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1241  Economy / Auctions / Re: Another 575 ASICMINER shares (Fixed price) on: June 04, 2013, 01:57:32 AM

EDIT: 395 @ 2.45   Please pm me with escrow arrangements.

Thanks!
1242  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: June 03, 2013, 10:32:57 PM
They are sent weekly directly to a public address of your choosing.

When you buy direct shares, freidcat is literally just changing the ownership of the previous address to your new address.

so how do I know that the address is being changed correctly or verify this if there is no login site? I just wait a week and assume it's changed and won't/cant be changed back?

you can get friedcat to confirm it to you in an email.
Alternatively you could always buy passthrough shares from bitfunder or btct.

Or havelockinvestments.com
1243  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] TAT.VIRTUALMINE - IPO at 12PM EST - Early Bidding is Open on: June 03, 2013, 10:31:58 PM
TAT any news on a havelock release

Havelock talks are in the works, nothing guaranteed yet though.
1244  Economy / Auctions / Re: Another 575 ASICMINER shares (Fixed price) on: June 03, 2013, 06:20:20 PM

EDIT 220 @ 2.45
1245  Economy / Auctions / Re: Another 575 ASICMINER shares (Fixed price) on: June 03, 2013, 05:17:02 PM

EDIT 200 @ 2.45
1246  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: June 03, 2013, 04:53:24 PM
I have no idea... maybe AM bought back shares over time? Who knows?

Well a simple check... do you see your address listed?   If not... what address are your satoshies sent from?  Maybe he has the PT's on a different transaction?

Mine is in the same batch.
1247  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: June 03, 2013, 04:49:11 PM
It's likely that AM sends divs in more than one batch.

From what I know all satoshies are sent from 115tTroRo3B9ZDQ6ATJGDCHcNEVbjJoZnF, is this not true?

Really cool! Where/how did you get the data about transactions? I guess you didn't do it by hand  Smiley

I dug through information on the blockchain and copy pasted stuff mostly.

I have no idea... maybe AM bought back shares over time? Who knows?
1248  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: June 03, 2013, 04:38:36 PM
So I think I messed up... but maybe someone can find my mistake...

I tried to take all the satoshi transactions that appeared on 5/29/2013 and put them into a spreadsheet.  When I did this however the total number of shares came out to be 64,459 which means... im missing some... right?

Some cool things came out:

1) There are 298 direct shareholders
2) The mean number of shares held is 216 shares
3) The most common number of shares to hold is 10
4) The largest holder of shares (in one address) holds 12590 shares

THESE NUMBERS MAY BE WRONG!!!! I only could account for 64,459 shares... can someone find the ones I am missing or explain why I can not find them?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Am3MH7b0EM3adG56N1VzZzdtNXRZSkdOOXcxbGx0TXc&usp=sharing

It's likely that AM sends divs in more than one batch.
1249  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] TAT.VIRTUALMINE - IPO at 12PM EST - Early Bidding is Open on: June 03, 2013, 04:02:32 PM
The first daily payout is complete; 94% of the IPO sold in 24 hours!

Thanks to everyone for a successful day.
1250  Economy / Auctions / Re: Another 575 ASICMINER shares (Fixed price) on: June 03, 2013, 03:44:03 PM

EDIT: 180 @ 2.45
1251  Economy / Auctions / Re: Another 575 ASICMINER shares (Fixed price) on: June 03, 2013, 03:30:10 PM
100 @ 2.45

EDIT: 150 @ 2.45
1252  Economy / Auctions / Re: Another 575 ASICMINER shares (Fixed price) on: June 03, 2013, 03:15:25 PM
100 @ 2.45
1253  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] TAT.VIRTUALMINE - IPO at 12PM EST - Early Bidding is Open on: June 03, 2013, 03:01:32 PM
The IPO is 80% sold so far.

The first daily payout is in about an hour, at 0.00004138 per share.
1254  Economy / Securities / Re: BitFunder - Lets grow together! A request to all users - https://bitfunder.com on: June 03, 2013, 12:49:43 PM
Iam suprised I never heard anyone complain about this so it might me only my problem for some reason? Whenever I loard up site with  graph of any security it laggs for a bit like 2-3sec. Its not a big deal I quess but it gets anoying after a while...

This has been mentioned before and is currently being worked on Wink
1255  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] TAT.VIRTUALMINE - IPO at 12PM EST - Early Bidding is Open on: June 03, 2013, 10:50:33 AM
when are the dividends payed?

will they be payed after all the 100k shares from IPO have been sold?

Dividends are paid daily at roughly 12PM EST. BitFunder does not have a feature to allow me to schedule payouts ahead of time, so they must be done manually.

Payouts will be made on this schedule regardless of the amount of shares sold.

The first payout will be in about 5 hours!
1256  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] TAT.VIRTUALMINE - IPO at 12PM EST - Early Bidding is Open on: June 03, 2013, 10:26:51 AM
hi tat, your handy chart should include picostock's 100th bitfury project.  200mh/share for btc0.289 at present is 0.001445 per mh.

https://picostocks.com/stocks/view/19

I considered them, but most people have never used picostocks.com, and I'm uncertain of its trustworthiness and notoriety within the community.

