[CLOSED] S.DICE - SatoshiDICE 100% Dividend-Paying Asset on MPEx

[molecular]

Wait, so a DDOS attack is a "hack" now?

It seemed like a hack to me for a while because of the redirect I didn't know was put in by Mircea.

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[poly]

Take this as a sort of security drill: MPEx is untouchable.

uh huh...  whatever you say, kid.

Redirecting DDoS traffic to a government site is poetry.

Redirect or DNS change? I don't think dos-bots follow redirects.

Yeah, unless the DDoS consisted of an iframe and a timer it didn't really serve any purpose other than the lol factor. I'm surprised how MPOE prices haven't being affected much, but that's pretty offtopic so I'll stop here :)

[molecular]

Take this as a sort of security drill: MPEx is untouchable.

uh huh...  whatever you say, kid.

Redirecting DDoS traffic to a government site is poetry.

Redirect or DNS change? I don't think dos-bots follow redirects.

Yeah, unless the DDoS consisted of an iframe and a timer it didn't really serve any purpose other than the lol factor. I'm surprised how MPOE prices haven't being affected much, but that's pretty offtopic so I'll stop here

the exchange has quite a sound security concept. People know that.

[StarenseN]

Just people dealing with the problems of liquidity in this market... 30 BTC hit

I'm going to wait another 30 days before I decide how I feel about it though

Actually it can be 24 23, see my signature...

Edit: I lowered to 23BTC

[Peter Lambert]

Just people dealing with the problems of liquidity in this market... 30 BTC hit

I'm going to wait another 30 days before I decide how I feel about it though

Actually it can be 24 23, see my signature...

Edit: I lowered to 23BTC

I thought he was referring to the price of 30 USD per bitcoin being hit, not that it takes a 30 btc hit to use the exchange, now I am not sure which he was referring to?

[nebulus]

I suggest sdice be moved to a more secure exchange.

+1

++1  BTC-TC

Lawl

[romerun]

30btc makes sense when it was $5

[Peter Lambert]

30btc makes sense when it was $5

MPEx has stated on several occasions that the entry price is only going to go up. It already went from 20 btc to 30 btc. How much does it cost to get a seat on the NYSE?

[FTWbitcoinFTW]

30btc makes sense when it was $5

MPEx has stated on several occasions that the entry price is only going to go up. It already went from 20 btc to 30 btc. How much does it cost to get a seat on the NYSE?

how many times NYSE was DDoS or deface ?

[romerun]

30btc makes sense when it was $5

MPEx has stated on several occasions that the entry price is only going to go up. It already went from 20 btc to 30 btc. How much does it cost to get a seat on the NYSE?

*YAWN*

[MPOE-PR]

Take this as a sort of security drill: MPEx is untouchable.

uh huh...  whatever you say, kid.

Redirecting DDoS traffic to a government site is poetry.

They hit it too, for maybe half a minute. It was just about to turn into a lot more than poetry, but someone somehow had the idea of checking (probably looking to see if it domain answers - and it did). To quote,

Mar 07 00:35:37 <Bugpowder>   is that going to redirect the ddos to wh?
Mar 07 00:35:41 <Bugpowder>   no right?
Mar 07 00:35:52 <mircea_popescu>   i imagine yes.
Mar 07 00:36:01 <jurov>   mpex.co -> http://www.whitehouse.gov LMAO
Mar 07 00:36:22 <mircea_popescu>   i figure i got a 1% shot of making us national news.
Mar 07 00:36:26 <Bugpowder>   heh
Mar 07 00:36:36 <Bugpowder>   its a very clever idea
Mar 07 00:36:43 <mod6>   lol, that actually worked.
Mar 07 00:37:03 <mod6>   WE GET SIGNAL

Must have pissed off Anonymous somehow.  Everyone knows that they are responsible for all hacks.

HACK THE PLANET

Its more likely to be Something Awful who hacked it. Because MP was an idiot and challenged them.

Wait, so a DDOS attack is a "hack" now?

Please go to http://mpex.coinbr.com, a web proxy to the MPEx backend, and tell me if it's been "hacked".

It's like someone DDoSING NYSE's website and then claiming they shut down the exchange.

I must say this thread's been pretty entertaining so far.

Redirect or DNS change? I don't think dos-bots follow redirects.

It was dns change. This was a real ddos, it took out routing infrastructure not cpus. Consequently a "redirect" would have never gotten talked to in the first place.

Yeah, unless the DDoS consisted of an iframe and a timer it didn't really serve any purpose other than the lol factor. I'm surprised how MPOE prices haven't being affected much, but that's pretty offtopic so I'll stop here

The attack consisted of more bw than the aggregate consumption of all Bitcoin services for a month, except dished out during a day. Notably, it wasn't nearly as large as the January one (which you haven't heard about - also notably) but it was a lot more intelligently deployed. By the time the WH dns change came about the attacker and the techs had been playing cat-and-mouse for hours already. In non-tech terms it was a game of flip the potato here's suddenly a hand grenade.

