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April 12, 2016, 07:49:00 PM
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The tides...tell me how are the tides generated on a Flat Earth?
You are correct, but he did not ask for proof, he asked for a way to prove it through some sort of experiment.  Also if the earth was flat, tides could be caused my many things, such as the gravitational pull of the moon, the rotation of the earth would still cause tides.  Just something to think about.


There's an established experiment that been repeated and the results confirmed. The experiment involves two telescopes pointing at the same star. One telescope is filled with water to slow the speed of light. The result is that no adjustment to the angle of the "aquascope" is required to keep the target star in view and centered.

This experiment was first performed by George Biddell Airy in 1871 and proves without a reasonable doubt that the Earth is stationary and motionless; the stars orbit above.

So no, the Earth's rotation doesn't cause the tides; Earth doesn't rotate.


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Proceedings of the Royal Society of London

Airy, G. B. (1871). "On the Supposed Alteration in the Amount of Astronomical Aberration of Light, Produced by the Passage of the Light through a Considerable Thickness of Refracting Medium"

George Biddell Airy

Proc. R. Soc. Lond. 1871 20, 35-39, published 1
January 1871
 

http://rspl.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/20/130-138/35.full.pdf

What is subject to reasonable doubt is your (false) interpretation of this experiment.  The only thing the experiment shows is there is no aether drag.  That's it.  What others have argued is that it's proof of a *geocentric* Earth, not a flat one, although this interpretation is also flawed.

So...

1) The experiment shows there is no aether drag (true).

2) The experiment, no matter how you spin it, says nothing about the shape of the earth.

3) One could make the (flawed) interpretation that the Earth is geocentric and that the aether doesn't move with respect to the earth. The problem with this interpretation is that it fails to explain stellar abberation.  To explain stellar abberation in this case, every single star would need it's own unique formula for determining the amount of abberation we observe.

...Or, instead, we posit the earth isn't geocentric and that it moves, which then perfectly explains all observable stellar abberation.  It's the simpler (and correct) explanation.
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April 12, 2016, 10:23:44 PM
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The tides...tell me how are the tides generated on a Flat Earth?
The tides...tell me how are the tides generated on your imaginary spinning wobbling, dancing globe?

It is proven the Moon (a cooling light in the sky) has got absolutely nothing to do with it.
After all tides happen at opposite end of the globe at the same time.
There can be no colleration found between high or low tides and the Moon.
Lakes are not affected by it which means it is some Electro Magnetic force pulling the salty water more and or less near the North pol.
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April 12, 2016, 11:14:58 PM
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The tides...tell me how are the tides generated on a Flat Earth?
The tides...tell me how are the tides generated on your imaginary spinning wobbling, dancing globe?

It is proven the Moon (a cooling light in the sky) has got absolutely nothing to do with it.
After all tides happen at opposite end of the globe at the same time.
There can be no colleration found between high or low tides and the Moon.
Lakes are not affected by it which means it is some Electro Magnetic force pulling the salty water more and or less near the North pol.

No.  Lakes have tides, too.  You can measure it.

And the reason for a high tide on the side of Earth opposite the moon is because the centrifugal force of the moon-earth system is greater than the gravitational pull of the moon.  So, bodies of water experience high tide when they both face towards and away from the moon.
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April 12, 2016, 11:23:43 PM
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The only geometric solid which looks like a circle from any direction is a sphere. The Earth always looks like a circle from space. Ergo, the Earth is a sphere.
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April 13, 2016, 02:26:00 AM
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The tides...tell me how are the tides generated on a Flat Earth?
You are correct, but he did not ask for proof, he asked for a way to prove it through some sort of experiment.  Also if the earth was flat, tides could be caused my many things, such as the gravitational pull of the moon, the rotation of the earth would still cause tides.  Just something to think about.


There's an established experiment that's been repeated and the results confirmed. The experiment involves two telescopes pointing at the same star. One telescope is filled with water to slow the speed of light. The result is that no adjustment to the angle of the "aquascope" is required to keep the target star in view and centered.

This experiment was first performed by George Biddell Airy in 1871 and proves without a reasonable doubt that the Earth is stationary and motionless; the stars orbit above.

So no, the Earth's rotation doesn't cause the tides; Earth doesn't rotate.


