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Proof of Bitcoin Node (PoBN) needs to have some way to allow people to run the version of Bitcoin core they want to run - imo
Georgem mentioned this as a question and a few other related issues, a day or two ago.
It was a brief passing comment - but it only really hit me yesterday how big of an issue this is.
Yeah, in no way can we force people to download and run a certain bitcoin version. This would take away all their "voting power" and would be a horrible centralization we impose on the community. So the "proof" that a servicenode runs a bitcoin node must basically allow a fork to happen, if it has to come to that. So checking that the a bitcoin node is installed (and is constantly running) must happen not by crosschecking it with some master-bitcoinnode, but differently.
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August 20, 2015, 08:49:36 AM |
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Proof of Bitcoin Node (PoBN) needs to have some way to allow people to run the version of Bitcoin core they want to run - imo
Georgem mentioned this as a question and a few other related issues, a day or two ago.
It was a brief passing comment - but it only really hit me yesterday how big of an issue this is.
Yeah, in no way can we force people to download and run a certain bitcoin version. This would take away all their "voting power" and would be a horrible centralization we impose on the community. So the "proof" that a servicenode runs a bitcoin node must basically allow a fork to happen, if it has to come to that. So checking that the a bitcoin node is installed (and is constantly running) must happen not by crosschecking it with some master-bitcoinnode, but differently. just use the check for node version it will state if its XT or not then double check with both networks of any node on the Pobn network is connected via XT
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August 20, 2015, 10:26:11 AM |
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just use the check for node version it will state if its XT or not
Is that tactic independent of the recently rendered unreliability? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1154520.0It prevents correct detection of Bitcoin XT adoption in the wild since usage will be known to have been tampered with and thus all statistical data gathered by getnodes can only be considered unreliable.
Cheers Graham
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August 20, 2015, 08:35:43 PM Last edit: August 20, 2015, 09:17:06 PM by coins101 |
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Just testing the waters.
WTB 1m SPR for find satoshinakamoto1 van gen competition.
Will put the 1m SPR into escrow for the winner.
PM if you could be interested in selling large quantities to get this competition underway - today's price is $0.01
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still doing the shibesmoon pilot, so this for after the pilot has started.
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August 20, 2015, 08:48:40 PM |
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just use the check for node version it will state if its XT or not
Is that tactic independent of the recently rendered unreliability? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1154520.0It prevents correct detection of Bitcoin XT adoption in the wild since usage will be known to have been tampered with and thus all statistical data gathered by getnodes can only be considered unreliable.
Cheers Graham Cheers for drawing that to my attention Graham. I don't know whether to laugh or not!
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August 21, 2015, 03:58:49 PM |
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Don't all shot me at once: Any chance of dropping the 'coin' in Spreadcoin? Please, please discuss. 10 SPR to everyone that agrees with me, vocally ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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August 21, 2015, 04:06:48 PM |
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But seriously, I do agree with you.
The discussions we have had for the potential of the SPR network clearly overstep the mark of being defined as a coin. Our primary goal is not to be a payment system for example.
Lets have this debate now rather than in a years time.
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August 21, 2015, 04:10:36 PM |
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Don't all shot me at once: Any chance of dropping the 'coin' in Spreadcoin? Please, please discuss. 10 SPR to everyone that agrees with me, vocally ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) no problems here! Though, "Spread" seems to have implications of its own (maybe just to my immature mind, idk) ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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August 21, 2015, 04:24:57 PM |
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Don't all shot me at once: Any chance of dropping the 'coin' in Spreadcoin? Please, please discuss. 10 SPR to everyone that agrees with me, vocally ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) no problems here! Though, "Spread" seems to have implications of its own (maybe just to my immature mind, idk) ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) That was nice and vocal. PM SPR addy (putting addresses on the thread can get you and me banned). edit no, wait. change or no change?
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August 21, 2015, 04:26:37 PM |
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But seriously, I do agree with you.
The discussions we have had for the potential of the SPR network clearly overstep the mark of being defined as a coin. Our primary goal is not to be a payment system for example.
Lets have this debate now rather than in a years time.
+101 I'll donate some SPR, for vocal view, to the devs on your behalf (I think this counts as trying to rig the outcome).
