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61  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: November 28, 2020, 08:53:36 AM
Bayern Munich have messed up their last home game as they could not beat Werder Bremen and the match ended up with a draw. Stuttgart is another team which have a high number of draws result in the Bundesliga league at the moment, and Bayern Munich will need to play Stuttgart away from their home stadium today. I think this will be a close and competitive match between these two teams today with Bayern Munich winning this game by a slim goal margin at the final whistle.
Yes stuttgart have 5 draw so far, it is the most in the league.
Despite the bad result in the last bundesliga match i think bayern will destroy stuttgart with atleast 2 winning goals margin.
You know what? The head to head say it all, bayern munich often win with 4-1 or 3-1.
But the point is that both teams to score seems is a sure thing.
62  Economy / Economics / Re: 2020-2021 best year if You Want to become rich no skills needed on: November 28, 2020, 06:45:02 AM
Please do not take loans and invest into Crypto, this bull rn cans stop or pop anytime, we saw what happens in 2018. If you don't have any skill get a job, I believe there are jobs you can still get and will train you on how to go about things, the risk of investing into Crypto is high enough not to talk or taken loans to invest into it. You can see things you have and invest into Bitcoin that is your property but taking loan should be discouraged

Taking a bank loan to invest in crypto is reckless without planning.  It would be like an act of luck testing without hedging being performed.  If you put eggs in one container, it will be a boomerang for you.  You are legitimate if borrowing money for more productive activities is not just an act of trial and error.  The crypto market still carries a very high risk, right now it is in hype, but if one hit collapses then you also ruin your real life.
Goodluck if you do this .
50/50 chance actually, especially if you patient enough , taking loan is not really bad idea at all.
You need to have a plan , multiple plan indeed not a single plan that could make you in bankruptcy .
I mean you should never cash the profit out if the whole fund is not sufficient to cover the interest, wait until it is completely cover it all.
If you dont take any risk during this pandemic which yes become an opportunity to make money through crypto investment , you will not find the time like this anymore in the future.
63  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Stake or nitrogen my point of view on: November 28, 2020, 05:45:52 AM
This is a well known fact. Stake is developed in such cases a way to attract all levels of gamblers. Nitrogen is good for the sports betting where you get access to pay with cryptocurrencies and other means of payment. Stake provides good rakeback for the high rollers which is something very impressive. Stake is developed after the popular primedice, which means they've well known and understood the user requirements and developed stake.com

I remember primedice, it was the first crypto dice site that I played with. And really impressive that they sustain their presence in the crypto market, where most of its contemporaries exited when btc took a downward tun. So with their long experience in the gambling industry, they really do know how to keep their players happy and they applied it to stake as well. Not a high roller, so didn't experience most of what the OP described. But it is a good insight coming from a high roller's perspectives.
I know Stakes or even Nitrogen is doing hard to satisfy their players and so they will coming back again and again.
Well, I know that we all have different preferences in terms of gambling experience and we choose those site that we feel and think that safeguard us. Some also had a bad experience to any of them makes them think about leaving and finding a new one better and maybe that OP has that kind of experience.
Stake for me has the best customer service, they treat players like a king that you can ask anything to them and they will get back to you very soon.
While nitrogen is sucks in managing its customer , a little bit rude and i believe a lot of people have run away from their site.
I love how nitrogen provides a good price in the line as i often see stake cannot compete about this one, poor odds at stake.
And isnt it nitrogen has several unsolved scam report here?
64  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Altcoins price pump influence bitcoin price Negatively ? on: November 28, 2020, 05:12:07 AM
I have the impression that every-time bitcoin starts climbing steadily, the XRP pumps like crazy 100%+ within 24h, causing doubt in the entire market!
Are altcoins like stellar and xrp harming the bitcoin price by their manipulated pumps ?
Well we are translating the situation differently.
Some people says that those people with large amount of money has decided to cash their bitcoin out into fiat and put some of the profit in altcoins.
So this is the reason altcoins pumped recently for some people.
And here you are talking about another perspective which got me thinking it could be true given the fact that ripple well known centralized and sucks.
65  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2020/2021 on: November 28, 2020, 04:55:17 AM
Chelsea - Tottenham is really a tough one to call, both teams have looked good recently and are in form. As far as I know, they also do not have any major problems with injuries or unavailable players.

