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361  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: WILL CRYPTO BOOM AGAIN? on: December 12, 2019, 03:49:26 PM
That same thing happened when bitcoin peaked at 20k people never knew what was the exact reason for such a exponential growth and later it proved that it was just a bubble but yeah every time such abnormal growth happens, there is always a higher average than before for the rest of the year.

with BTC peak it was a mass hype fueled by literally everyone - even taxi drivers and celebrities in tv shows were speaking how great Bitcoin is, so then people with no knowledge got blind by greed and bought it on this price level just to sell it in panic within next year. These people are probably lost to cryptocurrencies but had given us a clear proof about 100% effective BTC long term investing strategy:

1) You see the hype - you sell/do not buy. Example - 2017 peak, or this year $14000 brief touch
2) You see the panic (and hear "Bitcoin is dead") and price is very low, you buy it and wait. Example - buying it in December 2018 when cryptodoomers were speaking about the death of cryptocurrencies and crypto nuclear winter 
exactly , things become more makes no sense when it comes to crypto invesment , it seems everybody thesedays have the same vision get involved in crypto , yes they all want to make money quickly , no proccess in it , just put the money for a couple weeks or months and then see the value exploded 2 times , 5 times 20 times even 100 times, they are all go full delusional.

i want to see the ATH , you want to see the ATH , everybody does.

but guess what? none of them taking any action. the market should go up if everybody does really put their money in crypto at the same time span. but as you can see, nothing significant changes , the market even more get drop in the last few days, why? the only one who making actions , making moves are those big whales.
362  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: December 12, 2019, 11:08:32 AM
-snip-
will manchester city get another shock result to lost against arsenal? or arsenal will get hammered by manchester city as the players maybe get tired of the tight fixtures?
Since 2018 Arsenal have never won against Manchester City despite competing at home to Arsenal, and looking at Arsenal's current conditions I think the best results that Arsenal can achieve are only draws against Manchester City.

source: https://www.fctables.com/h2h/arsenal/manchester-city/
besides the head to head statistics, the whole world knows that was not football the thing that arsenal currently doing  Cheesy that was completely a mess during the last 10 years , i don't know what is inside arsenal boards mind doing business in arsenal  Roll Eyes.

asian ahndicap of -2.5 must be so good isn't it? the fact that manchester city far more superior thesedays even though they play away at emirates .
by the way #ljungbergout has exist since the 1st day he at the office , what could possibly worse than that? but at least there is a hope with ancelotti get sacked by napoli , he is a wanted man especially for aarsenal.

jokes all around arsenal
363  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Will take brake on: December 12, 2019, 10:39:57 AM
let alone people switching off bitcoin to altcoins.

the real HODLer will keep bitcoin forever until the doomsday come. i know everybody is waiting for the moment altcoin to bouncing back to skyrocketing , will that moment really come in the near future? i think this is just a pure baseless speculation.
that the altcoins season is coming ,

but yes once again cryptocurrency market habit always wild , there is no expert can make any kind very percise calculations.
this is all pure speculation and people loves to do it the entire time.
364  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: December 12, 2019, 10:11:47 AM
I would say Southampton may not win against west hamn, I see west ham beating Southampton 1-0 instead, that would make more sense to me, Southampton failed to recover from that horrible loss few weeks ago and they are still one of the bottom of the rank teams.

Tottenham could win against wolves as well, I see that game going to spurs most probably, I am not saying any of these will definitely happen but I am 90% sure spurs might win that game. Last but not least I think Aston Villa- Sheffield United game may not have 4 goals, now they are both not good teams so scoring is harder for them but they are both playing against other bad team so they may score as well, I feel like 1-1 or even 0-0 is more likely outcome for that game, I fail to see which one could win as well.
but the game itself will be extra for both , the one who lost in this game will be in danger situation to get drown to the bottom three relegation which means i can guess that both teams will scored , 2-1 or 1-2 i honestly can not choose which one. the game even could ended draw like 1-1 , i have no idea when it comes to a game like this , a game between two loser.

by the way arsenal will play against manchester city this weekend and they have to play at europa league tonight.
arsenal should not lost in europa league toninght as there a chance for arsenal to not qualified , tough schedule.

will manchester city get another shock result to lost against arsenal? or arsenal will get hammered by manchester city as the players maybe get tired of the tight fixtures?
365  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com SPORTS BETTING NOW LIVE! 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 on: December 12, 2019, 09:48:55 AM
by the way , does anybody noticed that the stake sportsbetting lines is a little bit poor compared to any other bitcooin sportsbook? i know stake is new in this industry but hey there always a room for improvement right?
Its quite obvious to people like me who regularly gamble on sportsbooks like Pinnacle where the odds are way better. At the moment, Stake sportsbook is alright, but needs to improve their odds by reducing their margins.

