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381  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 08, 2019, 04:48:44 PM
big game tonight between Lazio and Juventus. if juventus don't want to let inter feel comfortable at the top , they must win this one eventhough this gonna be a hard game as Lazio also looking for title race as an underdog. 1-2 for juventus both teams to score.
There is no doubt that it will be a difficult game for Juventus and i am expecting both teams to score and if we see some magical performance from Ronaldo who is silent for some time when it comes to scoring we might see them win the match but  Paulo Dybala and Gonzalo Higuain are making up for the team and i am expecting a high scoring match.
Poor juventus , they get the first lost of the season to lazio , i was really annoyed with them during the game.

a frustration not only for the team but the fans who really can not see intermilan spend too much time leading the league. lazio officially in the title race more considered seriously by the major contenders .

some today matches has finished with below as the results

sassuolo 2-2 cagliari

cagliari now moved up to 4th with this additional 1 point , tie as roma points but with a better goal difference

lecce 2-2 genoa

after leading 0-2 genoa seems careless to concede 1 goal and even worse get a red card, in the end lecce successfully make it 2-2

SPAL 0-1 brescia
382  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Sale my old bike and buy bitcoin, what do you think? on: December 08, 2019, 03:01:09 PM
An old bike? seriously? put some more effort dude!

a kidney could worth up to 1 million dollar, pull off that kidney from your body and convert it to bitcoins, that is what i called as a real effort haha you can get up to 130 bitcoin with a single kidney sold to the needy.
on a serious note , taking risk by selling stuff -a non necessary- stuff that is better choice rather than letting your stuff stay there losing value , you can switch it of to a productive , progressive one like bitcoin investment.

there is no harm to do it, as long as not something you are using it urgently in your daily life like a house.
it could be a high risk , you can not afford to lose it and i think that is a bad choice.
383  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: December 08, 2019, 02:43:42 PM
I see Manchester United have very good results every time they meet the top 6 teams this season. They don't seem to have suffered defeat.
If Manchester United had been stronger against teams from the bottom half of the table or against teams that they ought to have won comfortably against, probably they should be title contenders at this time of the season, but inconsistentcy and poor performance against smaller teams is what's proving to be their biggest problem this season.

If you ask me, I'll say Solskjaer should be given more time as uniteds manager, this rebuilding process wouldn't happen in just one season, they have proven that they are not pushovers and that they can match the big teams on any day, it's up to the manager now to solve other lingering issues in the team and see if they'll compete for the title next season, a change of manager now would lead to a start from square one.
How weird manchester united roller coaster performance this year , held liverpool draw and the next couple weeks get disappointing result, beat chelsea and the next week get another bad result, held arsenal and tottenham draw and the next few weeks down to poor performance, now won against manchester city , what come next to manchester united?

this is the most inconsistent performance among any other premier club this season.

you can win with very high odds with manchester united as they always making surprises to all of us.
i believe yesterday they stand at 10 or 11 odds to win against manchester city. does anybody pick them out?
384  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Nearly $10 billion worth of BTC moved in just 15 minutes? on: December 07, 2019, 04:29:40 PM
I also assumed it was an exchange or another sort of company changing wallets to ensure the security or something like that, but since you're claiming it's Bittrex, proof would be nice. Anyway, I've googled it and I think I've found it, so I'm attaching it here: https://cointelegraph.com/news/almost-9-billion-of-bitcoin-moved-on-chain-in-1-hour-record.
I don't think that whale alert makes sense, most of the time it turns out to be a technical operation... I don't even believe that there are 'whales' that can manipulate the market significantly, it's just a chain reaction with separate entities most of the time we see the price changing.
I'd be scared if it was a personal holding  Shocked $10 billion it must be corporate funds. satoshi himself own 1 million bitcoin worth 7.523.610.000 around 7.5 billion , who else holding more than 1 million bitcoin? i don't think anybody does have it in their personal wallet.
this is just an ordinary funds transfer , end of story.
some people taking advantage on this by linking to how the fund prepared for market dump, that is just random.
385  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 07, 2019, 03:57:13 PM
Smalling looks pretty good when playing for Roma. but the loan period will not be extended by the United States because Ole in his interview yesterday said Smalling will be called back to Manchester. very unfortunate because it seems like smalling enjoys playing in Italy. that's the advantage of a club loan its players to other teams if the player plays well then he will be called back to his home club
Duude! it must be by order of donald trump lol , you mean by united.
on a serious note , smalling did very well job at the back and sometimes scoring goal at the front , since the beginning of the season i know it was not smalling fault , but the club fault making smalling did not shoe off as good as now at roma.