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August 21, 2015, 04:31:08 PM |
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Don't all shot me at once: Any chance of dropping the 'coin' in Spreadcoin? Please, please discuss. 10 SPR to everyone that agrees with me, vocally ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) no problems here! Though, "Spread" seems to have implications of its own (maybe just to my immature mind, idk) ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) That was nice and vocal. PM SPR addy (putting addresses on the thread can get you and me banned). edit no, wait. change or no change? Well, let's not get banned - donating to the devs as you did for stonehedge is good with me! And I'm in agreement with a change ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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August 21, 2015, 04:46:02 PM |
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Don't all shot me at once: Any chance of dropping the 'coin' in Spreadcoin? Please, please discuss. 10 SPR to everyone that agrees with me, vocally ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) no problems here! Though, "Spread" seems to have implications of its own (maybe just to my immature mind, idk) ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) That was nice and vocal. PM SPR addy (putting addresses on the thread can get you and me banned). edit no, wait. change or no change? Well, let's not get banned - donating to the devs as you did for stonehedge is good with me! And I'm in agreement with a change ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Cool. Done. http://miningcores.com/explorer?id=385&height=535534http://miningcores.com/explorer?id=385&height=535535
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August 21, 2015, 04:49:56 PM |
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I think more vote rigging is required - socket puppet votes will be accepted.
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August 21, 2015, 05:56:08 PM |
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Please don't ask why..... Of the top 100 wallets, which account for 74% of the current supply: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FSBwVBTe.jpg&t=665&c=BG7IEbzTgvONmA) ~550k are in wallets that have been inactive for 3+ months ~600k are in wallets that have been inactive for more than 1 month, less than 3 months ~1.4m are in active wallets used within the last 30 days: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Ftw1ZXft.jpg&t=665&c=1Ex5Uk0Pp_0C2w)
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August 21, 2015, 06:57:25 PM |
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Don't all shot me at once: Any chance of dropping the 'coin' in Spreadcoin? Please, please discuss. 10 SPR to everyone that agrees with me, vocally ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) no problems here! Though, "Spread" seems to have implications of its own (maybe just to my immature mind, idk) ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) That was nice and vocal. PM SPR addy (putting addresses on the thread can get you and me banned). edit no, wait. change or no change? Well, let's not get banned - donating to the devs as you did for stonehedge is good with me! And I'm in agreement with a change ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Cool. Done. http://miningcores.com/explorer?id=385&height=535534http://miningcores.com/explorer?id=385&height=535535Awesome. thanks!
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August 21, 2015, 07:27:09 PM |
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coins101 a lot of people abandoned crypto. but may be its Satoshi with his new version of bitcoin. Who knows ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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August 21, 2015, 07:48:27 PM |
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coins101 a lot of people abandoned crypto. but may be its Satoshi with his new version of bitcoin. Who knows ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) +101 Yes, who knows. That also sounds like a vocal vote for name change. PM an address for your SPR.
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August 21, 2015, 10:57:28 PM |
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Don't all shot me at once: Any chance of dropping the 'coin' in Spreadcoin? Please, please discuss. 10 SPR to everyone that agrees with me, vocally ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Absolutely, I've been thinking about shortening the name to spread since mr. spread left. Well, it's very difficult to find any domainname that is spread only, but we can still just call it spread. We can think about maybe calling the currency unit itself spread instead of spreadcoin. e.g. "How many spread does this sandwhich cost, spread101?" "Damn, I am out of spread!" "Wow, someone just gave me 1000 spread, just like that..." etc
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August 21, 2015, 11:19:05 PM |
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Don't all shot me at once: Any chance of dropping the 'coin' in Spreadcoin? Please, please discuss. 10 SPR to everyone that agrees with me, vocally ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Absolutely, I've been thinking about shortening the name to spread since mr. spread left. Well, it's very difficult to find any domainname that is spread only, but we can still just call it spread. We can think about maybe calling the currency unit itself spread instead of spreadcoin. e.g. "How many spread does this sandwhich cost, spread101?" "Damn, I am out of spread!" "Wow, someone just gave me 1000 spread, just like that..." etc Wow. That's pretty vocal. 10 SPR bribe sent http://miningcores.com/explorer?id=385&height=535934That now works with spreadnodes ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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