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September 07, 2016, 08:30:41 PM
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How do Flat-Earthers explain the opposite direction of water exiting through a drain in the north and south hemishperes?
Lol, you gulp up absolute everything. This is one of the oldest carnival tricks used.
Water has memory, which ever way you make it spin filling the sink is the way it will drain.
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September 07, 2016, 08:50:53 PM
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How do Flat-Earthers explain the opposite direction of water exiting through a drain in the north and south hemishperes?
Lol, you gulp up absolute everything. This is one of the oldest carnival tricks used.
Water has memory, which ever way you make it spin filling the sink is the way it will drain.

LOL!!!  water has memory.. please post the youtube video where you learned this I need a good laugh.



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September 07, 2016, 09:03:32 PM
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If allowed to fight with anyone who preaches atheism and obscurantism is why we defend the truth about the Flat Earth? Is there something in common.
Today, people already know that the moon - this is not a piece of cheese and a playful deity, and our satellite phenomenon is well explained by modern science.
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September 07, 2016, 09:19:38 PM
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How do Flat-Earthers explain the opposite direction of water exiting through a drain in the north and south hemishperes?
Lol, you gulp up absolute everything. This is one of the oldest carnival tricks used.
Water has memory, which ever way you make it spin filling the sink is the way it will drain.

That makes sense since our brains are made up of how much percent water?
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September 07, 2016, 09:31:34 PM
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How do Flat-Earthers explain the opposite direction of water exiting through a drain in the north and south hemishperes?
Lol, you gulp up absolute everything. This is one of the oldest carnival tricks used.
Water has memory, which ever way you make it spin filling the sink is the way it will drain.

That makes sense since our brains are made up of how much percent water?
I also talked about the amount of water, but also argued that if the earth was round the water poured out into nowhere. This is really nonsense.
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September 07, 2016, 09:51:45 PM
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You don't have to trust 3rd party information from the Operation Paperclip folks at NASA, there's experiments that you can do yourself!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMzIh0FMEQM
Why Gyroscopes Proves the Flat Earth 2016
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September 07, 2016, 11:03:50 PM
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You don't have to trust 3rd party information from the Operation Paperclip folks at NASA, there's experiments that you can do yourself!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMzIh0FMEQM
Why Gyroscopes Proves the Flat Earth 2016

If the world is flat explain why a ship that is sailing off into the ocean disappears from bottom to the top. or why when you are high up you can plainly see the curvature of the earth?


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September 08, 2016, 04:03:06 AM
Last edit: September 08, 2016, 05:30:19 AM by nomad13666
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You don't have to trust 3rd party information from the Operation Paperclip folks at NASA, there's experiments that you can do yourself!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMzIh0FMEQM
Why Gyroscopes Proves the Flat Earth 2016

If the world is flat explain why a ship that is sailing off into the ocean disappears from bottom to the top. or why when you are high up you can plainly see the curvature of the earth?

lol you must be the new guy  Cheesy

Read back a few pages and all your questions should be answered.

I don't think there's anything about flat earth knowledge that hasn't already been presented and discussed in this thread.

Try this too:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%22flat+earth%22

And this:
http://ifers.123.st

Here, I'll even go a step further and type in the search terms for you.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=flat+earth+ships+horizon
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=flat+earth+no+curvature+high+altitude

Now go do some research. And have a good day.

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September 08, 2016, 08:26:00 AM
Last edit: September 08, 2016, 03:10:43 PM by notbatman
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMzIh0FMEQM
Why Gyroscopes Proves the Flat Earth 2016

This proves nothing, other than the physical mechanics in the gyroscope are too small to be affected by the rotation of the Earth through space. Physics is working as intended.

The inertial frame is too small to be measured.

Read back a few pages and all your questions should be answered.
I don't think there's anything about flat earth knowledge that hasn't already been presented and discussed debunked in this thread.

Fixed that for you.

A little bit esoteric, but I recommend https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagnac_effect for further reading.

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In 1926, an ambitious ring interferometry experiment was set up by Albert Michelson and Henry Gale. The aim was to find out whether the rotation of the Earth has an effect on the propagation of light in the vicinity of the Earth. The Michelson–Gale–Pearson experiment was a very large ring interferometer, (a perimeter of 1.9 kilometer), large enough to detect the angular velocity of the Earth. The outcome of the experiment was that the angular velocity of the Earth as measured by astronomy was confirmed to within measuring accuracy. The ring interferometer of the Michelson-Gale experiment was not calibrated by comparison with an outside reference (which was not possible, because the setup was fixed to the Earth). From its design it could be deduced where the central interference fringe ought to be if there would be zero shift. The measured shift was 230 parts in 1000, with an accuracy of 5 parts in 1000. The predicted shift was 237 parts in 1000.[11]

You're saying a gyroscope can't detect the Earth's rotation because it's too small? This is a load of bullshit, the Earth doesn't rotate and the gyroscope proves it. The Airy's Failure experiment is peer reviewed and replicated and also proves the Earth doesn't rotate.


