If you know how to sign a message using the bitcoin wallet assigned to his Bitfunder account, then you'll be able to verify ownership later on, once the asset is frozen and converted to AM100 shares on HavelockInvestments.com

However, if you can get that 2-factor working, it will be much easier and quicker for me to help, as I need to be able to control the shares to do anything with them for you.

You might get some additional assistance by joining the #bitfunder channel using IRC, on Freenode.

It's an optional service to convert your shares now, rather than whenever the issuer passes them to Friedcat as direct.

Be it for peace of mind, or any other thing you might want to do with your shares once they are out, we're just offering options.

OFFER EXTENDED, BETTER INSTRUCTIONS ADDED


We have decided to offer a limited-time service to convert your G.ASICMINER shares into AM100 (Havelock), AM1 (Havelock), or Direct Shares. These are fee-based services that require 5 microshares in fees per whole-share (or you can use whole shares to cover the fees for larger conversions).

There is no fee to convert G.ASICMINER to AM100 (fractional shares), but please note that AM100 shares carry a 5% management fee on dividends.

Additionally, we will be offering AM100 or TAT.ASICMINER shareholders a temporary service to convert their shares into AM1 or Direct Shares for the same fees.


Example #1: You have 10 G.ASICMINER shares, but you want to convert them to AM100 fractional shares. Pay no fees, simply push your G.ASICMINER shares to TATInvestments and email us according to the "G.ASIC > AM100" instructions below.

Example #2: You have 10 G.ASICMINER shares, but you want to convert them to direct shares. Push the 10 G.ASICMINER shares plus 50 TAT.ASICMINER shares (or AM100) to TATInvestments, and follow the "G,ASIC > Direct" instructions below.

Example #3: You have 1000 AM100 shares, but you want to convert them to AM1 shares. Transfer 1050 AM100 shares back to the issuer, and email us according to the "AM100 > Direct" directions below.


The following limitations apply:
1. You must initiate each conversion request before November 22, 2013.
2. Due to many requests, your migration might take anywhere from 1-9 days to process.
3. Beginning Nov. 22nd, these temporary services will be discontinued.
4. We can make no guarantees that Bitfunder or Havelock will not impose additional limitations on trading in the future.



G.ASICMINER TRANSFER OPTIONS

How to Convert G.ASICMINER Shares to AM100: (FREE SERVICE)
 1. Push the amount of shares to the issuer account on Bitfunder: TATInvestments
 2. Make the subject of your email: "G.ASIC > AM100"
 3. Send an e-mail to tat.investments@gmail.com from your account email address registered with HavelockInvestments.com and include the following info:
  - Bitfunder account name (not email),
  - Bitfunder public wallet address
  - Quantity of shares pushed
  - Havelock registered email address

How to Convert G.ASICMINER Shares to AM1: (Fee-based Service, 5 microshares per whole-share)
 1. Push the amount of shares to the issuer account on Bitfunder: TATInvestments
 2. Make the subject of your email: "G.ASIC > AM1"
 3. Send an e-mail to tat.investments@gmail.com from your account email address registered with HavelockInvestments.com and include the following info:
  - Bitfunder account name (not email),
  - Bitfunder public wallet address
  - Quantity of shares pushed
  - Havelock registered email address

How to Convert G.ASICMINER Shares to Direct Shares with Friedcat: (Fee-based Service, 5 microshares per whole-share)
 1. Push the amount of shares to the issuer account on Bitfunder: TATInvestments
 2. Make the subject of your email: "G.ASIC > Direct"
 3. Send an e-mail to tat.investments@gmail.com from your account email address registered with HavelockInvestments.com and include the following info:
  - Bitfunder account name (not email),
  - Bitfunder public wallet address
  - Quantity of shares pushed
  - Email address you want registered with Friedcat
  - Wallet address you want registered with Friedcat


