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581  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: May 12, 2019, 08:29:01 PM
Liverpool and Man City both won the last EPL match this season but luck did not side with Liverpool so they had to give up the EPL trophy this season to Man City. Nevertheless, Liverpool is the best team this season because they have been so consistent for the past 3 seasons.
582  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind. on: May 12, 2019, 08:25:23 PM
No one really cares about what you think about gambling and gamblers. As long as they are gambling with their own money and not harming anyone directly, it is not proper to criticize them. In the modern world, it is not considered politically correct to impose your views of morality on someone else. You may be offended by something and the best thing to do in that case should be to stay away from that. 
Giving criticism is okay. However, this criticism will not have a major effect on people who are already addicted to gambling. I think the OP might only give an appeal and remind us all of the dangers and risks if we gamble.
583  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [DISKUSI] Pandangan negatif terhadap para pengguna crypto on: May 12, 2019, 07:04:44 PM
Kita sebagai pengguna forum, bounty hunter, minner, trader maupun sebagainya tidak bisa melarang orang luar sana berpendapat kepada kita Bung. Untuk merubah pandangan orang lain bukan perkara mudah menurut saya, apalagi kalau orang tersebut memang susah untuk mendengarkan penjelasan. Kalau orang yang berpendapat demikian, maka akan lebih baik jangan di jelaskan saja Bung karena toh setelah kita jelaskan dia tidak akan merubah pandangannya. Grin
Setidaknya kita berusaha dulu untuk menjelaskan kepada orang-orang tersebut, ya itung-itung kita juga mempromosikan teknologi blockchain dan bitcoin ini. Jika mereka paham ya kita bersyukur tetapi jika tidak paham juga ya setidaknya kita bisa merubah sedikit pandangan mereka terhadap kita dengan sedikit penjelasan yang kita lakukan walaupun pengaruhnya akan tetap saja.
584  Economy / Gambling / Re: Win a Lamborghini for 0.00056 BTC on: May 12, 2019, 07:00:38 PM
Is it a raffle draw that requires potential players to buy tickets or are they free? Or should the whole process just be a way of selling your Lamborghini.
Well the proof you have given are authentic and quite reasonable
One ticket is enough if you get that luck but if you have a lot of tickets then the chance to win the lottery will be more than you bought only one ticket. So, it's your choice, we can't just rely on luck.
585  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which gambling sites offers investment on: May 12, 2019, 06:54:45 PM
I think freebitcoin's beautiful side is that it combines your profits into one. If a person claims free faucet you get money, if a person gambles than you get money, if he plays lottery you get money, you are getting free lottery tickets from all of it, if he invests his money into the casino you are getting share of his profits, if he is claiming reward points so you are too.

There is like a billion things that could be considered as profit from their side and not like that is enough all money you profit from them profits you as long as you keep it on their website. They are not like other websites that gives you money when gamblers lose and take your money when gamblers win. In freebitcoin you are getting 4% yearly profits for your bitcoin no matter what.
What you say is the advantages of freebitco and this is also the main reason why people choose to gamble on these sites because the money they deposit in these sites is not only used for gambling but also we can use as a long-term investment.
586  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Don't panic sell on: May 12, 2019, 09:54:44 AM
Is not good to sell coins on panic and also is better If have enough profit for a coin to start sell it, because not wait and after the price drop and drop and be sorry and wait to much to get a profit.
Panic will only make the situation worse. There are two serious examples, namely when prices drop dramatically and when prices increase significantly as at present. I think we should be able to think smartly, we must be able to make decisions by paying attention to all aspects. When prices increase, what we need to do is not be greedy, we must be able to set sufficient limits and we must pay attention to the needs we need. When prices decline, we must be patient, do not let us sell it at a cheap price even though prices can increase again. This is what is called making decisions carefully and precisely.
But sometimes people are not as strong as you are to hold their coins any longer because they are also always thinking about prices that continue to decline. This is a major problem for the holders.
587  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [DISKUSI] Pandangan negatif terhadap para pengguna crypto on: May 12, 2019, 09:47:27 AM
Benar sekali tuh, kalau masalah halal dan haram tidak akan ada ujungnya karena setiap ahli agama mempunyai pendapat masing-masing dan sampai sekarang pun cryptocurrency masih pro-kontra di kalangan para ulama (ahli agama). Ya, ane pribadi sih lebih condong mengambil pendapat para ulama yang pro terhadap crypto selain karena saya juga pengguna crypto dan pendapat2 tersebut bisa masuk akal menurut orang yang awam.
kalau ane pribadi sih yang penting dapatnya bukan dari cara yang salah aja om, misal dari ngehack atau menipu orang lain. selama kita kerja dengan benar maka menurut ane gaada masalah dengan pekerjaan ini.
Kita sendiri mungkin merasa apa yang kita kerjakan benar dan tidak melanggar apapun, tetapi orang diluar sana yang seperti belum melek teknologi terutama orang-orang tua terkadang berpendapat bahwa kita melakukan hal yang tidak baik gan. Hahaha