I'm leaning towards Mourinho here - he's more experienced than Lampard and Son - Kane partnership is looking great this season. Chelsea's attack has not clicked yet, although both Werner and Havertz can decide the game with individual quality.
We do not determine who is an experienced coach. Lampard also has a good record in being a coach at this time, now both teams are in good form but here I am sure with Chelsea playing at home will not reduce their enthusiasm for winning I believe Werner can score goals for. the victory might be said to be difficult but for sure in this match it will be more interesting where I prefer Chelsea.

Definitely Mourinho is an excellent coach and he has more experience in relation to lampard, but in a football game the coach is not enough, there are other factors that can affect the result of the game. for this game chelsea is being given as a favorite



Crystal Palace  - Newcastle

I will wait for the first few minutes to see if I place a bet because this is a very unpredictable game
Chelsea become favorite against tottenham is strange for me , tottenham are on top of the table , they are also unbeaten since lost to and currently stand on 8 games unbeaten in the league since the last time they lost in premier league against everton 2 months ago.
They are also the least team to concede, 9 goals conceded out of 9 games played , amazing stats, yet bookmakers put chelsea as a favorite.
This is a little bit tricky, will chelsea beat tottenham? I am not sure to be honest.
66  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Climbs Above $19,000 – Heading to New All-Time High? on: November 27, 2020, 10:44:31 PM
I frequent the BitcoinMarkets on reddit and about a week ago I posted that since everybody is so bullish and 100% sure that BTC will go to ATH and then head to like $25K or $50K or $300K, then most likely the opposite will happen. It will go close to $20K, but not too close and it will start to reverse. Which is pretty much what happened and guess what? My post was voted down because they called me a bitcoin bear.

One guy I think had like 1 BTC and he was saying he wasn't going to sell it until he could buy a house with it. When you read comments like that it should be a warning that there is way too much bullish sentiment and can get ugly fast, which is what happened. Way too many over leveraged longs and we went from $19500 to low $16K in a very short while.

Very well said, that's the real point, actually it's okay to be bullish as long as we aim for long term as most likely we will hit a new ATH after every ATH. To think that we can buy a house and lot with $1 btc, that's similar to saying that bitcoin will go to the moon once again, which is a no for me since it will only create some hype and then FOMO happens, but this time, the smart ones knows how to cash out in short term, so they won.
It is like a house edge to me lol
When you have lost 5 times and chasing your bet with 5x but before it hits 5x busted at 4x.
Well here people think bitcoin will go above 20000 usd easily after the surge move doubled from 9500 usd to 19000 usd .
But guess what , before it hits above 20000 usd , suddenly there is quite huge drop to nearly 16000 usd in just a couple days.
Those people who cashing out at the highest , knows how to run and deal with the market.
67  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: November 27, 2020, 10:19:47 PM
Maybe not big related news but Napoli according to several Italian media is changing the name of their stadium from "San Paolo" to something related to Diego Maradona.

Cristiano Ronaldo has not been called for the game for Juventus with Benevento  Angry
Yes in honor to the eternal legend diego armando maradona , they are planning to do it.
The fans fully supporting this plan and there is no better way to remembering his legacy .
And yes i heard pirlo looking to rest cristiano not for other reasons, fair enough.

tomorrow the most interesting match will certainly be Sassuolo-Inter.
Sassuolo's odd is very high, 4.5, it's very strange because Sassuolo is second in the standings and is playing very well, while Inter is in a difficult period and needs to save energy for Tuesday's Champions League challenge
Sassuolo is unbeaten for 8 matches with 5 win 3 draw.
Maybe this time inter will break that sweet record, the reason sassuolo moneyline is so high it is because of the match will probably either won by inter or a draw.
Important match for inter to stay on the top 3 f the table, they have to get 3 points.
68  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🚀 Sportsbet.io - Official betting partner of ARSENAL FC 🚀 on: November 27, 2020, 09:51:44 PM
So Nobody get 100mbtc dropped to forum member?
And how about the 1 btc , was it claimed steve?
I did not make it to stay online for 8 hours consecutively, i did only stay for the first 4 hours Sad , wonder was it dropped to my account but not claimed?

