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661  Economy / Securities / Re: [NEW!] [XBOND] Bitcoin's Only Exchangeable Bond on: July 31, 2013, 01:02:54 PM
Interesting, however :

2. Direct Redemption: Bonds may be redeemed at any time at 95% of face value, 0.00095 for each bond.

With Ukyo/Graet.loan, I can get 100%. Redemption for assets don't help - you still need to face trading fees, so it's not 100%.

Those loans are not exchangeable though, so a different monster.

The idea here is to have people committed to the bond and what it provides, not liquidity at every moment. The market will still be a place for bondholders to buy and sell. Once people see the exchangeable aspect in action, I have a feeling liquidity will be a minor issue.

Exchanged bonds are indeed 0-fee (100% face value). It's possible this may change one day on the host exchange's level, but due to the person-to-person exchanging process, fees are not levied on Pre-IPO purchases.
662  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: July 31, 2013, 12:36:59 PM
Hehe, you guys don't even hold shares yet and already you have demands. This is awesome  Cool
663  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread on: July 31, 2013, 12:33:13 PM
How many posters in this thread are socks anyway?
664  Economy / Securities / Re: [NEW!] [XBOND] Bitcoin's Only Exchangeable Bond on: July 31, 2013, 12:26:25 PM
Cool, that's pretty interesting. Can you talk about the sort of other projects xbond will be able to exchange for...Do you have something on the arise at the moment?

We're presented with opportunities quite regularly. We pass on most of them, but there is always something brewing.

I can't to you a "when" or a "what" for the next release yet, but there are several planned for this year, and they aren't all PTs Wink
665  Economy / Securities / Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] [XBOND] Bitcoin's Only Exchangeable Bond on: July 31, 2013, 11:14:17 AM
I know there will be some questions, so here are a few more points:

1. The initial public offering will begin at Havelock Investments, and likely expand to BTCT-C and BitFunder as appropriate.

2. IPO date to be announced, but likely this week.

3. Any XBOND on any exchange can be exchanged toward Pre-IPO offerings on any exchange, so long as they are issued by TAT Investments.
666  Economy / Securities / Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] [XBOND] Bitcoin's Only Exchangeable Bond on: July 31, 2013, 10:44:39 AM
In summary, this is a bond that pays daily at .05% per day.

It is redeemable by the bondholder, callable by the issuer, and exchangeable.

The exchangeability feature allows Pre-IPO purchasing of upcoming securities provided by TAT Investments.
667  Economy / Securities / [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] on: July 31, 2013, 10:44:24 AM
XBOND
Exchangeable Bond Offering

Overview
XBOND is a “perpetual” fixed-yield bond (0.05% Daily, 18.25% APY) issued by TAT Investments with special redemption privileges, callability and putability terms.

This asset is being offered for the following purposes:
1. To increase TAT Investments' ability to provide new public offerings
2. To provide Pre-IPO Placement access to upcoming public offerings issued by TAT Investments
These offerings may include stocks, bonds, futures and other investment opportunities.
3. To improve TAT investments' financial agility

Dividends (Daily Coupon)
This bond pays a fixed-rate daily coupon, or interest rate, of 0.05% (18.25% APY). Each coupon will be scheduled to payout daily at 12:00 pm EST, unless the host exchange has technical issues, in which case the payments will occur at the earliest time possible.

Face Value
Each bond has a face value of 0.001 bitcoins.

Initial Public Offering (Date to be announced)
The initial public offering will be sold in 4 tranches of 500,000 units each, at a price of 0.001 bitcoins per unit. (2,000,000 units, totaling 2,000btc).
Orders can be placed at https://www.havelockinvestments.com/order.php?symbol=XBOND

If a tranche remains unsold after 1 week, the remaining unsold tranches may be removed and placed for sale on another exchange. Additional bonds may be issued in the future if proper backing is in place.

Backing
TAT Investments will always reserve a portion of its bitcoin-denominated holdings with a market value that is greater than 100% of the face value of our issued debt in bonds

Any equities assigned as backing to these bonds will be otherwise unencumbered from any liabilities to other securities provided by TAT Investments.

Backing equity will be held in publicly verifiable accounts, and a quarterly transparency report will be provided to detail all backing assets. TAT Investments may use bitcoins or any publicly traded bitcoin security assets as backing.