As for the Sagnac effect it proves the existence of the æther and the M&M experiment proves the Earth is motionless in this æther.

There you have it, three absolutely rock solid empirical proofs that the Earth does not rotate; gyroscopes,  Airy's Failure Experiment and the Michelson & Morley Experiment.

Some icing on top of that, the Sun would be overhead at midnight every ~180 days if the Earth rotated 360 degrees every 24 hours.
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September 08, 2016, 10:40:29 AM
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You're saying a gyroscope can't detect the Earth's rotation because it's too small? This is a load of bullshit, the Earth doesn't rotate and the gyroscope proves it.

Why is it bullshit ? Because you say so ? Might it be because of your failure to understand celestial mechanics ?

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You're claiming Earth rotates but that it's a magical celestial rotation that doesn't effect gyroscopes? Go smoke another rock, I've provided hard evidence that there's no rotation.
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September 08, 2016, 03:49:13 PM
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Plan a flight route that always flys the same directions on your compass. For example East. Then keep flying in that direction until you end up at your starting point.
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September 08, 2016, 04:08:53 PM
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Why Gyroscopes Proves the Flat Earth 2016

This proves nothing, other than the physical mechanics in the gyroscope are too small to be affected by the rotation of the Earth through space. Physics is working as intended.

The inertial frame is too small to be measured.
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A little bit esoteric, but I recommend https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagnac_effect for further reading.

You're claiming Earth rotates but that it's a magical celestial rotation that doesn't effect gyroscopes? Go smoke another rock, I've provided hard evidence that there's no rotation.

No he is saying is that is that you cannot measure the rotation of the earth using small children's toy's. They are not a sensitive enough instrument.

It is possible to build a gyroscope that measures the rotation in real time but that is something of an undertaking.

http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2011/oct/28/laser-gyroscope-measures-the-earths-wobble

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A ring laser uses two single-mode laser beams that propagate around a closed laser cavity in opposing directions. If a ring laser is rotating, the two opposing waves are slightly shifted in frequency and a beat interference pattern is observed, which is proportional to the rate of rotation...

Thanks to the sensitivity and stability of large ring laser gyroscope, the team were able to directly measure the combined effect of the Chandler and the annual wobble of the freely rotating Earth. Their measured data was in excellent agreement with the independent measurements by using the astronomical method.


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September 08, 2016, 05:16:46 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMzIh0FMEQM
Why Gyroscopes Proves the Flat Earth 2016

This proves nothing, other than the physical mechanics in the gyroscope are too small to be affected by the rotation of the Earth through space. Physics is working as intended.

The inertial frame is too small to be measured.
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A little bit esoteric, but I recommend https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagnac_effect for further reading.

You're claiming Earth rotates but that it's a magical celestial rotation that doesn't effect gyroscopes? Go smoke another rock, I've provided hard evidence that there's no rotation.

No he is saying is that is that you cannot measure the rotation of the earth using small children's toy's. They are not a sensitive enough instrument.

It is possible to build a gyroscope that measures the rotation in real time but that is something of an undertaking.

http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2011/oct/28/laser-gyroscope-measures-the-earths-wobble

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A ring laser uses two single-mode laser beams that propagate around a closed laser cavity in opposing directions. If a ring laser is rotating, the two opposing waves are slightly shifted in frequency and a beat interference pattern is observed, which is proportional to the rate of rotation...

Thanks to the sensitivity and stability of large ring laser gyroscope, the team were able to directly measure the combined effect of the Chandler and the annual wobble of the freely rotating Earth. Their measured data was in excellent agreement with the independent measurements by using the astronomical method.



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... children's toy's. They are not a sensitive enough ...

That's a lot of bullshit, that was a precision crafted gyroscope.

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... It is possible to build a gyroscope that measures the rotation ...
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... A ring laser uses two single-mode laser beams ...

You're implying that solid state gyroscopes such as the ring laser are the only kind suitable for testing if the Earth rotates, that's also a lot of bullshit. The experiment you're showcasing is purportedly to measure some subtle variation in Earth's so-called rotation. This is overkill for the simple task of testing for the presence of rotation.