Another day, another chance to go for! Hope someone got something here, or hope the winners today convert to bitcointalk users as well;) But today was super was fun, nevertheless, and I still got me free betbuilders waiting to hit;)

Newcastle for the win people! To set me off on this week's MMasters, oh and Wolfsburg to set us off on MMagic;)

GL all!
You know what? I was writing that newcastle seems get the draw at the 85' but they scored two goals in two minutes at 88' and 89'. Madness
69  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof on: November 27, 2020, 02:25:51 PM
Leave satoshi alone!
If he willing to reveal about himself he will do it through the easiest way and undeniable.
The above proof clearly insuficient.

What if he specifically changed his working schedule just to fake his timezone?
What if he used the British news specifically to make us believe he's British?
What if someone else actually wrote all those posts instead of him, and he was just the mastermind behind them?


It's all a mystery. He created it, he launched it, he wanted his privacy. Let us give at least that much back to him as a reward.

I agree..., this will then conclude that everything in that article is an assumption.  It is not 100% correct nor considered as a fact since, Satoshi wanting to hide his identity will surely use methods that will conceal his timezone, place, and probably even his Machine hardware ID.

The title of the article is way more convincing than the proof laid out on its body.
People never tired digging/creating stories when it comes to breaking this satoshi mystery.
That is what makes satoshi special and bitcoin itself as a revolutional invention.
I am not convinced at all with this story.
70  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Poker Site Buys $100 Million of Bitcoin Every Month to Pay Players in BTC on: November 27, 2020, 02:03:58 PM
Never eared about this poker network ever.
Created in 2019, no testimonial players. Never seen in an Event.

This will be a thing when Pokerstars or someone else like Partypoker/888 will do the same thing, these networks.


The poker rooms UI reminds me a lot of the dead FullTiltPoker..  Grin
That is gonna be the end of the world lol
Pokerstars had a very large community and i personally cannot imagine if this happened, i mean the demand will explode and push the price even higher.
They are accepting bitcoin via netteler so far , but it is a dream to see pokerstars jump into the crypto business. Make it happen someone please.
Could be 10 billion, 100 billion worth of bitcoin monthly to pay its player at pokerstars.
71  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🚀 Sportsbet.io - Official betting partner of ARSENAL FC 🚀 on: November 27, 2020, 10:44:15 AM
And surprised that the multi master still running but now with flat odds at 1.01? Bitcoin price getting high alright that is reasonable.
By the way Is it okay if i make a comeback just for the black friday drop and chasing for the multi master?
It is not illegal right? :p
I guess they made it 1.01 just to make it more harder so that we don't have to rely on the odds.

The only requirement for the black friday drop is to have a deposit so you're always welcome to come back just for the promo.

I thought it was an error lol so it is 1.01 for all of the multi master event now right?
So I am qualified for the black friday drop , nice promo, i am sure this doesnt exist anywhere else.
Let's say i get the drop, I will share some of my 100mbtc to the first 10 people who tagged himself in this post as merit, is this illegal ? :p i hope not.
72  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread on: November 27, 2020, 09:29:48 AM
and I have also added Villareal to win in the mix as well.
and of course Villareal shit the bet, AND my main ticket with AC Milan also lost 😔 but my hedge won!
I managed to cash out my ticket for minimal profit around 75th minute since my other games on it had already passed. I would have kicked myself if Yellow Submarine managed to win it in the end. Then I played another ticket for everything I had and it passed so I am very happy with how the day ended.



If Sociedad won and Spurs conceded one goal my super multi of 12 games with winnings of over 1BTC would have passed as well and then it would have been unforgettable day Smiley
Nice picks but unfortunately tottenham get a cleansheet and real sociedad get a draw.
Have 4 selections on multibet is indeed the best option as per my experience i was once put 5 selections with 4 tickets and guess what, all of those 4 tickets lost only to 1 selection.
That is sucks and it is really often happened to me and since then i realized havimg 5 selections is a curse for me lol.
Glad that ac milan vs lille ended with both teams to score, that was the only match that i confident on.
73  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin bullrun and correction period on: November 27, 2020, 09:10:49 AM
The market correction of bitcoin along with the entire cryptocurrency has begun. In a days time the market has faced a very big drop in the value. Right now everyone were with the expectation of market reaching its new ath value. Right now Whales will tend to make a big buy targeting to bump the price in a short and profit out of it.
Looks like we are in a phase of eliminating the doubters.
Everybody thinks that we will easily break and stay above 20000 usd but the market rejects it now.
What is the next move? This is the biggest question right now and everybody wondering , the fact that nobody can predict correctly this situation we are making speculation at this point as when the price bounce back after this correction , you wont regret  got some more bitcoin when the price tripled later.