Also, the lag needs to decrease too while placing multi-bets. The biggest advantage I found with this sportsbook is the ability to bet with just 100 satoshis.
that is what i mean  Cheesy , let's see how they will go maintain the service in the coming years.

100 satoshi even lower! if you bet with altcoins like ripple or tron , i do noticed laggy about when you placed a multi-bets i thought it was just my browser that has too much cookies in it, have not clear it though.



Pretty insane multi-leg bet right now on stake! The most sure bet of GS over Knicks is now this bettor's biggest hurdle but this player is letting it ride and just 2 games shy of 17.5BTC!

https://stake.com/sports?iid=sport%3A107907&modal=sportBet  


EDIT: 3/4 have been hit!! Now this punter is 1 game away from winning 17.5BTC

too bad , the bet must be settled as lost by now . GSW lost at the ET. one more 3 points for GSW and this bet pays you $120k!
who the heck doing this crazy multi-bets thesedays? and included GSW to win where everybody knows that they are sucks this season without curry and thompson. that was an interesting match between losers of the season though.
366  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com SPORTS BETTING NOW LIVE! 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 on: December 11, 2019, 02:58:47 PM
Meanwhile I won a good number of free rolls(45) on slots again:
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the sad thing is when you play with free rolls or a little amount bet only , this game always gives you a good unbelievable multiplier but once you try with bigger amount bet everything seems very clear different with the last one on free rolls or a little be one  Tongue you will get a non sense losing streaks even to not get a single win  Cheesy at this point i always thinking that well yeah you are born to lose in gambling that is okay , that is okay.

nice multiplier over there even though it was not decent winning.
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It wasn't one of my smallest bets actually. I always play only with small amounts, so it was one of my highest bets. In that particular case I started from 0.00001024 XRP, and was doubling my bet after 1-5 rolls, randomly, sometimes going back to smaller bets. It was one of the longest streaks without 3 scatters I can remember, probably over a hundred rolls, and then I finally hit 3 scatters, and then hit them twice within the free rolls. For me personally, 17 XRP (or 0.00052 BTC) is a nice win. Smiley
of course that was a nice win considering it gave you 100x  Shocked

maybe for some people spending 0.00001024 XRP to gamble is more likely wasting time , but considering you are get used to gamble with small amount only, i guess you are not looking for profit since the beginning ? at all? for fun i knew it.
$10 or $100 winning , i can consider it as a winning that was not wasting time at all  Cheesy .

17 XRP around $5 right? what happened to your 17 XRP now? don't tell me you busted all already.

Last season's Semi Finalists and the current Serie A leaders are OUT!

I guess these odds are set to change...

Who's your pick from here? ⚽ #stake #ChampionsLeague

https://twitter.com/Stake/status/1200006476162650112

it is just weird to see manchester city favorited to win the champions league , liverpool at second and barcelona third .
i pick real madrid with odds at 13 , that is really high odds for the los blancos.
367  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling for increasing and decreasing money on: December 11, 2019, 10:00:14 AM
1. If you have a lot of money, go gambling to reduce them.

What kind of idea is this? Are you trolling here?

When is it became necessary to throw away money just because we have lots of it?

Didn't you know that the more money we have, the more we are careful in spending since we know how difficult it is to earn that kind of amount?

I got what you are pointing at. It's just that there is part of your statement that isn't constructed properly.
lol

i think he just finished watch the mr robot movie latest episode.
yes elliot successfully redistribute wealth through hacking multi-billion dollars mafia , and op has a brilliant idea to redistribute the money through gambling  Cheesy this is hillarious dude , you should not have a lot of money , reduce it by gambling so the mission of redistribute wealth could be realized anytime soon , i vote op for the president, never crossed in our minds to do this right? give this man a noble please.

this whole topic is useless, let's stop here.
and help me to report this one to be locked .

if you have no idea what to report , use this : moderators, please lock the thread, it is spammy thread with zero value discussion
368  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com SPORTS BETTING NOW LIVE! 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 on: December 11, 2019, 09:04:12 AM


Meanwhile I won a good number of free rolls(45) on slots again:



Love this game! Smiley


the sad thing is when you play with free rolls or a little amount bet only , this game always gives you a good unbelievable multiplier but once you try with bigger amount bet everything seems very clear different with the last one on free rolls or a little be one  Tongue you will get a non sense losing streaks even to not get a single win  Cheesy at this point i always thinking that well yeah you are born to lose in gambling that is okay , that is okay.

nice multiplier over there even though it was not decent winning.

by the way , does anybody noticed that the stake sportsbetting lines is a little bit poor compared to any other bitcooin sportsbook? i know stake is new in this industry but hey there always a room for improvement right?
369  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin could be 6000$ soon give us your opinion on: December 11, 2019, 08:26:24 AM
Looks very manipulated really.

