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901  Economy / Securities / Re: [WTB] 10BTC AMC European Call Options on: June 28, 2013, 12:45:23 PM
... I wouldn't advise anyone to take this deal as Ken has a history of manipulating his stock price.  He was caught by Ukyo and had his hand slapped for it, but that only means he will be more careful next time.

+1
902  Economy / Securities / Re: [FIMB] Fixed-Interest-Mining-Bond on BTC-TC on: June 28, 2013, 05:30:21 AM
1. What does this have to do with mining?
2. How is your asset approved so quickly and with less than 5 votes?
903  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC] Community Exchange w/ Options, DRIP, 2FA, API, CSV, etc. on: June 28, 2013, 02:57:06 AM
Hello burnside,
can I ask how is the value of transfered shares in "My Value Analysis" calculated?
I have some DMS shares transfered from Deprived and some have some value, but one transfer is valued at BTC0.

It depends on the sender to plug something in.  I have a little JS that tries to grab the 7d avg when someone sends, but it doesn't always work.

I'm hoping before too long to have a way for people to edit that in the page.

Cheers.


How come my balance was showing X+100, and now is showing X? Can I have my free bitcoins back please?  Roll Eyes

Manual withdrawal go through while you weren't looking?



Nope, the amount isn't exactly 100, but I'll pm some screenshots to you of the weirdness.
904  Economy / Securities / Re: The expectation of div's sets the world of crypto-stocks off on the wrong foot on: June 28, 2013, 02:17:46 AM
Insightful responses. I agree that the trust factor is a big issue right now and something I probably don't consider with enough weight.  It seems that bitcoin investors lack a certain badge of trust that traditional regulators are supposed to supply.  The SEC in the USA for instance is supposed to ensure that security issuers are playing by a certain standard set of rules so investors need no sweat the small stuff.

Perhaps what bitcoin investors need is an independent auditor with a specific set of technical criteria for evaluating publicly traded bitcoin companies.  A group dedicated to providing audits of financials, share structure, true capitalization ratings, debt and credit ratings etc etc.

If trust is the big issue here, (and upon some consideration I would agree that it is) then it would seem that we need a sort of better business bureau of the bitcoin securities world. Like a seal of approval not to provide endorsement of a company per se but rather to provide assurance that a certain set of standards have been observed and met by the company being rated that would be of relevance to crypto-stock investors.  Has anyone tried to do this sort of the a thing before?


That is in conflict with the spirit of bitcoin. YOU are the Better Business Bureau. Vote with your money, vote with your trust. Be informed because you ARE informed.

Have you ever dealt with a BBB or a Chamber of Commerce or a business lobbying group? The more authoritative each grows, the less effective and more untrustworthy each becomes.
905  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] Virtual Mining - Hash Without Hardware! on: June 28, 2013, 01:53:37 AM
Where is the 6/27 Div?

All set, sorry for the delay. Crazy day!
906  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC] Community Exchange w/ Options, DRIP, 2FA, API, CSV, etc. on: June 27, 2013, 10:39:06 PM
Hello burnside,
can I ask how is the value of transfered shares in "My Value Analysis" calculated?
I have some DMS shares transfered from Deprived and some have some value, but one transfer is valued at BTC0.

It depends on the sender to plug something in.  I have a little JS that tries to grab the 7d avg when someone sends, but it doesn't always work.

I'm hoping before too long to have a way for people to edit that in the page.

Cheers.


How come my balance was showing X+100, and now is showing X? Can I have my free bitcoins back please?  Roll Eyes
907  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] Virtual Mining - Hash Without Hardware! on: June 27, 2013, 10:38:05 PM
ThickAsThieves 1: -0 / +17(17)   2013-06-22   0.00000000   Reference   Possible sock puppet for BitcoinPlay (see reference link). False scammer accusations.

WTF is that?  Shocked

Sounds like you got hacked. Make a new account, run your antivirus, use better passwords, change any accounts you have elsewhere that used the same info.
908  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Lets make Bitcoin 2.0 and combine all innovations of the past years into one! on: June 27, 2013, 10:26:25 PM
Where can I send you a tip?
909  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER Speculation Thread on: June 27, 2013, 10:15:25 PM

The delicious kind.
910  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER Speculation Thread on: June 27, 2013, 10:08:01 PM
AMC  Wink
Speculate

Tears.
911  Economy / Securities / Re: S.MG - The Ministry of Games. on: June 27, 2013, 03:51:29 PM
Details posted today re the S.MG MMORPG's real cash economy, chosen game engine and software, development environment, splash screen and game artwork submission opportunities, etc.