One of the things that I like a lot is being able to enter the forum and see these types of discussions, because each person sees the market in a different way, I see it differently, some things I share and others I study, it is mere speculation, but It happens as you affirm, what comes next? Could it be that they are correcting to catch the bullish momentum? Is it that investors are taking advantage of quickly buying some alts to shelter their money from a possible much higher bullish trend until they exceed $ 20k? Emotions are running high. I think the market should correct, it should be, but as everything is going, I think it will continue to rise.
That is the forum function.
It helps a lot when it comes to enrich your knowledge with various point of view.
So whenever you are ready to make any decision in this speculation section , you have a lot of option already in your pocket, whether to watch and see , go buy immediately or sell some, make sure you are not trusting something like this for 100%, take it as alternatives and you will be fine.
Considering the altcoins mostly get pumped , i am pretty sure people allocate some of their assets in altcoin , that is pretty makes sense with the bitcoin slight drop since yesterday.
74  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: November 27, 2020, 07:56:20 AM
I even heard a rumor that dele alli set to move for manchester united a long with pochettino~
If that news is true, it will become a bad news for Tottenham Hotspur. AFAIK, Dele Alli is one of the player who has a big role in the middle field of Tottenham. I don't see any other players who can replace his position there. I will be a big lose for Tottenham if he really leaves the club to Man. United. I think Tottenham president and all management must prevent his move by offering something to make him stays. 

Are you even following tottenham situation recently?
Dele alli position has been replaced by ndombele and or lo celso at least in the last couple matches where they superbly defend the unbeaten record until today.
The rumor come up after this situation and given the fact that tottenham under mourinho without dele alli  looks even like a better team, he is rumored to be allowed to leave.
Bit yes if he choose a loyalty to tottenham and stay , he should worm harder and get his place back which it is doubted.
75  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Betnomi – Top Leagues Predictor – 1 BTC main prize - 2nd edition on: November 27, 2020, 07:40:59 AM

1.  Everton FC vs. Leeds United   - x
2.  West Bromwich Albion vs. Sheffield United FC - x
3.  Southampton FC vs. Manchester United FC - 2
4.  Chelsea FC vs. Tottenham Hotspur FC - 2
5.  Arsenal FC vs. Wolverhampton Wanderers FC -  1
6.  Valencia CF vs. Atletico Madrid - x
7.  SD Huesca vs. Sevilla FC - 2
8.  Getafe CF vs. Athletic Bilbao - x
9.  Real Sociedad vs. Villarreal CF -1
10. Union Berlin vs. Eintracht Frankfurt - x
11. FSV Mainz vs. TSG Hoffenheim - 1
12. Sassuolo Calcio vs. Inter Milano - 1
13. AC Milan vs. ACF Fiorentina - 1
14. SC Napoli vs. AS Roma - 1
15. Olympique Marseille vs. FC Nantes -   2

Betnomi username: daarul50
76  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🚀 Sportsbet.io - Official betting partner of ARSENAL FC 🚀 on: November 26, 2020, 11:39:11 PM
All about that Black Friday BTC drop, everybody who has a sportsbet.io account get ready for your chance to claim free BTC. Trust me, if it lands in my account it will be claimed.

Your boy LFC_Bitcoin won’t get caught slippin’

 Tongue
Trust me i forgot about my sportsbet.io account lol
Been long time not logged in.
And surprised that the multi master still running but now with flat odds at 1.01? Bitcoin price getting high alright that is reasonable.
By the way Is it okay if i make a comeback just for the black friday drop and chasing for the multi master?
It is not illegal right? :p
77  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2020/2021 on: November 26, 2020, 11:00:09 PM
I have a feeling Chelsea will take the points in this game, Spurs have been plain sailing for a while now, they’re not a great team. Chelsea to win I predict.

