Flat Earth

[notbatman]

^^^ Relativistic gravity died in 1939 at the University of Paris. The chain of events set in motion by the 1887 M&M experiment ended in 1939 when Dufour and Prunier falsified Einstein's 1905 relativistic theory.

You've got no argument, you can't provide scientific proof for the existence of "outer space" and gravity has been debunked via experiment. A pressure gradient is not possible in a vacuum without a container!

Your argument is moot.

[BADecker]

^^^ Since what you say has nothing to do with the fact that the atmosphere diminishes as we travel higher - you pointed to my post about this - but instead you are using it to distract from the point of atmospheric rarification, you have essentially defaulted to globe earth.

[notbatman]

^^^ The atmosphere is in layers, this is apparent looking at the bottoms of clouds. I described the process of separation of material into different density layers according to Coulomb's Law. You can't say that has no effect on pressure because density is directly proportional to pressure and indirectly proportional to temperature as per Gas Law.

Flat Earth is the default, the theory is that the surface of the flat Earth curves into a globe just beyond the limits of human vision. This claim that surface of the flat Earth curves is absolutely and completely debunked with modern optics like the Nikon P900.

Relativistic gravity was falsified in 1939, you've got absolutely nothing.

[neitoncoop]

In my opinion, the Earth is not round, and not flat. There is also an inner Earth. Entrance to the inner Earth at the poles. This is much more complicated than it seems to us, and than we can understand now. In addition, we don't know much, because not all information is available to us.

[BADecker]

^^^ The atmosphere is in layers, this is apparent looking at the bottoms of clouds. I described the process of separation of material into different density layers according to Coulomb's Law. You can't say that has no effect on pressure because density is directly proportional to pressure and indirectly proportional to temperature as per Gas Law.

Flat Earth is the default, the theory is that the surface of the flat Earth curves into a globe just beyond the limits of human vision. This claim that surface of the flat Earth curves is absolutely and completely debunked with modern optics like the Nikon P900.

Relativistic gravity was falsified in 1939, you've got absolutely nothing.

Turbulence, and layers moving in different directions, only show more divisions between the vacuum and the thick air. The tops of the layers are more rarefied than the bottoms of the layers. The top layers are more rarefied than the bottom layers. All kinds of aircraft have proven this. So, there absolutely is the atmosphere division of a vacuum from a non-vacuum.

Since you know this, you jump into the faulty camera theory to try to distract from the fact that the atmosphere is a division between vacuum and no vacuum.

But faulty camera theory wasn't enough. You try to equate gravity theory with gravity, thereby destroying gravity because some gravity theory might be wrong. You can't get it through your head. Gravity and gravity theory are two different things. People have known and used gravity for thousands of years. Gravity theory has only been around for several hundred.

Now let me show you that gravity theory is right... even relativistic gravity theory. What makes it right is in the word "theory." Even science theory shows that the science involved can be changed according to new findings, and that the particular science involved is not known to be accurate. How is this shown? By the word "theory." So, relativistic gravity theory is right because it says that its own ideas about gravity are not known to be right.

In other words, gravity theory is right by saying that it is not known to be right. How does it say this? By being a theory.

But all this is a distraction that you are using to avoid the idea that there is a separation between vacuum and non-vacuum... the atmosphere. And atmosphere is as it is because of gravity, not gravity theory. Centrifugal force in a centrifuge shows that density works as it does by a force being applied to materials, not because density is the property that we call gravity.

All your blabber destroys your FE ideas.

[notbatman]

^^^ Centrifugal force is fictitious, centripetal force is the real force.

[BADecker]

^^^ Why thank you. It's always nice when you show us that something fictitious conquers your silly ideas of flat Earth.

[notbatman]

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[BADecker]

^^^ How much have you made with snake oil aka flat earth? Certainly not $25 billion.

[TMaster0nion]

Can't believe I'm reading this

[Cryptotourist]

^. Hey, I've started using drugs again, to get me through this page.

[hornetsnest]

Any update?

[notbatman]

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[BADecker]

^^^ Except that when you use a transit from a mountain top with a known height, and focus on two known heights on opposite sides of the mountain, at known distances away, you can calculate the curve.

[notbatman]

^^^ You'd likely be calculating barrel distortion, refraction causes atmospheric lensing to occur as some atmospheric layers have a high index of refraction even at greater altitudes.

I mean seriously dude, you want to claim that the flat earth curves beyond the limits of the human eye but, then you reject footage of the flat earth from super-zoom cameras that can see far beyond the limits of the human eye. You reject something anybody can confirm with modern technology for untrustworthy and biased 3rd party evidence, evidence that uses proprietary optics to look at objects in the sky that, they claim are trillions of miles away through a fluid atmosphere.

I'm calling you out on your bullshit, the earth is flat and pointing up at the sky is a distraction tactic.

[Cryptotourist]

~ and pointing up at the sky is a distraction tactic.

I'm sorry for your loss.

[hornetsnest]

~ and pointing up at the sky is a distraction tactic.

I'm sorry for your loss.

[BADecker]

^^^ You'd likely be calculating barrel distortion, refraction causes atmospheric lensing to occur as some atmospheric layers have a high index of refraction even at greater altitudes.

I mean seriously dude, you want to claim that the flat earth curves beyond the limits of the human eye but, then you reject footage of the flat earth from super-zoom cameras that can see far beyond the limits of the human eye. You reject something anybody can confirm with modern technology for untrustworthy and biased 3rd party evidence, evidence that uses proprietary optics to look at objects in the sky that, they claim are trillions of miles away through a fluid atmosphere.

I'm calling you out on your bullshit, the earth is flat and pointing up at the sky is a distraction tactic.

Hey, thanks. That's all I really needed, the admittance from you that all your camera talk and eyeball measurements aren't worth anything... including M&M, and all the rest of the measurements you FE jokers make through the atmosphere.

So, since you claim that you don't have any way to measure FE, why do you think that it exists? Oh, yeah. I know. 'Cause all the stuff that works for you to prove FE, doesn't work for anybody else when they are proving GE.

Thanks, again.

You got the Power, right?

[notbatman]

^^^ Weather permitting i.e. a cool, clear, dry day with little to no atmospheric refraction, the minimum distance to the horizon can be measured and documented accurately with a large margin of error using a landmark of known distance, all with a consumer grade super-zoom camera.

All sorts of measurements can be made, such blatant gate-keeping on your part.

It looks to me like the miniaturization of optical sensors and the mass production of high quality lenses is having as much, or more of a revolutionary effect as the miniaturization of computers.

[BADecker]

^^^ We can use a camera on the transit on the mountain. The mountain doesn't have to be high. Notice how you can see much farther in every direction from the top of the mountain. Flat doesn't fit the measurements on the mountain.