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... agreement with the independent measurements by using the astronomical method ...

Of course their bullshit scientific experiment (that no individual can afford to replicate) is in agreement with the "astronomical method", the stars are in motion above the Earth and Airy's Failure Experiment proves this beyond a reasonable doubt.
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September 08, 2016, 05:17:09 PM
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The idea of ​​a flat earth has long offered a John Hamden, the author proves that the Earth is in fact - a flat disc.
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September 08, 2016, 05:22:29 PM
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Plan a flight route that always flys the same directions on your compass. For example East. Then keep flying in that direction until you end up at your starting point.

The Earth is a flat disk (like the pizza pie) and the compass needle always points to the center (north). This being so, if you travel east or west you will eventually travel in a circle.
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September 08, 2016, 05:48:08 PM
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Plan a flight route that always flys the same directions on your compass. For example East. Then keep flying in that direction until you end up at your starting point.

The Earth is a flat disk (like the pizza pie) and the compass needle always points to the center (north). This being so, if you travel east or west you will eventually travel in a circle.
We do not have to resort to complex formulas to dispel the theory of a flat plot of land. Just look around and check ten times: the Earth definitely inevitable, completely and absolutely not flat at 100%.
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September 08, 2016, 06:16:04 PM
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Plan a flight route that always flys the same directions on your compass. For example East. Then keep flying in that direction until you end up at your starting point.

The Earth is a flat disk (like the pizza pie) and the compass needle always points to the center (north). This being so, if you travel east or west you will eventually travel in a circle.

And again, here we have the claim that, despite all of the cutting edge technology available to us, not a single person has ever figured out how to travel in a straight line.
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September 08, 2016, 06:20:14 PM
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Plan a flight route that always flys the same directions on your compass. For example East. Then keep flying in that direction until you end up at your starting point.

The Earth is a flat disk (like the pizza pie) and the compass needle always points to the center (north). This being so, if you travel east or west you will eventually travel in a circle.
We do not have to resort to complex formulas to dispel the theory of a flat plot of land. Just look around and check ten times: the Earth definitely inevitable, completely and absolutely not flat at 100%.
Equally obvious truth is that the Earth, like the rest of the body large enough space is shaped like a ball, we are not questioned. Although religious tales continue fooling adherents of religious belief, the allegations that the Earth is a flat disc
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September 08, 2016, 06:32:07 PM
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No he is saying is that is that you cannot measure the rotation of the earth using small children's toy's. They are not a sensitive enough instrument.

It is possible to build a gyroscope that measures the rotation in real time but that is something of an undertaking.

http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2011/oct/28/laser-gyroscope-measures-the-earths-wobble


You're implying that solid state gyroscopes such as the ring laser are the only kind suitable for testing if the Earth rotates, that's also a lot of bullshit. The experiment you're showcasing is purportedly to measure some subtle variation in Earth's so-called rotation. This is overkill for the simple task of testing for the presence of rotation.

I agree that this modern experiment I highlighted above is an overkill for the simple task of testing for the presence of rotation. Science has long moved passed that and is now measuring the small variations that occur in this rotation. BobLawblaw above already highlighted the Michelson-Gale experiment done almost a hundred years ago which tackled the simpler task of measuring the angular velocity of the Earth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelson%E2%80%93Gale%E2%80%93Pearson_experiment

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The Michelson-Gale experiment was a very large ring interferometer, (a perimeter of 1.9 kilometer), large enough to detect the angular velocity of the Earth. The Michelson-Gale-Pearson version compared the light from a single source (carbon arc) after travelling in two directions. Light was sent into the rectangles, reflecting off mirrors at the corners, and returned to the starting point. Light exiting the two rectangles was compared on a screen just as the light returning from the two arms. The expected fringe shift in accordance with the stationary aether and special relativity ...In other words, this experiment was aimed to detect the Sagnac effect due to Earth's rotation.
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The outcome of the experiment was that the angular velocity of the Earth as measured by astronomy was confirmed to within measuring accuracy.

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September 08, 2016, 07:14:28 PM
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The fact that the earth is round, it was known long before the birth of Christ, for example from the book of Isaiah EC. [40: 22] Or from the book of Ezra. [3 Ezd.11: 32] But about the fact that the earth is flat on three stalactites is mentioned in the Bible: Iov.9 6 Shifts earth from its place, and shake its pillars; or Isaiah 24:18. Many do not match.
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