Bond Redemption (Putability)
These bonds may be redeemed in two ways:

1. Pre-IPO Redemption: These bonds may exchanged at the full face value, 0.001 bitcoins each, toward the purchase of newly announced public offerings provided by TAT Investments. XBOND holders will have first access to units of any eligible IPO we provide, before open market trading begins, on a first come, first served basis.

Pre-IPO Redemption Rules:
- To instigate a redemption exchange for Pre-IPO purchases, simply transfer your bonds to TAT Investments' account on the host exchange, and send a corresponding e-mail to tat.investments@gmail.com confirming your desired Pre-IPO purchase details.
- Pre-IPO exchanges will be fulfilled in the order that the full transfer is received.
- Pre-IPO purchases must be paid in full by redeeming XBOND units.
- If an IPO is sold out through bond redemptions, any unfulfilled redemption requests will be sent back to the original bondholder.
- Once a redemption request is received it is binding.
- Pre-IPO shares will provided within 3 days after the IPO.

2. Direct Redemption: Bonds may be redeemed at any time at 95% of face value, 0.00095 for each bond. Please allow 1-3 days for redemptions worth less than 10 bitcoins; 1-15 days for redemptions worth 10-50 bitcoins; 1-30 days for redemptions worth 50-100 bitcoins. Turnaround time for larger direct redemptions will be quoted on a case-by-case basis. Any bondholder may sell their XBOND units on the host exchange. Bondholders may instigate a maximum of one redemption request per week.

Bond Recall (Callability)
Bonds cannot be recalled during Pre-IPO sales periods. These bonds may be recalled by the issuer at any other time at 105% of face value, 0.00105 bitcoins each.

The issuer has the right to recall any outstanding bonds at will. If TAT Investments recalls only a portion all outstanding bonds, we will do so as proportionally among all bondholders, rounded down to the nearest whole unit.

Voting Rights
There are no voting rights associated with these bonds.

Reserved Rights
Issuer reserves the following rights:
1. To issue additional bonds publicly or privately (the quantity of total outstanding bonds will always be made public)
2. To buy or sell bonds publicly or privately (the quantity of total outstanding bonds will always be made public)
3. To make changes to this contract that represent the best of interests of bondholders
4. To correct and clarify any gross errors or details herein that prove to be open to misinterpretation
5. To temporarily or permanently assign additional rights or privileges to bondholders.
6. To permanently increase the daily interest rate of all outstanding bonds
7. To limit frequent, abusive redemption requests
8. To specify minimum or maximum redemption terms and eligibility for Pre-IPO redemptions

Dissolution
In the event that the issuer chooses to, or is forced to, close this asset for any reason, a new operator may be vetted and chosen by TAT Investments to take over control of the asset, or all bonds will be bought back by the issuer at 105% of face value. Daily coupons remain due every day until such time as TAT Investments is able to make such a final payment.

Issuer Info
TAT Investments is a leading bitcoin investment company with a mission to provide highly desirable offerings to bitcoin investors in new ways, and to set higher standards for bitcoin investments.

TAT Investments has provided identity information to the host exchange privately as a gesture of good faith, as well as emergency contact information.

A “dead man’s switch” will be implemented in order to pass control of this asset to a safe secondary operator in the case of the issuer’s untimely demise or hospitalization.

Disclaimer & Risks
Bitcoin’s legal definition as a currency, commodity, investment, or financial instrument may be subject to unique regulations in some jurisdictions. The issuance of bitcoin-denominated securities may be considered high-risk in the current environment. Please perform due diligence in all of your investment decisions, and consider all risks before purchase. While all investments involve risk, bitcoin securities may be considered among the most risky. Some have products and services that are still in development or have yet to be tested in the market. Many trade on unregistered exchanges.

Another risk that pertains to bitcoin securities involves the low volumes of trades. Because most bitcoin securities trade in low volumes, any size of trade can have a large percentage impact on the market price of the security.

Losses caused by default/theft within the host exchange may affect the putability and/or the degree of backing representing this security.
668  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: July 31, 2013, 08:44:06 AM
Please keep them coming, it's for science!