AM100/TAT.ASICMINER TRANSFER OPTIONS

How to Convert Your AM100 (or TAT.ASICMINER) Shares to AM1: (Fee-based Service, 5 microshares per whole-share)
 1. Using the Transfer feature, push the AM100 (or TAT.ASICMINER) shares back to the issuer account. They must be a 105:1 ratio, this means the minimum is 105 AM100 or TAT.ASICMINER shares.
 2. Make the subject of your email: "AM100 > AM1"
 3. Send an e-mail to tat.investments@gmail.com from your account email address registered with HavelockInvestments.com and include the following info:
  - Havelock-registered email address
  - Quantity of shares pushed

How to Convert Your AM100 (or TAT.ASICMINER) Shares to Direct Shares with Friedcat (Fee-based Service, 5 microshares per whole-share)
 1. Using the Transfer feature, push the AM100 (or TAT.ASICMINER) shares to the issuer account. They must be a 105:1 ratio, this means the minimum is 105 AM100 or TAT.ASICMINER shares.
 2. Make the subject of your email: "AM100 > Direct"
 3. Send an e-mail to tat.investments@gmail.com from your account email address registered with HavelockInvestments.com and include the following info:
  - Account name
  - Quantity of shares pushed
  - Email address you want registered with Friedcat
  - Wallet address you want registered with Friedcat

How to Convert Your TAT.ASICMINER on Bitfunder to AM100 Shares on Havelock (FREE SERVICE)
 1. Make the subject of your email: "TAT.AM BF"
 2. Push the amount of shares to the issuer account on Bitfunder: TATInvestments by using the Transfer feature while logged in to bitfunder.com
 3. Send an e-mail to tat.investments@gmail.com from your account email address registered with HavelockInvestments.com and include the following info:
  - Bitfunder account name (not email)
  - Bitfunder public wallet address
  - Quantity of shares
  - Havelock registered email address


Do NOT send your request more than once, and do NOT include multiple requests in one email.

Conversions will be transferred in batches, and confirmations will ONLY be sent after each batch. Do NOT send emails requesting updates.

NOTE: TAT Investments is not responsible for any lost value, arbitrage, or trading opportunities due to delays in processing transfer requests. TAT Investments is not responsible for any limitations or discontinuations of services or access to liquidity imposed by the host exchanges.

XBOND No-Penalty Buyback Offer
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Until November 22, 2013, TAT Investments is offering to buy back up to a total of 500btc worth of XBOND units at exact face value (0.001 btc each).

This is a chance for anyone that wants to redeem for bitcoins, but doesn't want to pay the 5% fee.

If you are interested in redeeming for bitcoins, simply transfer the XBOND units back to the issuer (using the "Xfr" link in your Havelock portfolio). Then send an email to tat.investments@gmail.com from your registered Havelock email address, noting the quantity you are redeeming and the wallet address for the redemeption payment.

Is TATI going to do any forced buyback of XBOND?
Possibly, we are trying this to see if any mutually beneficial redemptions can be made. If not, as always, TATI reserves the right to to do a partial proportional recall from all holders, or a full recall, at any time.

You are wrong, the intent is not for there to be a concentration of unsold shares.

I should let Danny comment on any specifics on how the dividends are handled for unsold shares.

The 30th was the deadline to raise the minimum amount to proceed with the plan, and not refund it all. To my knowledge, Neo & Bee can still make use of additional funds to grow the company and its services.

The unsold shares will remain for sale, this was made clear at the start.

Your speculation about AM board income, and why TATI should buy up all the NEOBEE shares is not logical or informed.
(TATI does disclaim that it may hold and trade NEOBEE units at will.)

Danny is getting news out to everyone as soon as he can.

Neo & Bee Sponsors Cyprus Investor Show 2014

Neo & Bee are the proud sponsors of the Cyprus Investor Show 2014, this event takes place in December 2013.

We shall have the largest presence at the event out of all the sponsors which also include traditional banks.