What's not manipulated? People don't complain if the price is manipulated to 20k, I don't see why they should complain if it's manipulated to 6k. If anything, we should be probably really grateful to have these extended sales period. I know I am. Every month we stay below good price levels is an extra month to get bargain price. And, a better chance for price to sustain at much higher levels, much longer, once that ATH gives way (and it will).
that is true , people seems losing their logic when it comes to making money in greedy way. bitcoin investment for instance , people drown in euphoria when good things occured despite the fact there is a huge manipulation going on but then start panic to blame everybody and everything on what happened to you when losing certain amount of money because of the bad thing that hits you, such a toxic attitude.

grow up and educate yourself , upgrade yourself everyday regarding the crypto and market itself.

everything so far pretty much organic , your psychology are not ready to accept crypto nature that most of the times and even all the time are volatile.
370  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread on: December 11, 2019, 07:32:18 AM
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Yeah it's like messi himself is 50% of the Barcelona as a club , no wonder bookies give that much to the market.
I still confident that inter milan won't go qualified easily, it's a 50/50 chance for me . Barcelona get draw or win it with 1 goal difference like 1-2 or 2-3 ... or intermilan win it in struggle and some lucky factors like 1-0 and defending at the rest of the game.

Inter milan urgently need this winning and that's could be a boomerang for them.

To play under pressure like that could bring chaos at the back as they focusing on attack, unless they found an early goal. I've seen how conte playing style works since he was in Juventus and spent 2 years at chelsea.


Yeah, it may all work fine for Barcelona. Barca plays entirely different football in the absence of Messi, players take more initiative and midfield try to open defensive line rather than giving ball to Messi outside the box and hope he will take that to penalty area.
As far as I remember, Messi was unable to play 2 champions league games last season, both of those were also against Inter Milan. But players like Dembele, Coutinho and Rafinha took charge and played pretty well. And how can we forget 5-1 against Real Madrid. Players click better together when Messi doesn't play. However, that doesn't mean Barca is stronger without Messi. His presence alone is enough to win games for Barca.

It doesn't really change since few years ago indeed when the game feels like all about messi , everyone seems thinking the same thing to pass to messi and he will get the job done as usual, pretty ironic to see this eventhough nobody can deny that messi is the GOAT - alongside cristiano  Cheesy - football should not played like that , i pretty enjoyed the game when the trio MSN exist , they did oustanding chemistry , produced lots of goals and mostly get done with a beauty in the proccess.

it just happened , inter milan who badly need the winning ended suffering lost to barcelona -reserve- team.

as i have warned this before, this is a boomerang for inter milan.
anybody else happy with the barcelona winning? i am sure inter milan fans pissed off with this result  Cheesy
371  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread on: December 10, 2019, 03:02:40 PM
Group H
Chelsea will win against Lille OSC and this must really win for Chelsea if they want to qualify for the next round. Score (2-1)

Group F
Borussia Dortmund vs Slavia Prague (3-1)
Dortmund has a great chance to win the match before being able to draw against Barcelona and beat Inter Milan.

Inter v Barcelona (2-1)
I believe Inter Milan will win because this is life and death for Inter Milan at UCL.
That could be a trap, instead get a desired winning chelsea could receive the unexpected and unacceptable loss. the must winning match always full of surpises , beware on this match it looks really easy but it is not, despite i choose chelsea to win.
dortmund , they fight for nothing if the match result between inter milan and barcelona ended with inter milan victory but still they have to win this match against slavia prague which is not easy , they are the real underdog among the underdogs! just in case inter milan get draw or lost so they can get through the next round.

my correct score prediction? chelsea 3-2 lille should be an intense match
dortmund 1-0 slavia prague
inter milan 0-1 barcelona

can somebody calculate how much the odds for my correct score prediction above?  Cheesy
372  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The fight against Bitcoin is coming. Are we ready?! on: December 10, 2019, 01:53:56 PM
Yesterday people were hyping Bakkt's CEO appointment as a senator and the Crypto Mom's participation in some conference, but today some nocoiner gets into position of power and it's suddenly the end of the world. Can we just stop overreacting to insignificant events like this one? I understand that we are currently in a boring period, when the price doesn't move much and no big news happens, but this doesn't mean that we should look at every single event through a "this is good/bad for Bitcoin" prism - they really don't mean much in the grand scheme of things.
Not surprising at all , psychology war happening now.

