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541  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SKY] Skycoin Launch Announcement on: April 22, 2014, 06:00:31 AM
IPO Update:

Maidsafe is IPOing 429,496,729 coins at 17,000 Maidcoins per Bitcoin. 35,264 Bitcoins for a 350,000 Bitcoin (175 million dollar) valuation. The IPO will last 30 days or until 10% of the Maidcoins have been sold. The developers will keep the other 90%.

Isn't 429 496 729 / 17 000 == 25260 bitcoin?
Then, where does the 350 000 Bitcoin come from?

I don't think he realizes if he tells blatant lies that are easily checked he loses credibility. It's a bit sad the way this threads ended up I feel stupid for watching it for so long.

Ten percent of all safecoins (429,496,729) will be made available during the crowd-sale, with a value of 17,000 safecoins per Bitcoin. Also, there are additional bonuses depending on how early you invest.

So 100%, would be roughly at least 250,000 bitcoin valuation (but it is still hard to say, because you don't exactly get 17000 safecoins per Bitcoin, as per MaidShare employer, and you can also invest Mastercoin there too). It's sad that a person who has created a thread about MaidSafe failed to straighten up the calculation for those that do not know about MaidSafe and how many coins they are releasing for the IPO, but is quick to bash about the "blatant lies".

Leave emotions and politics out of it.


 Huh not sure what you're talking about mate you sound angry though, cheer up it might not happen Grin
542  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol, Client and Coin (built on Bitcoin) - Official on: April 22, 2014, 05:28:19 AM
Devs,

I have tried to access my old Counterwallet in order to sweep the remaining balance to my new Counterwallet, but am not able to login to my old Counterwallet despite multiple attempts. I am sure I used the correct 12 word passphrase. Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks

Sorry I'm not a dev, but did you click the link for the old counterparty wallet on the counterparty wallet page first?
543  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] Safecoin maidsafecoin on: April 22, 2014, 05:14:35 AM
After researching I wouldn't, up to you though!

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/maidsafe-development
http://www.safecoin.io/

Chinese scam coin?

Yeah  Huh
544  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] Safecoin maidsafecoin on: April 22, 2014, 05:12:38 AM
The information says they are selling 10% of the safecoins. But is that current safecoins or is there a hard cap?

I like the idea and the project and would likely create some software for this but if safecoin has no hard cap and is inflationary then it is like dollars and should only be used when needed but not held. Let alone, purchased as an investment. Imagine buying Zimbabwe dollars.

No it's the hard cap, 10% prefarm! the rest are "farmed" by providing storage space to the storage network. If you wonder why I keep writing farm its because thats what they call mining mining I think because it suggests positive contribution of..rather than burning of resources!
545  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol, Client and Coin (built on Bitcoin) - Official on: April 22, 2014, 04:47:50 AM
I've just had a play with the asset feature and wanted to give some feedback.

To deal with a scenario like todays launch of Maidsafecoin on Mastercoin, it would good if there were some tools to help with distribution of assets.

I'd assume most entities that have reason to issue assets/tokens would want the funds raised in Bitcoin. last years Mastercoin fundraiser is the perfect example of this. As most people within this forum will know a vanity address beginning with the word exodus received Bitcoins and returned Mastercoins  based on the amount received and an algorithm to calculate an early investor bonus.

Some handy tools might consist of:

-A way of exporting data from a blockchain explorer (times,amounts,address) into a format that could be imported and understood by counterwallet.
-An automated issuance function, with controls to set rules such as an algorithm for early adopter bonus, assets to be sent per Bitcoin received, fee options?
-Also as a way to begin to monetize the protocol what's possible in the way of adding fees? where can they be added and what for?

Also how do you publicly prove you've locked an asset?
546  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SKY] Skycoin Launch Announcement on: April 22, 2014, 03:56:12 AM
IPO Update:

Maidsafe is IPOing 429,496,729 coins at 17,000 Maidcoins per Bitcoin. 35,264 Bitcoins for a 350,000 Bitcoin (175 million dollar) valuation. The IPO will last 30 days or until 10% of the Maidcoins have been sold. The developers will keep the other 90%.

Isn't 429 496 729 / 17 000 == 25260 bitcoin?
Then, where does the 350 000 Bitcoin come from?