Survey: As an individual, what do you most like about LabCoin?
669  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: July 31, 2013, 08:31:59 AM
Survey: As an individual, what do you most like about LabCoin?
670  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTCT.CO] [IPO] [FAQ]BTCGARDEN MINER---Eyes to the horizon on: July 31, 2013, 07:56:06 AM
You guys are nuts.
671  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTCT.CO] Voting on assets? (Both LABCOIN and BTCGARDEN are open for votes) on: July 30, 2013, 06:04:36 PM
Simply schedule the IPO after the application is approved. You don't have to sell shares the MOMENT it is approved.
672  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTCT.CO] Voting on assets? (Both LABCOIN and BTCGARDEN are open for votes) on: July 30, 2013, 05:48:12 PM
How long does it usually take for the 'voting members' (10+ share owners of Litecoinglobal) to vote on assets? Seems somewhat important for planning and from what I can tell it is a process that no one knows how long it takes.


Roughly 1 week, in my experience.
673  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: July 30, 2013, 02:36:04 PM
Couldn't this just be an Avalon chip order with lipstick?

Your tech and pricing for chips is no better, and too late, no?

What am I missing?
674  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread on: July 30, 2013, 12:09:25 AM
Read the bitfunder irc chat log.  I was bitching about them for awhile.  This should be valid proof of my motives.

Now that you have promised not to sell, you can enable your public portfolio in BTCT and link it for us.

ok, how?

What the...?

No you shouldn't have to show your portfolio.

If you moved the shares due to paranoia or you moved them to make a quick buck, why the hell should ANY of us care?  We all do what we feel is in our best interest whether that be short or long term. Get over the witch hunt guys.  Nothing wrong occurred, the money will be distributed in dividends for the rest of us, and at the end of the day even of the share price drops a bit we all know that once eASIC news arrives this whole situation will be moot.

Honestly guys, please grow up a bit.

+1 big time.

He offered to sate the hungry, I provided a vessel.
675  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread on: July 29, 2013, 11:37:46 PM
Read the bitfunder irc chat log.  I was bitching about them for awhile.  This should be valid proof of my motives.

Now that you have promised not to sell, you can enable your public portfolio in BTCT and link it for us.
676  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread on: July 29, 2013, 11:00:37 PM
"To the company"

What does this mean exactly?

It will be considered profit either used to cover expenses or paid out in div..

Maybe investors would've made more by issuing new shares instead... maybe.
677  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread on: July 29, 2013, 10:43:47 PM
Why has the share-count increased on BTCT.co today?

It's at 3069481, and was previously at about 2950000.

That's roughly 120k new shares sold today.

previously, when?

Less than 24hrs ago.
678  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread on: July 29, 2013, 10:29:40 PM
Why has the share-count increased on BTCT.co today?

It's at 3069481, and was previously at about 2950000.

That's roughly 120k new shares sold today.

If it was the issuer, it would be easy to see due to shares appearing in bold on the ask wall, correct?

Aren't those options that were still frozen in AMC-PT and were redeemed now?

Issuer orders cannot be distinguished visually.

Options are reserved upon being written, not when executed.
679  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread on: July 29, 2013, 10:05:00 PM
Why has the share-count increased on BTCT.co today?

It's at 3069481, and was previously at about 2950000.

That's roughly 120k new shares sold today.
680  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC] Virtual Community Exchange w/ Options, DRIP, 2FA, API, CSV, etc. on: July 29, 2013, 09:56:16 PM
Did anyone kept track of historical market capitalization of all shares on btct.co or the number of outstanding shares?

I was thinking about creating the "BTC-TC Share Index" to get an overview how the overall Bitcoin share market performes. Maybe that's not the best approach (suggestions very welcome!), but I thought about something like this:



The above is not complete and I think bonds and funds should be included, too.

I like the idea of a share index, to give a general feel of the BTC-markets. For your current setup, I would reevaluate the inclusion and/or weight of TAT.ASICMINER, since it is not excluded that that security isn't partially backed by ASICMINER-PT shares, which would cause them to be double-counted.

In general, I would like an index where ASICMINER has less effect on the index, but since this would not be an accurate representation of reality, I don't know if it's a good idea to tamper with the weight-function.

Funds and bonds I would not include. Funds are often baskets of other shares (mixed with some currency), which would cause more double-weighing. Bonds should not fluctuate in price and always trade close to their face value, so they don't serve a purpose in an index. There are the "mining bonds" (that aren't bonds) that are basically inverted difficulty futures and the price of them doesn't necessarily reflect the performance of the market.

TAT.ASICMINER is currently totally backed by direct shares, not PT shares. We have backed this way in the past, but no longer need to do so.
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