one trying to heads people up in optimistic way to believe that there is a glimmer of hope with the Bakkt's CEO appointment and the other one that is bring an opinion to public that something bad going to happen , this is clearly a conflict interest.

what would you choose? of course you don't have to choose in between them.
this is normal when an upcoming big event getting closer there is a lot of FUD spread everywhere , remember this : further gains are imminent for bitcoin there is no other way to deny that bitcoin halving day will deflect to market drop instead a crazy gains.
of course i am ready to see my bitcoin value gained instead caring about a garbage news that drag bitcoin market to drop like this.
373  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How Much Money You Need To Win To Stop gambling, Is This Possible. on: December 10, 2019, 01:10:42 PM
Put me in The Top 100 Forbes World's Billionaires list, i promise in the name of my 5th wife i will stop immediately.
yes at least give me a total winning of 1 billion dollar in my bank account.

this is of course totally a bullshit , especially once you diagnosed has been addicted to gamble since the day you start gambling.

you can make a promise now or then , but one thing you have to keep in mind , if you did not fix the psychology problem in each of gambler mindset that you can never stop gambling no matter you have 1 billion , 10 billion or 100 billion in your hands you will ask for more.
the only way to stop it is by spend money as much as possible to cure your gambling habit. as once you play to gamble you are addicted automatically. at least that is what i believe, that is my opinion.
374  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider gambling to be a "fun activity"? on: December 10, 2019, 12:23:50 PM
A lot of emotions, a lot of up and a lot of down but it's all fun...

As long as you play with money that you can afford to lose. Same rules apply with any investment, of course including Bitcoin and alt coins  Smiley
Guess what make all of these much more fun?

you won at 2x and get additional profits as you are betting with altcoins that the value where your betslip settled increased drastically upto 100percents so basically you just hit a jackpot of 3times instead won it at 2 times haha
but you must admit that it was fun until you get hit but the unexpected big losses or a streak losses.
that will messed all of your fun moments in a second, in a blink of an eye.

start with some fun and always ends it with misery , that is the eternal law of gambling, you can not go against them unless you are lucky enough to be part of the rare 0.1% who make it fun all the time.
375  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🚀 Sportsbet.io - Main Club Partner of Watford FC ⚽ Fun. 🏀 Fast. 🎾 Fair. 🏆 on: December 09, 2019, 10:33:51 PM
That is massive prize worth more than 1 bitcoin dude  Shocked

what about 14 goals?
i think nobody pick it yet , hope for most of the games ended by 1-0 and 0-0 .
statistically per 8 games in champions league there are around 28 goals scored but let's cut it half now.

goodluck everyone  Wink
376  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 09, 2019, 04:45:51 PM
Werder vs Paderborn will be my main play today - I expect hosts to win with over 2.5 - my bet will be 1 & over2.5. Paderborn is capable of scoring, Werder at home no question about it - thoughts?

I can say that I will follow you on that bet, my luck on yesterday’s Bundes bet wasn’t on my side, so today I’m kind of out of ideas   Roll Eyes

Lets rock! =) I am kind of confident...  Cool Yeah, this is sports and anything can happen but in my opinion this is a great matchup for goals.  Wink

I played the 1&both to score, my correct score prediction here is 2:1 or 3:1
Good luck to us Smiley
I know how Bundesliga always entertain us with the high scoring goals every week , they are one of the most productive league compared to others that is why the unde over market always give us a really bad odds , also if you pay attention that the both teams to score mostly stand at around 1.6 even below at 1.5 most of the times , but yes you need to admit that was not your lucky match , the match ended with only 1 goal scored and the worst one is that bremen lost at their own home 0-1 , tragic.