i am not sure if he can get on the same level or get better if he come back to united, he should stay at roma.

big game tonight between Lazio and Juventus. if juventus don't want to let inter feel comfortable at the top , they must win this one eventhough this gonna be a hard game as Lazio also looking for title race as an underdog. 1-2 for juventus both teams to score.
386  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What the Crypto Markets Are Saying About the Future of Bitcoin on: December 02, 2019, 02:58:03 PM
The end goal of the article is to prove that people are bullish about bitcoin and its price will increase in future! That's pure speculation and nothing else! Randomly cited few half known personalities and their speculations are added to provide support to the author's statement!

What surprising is that, no one actually talked about the most important factor, adoption! Cryptos or bitcoin won't really grow until its adoption increases! There's nothing else so powerful enough to move the prices to another ATH! No matter what these self proclaimed crypto analysts say, until we see countries legalizing and adopting bitcoin within their economy, it will remain as a speculative asset like today! To make it look like a commodity and whatever else, adopting needs to increase!
+1

end of story.

once people realizing that bitcoin is useful they won't doubting the price itself anymore. the most undisputable proof backing bitcoin from any doubtful statements like "Bitcoin and other Cryptocurrencies, which are not money, and whose value is highly volatile and based on thin air"

those kind dumb statements will just disappear from earth.
it takes time don't worry it will come really soon, boomer will disappear in few years dawg.
387  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbooks and their rollovers for Bonuses on: December 02, 2019, 02:09:33 PM
I have been several times get first bonus deposit but it was played only for casinos games such as slot machine or dice game and the results was so bad because rare to me able to unlock the bonus and achieve wagering requirements but to get bonus deposit from sportbook seems it was never done to me before however 30x - 40x wagering requirements seems could be standard rollover for every gambling sites

30-40x rollover is indeed a standard requirement but it is usually for casino games only.
AFAIK bonus for sports betting is usually have lower wagering requirement.
OP here specifically referring to 1xbit which I know as a well known scam site, at least it has bad reputation here in this forum as we can see in their representative account 1xbit.com
Although OP has good experience there, but I would prefer to stay away since the site has no active representative account here so once there is an issue then it will be harder to contact them.
i can see that this 1xbit or 1xbet or whatever the site called 1x bla bla bla has numerous accusations

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i just a little bit confused , as i am pretty sure often see the 1xbet ads running in english premier league adsboard, in the watford and west ham united matches i think i often see it. is it the same 1xbet?

back to the topic , i think it is hard to find a sportsbook who offering this kind deposit bonuses , as they know it is too easy to rollover the bonus through sportsbetting it does not give benefits for them.
if there is any , tell us here more about the promo , many will interested.
388  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is still really bullish (Unpopular opinion) on: December 02, 2019, 01:26:26 PM
There is a shaking but I dont know who is selling at this price, maybe miners and to who? People are getting greedy at the moment for bitcoin and accumulation is at the peak, I cant explain the factor for the price movement down, everything still look manipulative, those that cant sell at $14k are selling now. Terrible low order at lower price and you wonder how much advantage they want to take from the market. The weak hands looks fewer at the moment, the market is bullish next year as from February towards May.
if we look at the market conditions where the buy order at the same level as the sell order for the last few weeks then yeah this is really strange , the indicators has shown it is a bullish but again it seems stopped by unknown parties.

clearly this is in manipulation by large group of people, i am pretty sure CME BAKKT involved.

take a seat and watch those clown playing their games, we are in good mood heading to halving day.
only fools selling it now cheap to whales.
389  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 01, 2019, 04:12:40 PM
are you sure ? how much did he scored this season for hoffenheim? i think below 5 isn't it?

prefer to choose for Rouwen Hennings who has scored 9 goals so far and give him the top 3 bundesliga to scorer , he is not only in good shape but at his top performance, guess how much the odds? that is a better one than yours hehe at 2.85
the price for double chance draw or away seems also worthy at 2.05 .
the head to head says it al that fortuna dusseldorf often draw with hoffenheim since 2012 statistically.

watchout, the odds for home team seems pretty good but the result could be really different.