I don't think he realizes if he tells blatant lies that are easily checked he loses credibility. It's a bit sad the way this threads ended up I feel stupid for watching it for so long.
547  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] Safecoin maidsafecoin on: April 22, 2014, 12:22:49 AM
Guys, am I right? Look, I need to send btc from wallet and then I'll get MaidSafeCoins. But how can I get them if my wallet is btc? I do not understand really. Also I should download mastercoin to send my MaidSafeCoins to an exchange. But how my coins, that I'll got from my btc wallet can be sent from mastercoin wallet? Pls help me to understand

If you're sure you know about the risks and you still want to trade I think it's only fair you know you can get 29750 per bitcoin at the current rate of .16 on https://www.masterxchange.com/market.php?currency=msc  Wink this is because maidsafe are exchanging at above the market rate for using Mastercoin (this will probably equalize with Bitcoin by the sale) and you get an extra *140% if your in early!  Cool

RE: Private key: Don't bother just withdraw straight from the exchange to the mastercoin web wallet.
548  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] Safecoin maidsafecoin on: April 21, 2014, 09:46:31 PM
On MasterXchange there is currently an offer of 400 MSC for .17.  I find this strange.  

Tomorrow one will be able to buy MaidSafe for either BTC or MSC.  
Since the rate is fixed, you will pay either 1/17000 BTC or 1/3400MSC per MaidSafeCoin.  

So, if you want to save money you can buy the underpriced MSC now @ .17 and spend them tomorrow to buy MaidSafe to profit 400*.03 or 12 MSC.  That is about equal to $1000.

Why are people leaving $1,000 on the table?  It seems to me there is a 100% chance of the event occurring as planned.  In that case, MSC should be priced at about .1999999 today.  However, it is still sitting way down at .17.  That is a very curious discrepancy.  

Got any idea why this is happening?



It's me, buy them please
549  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] Safecoin maidsafecoin on: April 21, 2014, 07:03:01 PM
Can someone ELI5 why MSC are used at all for funding (as opposed to BTC only) and what MaidSafe will do with them (sell them off at a later stage as a funding source, same as the BTC they raise?)?

Don't get me wrong, I am excited to see that MSC can be used here, just trying to understand. Thanks.

Go somewhere else and troll
550  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: The Official Mastercoin Foundation, Master Protocol & Mastercoin Thread on: April 21, 2014, 06:49:16 PM
What's going on with the order book on https://www.masterxchange.com/market.php?

40 Bitcoins and the entire sell book just vanished!
It is because you are a moron and the automated trading system doesn't permit trades by morons.

You could try this: https://masterxchange.com/market.php?currency=msc

By tomorrow, the price will be exactly .2.  Otherwise, all MaidSafe buyers could realize a 'discount' by first purchasing 'cheap' (<.20) MSC and then buying MaidSafeCoins rather than using BTC to buy direct.  This assures a profit on all MSC that you buy today at .16 (or anything less than .20)  So go buy up!!!  

I expect the price to hold at precisely .2 during the entire sale (30 days).  This assumes the foundation lent plenty of MSC to MaidSafe.  If they didn't lend them enough, then the price will raise above .2





Well done brains I realized that 6 seconds after David made the post saying he was changing the price to .2 allowing me to buy up everything from about .8 to .14, Bizarely about 15 hours before any of the brain dead goons on this forum or in his company even noticed.... I probably had to make a public announcement to start the rally! You'll also have noticed (actually probably not because you've got the brains of a complete cunt) before that I'd started buying small amounts at .06 when they announced the price was being shifted along to .008.

If you look at my post history you'll notice I've pumped the idea of maidsafe (you'll say duh why u do dat it makes da price go up more expensive duh!)

And were I've created fear and despair (over ironic a sound and logical argument) and you're sayin duh! why u sell for duh!

You have to assume that on the internet every anonymous entity is acting in their own self interest, have a look on any troll box. To da moon means i'm fucking selling.

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So someone finally admits to market manipulation in writing on a public message board.

Chang thanks for illustrating my point to some of our board members about people posting negative stuff to try to manipulate the trading price, and I'll be waiting for that video of you eating your sock.

I'll buy you a beer if you are in Amsterdam. Wink




I'm a market participant in one instance here yes I'm going with the crowd and trolling bullshit ala btc-e troll box!, Maidsafe and Mastercoin are manipulating the market. I think you'll be eating the sock somehow Wink
551  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: The Official Mastercoin Foundation, Master Protocol & Mastercoin Thread on: April 21, 2014, 05:45:25 PM
What's going on with the order book on https://www.masterxchange.com/market.php?

40 Bitcoins and the entire sell book just vanished!
It is because you are a moron and the automated trading system doesn't permit trades by morons.

You could try this: https://masterxchange.com/market.php?currency=msc

By tomorrow, the price will be exactly .2.  Otherwise, all MaidSafe buyers could realize a 'discount' by first purchasing 'cheap' (<.20) MSC and then buying MaidSafeCoins rather than using BTC to buy direct.  This assures a profit on all MSC that you buy today at .16 (or anything less than .20)  So go buy up!!!  