I will probably stick with Chelsea instead of Tottenham if they lose last week against Manchester City but Tottenham won so I dont see any reason to doubt Mourinho at this point. It might be another boring game to watch but as long as Tottenham win the game then its all good. Also Tottenham has perfect record on away game so far in Premier League this season

straight up discipline all through.

Tottenham was really solid in defending against Manchester City. Not sure if Mourinho going to pull the same thing against Chelsea this weekend but Chelsea is very different in attacking style compared with Manchester City
I am not gonna lie that mourinho strategy is a masterpiece , he found that one defensive and perfect counter attack strategy to get the three points from manchester city last week and probably will use and keep this strategy as long as it provides  good results.
But how long you think tottenham will stay at the top with that playing style?
Does most of you guys enjoying the show that mourinho had in tottenham? Because i am not entertained watching a match like that and everytime i see that kind match i always think about a draw and it is not objective at all to think with that way so i will skip this match to bet but my prediction is a draw 0-0
78  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Take Profits in BTC or USDT on: November 26, 2020, 10:32:57 PM
There is some confusion when it comes to BTC Market or USDT Market and sometimes it is difficult to decide to take profit in which currency, BTC or USDT.

I give you an example here and hope anyone can explain in detail.

ETH was 0.035 BTC few months ago and it was around 400$ USD. I did not took the profit and did not sell Eth.

Today, ETH is 0.028 BTC but in USD it is around 540$. (buz BTC price is high)

Now if i had sold it earlier at 0.035 BTC, so today's its worth would have been 660$.

So what's is the best approach in this case to get the maximum profit ?



Though question is very good but answer is very simple you don't need to think which currency is profitable just think when you want to take profit, it is also simple just take your profit when the price is high don't think about value. Or if you want to compared then you can but my suggestion when the price gose high don't convert your crypto to unstable coin try to convert it stable coin like usdt. And then buy again when others currency gose down. Don't exchange into btc. So choose usdt when you in profit.
I think it is important to look at the momentum.
I mean if you do play it safe , a stable coin like usdt is your answer, but when you looking for more profit, more than just your trading profit but a long term profit then i think taking profit in bitcoin with the right momentum always better.
Here lets take an example , the lowest price of waves  coin occured in usdt at around 0.6 usdt last year in december when the bitcoin price swinging from 9000 usdt down to 7000.
Imagine if you takes profit in bitcoin rather than usdt , how much the profit you will have now?
Waves price increased 10times , bitcoin price increased 2 times but in waves-btc pair increased 5 times.
You bought 1000 waves worth 600 usd , sell it now for 6000 usd
You bought 1000 waves in bitcoin worth 0.00007 0.07 equal to 600 usdt , sell it now at 0.00035 for 0.35 equal to 6000 usdt , it is same but momentum make the difference!
You can gain more than just the average people if you takes profit in bitcoin and gets the momentum at the same time.
79  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread on: November 26, 2020, 09:43:33 PM
3 goals have already been scored at Braga against Leicester city. that could turn into a goal-point feast. Difficult to say who is going to win this one.
Ended with 6 goals in total, 3-3 as late goal from vardy at injury time secure 1 point. What a match it was.
I was expecting leicester to comeback from behind but i see it is concerning when the time is almost up but the additional time give leicester some time to finally equalize the score.
Arsenal win over molde 3-0 and as it stands tottenham win 4-0 over ludogorets razgard with the away team has 0 chance, zero shot lol.
All england teams win in european competition except for poor liverpool.
80  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin bullrun and correction period on: November 26, 2020, 08:07:26 PM
The market correction of bitcoin along with the entire cryptocurrency has begun. In a days time the market has faced a very big drop in the value. Right now everyone were with the expectation of market reaching its new ath value. Right now Whales will tend to make a big buy targeting to bump the price in a short and profit out of it.
Looks like we are in a phase of eliminating the doubters.
Everybody thinks that we will easily break and stay above 20000 usd but the market rejects it now.
What is the next move? This is the biggest question right now and everybody wondering , the fact that nobody can predict correctly this situation we are making speculation at this point as when the price bounce back after this correction , you wont regret  got some more bitcoin when the price tripled later.
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