The chart was merely meant to paint a picture of a generally overpriced marketplace. If/when I update it in the future, I'll reconsider the 100TH project, particularly if it has materialized by then. Wink
1257  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] TAT.VIRTUALMINE - IPO at 12PM EST - Early Bidding is Open on: June 03, 2013, 10:23:34 AM
Can you explain what you mean by "backed by ... ASICMINER shares"? Does this mean that TAT.VM holds shares of ASICMINER, and these shares belong to bond holders? Or, does it just mean that TAT.VM promises to hold a certain number of shares of ASICMINER as assurance that TAT.VM dividends will be paid?

Also, does "ASICMINER shares that represent an amount of hashing power" mean average hashing power per ASICMINER share? For example, the current ASICMINER hashing power is about 20 Th/s, or about 50 Mh/s/share, so each TAT.VM share would be backed by 1/50th of an ASICMINER share, right?

Finally, in addition to mining, a portion of ASICMINER dividends is based on the profits from sales of hardware. What happens to this portion of the dividends?

TAT.VM promises to hold a certain number of ASICMINER shares as extra assurance that the daily payouts will be made. This is in addition to the confidence that I have enough personal bitcoin to make payouts, even if I didn't hold backing assets.

Your understanding of the hashing aspect and how it works to back this asset is correct. Essentially, I am promising to hold an amount of AM shares that provably represents and equal or greater amount of hashing power to the amount of TAT.VM I have sold.

The only relationship my AM holdings have to this asset is as a form of assurance that the daily payout, as determined by the 24-hour hashing reward formula, will be paid with total confidence. TAT.VM is strictly meant to represent a virtual 1MH/s of hashing power, and the average mining rewards that might reap in a real-world setting, as determined by the formula.

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If I may, I'm hoping to address your dissenting vote for TAT.VM to list on BTCTC

TAT.VM is more than a simple bond, as it provides a speculative instrument that is very relevant within the current market environment. Due to the overpriced and obfuscated value of the majority of mining assets on the market, there will be creative ways to "play" this asset that will also lead to making a profit, due to its daily payout frequency and that the market likely considers TAT.VM to be underpriced.

What I am offering, despite its obvious exposure to mining difficulty increases, is one of the best value hashing representations out there.

Additionally, no matter how unlikely it may seem, it is not a guarantee the mining difficulty will go up forever, and this asset does provide a method for someone to hedge against that. In this sense I do have real risks on the table, risks that I had to consider heavily in pricing this asset.

Thank you for your questions, I do hope my answers help you to reconsider your vote for TAT.VM on BTCTC!
1258  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] TAT.VIRTUALMINE - IPO at 12PM EST - Early Bidding is Open on: June 03, 2013, 01:24:03 AM
So given what I have stated above, I would like to ask
1.) How often do you plan on issuing new shares?
2.) Will warning be given before issuing new shares?

It is not my goal to devalue the bonds prematurely, but I did need a way to allow myself to issue more shares in the future because my analysis leads me to believe demand will be high. It is in everyone's best interest (including my own) for the value to be set by the market.

I do not have a set plan for frequency of sales, but I will consider coming up with a way to make the issuance of new bonds more structured and/or formulaic.

At the moment, I plan to play it by ear. I do not want to sell an infinite amount of shares, even if I could. There are real liabilities at stake here.
1259  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] TAT.VIRTUALMINE - IPO at 12PM EST - Early Bidding is Open on: June 03, 2013, 01:16:45 AM
So.. i did some number crunching...
a Block Erupter Blade ASICMINER   10   costs ฿ 50 and delivers 10,000 Mh/s
now lets say you use those 50 btc and buy bonds you get 50/0.007 = 7142 shares or 7,4142 Mh/s

hmm interesting...

Check your math, you've got an extra 4 in there Wink

This asset was intentionally priced to be more expensive than a Block Erupter.
1260  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] TAT.VIRTUALMINE - IPO at 12PM EST - Early Bidding is Open on: June 02, 2013, 11:07:18 PM
Nice to know that hopefully this will be on BTCT soon, I will definitely consider buying a few hundred shares.

However this is my main concern that might hold me back:

Buying a share is the equivalent of buying 1 MH/s in hashing ability. This amount of hashing power will remain static while difficulty will increase at around 10-20% every other week, so won't the value of the stock share go down significantly over time?

Mining difficulty is likely to generally go up over time, but share price for most mining assets is usually much more delayed in being affected. I can't control the market, but I would not be surprised at all if share value actually goes up in the short term. I am offering something at nearly half the rate of other issuers, so it's possible the prices will meet somewhere in the middle.

It's also possible that something could happen to stagnate difficulty, and even though it's unlikely, there is always a chance that difficulty could rise very slowly for a period, allowing healthy dividends to be prolonged.

There may also be strategies for reinvesting dividends into more bonds in the short term, that might allow you to float over the diff changes, combined with a healthy share price. There is a lot to consider, and many dynamics to factor in this market. Overall, ALL mining assets have their risks, as well as their relationship to difficulty changes.
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