I expect the price to hold at precisely .2 during the entire sale (30 days).  This assumes the foundation lent plenty of MSC to MaidSafe.  If they didn't lend them enough, then the price will raise above .2





Well done brains I realized that 6 seconds after David made the post saying he was changing the price to .2 allowing me to buy up everything from about .8 to .14, Bizarely about 15 hours before any of the brain dead goons on this forum or in his company even noticed.... I probably had to make a public announcement to start the rally! You'll also have noticed (actually probably not because you've got the brains of a complete cunt) before that I'd started buying small amounts at .06 when they announced the price was being shifted along to .008..........

I don't understand, how is this helping you by posting all your trades? Whats up with calling everyone goons?
Why not just make your own thread? This hardly seems very relevant to core mastercoin talk. And in terms of pumping, making your own thread would work to fill the alt-coin section with more mastercoin, which is also a good thing. But this?

No it may help, can't say why.

Edit this is a self moderated topic that post can be deleted.
552  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: The Official Mastercoin Foundation, Master Protocol & Mastercoin Thread on: April 21, 2014, 05:09:28 PM
What's going on with the order book on https://www.masterxchange.com/market.php?

40 Bitcoins and the entire sell book just vanished!
It is because you are a moron and the automated trading system doesn't permit trades by morons.

You could try this: https://masterxchange.com/market.php?currency=msc

By tomorrow, the price will be exactly .2.  Otherwise, all MaidSafe buyers could realize a 'discount' by first purchasing 'cheap' (<.20) MSC and then buying MaidSafeCoins rather than using BTC to buy direct.  This assures a profit on all MSC that you buy today at .16 (or anything less than .20)  So go buy up!!!  

I expect the price to hold at precisely .2 during the entire sale (30 days).  This assumes the foundation lent plenty of MSC to MaidSafe.  If they didn't lend them enough, then the price will raise above .2





Well done brains I realized that 6 seconds after David made the post saying he was changing the price to .2 allowing me to buy up everything from about .8 to .14, Bizarely about 15 hours before any of the brain dead goons on this forum or in his company even noticed.... I probably had to make a public announcement to start the rally! You'll also have noticed (actually probably not because you've got the brains of a complete cunt) before that I'd started buying small amounts at .06 when they announced the price was being shifted along to .008.

If you look at my post history you'll notice I've pumped the idea of maidsafe (you'll say duh why u do dat it makes da price go up more expensive duh!)

And were I've created fear and despair (over ironic a sound and logical argument) and you're sayin duh! why u sell for duh!

You have to assume that on the internet every anonymous entity is acting in their own self interest, have a look on any troll box. To da moon means i'm fucking selling.

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553  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] Safecoin maidsafecoin on: April 21, 2014, 04:43:33 PM
Safecoin looks like a great thing, however, is anyone aware of a site that describes a) where there are in terms of coding, b) when they plan to roll stuff out? Is there any forum where the devs reply to questions?

I mean with a proposed valuation of ~ 10mm / 10% = 100mm USD, one would surely like to have some more info. Thanks.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/maidsafe-development, That valuations a bit unfair as the $90 million are only going into farmers pockets (people on the network that provide the disk space) over the next 10 years.
554  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: The Official Mastercoin Foundation, Master Protocol & Mastercoin Thread on: April 21, 2014, 04:06:21 PM
What's going on with the order book on https://www.masterxchange.com/market.php?

40 Bitcoins and the entire sell book just vanished!
555  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] Safecoin maidsafecoin on: April 21, 2014, 03:21:16 PM
WHY NOT IN A POS MODEL?

Because the enitre business model of Maidsafe (the business these tokens are being used in conjunction with) is based on the sharing of resources!! check out the website links!
556  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] Safecoin maidsafecoin on: April 21, 2014, 03:16:04 PM
As long as maidsafe don't agree with me that the whole thing makes no sense I may as well buy back in myself!
Holy shit!  You are a slow learner.  Did you want to give me an apology too?  ...now that you are back in. 

Listen, these MasterProtocol guys are REALLY careful and honest.  JR is about the most honest straightforward guy I 've met in Crypto.  He really cares to do things well.  Johnson is similarly a very straight shooter.  If you want to find a scam, don't bother looking here.  These guys are serious for the very long term.  They are building some complex shit.  Not perfect yet, but it will have some serious performance one day and today these smart properties are a little less than perfectly organized.  However, sham is not in their methodology. 



No why would I you're a fucking retard, only read first line can imagine the rest
557  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol, Client and Coin (built on Bitcoin) - Official on: April 21, 2014, 12:34:23 PM
are there any ideas for how to use XCP to exchange digital currencies for fiat? That would be truly exciting imo.

