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Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC] TAT.ASICMINER New Micro-share Passthrough!
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on: June 06, 2013, 01:52:04 PM
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It says dividend failed, doesn't that imply that no one got them
edit: I posted on the link, but if it didn't pay out fully does that mean you didn't get the full BTC deducted from your account too TAT?
That's how I could tell, I still have roughly 6btc left to pay out. It looked like the system was slowly paying people out over the course of a few minutes, as my balance would lessen slowly as it worked. I think it choked, probably as people started buying and selling while it was trying to work. |
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Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] TAT.VIRTUALMINE - IPO at 12PM EST - Early Bidding is Open
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on: June 05, 2013, 07:47:01 PM
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IPO is done so you can probably publish a simple reports, showing us how much TAT has as "shareholders equity" and how much you have as "investments" under assets in BTC. (ASICMINER and something else?) and all the other usual stuff (expences etc)
While I have not promised any sort of reports, and as a bond holder, one can't expect "shareholder equity" reports, I do appreciate that tracking my backing between my two assets could be time-consuming or complex for people, so I will consider including updates in my next transparency report that confirm my AM holdings readily. The fact is that my holding addresses, and portfolios are already public and auditable weekly. |
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Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] ASICM, a New Micro-share ASICMINER Passthrough!
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on: June 05, 2013, 07:28:36 PM
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Dividends for ASICM have been scheduled. I believe they will fire at the top of the hour, so you still have time to buy!
Takes a long time. I am now also a direct shareholder and got my divs from Friedcat hours ago. Do you speculate with your own PT's? When divs are announced the prices tend to rise a bit then drop. I suspect someone can make a nice amount of money with that. You did not get your divs hours ago. They haven't even received one confirm yet. Technically, ASICM shareholders received their divs before anyone on the planet  I do not have the power to manipulate the price of shares, it would be a losing battle anyway. If you analyze most assets, the value ebbs and flows around dividend payments. Yes they are still pending in Electrum. I was wondering how long it would take. So that's why you haven't payed out yet, right?  As noted above, I paid ASICM dividends at the top of the hour. |
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Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] ASICM, a New Micro-share ASICMINER Passthrough!
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on: June 05, 2013, 07:10:39 PM
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Dividends for ASICM have been scheduled. I believe they will fire at the top of the hour, so you still have time to buy!
Takes a long time. I am now also a direct shareholder and got my divs from Friedcat hours ago. Do you speculate with your own PT's? When divs are announced the prices tend to rise a bit then drop. I suspect someone can make a nice amount of money with that. You did not get your divs hours ago. They haven't even received one confirm yet. Technically, ASICM shareholders received their divs before anyone on the planet I do not have the power to manipulate the price of shares, it would be a losing battle anyway. If you analyze most assets, the value ebbs and flows around dividend payments. |
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Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] TAT.VIRTUALMINE - IPO at 12PM EST - Early Bidding is Open
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on: June 05, 2013, 07:06:08 PM
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Some new "units" (I have to be careful with these terms...) were sold within the first 36 hours of the IPO release at roughly .0075 and higher. I have not participated in the market since then.
Oddly, other speculators seem to be holding down the price for now.
Regardless, the intent of this asset is to be denominated as 1MH/s. While I can affect the market value by releasing more, I cannot totally control the market from speculators or increased demand over time. I want to see a healthy price, just as much as the other unit holders. Generally, this asset is still undervalued when compared to other mining assets, or, you can say the others are overvalued...
I plan to take some time to see if I can think of a regulated way to issue new shares in the future, but I cannot promise a magical solution. At the moment, I have sold as much as I'd like to, and will probably not reassess until this weekend.
I can tell you that if the asset does get approved for release on BTCTC, I won't be releasing as many shares there (in the short term at least), and it will make it much less likely that I will release new shares on Bitfunder (in the short term).
I want to know ,when will you stop this IPO process??? if you always issuing new contracts...it make very difficult for us to selling our contract without loss....seems we are obligate to fee the 0.8% trading administration fee.... I do think if you would slightly issue less new contract it will be a good news for those earlier adopter...what you think here?? It seems you did not read the comment you quoted. |
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Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC] Community Exchange w/ Options, DRIP, 2FA, API, CSV, etc.
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on: June 05, 2013, 06:27:27 PM
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In general, and where it is a crystal clear mis-categorization, I am happy to re-categorize issues.
As Deprived mentioned, most of the stock PT's are in the stocks category because they behave in most ways like holding the stock. On those I'm not opposed to creating a new category and/or shifting ALL of them to funds though. We just have to be consistent. Maybe we should call them IDR's? BDR's? or CDR's? (International DR... Bitcoin DR... or Crypto DR, keeping in mind I have to use the same category on LTC-GLOBAL.)
I think there are more important things to sort out |
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Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] TAT.VIRTUALMINE - IPO at 12PM EST - Early Bidding is Open
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on: June 05, 2013, 05:34:39 PM
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what controls how many will get put onto the market?, is there a limited amount of them,
As far as I can tell, TAT is free under the contract on Bitfunder to release more shares at any time, without advance notice, and to set any "fair market price" when doing so. In fact it looks like he has done so once already -- there were originally 100k shares released, but now it looks like there are 115k total shares released. I don't know if the additional 15k shares released at a later time were also sold at .007 or not, but TAT was probably not contractually obligated to set the price precisely at that level even if he happened to do so. It is also my understanding that TAT is currently looking into the process of launching the same investment on at least one if not two other exchanges (btct and Havelock). If successful, this would obviously result in the creation of more shares as well, albeit in a sister market. So scarcity of shares, in the sense of a stable and known number of shares where the share issuer does not arbitrarily create more, does not appear to be a feature of this asset. The asset will not be released on Havelock, this I can confirm. It's release on BTCTC is in question, but uncertain at the moment. Some new "units" (I have to be careful with these terms...) were sold within the first 36 hours of the IPO release at roughly .0075 and higher. I have not participated in the market since then. Oddly, other speculators seem to be holding down the price for now. Regardless, the intent of this asset is to be denominated as 1MH/s. While I can affect the market value by releasing more, I cannot totally control the market from speculators or increased demand over time. I want to see a healthy price, just as much as the other unit holders. Generally, this asset is still undervalued when compared to other mining assets, or, you can say the others are overvalued... I plan to take some time to see if I can think of a regulated way to issue new shares in the future, but I cannot promise a magical solution. At the moment, I have sold as much as I'd like to, and will probably not reassess until this weekend. I can tell you that if the asset does get approved for release on BTCTC, I won't be releasing as many shares there (in the short term at least), and it will make it much less likely that I will release new shares on Bitfunder (in the short term). |
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Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It
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on: June 05, 2013, 04:46:27 PM
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I love this thread and I love you guys. Especially Smig's granny there  . @TAT - I'd be willing to help comb through this thread (from hereon out) to help compile a list of questions to direct towards shareholders. Could easily set up a simple webapp where people submit questions and we can post the reply's/answers to them. Or a simple forum post if that would be preferable. Want me to PM you or did you already get a few people onboard? pm me and FrankTank, we'll get this thing started |
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