Nah gimana menurut agan kalo ada yang seperti itu terhadap agan? Siapa tau pendapatnya bisa jadi solusi nagi yang lain.
588  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Can we Now Comfortably Say We have Entered the Bull Run? on: May 12, 2019, 09:42:16 AM
Since the last 2 weeks crypto prices have begun to increase even some negative news such as a hacked exchange does not make a big influence to undermine the ongoing increase in crypto.  I think that in the next 2 days the crypto price will probably be corrected again.
589  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [DISKUSI] Pandangan negatif terhadap para pengguna crypto on: May 11, 2019, 09:03:05 PM
Dimana jaman semodern ini masih banyak orang yang belum melek teknologi, dikiranya kalau mau dapat uang itu harus rapi pakai kemeja tiap pagi berangkat ngantor Grin
Karena memang di negara kita budayanya seperti ini gan, jika ingin mendapatkan uang maka harus bekerja dalam artian bekerja yang terlihat oleh pandangan mata dan terlihat pula keringat dari pekerjaan yang dilakukan. Bahkan terkadang saya mendengar ada beberapa keluarga yang mengharuskan anak-anaknya untuk menjadi seorang PNS sampai-sampai menjadi kewajiban melebihi kewajiban lainnya.  Grin Grin Grin Kita bisa memaklumkan saja orang-orang yang belum melek teknologi tersebut.
590  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: May 11, 2019, 08:59:44 PM
Apparently, Liverpool must give up the EPL trophy this season to Man City and they can focus on the UCL trophy that is in sight to get. The UCL trophy is far more valuable than the EPL trophy because they can still fight for EPL again next season
sure it's really dissapointing for Liverpool as they never won any EPL title as they had a good fight for it and spent time building a team that can bring them the title that they dreamed about for almost 30 years but the matter is not in their hands and they need to focus on UCL to redeam themselves for losing the league and missing out on UCL title last season.
The current condition is what makes them have to make UCL the main focus because the opportunity to get the EPL title this season is very unlikely when seeing opponents of its competitors is also very easy to defeat.
591  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling - Eating your Brain and Money on: May 11, 2019, 08:50:16 PM
gambling must be for fun so there is no need to torture your brain and try to invent the system to cheat the casino. just relax and play.
That is an easy theory but when you have lost a lot, you will not be able to relax and no longer have fun. Making a strategy in gambling is important even though it is luck that will determine the outcome and that is enough to make the brain mess because of the strong desire to take back what has been lost.
Chasing back losses is not the right way to play gambling because it will add to the loss we experience. Preferably, relax the money we have lost by gambling and stop for a moment to refresh the mind. Following your passions will only make things worse.
592  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: If Spentrade.com is legit or scam? on: May 11, 2019, 07:03:03 PM
This mode of fraud is very often encountered and it makes us always have to be aware of an email that we receive. Indeed there are not many reviews of the site because maybe the site was made only temporarily and only aimed at deceiving people. You better just leave all conversations with parties on behalf of the site.
593  Economy / Gambling / Re: Bitcoin Casinos on: May 11, 2019, 06:58:19 PM
I've got platforms that have good credibility, it would be great an OP update to keep us well informed, there are poker sites that I still do not see in the list, and other games where the platforms are very reliable and provide security to customers.