Great news, loving the progress. MP also promised me secret zones and weps!
912  Economy / Securities / How to Become a Bitcoin Investor in 8 Easy Steps (comic relief) on: June 27, 2013, 03:20:39 PM
How to Be a Bitcoin Investor

1. Check most recent dividend on every stock you can find, buy only the best ones!

2. Don't bother reading the descriptions, just a bunch of gibberish and jargon.

3. Invest aggressively! You'll be pretty sad if you miss out on the next big thing.

4. Only listen to advice of people that agree with you, everyone else is just mean anyway.

5. Believe the hype, we are the new wealthy elite, gentleman!

6. When price is rising on any stock, buy faster!

7. When price falls, consult the crowd to determine who did this to you (probably one of those meanies).

8. Trust everyone, what choice do you have anyway!?
913  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ASICMINER Blade Sales [Temporarily Out of Stock] on: June 26, 2013, 11:22:00 PM
I'm fed up reading about free-market bollocks.

Look at the end of the day, a deal is not a deal unless both parties get something worthwhile out of it, and ASICminer's deals are so one sided it's untrue.

Any discount as prices are 'slashed' (lol) are mitigated as all future profits become ASICminers whether they keep them and mine them, or sell them for all the coins they could potentially be mined for.

Aside ASICminer, anyone currently thinking they are getting anything out of these deals sums up a lot of the behaviour and lack of due diligence I have seen on this forum. Close to none.

Still if you get an emotional thrill from being so submissive, who am I to stop you, it's clearly a warped fetish...

A deal is whatever 2 parties agree to deliver. There's no greater ideal of value required. The only time you truly get to decide if a deal is worthwhile is when you are a part of it.
914  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ASICMINER Blade Sales [Temporarily Out of Stock] on: June 26, 2013, 08:48:48 PM
I bet the new boards will be PCIe and cost 10btc
915  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ASICMINER Blade Sales [Temporarily Out of Stock] on: June 26, 2013, 06:46:29 PM
Right, but if they sell too much ASIC mining hardware, they will cut into their own mining revenue. That alone is enough for them to keep the price of blades high.

Actually it is the complete opposite.  Why would ASICminer brother with the logistic (setup, pay for power/space/maintenance) to mine themselves if they can receive instant 1-2 years worth of bitcoin mining profit from people who can't do or don't care about math?  In another words, why would anybody in their right mind turn down collecting 1-2 years worth of salary in advance today?  Especially when you tells them in 1-2 years you will either be out of a job or your salary will be 1% of what you will be earning today for doing the same task (The current generation of ASIC useful life ends when difficulty increase 100 times in 1-2 years)?

There is a logical answer to all of this.

1. ASICMINER's farm acts as security for the network, it quite literally insures their hardware sales business by being as big or bigger than any other threat.
2. In much the same way, as AM increases the size of their farm, they increase demand on their hardware sales due to rising difficulty. A dangling carrot.
3. The farm provides predictable revenue, something hardware sales may not always provide.
916  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ASICMINER Blade Sales [Temporarily Out of Stock] on: June 26, 2013, 06:09:04 PM
Aren't you all forgetting a "little" detail in all of this price calculation? Asicminer mine! They sell shares of their mining. The devil is in the details...
Up to you now to connect the dots.

The only thing ASICMINER sells is hardware.
917  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: June 26, 2013, 05:34:23 PM
All TAT.AM PT dividends have been paid. Pew pew.
918  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] ASICM, a New Micro-share ASICMINER Passthrough! on: June 26, 2013, 05:33:23 PM
Dividends paid at 0.00018412 per share!
919  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC] TAT.ASICMINER New Micro-share Passthrough! on: June 26, 2013, 05:14:37 PM
Dividends queued at 0.00018412 per share!

Got em. That was fast.

That's what she said!
920  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC] TAT.ASICMINER New Micro-share Passthrough! on: June 26, 2013, 04:51:15 PM
Dividends queued at 0.00018412 per share!
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