I think butterfly labs is in the process of making a modification for PC DVD drives to feed cash in.
558  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] Safecoin maidsafecoin on: April 20, 2014, 09:05:58 PM
Do you have something against an automated token generation mechanism that takes one token as input and spits out another token(s) in return?  That seems like a genuinely simple way to perform a Crowdsale of a new token, which is what we have implemented.

Craig


I'm not really hating, just trying to understand.  Just gotta use any opportunity to mention XCP, as I am one of the first burners, gotta root for the home team!

Ok, I get that the MSC is gonna be returned to the loaners.  I get that a MSC generates so many of an asset at a fixed rate.

What I am not understanding, is what happens to the MSC used to create MSAFE after it is sent off to the exodus address, and before the crowdsale ends and it is returned to the loaner?  Does the blockchain just give it a warm hug and hold onto it for a fixed period of time?

I'm asking, if I wanted to sell 1000 DRAGON DILDOS using the MSC protocol, I can create an asset called DRAGON DILDOS, set the rate at 1 MSC=1000 DRAGON DILDOS and limit the asset to a total of 1000 DRAGON DILDOS, send 1 MSC to the DRAGON DILDO exodus address, receive my 1000 DRAGON DILDOS, and then my 1 MSC...........take it from here, what happens to that 1 MSC after this point?  I guess I am asking where does the MSC go, how long is it there, who has it, and where does it eventually end up.

This is a serious question but I did abuse this opportunity to type DRAGON DILDOS in all caps as many times as I could.

In this example, you are the one holding the crowdsale.  You wish to sell 1000 DRAGON DILDOS for each 1 MSC you recieve in your crowdsale.  You’d announce these terms to the blockchain (using MP tx51) with those attriubtes.  A buyer would send 1MSC to the DILDOEXODUS address.  The buyer would receive 1000 DILDO and the Crowdsale address would receive 1 MSC. 

You get to keep that 1 MSC, since you’re the one who sold the DRAGON DILDOS.

Craig


Ahhhhhhhh........................ok, now I get it.  So yes, if this were just an excuse to just pump MSC, the maidsafe guys wouldn't allow use of BTC at all.  They hold the BTC donations, they get to use the loaned MSC to create MSAFE, and get the MSC returned to them so they can return it to the foundation.

Ok, this sounds alot less scammy now.  Maybe you MSC guys are okay after all.

Feeling really good I was able to scoop up a whole lot of MSC at 0.1 about 12 hours ago now!

As long as maidsafe don't agree with me that the whole thing makes no sense I may as well buy back in myself!
559  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol, Client and Coin (built on Bitcoin) - Official on: April 20, 2014, 08:55:53 PM
Chang, you're confused.  While there is no "cost" to issue a new asset on Mastercoin, Maidsafe has a set of rules (a protocol) they have worked with Mastercoin to create which defines how tokens will be distributed.  The rules of this token are built around fundraising, so value is what gets you the tokens.  They have to fix prices otherwise someone buying might get a better or worse price compared to someone buying later than they based on volatility, which punishes early purchasers. 

That is not desirable, so they picked a "fair value" that reflects the future value of the more volitile currency.  This is not such an unreasonable expectation, as Maidsafe is a prototypical (the first) usecase for Mastercoin, and should help people "get" why mastercoin offers value to them, which should push the price up beyond where Maidsafe valued it at once others follow suit.

It's not a conspiracy, it's a launch.  Mastercoin has the advantage of fundraising and prominent evangelists (mostly David Johnston), try not to be petty because we're all rowing in the same direction.  Just watch what they do and learn for when you're in the hot seat.

We're not on the same page here, you're not countering any of the points I'm making.
560  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol, Client and Coin (built on Bitcoin) - Official on: April 20, 2014, 07:42:07 PM
...

FYI: there is no fee required to issue assets via the Master protocol and this feature will go live in the next days.  Smiley

Cool so instead of paying a one off $1 you just have to buy most of the coins in existence, stripping the value out of every bitcoin raised by handing it over to mastercoin holders that sell into the staged and over inflated price? I'm interested how does this work when you need to fix the price of mastercoin for 2 fundraisers/token issuances or whatever at once?... doesn't matter I'm pretty sure this is the last.

Has the world gone mad totally mad or am I dreaming.  Huh

I think perhaps you've gone a little bit mad  Huh
or maybe I'm mad. I couldn't really catch what you are saying here

If there is no fee to issue asset via MSC, how does it enforce prevention of mass trolling or squatting?

I think you've confused two posts that are quoted together and you mean to direct that question at dexX7!!
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