Yes, pretty sure that AK will score one, or even two goals today, it depends only if he will start from the first minute or enter later from the bench
I’s my single for this afternoon, later will see what to bet more Wink
congrats! you won it in just 6 minutes , while mine in the last 6 minutes hehe both andrej kramaric -yours choice- at 2.28 and mine Rouwen Hennings at 2.85 scored the only goal for each sides.
not bad guesses isn't it?  Cheesy

next time we must try a collaboration guess bigdaddy.

meanwhile Borussia M'gladbach now looking to climb up to the top bundesliga table but held 1-1 after a goal galore Marcus Thuram scored in first 3 minutes to make it 1-0 and the next 3 minutes Jonathan Schmid scored for freiburg to tied it up. what an early game.
and it seems will ended 4-2 for Borussia M'gladbach secured the 1st place again.
390  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: December 01, 2019, 03:01:16 PM
Spurs won their third game in a row now. Mourinho really has gotten Dele Alli back on track it seems, I chose him to score in the last EPL week, but switched back to Kane this week, and of course Alli scores a double! Still,,, happy with my win for sure.

People are saying our defence is weak but better to let in 6 goals in 3 games and still get 3 wins rather than losing more goals in 1 game to the Germans right?

Go Spurs go!
classic mourinho "the ends justify the means" .

he never care about the beauty in playing football itself i guess , you can take a look back when he managed chelsea play with negative football to all out defense after leading , the same thing he did in manchester united in extreme way to park the bus all the way all the time makes the game itself become boring to watch , he should grew up by now to realize about this.

football more than just the outcome , you are not a gambler but a professional.
good thing he won his 3 first matches, big congratulations!
the real test is in this midweek against manchester united , his ex club, will be pretty much interesting to watch.

norwich city vs arsenal now ongoing and it is half time 2-1 win for norwich , bad start for fredrik ljungberg.
391  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Here are the Top 15 Cryptocurrencies according to Coinbase users on: December 01, 2019, 02:25:20 PM
Well, these are the only the coins held on Coinbase, which doesn't actually give us any indication of the 15 most popular coins in general. Additionally, I wouldn't say that the average hold time has anything to do with popularity. Can we really say that Ethereum Classic (ETC) is more popular than Ethereum (ETH) and Bitcoin (BTC) just because it has a longer hold time? That's ridiculous.

Personally, I think that hold time has little to no correlation with popularity. Certain coins are used more than others and have more utility, hence why the stablecoins have a shorter hold time. Doesn't mean they're not popular.

If you spend a lot of money, do you think that means you don't like money? Ridiculous.
no, but it shows that people more interested having certain coins in their wallet.
which means most of them choose a well known and an easy to find one to get more information as part their pre-investment on their own personal research  and also for me could be considered how popular that coin.

it is not hard to understand.

however this is just a statistics based on their point of view, you can creates your own statistics if you feel disagree or something.
chill and let's discuss things in friendly way  Wink , peace out.
392  Economy / Speculation / Re: No need to PANIC! on: December 01, 2019, 01:54:59 PM
That's the attitude right there. People are by default anxious when the market starts to change abnormally. It is the experience who particularly aid such attitude. I am pretty confident that sooner they will realize that what they are currently doing isn't a bit of a thing for them to be worried about. Well, sometimes they aren't to be blame because sometimes people are bit exaggerated about such changes that sometimes they been carried away by such anxiety.
you can not be stay calm when your whole savings fund stored in crypto and the market crash!

that is why you should only take the money you can afford to lose in to convert to crypto asset, not by going YOLO but in the end blame the whole thing in crypto haha i just can laugh at those people who doing so , pretty irresponsible.
gain some experience by spending less amount first , read more and apply it to a real action like start trading and feel the pain of losing money there.

as time goes by you will understand how the crypto market itself work , pretty different than others but so worthy.
393  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 01, 2019, 12:55:11 PM
Juventus vs Sassuolo half-time (1-1)
Will Juventus be held back by Sassuolo right now Ronaldo still hasn't scored a goal hopefully it will happen in the second half.
If lose Juventus from a small team, I lose a lot in betting.