Reference:

Proceedings of the Royal Society of London

Airy, G. B. (1871). "On the Supposed Alteration in the Amount of Astronomical Aberration of Light, Produced by the Passage of the Light through a Considerable Thickness of Refracting Medium"

George Biddell Airy

Proc. R. Soc. Lond. 1871 20, 35-39, published 1
January 1871
 

http://rspl.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/20/130-138/35.full.pdf

What is subject to reasonable doubt is your (false) interpretation of this experiment.  The only thing the experiment shows is there is no aether drag.  That's it.  What others have argued is that it's proof of a *geocentric* Earth, not a flat one, although this interpretation is also flawed.

So...

1) The experiment shows there is no aether drag (true).

2) The experiment, no matter how you spin it, says nothing about the shape of the earth.

3) One could make the (flawed) interpretation that the Earth is geocentric and that the aether doesn't move with respect to the earth. The problem with this interpretation is that it fails to explain stellar abberation.  To explain stellar abberation in this case, every single star would need it's own unique formula for determining the amount of abberation we observe.

...Or, instead, we posit the earth isn't geocentric and that it moves, which then perfectly explains all observable stellar abberation.  It's the simpler (and correct) explanation.

The stars are in motion about the Earth and the fact that when the speed of their light is reduced no change in angle of the "aquascope" is required is hard proof. Aberration is the attempted game of semantics explanation proponents of the heliocentric spinning globe earth lie put forward. It's not some phenomenon that needs to be explained, it's their lame excuse for what's actually observed.
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April 13, 2016, 06:46:45 AM
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The tides...tell me how are the tides generated on a Flat Earth?
The tides...tell me how are the tides generated on your imaginary spinning wobbling, dancing globe?

It is proven the Moon (a cooling light in the sky) has got absolutely nothing to do with it.
After all tides happen at opposite end of the globe at the same time.
There can be no colleration found between high or low tides and the Moon.
Lakes are not affected by it which means it is some Electro Magnetic force pulling the salty water more and or less near the North pol.

No.  Lakes have tides, too.  You can measure it.

And the reason for a high tide on the side of Earth opposite the moon is because the centrifugal force of the moon-earth system is greater than the gravitational pull of the moon.  So, bodies of water experience high tide when they both face towards and away from the moon.

Wow you mean the tides on lakes are so huge you actually can measure it.

Your fantasy word, first of all Moon is never over the north pol, tides are more prominent further north


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m97ZIsmQ7XY&t=16m10s
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April 13, 2016, 07:02:51 AM
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Flat earth heehe your so funny. The shape of earth is sphere.
God create earth in the bible the true shape is circle but in the scientist say sphere.
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April 13, 2016, 12:09:37 PM
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The tides...tell me how are the tides generated on a Flat Earth?
You are correct, but he did not ask for proof, he asked for a way to prove it through some sort of experiment.  Also if the earth was flat, tides could be caused my many things, such as the gravitational pull of the moon, the rotation of the earth would still cause tides.  Just something to think about.


There's an established experiment that's been repeated and the results confirmed. The experiment involves two telescopes pointing at the same star. One telescope is filled with water to slow the speed of light. The result is that no adjustment to the angle of the "aquascope" is required to keep the target star in view and centered.

This experiment was first performed by George Biddell Airy in 1871 and proves without a reasonable doubt that the Earth is stationary and motionless; the stars orbit above.

So no, the Earth's rotation doesn't cause the tides; Earth doesn't rotate.


Reference:

Proceedings of the Royal Society of London

Airy, G. B. (1871). "On the Supposed Alteration in the Amount of Astronomical Aberration of Light, Produced by the Passage of the Light through a Considerable Thickness of Refracting Medium"

George Biddell Airy

Proc. R. Soc. Lond. 1871 20, 35-39, published 1
January 1871
 

http://rspl.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/20/130-138/35.full.pdf

What is subject to reasonable doubt is your (false) interpretation of this experiment.  The only thing the experiment shows is there is no aether drag.  That's it.  What others have argued is that it's proof of a *geocentric* Earth, not a flat one, although this interpretation is also flawed.

So...

1) The experiment shows there is no aether drag (true).

2) The experiment, no matter how you spin it, says nothing about the shape of the earth.

3) One could make the (flawed) interpretation that the Earth is geocentric and that the aether doesn't move with respect to the earth. The problem with this interpretation is that it fails to explain stellar abberation.  To explain stellar abberation in this case, every single star would need it's own unique formula for determining the amount of abberation we observe.

