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1321  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: MTGOX so let me get this straight.... on: April 12, 2013, 03:00:28 AM
We simply expect a company that makes millions of dollars to be capable of hiring 1 person who knows how to setup additional servers to handle the extra load. I bet they could pay at least 300 people on this forum to fly out there, PURCHASE AND INSTALL new servers within a week. But this has been ongoing since.......wait was there ever a time this wasnt an issue?
1322  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BBQCoin, the coin you want to eat. on: April 11, 2013, 08:57:13 PM
BBQ is being implemented into one of the exchanges as we speak. Get to hoarding!
1323  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Devcoin on: April 11, 2013, 01:41:03 AM
Hello, I'm having trouble accessing devtome.com reliably. I can load most pages, but I am not able to log in without it timing out. Is anyone else experiencing this, or is it a local problem?

Have you tried another browser?
1324  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Litecoin FPGA Production - Serious Inquiry on: April 11, 2013, 12:25:24 AM
Well first step would be comb through the old open fpga bitcoin project, that will give you most of the stepping stones. But you will need to read through the code yourself. It is a mess and extremely undocumented so if you cant find something let me know I might be able to point you to the resources we found along the way. Maybe you will be able to put the pieces in less than 5 months like it took us.
1325  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Litecoin FPGA Production - Serious Inquiry on: April 11, 2013, 12:05:57 AM
Defnetly interesting. maybe you come up with a concept to reuse old FPGAs as well. Like all those spartan boards out there (without memory) could be used in a chain to work with scrypt?! (Just guessing here, i don't know much about this)


There are other issues involved beyond memory.....we went down that road already a few months back.

Operatr: If you need help I am happy to give any assistance. The point of the fpga is to build value into LTC, we are not out to squash any potential competition. PM me if you would like any help I can offer.
1326  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Litecoin FPGA Production - Serious Inquiry on: April 10, 2013, 04:23:32 PM
>1. Do you think the market and community is ready for FPGA Litecoin?
Yes.

>2. Is there definite interest in FPGA Litecoin machines? Would you buy one if the price was reasonable? What is reasonable?
Would definitely buy some. Maybe $2k worth. And a reasonable price would be $1 per 1.0 - 1.5KH/s (If power use was low)

>3. Would you pre-order one to support first round funding for prototyping and first wave production?
Probably not. One month wait at most. Just cause I've already waited once with BFL, and don't care to do it again. If you're going to hold my money, I'd rather use that money to build a GPU rig and run it for a few months. Then sell off the parts for the money to buy a working one that is ready to ship.

Which is the issue, the community has be so thoroughly burned you will end up having to fund it yourselves like we are doing. Or accept preorders and all the BS that will be thrown at you along with it. Its a double edged sword.
1327  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Litecoin FPGA Production - Serious Inquiry on: April 10, 2013, 04:04:36 PM
I would suggest looking over the open fpga project for bitcoin first. See if it will work for what your considering. If it does not look like something you would be able to easily implement (it took us many months to use it as a guide) then I would not bother. That would be a good starting point since you do not even want to touch scrypt until you know you can handle sha256 since you will most likely need to write your own module from scratch. And there is basically 0 documentation for fpga implementation of the salsa stream cipher. And the sha256 fpga documentation is incomplete and undocumented from what we found, it looks like the open fpga project was created just to get the bounty and was left almost completely undocumented except for the bits where it would effect the bounty.
1328  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: 7990 hashing speed? on: April 10, 2013, 12:22:47 AM
Each core is basically a 7970. Take the speeds of a 7970, and double it. @ 1100MHz, expect ~1.3GH/s.

So its basically a 5970 for current day. So that would put the cap of 8 gpus on each rig as usual. But potentially faster than any other options so you could have 4 7990s @ 5.2gh/s or 2.4gh/s for 4 7950s?
1329  Bitcoin / Mining support / 7990 hashing speed? on: April 09, 2013, 11:57:52 PM
Anyone got a speed on the 7990, cannot seem to find info on its speed for btc or ltc?
1330  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which ALT-coins can really make it? on: April 09, 2013, 11:38:56 PM
One of the best things about altcoins is they are mostly still "under the radar", for example how many miners even merged-mine namecoin, how many also merge devcoin, how many also merge ixcoin? Not a lot, right? Yet enoguh that all of those are a bit difficult for a newbie to mine at home easily.

But I0coin, GRouPcoin, CoiLedCoin and GeistGeld, aha, so few people include them in their merge that they are ridiculously low difficulty. Hopefully there will be some under the radar coins for years yet, so that newbies always have some coin that they can quetly mine at home for at least a few months before the big miners spoil the fun by driving the difficulty up.

However, a lot of those low difficulty coins are basically waiting for ASICs, they have been waiting a year for ASICs, they would have built huge FPGA farms if they had not constantly been told an ASIC would be shipped in four to six weeks.

So once people really can buy an off the shelf ASIC, shipped the same day you order it kind of off the shelf, maybe the main change will be people will no longer realistically be able to mine the easiest, under-the-radar coins using CPUs, GPUs or even (except litecoin type coins) FPGAs, and instead will need to buy themselves a $150 or so (cheaper than many/most GPUs) ASIC device for the fun at home tiny little hobby-miner experience.

By then the people who are mining BBQcoins, GRouPcoins, Tenebrix, CoiLedCoins, GeistGeld and such with CPUs right now might  well be quite well-to-do!