Judging from their performance in the first half, It's a 50/50 chance for them to win. But I don't see them settling for a point today in the Allianz Stadium. Ronaldo didn't score throughout November. I hope he does score today. He's not quite living up to expectations in turin but it's understandable.  
I believe there would be more actions in the second half. Don't worry too much.


Edit: Juventus1 - 2 Sassuolo

Total shocker. I hope they bounce back from this.
i am watching the game and yes it will be worth to taking risk on sassuolo rather than juventus.

just look at ronaldo he seems so lazy to always stay in the front instead picking up the ball in the middle , look at how buffon did and overall the juventus players played like a shit. i feel bad for sarri managing this squad, what is wrong with juventus.

edit : juventus scored through penalty kick at 68 just now by cristiano ronaldo
a come back is a must otherwise it will hard to stay away from intermilan pressure.
394  Economy / Economics / Re: Does halving really create deflation? on: November 30, 2019, 03:02:22 PM
If people used only bitcoins to pay for goods and services and halving was expected ahead, it would definitely create deflation. That is, people would not buy goods in the hope of growing their bitcoins. But since Bitcoin is now an investment asset, and in everyday life people pay with Fiat currencies, Bitcoin does not create deflation.
let's take a look first at what exactly the definition of deflation itself before making any statement.

"Deflation is a general decline in prices for goods and services, typically associated with a contraction in the supply of money and credit in the economy. During deflation, the purchasing power of currency rises over time"
via investopedia

"deflation is a decrease in the general price level of goods and services. Deflation occurs when the inflation rate falls below 0% (a negative inflation rate). Inflation reduces the value of currency over time, but deflation increases it."
via wikipedia

which means in this case that bitcoin price become cheaper -the bitcoin purchasing power become weak and low- despite the halving day in the next few months that expected to make bitcoin even more expensive.
deflation usually about fiat money but here we are in different dimension where bitcoin itself considered as a digital money -some people believe bitcoin itself is free fro inflation with its unique valuation- , but with op questioning about the deflation it just makes me even more confused lol.

i mean here bitcoin for now still debatable wether it is considered as a money or an asset, if you agree to consider bitcoin as money then it has deflation but if you agree bitcoin is an asset then at this point it should not has a deflation just like any other asset.
confused?
yes me too.
395  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: November 30, 2019, 02:26:07 PM

0-2 for manchester city and a cleansheet!

29 minutes, Newcastle And City already make 1 goal, it possible for City to make more than 2 goals. 1-2 or 1-3 is very possible. But anything always possible until 90 minutes. Newcastle still have a chance to win  Cheesy

The game was quite fierce attacking each other between the two teams, but I am sure in Manchester City in the 90th minute will win this match.
Because my bet was there  Grin
congratulations jonjo shelvey ruined your day , it is 2-2 now  Cheesy .

i knew it since the first half manchester city has a bad start despite leading first but i can see the way manchester city play is really unusual and the power of home supporters where santiago munez -hehe- played there at st james' park is really killing city players.
it is FT newcastle 2-2 man city , getting slower to catch liverpool on the top.
and maybe the 2nd position will be taken by leicester city tomorrow.

it seems st james' park always be a real obstacle for manchester city these days.
396  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: November 30, 2019, 12:16:01 PM
There are no interesting home wins except for Newcastle, and even then I am really surprised to see that the odds are not so high, maybe because Newcastle beat City last season?

Liverpool all expected to win big even with main Fabinho out, but I am taking Spurs parlay with Chelsea to get 3/1. Kane and Tammy Abraham will be fighting for golden boot it seems!
what are you talking about, are you even bother to check the odds first?

i see newcastle to win over city is at 13 , how much do you expect for newcastle to win at home against manchester city? at 100? are you mad  Cheesy , city should win comfortably with at least two goals margin i guess.
they are full team expect for aguero which replaced by the same quality player it is gabriel jesus.
0-2 for manchester city and a cleansheet!

the last three match head to head manchester city always coceded , thi stime they should try for a cleansheet .
397  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: It is impossible to proof that somebody is Satoshi. on: November 30, 2019, 11:25:51 AM
It is impossible to prove that somebody is Satoshi.