...Or, instead, we posit the earth isn't geocentric and that it moves, which then perfectly explains all observable stellar abberation.  It's the simpler (and correct) explanation.

The stars are in motion about the Earth and the fact that when the speed of their light is reduced no change in angle of the "aquascope" is required is hard proof. Aberration is the attempted game of semantics explanation proponents of the heliocentric spinning globe earth lie put forward. It's not some phenomenon that needs to be explained, it's their lame excuse for what's actually observed.

Of course stellar abberation needs explanation.  A geocentric earth plus an unmoving aether doesn't explain the parallax that we see.  But, not only does a heliocentric earth explain stellar abberation, it helps us *predict* parallax for thousands of stars. If instead you keep to the idea of a geocentric earth and someone asks you to explain -- or better yet, predict -- parallax, then you won't have any explanation for them.
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April 13, 2016, 04:00:57 PM
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The tides...tell me how are the tides generated on a Flat Earth?
The tides...tell me how are the tides generated on your imaginary spinning wobbling, dancing globe?

It is proven the Moon (a cooling light in the sky) has got absolutely nothing to do with it.
After all tides happen at opposite end of the globe at the same time.
There can be no colleration found between high or low tides and the Moon.
Lakes are not affected by it which means it is some Electro Magnetic force pulling the salty water more and or less near the North pol.

No.  Lakes have tides, too.  You can measure it.

And the reason for a high tide on the side of Earth opposite the moon is because the centrifugal force of the moon-earth system is greater than the gravitational pull of the moon.  So, bodies of water experience high tide when they both face towards and away from the moon.

Wow you mean the tides on lakes are so huge you actually can measure it.

Your fantasy word, first of all Moon is never over the north pol, tides are more prominent further north


More here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m97ZIsmQ7XY&t=16m10s

1) Yes, lakes have tides.  Yes, you can measure them, just as they have been measured previously.

2) No, tides are not uniformly greater at increasingly greater latitude.  In some places they are, and in some places they aren't.  In addition to gravity and centrifugal force, tides also vary according to water depth, topography, coastlines, and a bunch of other factors.
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April 14, 2016, 08:46:59 PM
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Sun & Moon above the Flat Earth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AaLoiWUkkU&t=6m52s
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April 15, 2016, 12:04:25 AM
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Start from a point A and head towards North and just start walking/riding/flying with no directional change . You will someday reach at the same point A if you have got enough fuel for this cruise .
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April 15, 2016, 12:22:57 AM
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Start from a point A and head towards North and just start walking/riding/flying with no directional change . You will someday reach at the same point A if you have got enough fuel for this cruise .

Two questions.

1) How will you know you haven't changed direction? At some point you'll have to step around a tree or building

2) What would that prove?

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April 15, 2016, 01:05:03 AM
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If our earth is flat then what about all of the other spherical planets we can see with our telescopes?
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April 15, 2016, 03:00:11 AM
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If our earth is flat then what about all of the other spherical planets we can see with our telescopes?

Spherical planets? Those are just paintings on the inside of the dome.

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April 15, 2016, 03:06:06 AM
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If our earth is flat then what about all of the other spherical planets we can see with our telescopes?

Spherical planets? Those are just paintings on the inside of the dome.

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Let me guess. Some dude named Atlas rotates the dome.

FWIW: Somewhere in Houston, there's a domed dish inside a dome home that one day may be covered by a dome over Houston to protect it from climate change due to the Earth being enclosed under a dome.


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April 15, 2016, 03:18:17 PM
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Is this supposed to be convincing or something?
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April 16, 2016, 12:52:30 AM
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If our earth is flat then what about all of the other spherical planets we can see with our telescopes?

Spherical planets? Those are just paintings on the inside of the dome.

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Lol, how about lot of photos of planets from space that was made by space satellites?
I can't understand did your really belvie that Earth is not geoid?

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April 16, 2016, 12:54:44 PM
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Yea, babylon i know it!

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April 16, 2016, 01:31:51 PM
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Things you can do to prove the Earth is Round>
1. get in an airplane and fly West and keep flying west.
2. get in a Boat and sail away from the shore and watch the shore line and the mountains behind.
the shore line (beach) will disappear first but you will still be able to see the mountains. If the world was flat this would not happen.
3. Go to a tall mountain with a unobstructed view on a clear day. You can see the curve of the earth.
4. Go visit the International Space Station
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