Yes. We can start some traditions meant to bring Satoshi back, and create prophecies regarding his reappearance.
Some ideas for traditions...
Burning fiat currency Sending encrypted messages
Lol.
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In the realm of details, however, that is not true. The trip will be about $500 when all is said and done. Gavin's typical salary as a programmer in the last few years, which is a matter of public record because he was working for the state of Massachusetts, was in the range of $30,000 - $40,000.
And he's working on this project, on his own fricking expense. Nobody is paying him to be the technical lead. In any case, I don't give a damn if Gavin happens to be a billionaire when he present Bitcoin to the CIA.
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Let return to the bitcoin holiday question:
Do you think we should celebrate a special occasion for the disappearance of satoshi from our world?
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I have no sense of entitlement at all; I'm not asking for the money myself, obviously.
I think it's manifestly wrong to suggest he's being paid as a random person knowledgeable about Bitcoin, rather than as the lead developer. I would be very surprised if his speaking ability, whatever it might be, entered even slightly into the decision to invite him. Someone almost surely made a list of interesting new technologies and then contacted the corporate or community leaders they identified.
Dude, you can't explain why this is wrong. Secondary, Gavin actually presented bitcoin as a speaker.
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But it leads to potentially unfortunate project-management dynamics if, when the one chosen as "development lead" is asked to speak somewhere, he pockets the fee as if he has earned it personally rather than as a result of the efforts of the community of developers. I don't need to be a committed developer (yet?) on this project to say that; my point is that it decreases my willingness, and perhaps that of others, to volunteer time and effort to contribute.
Who these others? You? There is a more ethical and mature ethos at organizations like the Apache Software Foundation than I see in evidence in this thread. I recognize the countercultural spirit of this group (though I find the anarchic extremeness of many of its members bizarre, difficult to read, and distortive of the discussion -- for example, Bitcoin almost certainly does not represent any sort of threat to the White House, the Internal Revenue Service, or other countries' analogues of those organization, and grandiose claims of that nature are at best distracting), but that doesn't mean that the development group doesn't have lessons to learn from other open-source communities of developers.
WTF? What does these paranoia about the state have anything to do with bitcoin development mistakes?
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It's becoming difficult to read all of the posts. Several threads I just skim nowadays.
I think it's already impossible by this point.
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Broke posting record on 4/28/11 with 1369 posts in one day.
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Did you guys already forget about BitcoinUSA? That should tell you how much bitcoiners care about trading in a non anonymous way.
I think it tells us that bitcoiners do not like filling out pointless paperwork.
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I hope he will change the world again in a few years.
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link?
Gavin and TD said on IRC that satoshi is not coming back.
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The government is in a never ending quest for power! Alway for power! Never for freedom! Never for humanity! Never for good! Never for evil!
Seriously, you guys are paranoid.
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Since satoshi has been confirmed to be not coming back, the bitcoin community now have to fend for ourselves.
I propose we make a bitcoin holiday in honor of our legendary anonymous founder and to observe the fact that the bitcoin community will be just fine after the inventor of bitcoin left.
Even if Gavin is hit by the bus tomorrow, we can live.
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In anticipation, when the price of a bitcoin is 3 dollars or more, the commision fee that bitcoinweekly is offering will be 1.66 BTC.
Anybody who had sent me draft or had me approve the proposal or even further the line into revising drafts, are entitled to 2.5 BTC.
Kiba out!
(Meanwhile, Bitcoin Weekly's capital reserve increases. Woohoo!)
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You know, I don't like the policy of censorship and separation anymore.
Originally, this is about keeping the perception of bitcoin "pure and clean". But now we see how slippery this god damn slope is.
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This "s" guy rubs me the wrong way, seriously.
He's talking about the community and whatever, deciding Gavin need to do this and this for the sake of the community.
Pfft. What s thinks is not what I think, and certainly not what others think.
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The "slave" talk is rubbish. I'm calling on him to say what he'll do with the money; he can choose or choose not to do so ("voluntarily," as libertarians like to say). Which he chooses will inform the community about features of its organization and of Gavin.
Inform what about Gavin? What do you wish to get out of it what? Too many in this forum respond with blind negativity to anything that sounds like cooperation, which is particularly ironic in an open-source community. The most ridiculous along those lines that I've seen was, in an early discussion of pooled mining, the response: "But isn't pooling communism?" For people professedly so concerned with political theory, it might help actually to read some political theory. (Also, it might help to examine the world a bit more empirically; for example, do you think neoclassical economics and the incentive structure it proposes easily explains the motivations behind the developers of Linux?)
If this ain't a strawman, I don't know what it is.
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That has basically already happened: see the first "news" link on bitcoinwatch.com
As an employee of bitcoinwatch/bitcoinchart, I must said that it's bitcoinwatch, not the bitcoin community.
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whether Gavin pockets the $3000 for personal use rather than accepting it on behalf of the community he represents is a bigger issue because of what it represents about the organization of this community.
And he isn't getting paid by anybody to develop bitcoin. Again, his money, his choice. He is a human being, not a slave to "the community".
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And that shows the absurdity of banning stuff. What people thinks is bad/evil sometime isn't. We bitcoiners for the most part don't think that voluntary trade is evil but we are so worried about perception making an impact on the success and failure of bitcoin.
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I am a gray market actor. Hope you don't ban people like me.
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