-MarkM-


Markm has a good point. All these coins need is to be setup for merged mining on and placed on an exchange.
1331  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Alternate Currencies On Exchanges. on: April 09, 2013, 11:16:46 PM
Any further opinions on this?

BTC
LTC
DVC
NMC
BQC

Have not seen a valid argument to support any others on an exchange.
1332  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / NMC - Extremely neglected alt coin Ideas of what to do with it on: April 09, 2013, 01:11:58 AM
NMC Looking for ideas of ways nmc can be usefully implemented into sites.

I was considering a registrar similar to what people are used to having, so that it may be put into use more. Any thoughts?
1333  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] HP Pavilion G6 laptop ***SOLD**** on: April 09, 2013, 12:48:29 AM
Works as described. Thanks Smiley
1334  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BBQCoin, the coin you want to eat. on: April 08, 2013, 05:26:38 PM
There is no set rate. But I am buying 250k BBQ for 0.50 btc if anyone is selling Smiley
1335  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Devcoin QT Wallet For Windows Users Discussion Thread on: April 08, 2013, 06:56:53 AM
Hmm, not sure about that one then, may beed to ask killer.
1336  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Devcoin QT Wallet For Windows Users Discussion Thread on: April 08, 2013, 06:39:25 AM
After you downloaded all the files, did you put them into the appdata folder for devcoin and after you did that did you reopen it so it resynches?
1337  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] XFX 7970 Core edition on: April 08, 2013, 04:16:06 AM
well, has it sold yet?

Exactly - you are limiting your buying audience when you do that..

GL with sale and all, but don't get butthurt when not accepting escrow is pointed out..



See PatMan miter_myles gets my point if you do not trust someone you do not have to trade and a lot of the time it is super easy to spot scammers.
1338  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Devcoin QT Wallet For Windows Users Discussion Thread on: April 07, 2013, 11:48:38 PM
You can download any missing ones at http://devtome.com/files
1339  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BBQCoin, the coin you want to eat. on: April 07, 2013, 09:44:36 PM
I need a link to the bbq source on git captchadd can you post it?
1340  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: LTC FPGA discussion! on: April 07, 2013, 06:50:27 PM
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So I'd be very interested in the Litecoin mining gear - especially FPGA kit that consumes very little power. I have the risk appetite for this game as I've already shown, but the ASIC situation has me very wary of allocating further capital at Bitcoin mining equipment. I'm bored of GPUs and having my main house sweltering through winter at over 30 deg C with the windows open in winter (!!!!), and whilst a fancy rack of tens of GPUs can be used *right now*, I've also paid the electricity bills for a couple of quarters of constant use of such devices. They have very very substantial operating costs. A fancy FPGA assembly with 25-100 modular boards, whilst fun in terms of geek-appeal, also has the big benefit of not costing significant amounts of money to run.

Finally (phew...) - is there something genuinely innovative and unique to your approach that gives you no competition, so that I should be seriously starting the process of considering allocation in your direction? What is the barrier preventing my existing cluster of Spartan-6 FPGAs being repurposed with cheap plug-in auxiliary boards and a new assembly plus bitstream (I won't play Internet Engineer, I'll simply ask my old college mate who does this for real, at a senior level - but I assume there's *some* hack possible to give additional working memory to my Ztex 1.15x boards... my 1.15d boards already have more resources to begin with though).

Would your boards have fallback value too? Litecoin aren't worth much right now, so if your approach resembles the BTC experience where the FPGA units have around the same performance as a mid-range GPU but consume less than 1/10th the power, but cost more than the GPU up front, as a business case the time horizon is quite far away. This risk becomes more acceptable if the devices have intrinsic value (can be repurposed, or worst case, the chips recycled). Even better would be the ability to mine Bitcoin at low power, when transaction fees are the main mining income from *that* particular currency, if LTC doesn't work out.

I once had a couple of thousand LTC floating around before my pool arranged auto-trade for BTC, and now the pool has stopped merged mining I've renewed my interest in LTC and have set up a few test rigs for 400-500khash. However, with the price of electricity, I want to be 100% FPGA and ASIC by the end of Q2. It's only a small operation after all, and I don't want the significant ongoing cost, heat and noise of GPU rigs.


Seems though I have a choice - stick to Bitcoin, big risk, 'pre-order' nonsense with ASICs... or consider the first application of FPGA tech for the LTC blockchain. The fact that I've already lost on an ASIC 'pre-order' makes the BFL option rather unpalatable. But I'd like to keep mining - on a socioeconomic level, cryptocurrencies are a big deal to me philosophically, and part of me (less rationally) likes the 'silver to BTC gold' analogy of LTC. I'll be keeping an eye on this - when you're ready to take beta-level investors then I'd be interested. I'm no VHDL guru but I ported Stefan's (Ztex) toolchain to Mac OS X 64-bit 10.6.8 a while back, so am competent hacking the software side of things.

I am not the dev for the vhdl, but my understanding (although probably limited obviously) is that the boards you referenced do not have enough LE's ALM's and are not fast enough. You could use them but you would be getting 20kh/s or less each board. Which depending on the amount of them you have available and the fact that they are paid for, it may actually be worth using them. As for modular, that is one of our goals, but that will come around when we finish the production units. As for the being burned by the ASICs, that really sucks, and was our motivation to not mislabel our investors as preorders. Its unethical. As for porting to mac, we may take you up on that, none of our devs really like dealing with apple Tongue
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