i see there is unusual bundesliga standing there  Shocked Shocked Shocked
Bayern munchen has lost out of 14 matches , they used to lost 4 in the entire season what is wrong with them Huh
377  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Nearly $10 billion worth of BTC moved in just 15 minutes? on: December 09, 2019, 04:09:28 PM
I also assumed it was an exchange or another sort of company changing wallets to ensure the security or something like that, but since you're claiming it's Bittrex, proof would be nice. Anyway, I've googled it and I think I've found it, so I'm attaching it here: https://cointelegraph.com/news/almost-9-billion-of-bitcoin-moved-on-chain-in-1-hour-record.
I don't think that whale alert makes sense, most of the time it turns out to be a technical operation... I don't even believe that there are 'whales' that can manipulate the market significantly, it's just a chain reaction with separate entities most of the time we see the price changing.
I'd be scared if it was a personal holding  Shocked $10 billion it must be corporate funds. satoshi himself own 1 million bitcoin worth 7.523.610.000 around 7.5 billion , who else holding more than 1 million bitcoin? i don't think anybody does have it in their personal wallet.
this is just an ordinary funds transfer , end of story.
some people taking advantage on this by linking to how the fund prepared for market dump, that is just random.
It definitely can't be a personal holding but the topic used by the OP is misleading cause after i go through the transaction and the Bitcoin sent to the address mentioned was ~ $414Million not $10Billion. However, the coins could belong to the exchange in subject .
That is what i mean , this kind sentiment always been exaggerated.

when the original article says it was $414million approx but then someone quoted it in the wrong way -intentionally or not that will not make any difference- as the sentiment like this very easy to spread mouth by mouth.
and guess what next happened? let the chaos begin, the FUD start to pop up in the main discussion.

yeah sometimes this used for making FUD, often. i get used to this and pretty simple to deal with it, ignore any of these news & speculations .
it has zero value but an entertainment to see that outstanding numbers being discussed.
378  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread on: December 09, 2019, 03:42:44 PM
Last match of champions league group stage will come tomorrow and here is the match ,

Group E
Red Bull Salzburg vs Liverpool

Napoli vs KRC Genk

Group G
SL Benfica vs Zenit St. Petersburg

Olympique Lyonnais vs RB Leipzig

Group H
Chelsea vs Lille OSC

Ajax vs Valencia

Group F
Borussia Dortmund vs Slavia Praha

Inter vs Barcelona

that is my prediction, what do you think?
379  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Sale my old bike and buy bitcoin, what do you think? on: December 09, 2019, 10:51:26 AM
An old bike? seriously? put some more effort dude!

a kidney could worth up to 1 million dollar, pull off that kidney from your body and convert it to bitcoins, that is what i called as a real effort haha you can get up to 130 bitcoin with a single kidney sold to the needy.
Where can it be, so I can do it right away. LOL. In our country, a kidney will only worth $5-10k USD if converted to USD.   Undecided Undecided

on a serious note , taking risk by selling stuff -a non necessary- stuff that is better choice rather than letting your stuff stay there losing value , you can switch it of to a productive , progressive one like bitcoin investment.

there is no harm to do it, as long as not something you are using it urgently in your daily life like a house.
it could be a high risk , you can not afford to lose it and i think that is a bad choice.
It's true, it would be better to have an investment where you can see it grow than an asset that is decreasing its value over time. Though a bike is an asset where you can use anytime as a mean of transportation.


Of course it has a very low value if you sell it in africa , they better to have a piece of cake rather than buying kidney  Cheesy

just walk around hospital in europe and ask them that you are going to sell some organs in cheap price , they will give you a warm welcome and maybe a bottle of wine talking the proccess in the glamour candle light dinner as if it was your last day in earth haha
seriously if you are crazy enough to sell organs do it convert to bitcoin wait for the price to go up and buy back the organ you have sold .

of course this is not an advice at all , ridiculous to sell an important thing in your life for the sake of money, health come first.

DON'T do SELLING your ORGANS ok? Cheesy

You cannot laugh at investments like these, in the past we saw some investors selling their house and going full on bitcoin a few years back and everyone laughed at them and he made a fortune by the way he took risk and invested in bitcoin when the price was really low, right now the price is not that low to sell my car or a house and go full in and i am not interested to take that kind of risk but if people are willing so be it and we might see these investments as high risk now but who knows what the price would be ten years later.
NO idont.
i appreciate what he has done by taking that risk. this is always about risk. go allin or die wondering .
380  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: December 09, 2019, 10:17:19 AM
I don’t think Leicester will be a threat to the Liverpool race to the title.I think Liverpool will be the Champion of the Premier League this year.
Anything still can change, in a matter of a month or within a couple weeks liverpool could fall down as currently leicester only 8 points behind means a 3 times losing or 4 draw could make liverpool in trouble jus like in the last previous seasons, it had happened and you can not say this time will not be the same unless if you are a liverpool fans  Cheesy .

the odds for leicester city to win the league decreased day by day it is now at 14/1 , at the first epl match the odds was at 500/1.

pretty much shows how leicester is the nearest threat for liverpool at this point as manchester city and chelsea both in the bad situation recently at the same time , this premier league edition a little bit weird, it could become more weird if liverpool win it hehe .
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