This show will introduce institutional investors to Neo & Bee and Bitcoin, we have already been approached to manage crypto-currency portfolios on behalf of several large institutions and this conference will provide a platform for many more investors to get familiar with Bitcoin and Neo & Bee.

Here is an image of the advertisement for the event: http://imgur.com/sjbuTJH

I know that someone was bombarding HL with API requests a few days ago. Maybe you had a glitch and polled too hard?

CryptoStocks lists blatant scams. Why even do business there?

Ignored. Don't make promises you can't keep.

Amazing.

Amazing that it got listed at all. Amazing that Cryptostocks didn't know. Amazing that anyone would use the exchange at all...

I say this not as competition, but because it would be nice if there to be more places to do business.

In general, they are a very motivated group. If you have feature requests, share them with Havelock directly.

E-mail & count are tracked. We are working with Havelock to add a "failsafe" wallet address feature as well (like BTCT had).

Your shares were bought back already and merely not deleted yet, afaik. He probably needs to take the time to destroy all shares and close the asset officially.

Please note that the direct-share management system will probably never have the ability to sell shares directly. It's not meant to be an exchange service (that's what exchanges are for). Your post implies it is inevitable, but, to my knowledge, that is not the case.

Also note that shareholder lists for both Havelock and the direct management system are backed up by TATI and the respective providers, meaning that your registered ownership is always stored by multiple parties, regardless of the host.

I'm not sure what your point was about the price, but right now the only price indicators are Havelock and OTC auctions, and there is not enough data from OTC auctions to say whether the Havelock price is substantially different than any other price.

There appears to be some technical error in Havelock's dividend system. They will likely address it tomorrow.

For anyone that is still on Bitfunder.com that wishes to use their free migration to go to HavelockInvestments.com (NOT the direct management system), please use these instructions for now:

NEOBEE Bitfunder > Havelock Migration

We are enabling each Bitfunder shareholder ONE free migration.

The following limitations apply:
1. You must initiate this migration request before December 1, 2013.
2. Due to a massive amount of requests, your migration might take anywhere from 1-4 days to process.
3. Beginning On December. 1st, all remaining Bitfunder NEOBEE holders will be converted to direct-share management, registered under their public Bitfunder wallet address.
4. We can make no guarantees that Bitfunder or Havelock will not impose additional limitations on trading in the future.

 How to Transfer Shares:
 1. Make the subject of your email: NEOBEE BF
 2. Push the amount of shares to the issuer account on Bitfunder: NeoBee (Use the Transfer function in Bitfunder.com)
 3. Send an e-mail to tat.investments@gmail.com from your account email address registered with HavelockInvestments.com and include the following info:
  - Bitfunder account name (not email),
  - Bitfunder public wallet address
  - Quantity of shares
  - Havelock registered email address

Do NOT send your request more than once, and do NOT include other requests, questions or comments.

Transfers will be made in batches, and confirmations will ONLY be sent after each batch. Do NOT send emails requesting updates.

NOTE: TAT Investments is not responsible for any lost value, arbitrage, or trading opportunities due to delays in processing transfer requests. TAT Investments is not responsible for any limitations or discontinuations of services or access to liquidity imposed by the host exchanges.

It only shows ownership in the moment, OTC traders could be readily scammed if they simply trust a ledger. The seller can simply collect your money, then move the shares to Havelock and sell them again. Escrow is the only solution for OTC trades. Some would consider trading on an exchange to be the safest way to trade.

I have no issue with a public ledger, as long as the holders are aware their wallet address and share count will be public, and aware that the ledger does not guarantee ownership for anything other than that moment.

You don't have to use TATI for escrow. Whether you trust TATI for the service is your own decision. We just recommend all trades are done as safely as possible. There is no conflict of interest in facilitating a private transfer of units. All fee-based services are optional.

A public ledger of shareholders does not protect direct private trades. Only escrow can do that.

Exchanges are, essentially, automated escrow systems, and that is why people bother with them.