I am a fan of games, and I would like that when you have the availability of time you would do it so that the thread does not die, this type of threads are informative and acquire many visits, it is only a recommendation. Keep going and with good work.
If you don't mind please share your platform so that we can visit it and we will assess the platform that you have so that the platform can really prove its own reliability and strength.
I am also a gambler, and I am also interested in new gambling sites especially if there are various bonuses in the games that are in those sites.
594  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Apakah mungkin suatu saat nanti bitcoin menjadi tidak berharga [dead coin] ? on: May 10, 2019, 09:28:35 PM
Bisa jadi bitcoin akan menjadi dead koin, karena saya merasakan semakin lama transaksi menggunakan BTC membutuhkan waktu konfirmasi yang lama. jika orang-orang mulai tidak sabar dengan itu dan beralih ke Altcoin maka Bitcoin bisa saja mati.
Sampai sekarang saya belum merasakan konfirmasi yang lama dari transaksi BTC, mungkin agan terlalu pelit kali ngasih fee transaksinya. Jangan pelit-pelit gan, fee transaksi yang cepat terkonfirmasi tidak seberapa kok, itung-itung sedekah buat para miner mengkonfirmasi block (termasuk ane) hahaha  Grin Grin Grin
Saya kira jika konfirmasi yang lama dari transaksi BTC menjadi alasan BTC menjadi dead koin rasanya terlalu jauh deh apalagi sampai sekarang orang-orang belum meninggalkan BTC (beralih ke altcoin) justru kondisi sekarang ini masih banyak orang yang beralih ke altcoin dengan tujuan untuk mendapatkan bitcoin lebih banyak lagi dengan mengkonversi altcoin mereka ke bitcoin nantinya.
595  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: May 10, 2019, 09:20:49 PM
Sepertinya harga akan naik. Ttpi untuk saat ini harga bitcoin mash stabil. Tidak ada perubahan yg signifikan. Semoga aja di akhir blan bisa sampe 200.0000.000. Amin...
Kalau akhir bulan bisa nyampe harga segitu sih banyak orang yang akan jadi auto sultan gan. Saya pribadi tidak menginginkan harga melonjak naik dengan cepat karena hal tersebut rentan dengan penggelembungan semata, yang jelas kenaikan bisa sampe harga segitu dengan cara signifikan dan bertahap mungkin akan lebih sehat kondisi pasarnya.
596  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: May 10, 2019, 08:54:40 PM
Liverpool will beat Wolves & Man City will beat Brighton which means Man City will be champions. Liverpool have a chance to win the biggest prize of all though a few weeks later in the CL Final.
It's a very good chance for Liverpool to finish this season well by winning the CL. I would prefer to win CL trophy rather than EPL.
Anyway, Liverpool this season is much better and I'm very happy even though it's hard to expect Man.City to lose in the last match. But with the great opportunity Liverpool at CL to get a trophy, at least it will cure the wound because of Man.City who will get the EPL trophy.
Apparently, Liverpool must give up the EPL trophy this season to Man City and they can focus on the UCL trophy that is in sight to get. The UCL trophy is far more valuable than the EPL trophy because they can still fight for EPL again next season
597  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dont be dumb gamblers on: May 10, 2019, 08:51:13 PM
My friend recently get scammed by a gambling site which he found by continuously browsing. On internet. Sorry but even he cant remember the name so i cant tell you but here's what you wouldnt do. He said he was searching about how cryptocurrency gambling work. He is much aware about bitcoin but not about using it for gambling. He find some "yellow botton" he said which offers gambling for newbies and the rest is history. Goodbye $200 . yes thats kinda bit small but should you wait that it happened to you with a bigger amount? Here's what you would do.
1. Dont click and browse non recognized site to avoid phishing.
2.. Always ask first the people on this forum whether the site is legit or not.
3. Dont put too much money on that site so if ever its really a scam, the amount it can get is minimal.
4. If it looks really legit, try some few games with few bets at first.

Being cautious costs less than not being aware at all. Dont let our greediness and dumbness takes over our financial life. Be safe people.
I'm also concerned about what happened to your friend. However, it happened because of the mistake of your friend who was not careful when visiting a gambling site.

Gambling is a very risky game and many people take advantage of gambling games to commit various frauds in order to gain profit from their victims.

Careful attitude must always be instilled by gamblers. In this forum, too many people have reported various scam gambling sites. It would be wiser if we play on a gambling site to see the reputation of the site first and you can find references to trusted gambling sites especially those that accept bitcoin gambling in this forum.
598  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which gambling sites offers investment on: May 10, 2019, 07:17:59 PM
I think the safest option compared to trading and all that is the fact that as long as there is no hacking involved you are bound to make money. If you are considering bitcoin as a whole for investment and decide not to invest into bitcoin then yeah you can invest into something "safer" yourself.

So, the "safe" here is not for the people who are holding fiat and considering what to invest into, the "safe" here is the people who have bitcoin and don't know what to do. If you have bitcoin at your hand and you are going to invest into something eventually its safer than trading because in trading you may lose money if you buy high and sell low but in casinos you invest and you keep making profits after profits which increases your bitcoin holding in the long run.
Trade and investment are both at risk and not just trade that can suffer losses due to wrong buying and selling decisions. Investments also sometimes suffer losses when market prices decline. We will not experience profits and losses if we do not carry out trading or investment activities.

But, at least if we make a long-term investment, especially investing in a trusted gambling site, the money or bitcoin that we invest is managed in such a way by the developers of the gambling site for our benefit.
599  Economy / Gambling / Re: Win a Lamborghini for 0.00056 BTC on: May 10, 2019, 07:10:22 PM
For this scheme I would mostly be concerned if its being run by the person mentioned initially.     If its just a UK run lotto from the person with history of selling/lottoing (effectively its a type of auction imo) his house that way, its seem likely he will risk going to jail for fraud and will run it reasonably.    Theres a risk of deception sure but the main deal is to confirm the identity of the promoter and that the tickets are being widely distributed and the promoter will be held responsible after the draw is done.    Theres some risk with dealing with any establishment
We'll see the reaction or response from the promoters after the lottery draw was finished. Are they responsible for what they promote after the winner of the lottery is known, and I am sure the promoter will also ask for the percentages of lucky people to win the lottery?
600  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 09, 2019, 08:45:07 PM
Different from the Premier League which will end next week. Serie A still leaves 3 weeks of matches for each team. However, we already know the Serie A champions in the previous week while the Premier League champions still have to be determined until the final weekend match.
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