and worthwhile points but personally I don't feel the comparison is warranted. Bitcoin is not similar enough to stocks to compare, as it is a new paradigm; we are really in uncharted territory with it (literally).   Even just considering bitcoin is data/energy-wealth and non-tangible whereas stocks represent physical, matter-based assets, for the most part (in generalization across an entire stock market as you suggest).

I'd say that if we hit 1k in January, then  we'll likely crash to 200 or 300 right after.

I'm personally hoping the massive booms are over (350%+ in a month say) and instead we are getting into a more mature phase of slow, consistent growth instead.

1k in Jan could happen, but I think it would be even better if we were at a steady $500 instead.

Bitcoin is simply not old enough to be able to declare any sort of 900 day cycles going on.

I'd say this is a fallacy, but interesting nonetheless, thanks for posting. But I think this is tantamount to a 4 year old ruminating on how there life has been a periodic and discernible cycle of positive and negative 230 day phases of good food and bad food. 

We haven't been above 400 that long at all so I think the odds are decent we'll see 330-360 prices again within 2 months. Personally I really hope so, and wish I bought more coins early this year.

I think the market is quite bullish though, and its not a mini bubble now but mostly healthy, natural growth (pumps being a part of this),  so I would be surprised if we fell <300, especially with the halving on the horizon and the near-complete fabrication of the funny money world of fiat currency due for another predictable minor spasms of collapse in 2016 in my humble estimation. (When its gets harder and harder to print yourself out of debt, the value of non-fiat assets and currencies will inexorably climb. The Earth is due for a lot more war or at least a couple countries economies crashing as fiscal realities clash with unreal monetary policy in 2016).

Things are lookin up.

Cryptsy really looks like it is going down. Withdrawing btc seems hopeless, but can people withdraw HBN and other alt coins? Or is it totally shutdown.

I used cryptsy less and less as my withdraw delays took longer and longer.

I'm happy. Was sitting all in fiat. Not a fan. It gives me an itch.

An itch to buy more bitcoin !

If my premise is correct -- that bitcoin always behaves in the opposite of manner of what I expect -- I believe we'll stay at 450 for a day and then climb to 500 over the 3 days.

I don't see us going sub <400 this month, but hope we do though, as I'm all fiat and sold right now.

Wrong section I think (though thanks for posting; I hate scammers).

There is an entire sub forum for 'scam accusations' I believe.

Here we go, its not exactly plain to find:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0

No doom and gloom here. I think we aren't going below $325 - $330 for the foreseeable future, and will slowly climb to a 'somewhat steady' 360 - 390 range in December with peaks at 420.

I have all the proof in the fancy chart I have here.... oh darn it, looks like I left the chart at home.

But i don't see <300 like a lot of folks seem to in the near future.

But who knows.

Any guesses on the bottom?

Sincere thanks to shitfanleaks.  Thank you for this update.

I hope Jon Montroll gets cancer.

Are you really expecting to hear from Jon Montroll, or any other crooks behind Bitfunder / We Exchange? Really? If so that's pretty delusional.

What's truly funny is the shares still being traded on havelock. Even at junk prices, the company doesn't even really exist anymore and still people are trading them like any scammy crapcoin.

Personally I'm a big fan of Bitcoin's volatility.  There are good places to profit with volatility.  Trading in the vast majority of standard stocks are not even close to as interesting.

Bitcoin is also open to manipulation, sure. But the manipulation is open to every one   For many established securities and traditional investments only the banks and other big players can manipulate it.  Bitcoin offers manipulation to the masses haha .

Besides, the chaos is fun.

I've bought bitcoin as low as $10 a coin and sold as high as a $1000. And all in just a very few years. That's amazing. That's chaos, but I like it.

And after I have, on many occasions, made a successful trade for 10% more coins in the space of week (or even a day) it just makes me laugh to consider most people in North America invest in vehicles that pay them 5% a YEAR. Like what a joke, 5% a year is just around the level of inflation.

The risk is greater, the potential for loss or reward is greater. I'd take this any day over a typical mutual fund.

In short, bring on the chaos. It's really quite something. It's as interesting because we are still very much in the early stages; the wild west.  

20 billion ? Lol it is far more than that, where did you get that figure?

The first thing that comes to mine is when Donald Rumsfield had that press conference the day before 9 / 11 saying that the Pentagon has 'lost track' of 2.3 trillion dollars.

Or the transport planes full of cash that mysteriously went missing in Iraq.

20 billion of loses isn't much at all in the scheme of how much has been lost over the last few administrations in the U. S of A .

Nah that seems completely ridiculous to me. It makes sense at first glance, but look at the numbers and it doesn't hold up for a second. (Compare the entire worth of bitcoin to China's GDP. )

As of me writing this, China's debt is somewhere around 5.3 trillion dollars USD. Bitcoin today, in fiat usd terms,  was at around 6.5 billion dollars. You can't compare China's state economics with bitcoin, or federal U.S gov economics with bitcoin, the scales aren't even close to being related.

Hobonickels. Excellent POS coin.  I haven't been following new ones, are any upcoming?