30btc makes sense when it was $5

MPEx has stated on several occasions that the entry price is only going to go up. It already went from 20 btc to 30 btc. How much does it cost to get a seat on the NYSE?

how many times NYSE was DDoS or deface ?

Roughly speaking five hundred times so far.

[miscreanity]

Redirecting DDoS traffic to a government site is poetry.

They hit it too, for maybe half a minute. It was just about to turn into a lot more than poetry, but someone somehow had the idea of checking (probably looking to see if it domain answers - and it did). To quote,

Mar 07 00:35:37 <Bugpowder>   is that going to redirect the ddos to wh?
Mar 07 00:35:41 <Bugpowder>   no right?
Mar 07 00:35:52 <mircea_popescu>   i imagine yes.
Mar 07 00:36:01 <jurov>   mpex.co -> http://www.whitehouse.gov LMAO
Mar 07 00:36:22 <mircea_popescu>   i figure i got a 1% shot of making us national news.
Mar 07 00:36:26 <Bugpowder>   heh
Mar 07 00:36:36 <Bugpowder>   its a very clever idea
Mar 07 00:36:43 <mod6>   lol, that actually worked.
Mar 07 00:37:03 <mod6>   WE GET SIGNAL

Please tell me this full-of-win practice is going to be standard operating procedure from now on.

[vampire]

Well looks like MPEX is out for quiet awhile. All proxies are down, CoinBR is down also.

S.DICE will probably go below the IPO price.
 

[Peter Lambert]

Well looks like MPEX is out for quiet awhile. All proxies are down, CoinBR is down also.

S.DICE will probably go below the IPO price.
 

Why does the exchange being temporarily offline affect the share price of satoshidice? It does not affect the amount of dividend next month at all. (And I sure hope MPEx will be back up and running before the end of the month!)

You could check the pass-throughs on BTCT and BitFunder, the price seems pretty stable at the moment.

[vampire]

Well looks like MPEX is out for quiet awhile. All proxies are down, CoinBR is down also.

S.DICE will probably go below the IPO price.
 

Why does the exchange being temporarily offline affect the share price of satoshidice? It does not affect the amount of dividend next month at all. (And I sure hope MPEx will be back up and running before the end of the month!)

You could check the pass-throughs on BTCT and BitFunder, the price seems pretty stable at the moment.

I dont think mpex is up at all.

[misterbigg]

...

Despite our forum clashes, I humbly and with goodwill ask:

Would you mind de-listing S.DICE temporarily to encourage shareholders to put pressure on the site operators to stop taking advantage of the block chain during this critical stage of Bitcoin growth? I know this might go against your short term financial interests but really if you stop to think about it, the "startup capital" of the Bitcoin network (gmaxwell's terminology for the currently unused space in each block) is going to unproductive activity which does not grow the Bitcoin economy.

If nothing is done about SD transaction spam (economically unspendable outputs which can't be pruned), transaction fees will be driven higher and every miner will bear the cost of forever storing these unprunable tx in their copies of the blockchain. In the long run, increased fees are not a problem but at the early stage we are in, it could dampen Bitcoin adoption or possibly kill it.

[Fizzgig]

...

Despite our forum clashes, I humbly and with goodwill ask:

Would you mind de-listing S.DICE temporarily to encourage shareholders to put pressure on the site operators to stop taking advantage of the block chain during this critical stage of Bitcoin growth? I know this might go against your short term financial interests but really if you stop to think about it, the "startup capital" of the Bitcoin network (gmaxwell's terminology for the currently unused space in each block) is going to unproductive activity which does not grow the Bitcoin economy.

If nothing is done about SD transaction spam (economically unspendable outputs which can't be pruned), transaction fees will be driven higher and every miner will bear the cost of forever storing these unprunable tx in their copies of the blockchain. In the long run, increased fees are not a problem but at the early stage we are in, it could dampen Bitcoin adoption or possibly kill it.

But then the miners won't get all those juicy SD fees. Think of the miners, they have starving children in need of bread and water. Don't you love children you cold bastard?

[JordanL]

Does anyone know where I can find the most recent update on this situation?

Was MPEX.co really hacked (I read somewhere that it was redirecting to whitehouse.gov), or is it just a prolonged DDOS attack?

[Deprived]

Does anyone know where I can find the most recent update on this situation?

Was MPEX.co really hacked (I read somewhere that it was redirecting to whitehouse.gov), or is it just a prolonged DDOS attack?

Most recent information you'll find on here is at the link below:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138956.msg1598165#msg1598165

[MPOE-PR]

The crash comes just months after a computer meltdown that left millions of customers unable to withdraw cash.

People claimed that they had been left stranded, hungry and embarrassed as they were unable to access their own money and had their cards declined.

Stephen Hester, the chief executive of RBS, which is 80% state-owned, was forced to apologise last June after millions of customers were left unable to view an up-to-date balance, move money or pay bills for days after a software update.

Source.