I firmly believe that even if real satoshi turned up one day, people will also declare him Faketoshi.
This is so true.

Even if Satoshi presents his privatekeys, signs messages, shows his passwords, e-mail account accesses... it could be someone else who has all these privatekeys, passwords, accesses now.
He would only prove the ownership of these but it is impossible for somebody to prove that he is Satoshi.
It is possible all of the proof that he would show is legit so why would we doubt him?
If that person could open up all the old e-mails or Satoshi's account+private keys then why should we doubt him?
But this scenario seem's impossible to happen after all Satoshi vanish wothout a trace so that mean's he doesn't have a plan to reveal his true identity.
that is correct , but op seems keep doubting even with all those legitimate proof.
which means this discussion will never ending lol . too much -if- in his thoughts like :

what if the privkey has changed hands for reasons
what if all those sign messages, email account was hacked etc
what if op has been convinced finally but he got a brain ill that makes all of these discussions useless haha -no offense please-  Cheesy

it should not be easy for someone to somehow steal/hack satoshi credentials while satoshi himself invented the world best financial security system called bitcoin. he must have the best way to keep his credentials privkey secured.
this is a perspectives game , for me and for most people around here the privkey and sign message of the genesis block is more than enough. end of story. if you feel still doubtful well good luck.
398  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: November 30, 2019, 10:46:07 AM
Will "Kramashnjikov" (A.K.) score again? I think yes  Wink

TSG 1899 Hoffenheim - Fortuna Dusseldorf
Anytime Goalscorer Kramaric, Andrej @2.28

He is in good shape, after more than a month's break, he's back!
are you sure ? how much did he scored this season for hoffenheim? i think below 5 isn't it?

prefer to choose for Rouwen Hennings who has scored 9 goals so far and give him the top 3 bundesliga to scorer , he is not only in good shape but at his top performance, guess how much the odds? that is a better one than yours hehe at 2.85
the price for double chance draw or away seems also worthy at 2.05 .
the head to head says it al that fortuna dusseldorf often draw with hoffenheim since 2012 statistically.

watchout, the odds for home team seems pretty good but the result could be really different.
399  Economy / Speculation / Re: Btc Price is Not showing, Missleading news and hype on: November 29, 2019, 04:00:12 PM
If you don't believe the price shown on charts and tickers isn't the real one you are free to think of your own and follow it. Smart people have done it long ago by estimating what the price will be when only 1% of people in the world use Bitcoin.

The news is being spread by people who are trading futures. Wall street pump and dumpers. The news about Chinese president was fake and had old video from a year ago because somebody wanted to short. It was tweeted by some Chinese woman and everybody started to retweet it because this is how dumb people are. The same was with the news about Raids on Binance. I bet people who were retweeting it were shorting with 10x leverage Cheesy
absolutely.

the news that we used to read sometimes most of the times created for the bigger interest, for example as you said those people who want to buy cheap for their future trading project will spend million dollar paying here and there to all the famous media .
this is a cheekey way to make money, those people who get used in financial market manipulation will laugh at us now.

don't rely on news , combine with some technical analysis and you will find out which one lying and which one telling the truth.
400  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If You Bought Bitcoin Each Week in 2019, You’d Be up 49% on: November 29, 2019, 02:49:42 PM
I don't really know for sure, but if you were buying when the price was $3000 and you are buying weekly till the time it got to $13k to $14k and then dropped back now, there will be some loss I guess or am I wrong about that? There is nothing wrong with buying it all at once, I guess the author was saying this for those that couldn't afford to buy the whole thing at once, so he was trying to say that if they were managing to invest a little money every week in Bitcoin they would be up by around 50%.

If you want to buy at once you will have to target what you are buying and make sure that you buy at the right time. Imagine those that bought at $3000 how much profit they will have by now? That's more than 300%?
the formula is to have a proper investment management.

you could just buy at $3000 at once and taking profit whenever the price to $4500 , you have got 50% profit without have to wait long time. that is not the case here , i mean it was not aimed at those people who love taking that big risk to buy and spend money all at once.
with continuously buying bitcoin in separate times , you are reducing risk to get loss and even more a sure profit in the future.

you cannot always buy and sell at the right time isn't it? by doing this i think you will always in a position where you are buying at the right time.
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