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July 20, 2022, 08:30:07 PM
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I also don't give much chance for Roma about making it to the league title this season. However my expectation level from them to be more successful has increased quite much. They have been making good transfer moves and they seem better with Mourinho now. Their next target would be finishing the season in top four this time absolutely. They need to do their best to join the Champions League. I don't know how much successful they would be in the Europa League next season. After winning the Conference League they are among the favourites to me.
because there are still some big clubs that can be featured apart from them.
Indeed, at this time they are adding some players to be able to compete but that is not for the title position and maybe only for the top 4 position there.
This season there are still the same clubs as Inter, Juventus, and maybe Milan (even this I'm actually quite doubtful for Milan).

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July 20, 2022, 08:35:47 PM
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I see that Roma have completed the deal of Paulo Dybala finally. It is a really good transfer I believe as I said before. He has signed a three-year contract. As he is 28 years old I expect to see him being very beneficial for a few years. I have a feeling like he will start performing much better at Roma and both sides will be contented with each other. Roma have made four signings already and only one of them wasn't a free transfer. They spent only 7 million euros which were for Zeki Celik from Lille. I expect to see more signings in the coming days.
There is much news out there about Roma since media are talking about Dybala's deal and how he made a clause around €20m to leave the club in case he finds something more interesting.
The only other thing that could be found is that Roma is interested in Wijnaldum but they can't afford his salary, they might bring him as loan transfer and PSG paying a part of his salary.

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July 20, 2022, 08:37:57 PM
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Juventus were looking for a centre-back after seeing that de Ligt was about to sign for Bayern Munich. They have made their signing already too. They were in a race to sign Torino defender Bremer and they won it. The deal has been completed for a fee of 41 million euros. He is also very young for a centre-back and he is a good player. They have signed him for around half the money they have sold de Ligt to Bayern Munich. Therefore it is a very favorable agreement for them.

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July 20, 2022, 09:42:52 PM
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Mourinho is doing pretty well, maybe not great in my opinion because he hasn't really done anything out of the ordinary, yes they won the Conference League, but it is not a special tournament, it is the third tier in European Football, behind the CL, and UEL, so I can't call it a great achievement, remember that Roma also failed to finish in the top four last season; do not get me wrong, i am not trying to undermine Mourinho's influence on the team, but I do not think he has done too much that is worthy of excessive praise. Having said that, he is not signing players that are bad at all, I am pretty sure they will aid them next season, but l do not think they can win the Seria A next season, they will be challenging for a top four finish, but definitely not the trophy.

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July 20, 2022, 10:10:10 PM
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By the way I see Nicolo Zaniolo get offer from Spurs, I think Mourinho needs one more striker as a form of preparation and to complete Roma's because I believe Mourinho is target the UCL position next season. Dybala's arrival gives Roma a little hope, but besides that there are concerns with the news of Zaniolo, although Zaniolo has not been impressive but he is quite active in every Roma match. It's get harder to see napoli and juventus will work hard not to get eliminated out from the top of the table, I'm looking forward to mourinho's next strategy
Roma will definitely need some money or basically just need to send some players away to open up a salary space basically. They got Dybala and that's the biggest situation, there isn't a scenario where we are talking about making a huge purchase like that without having to sell some players at all.

This is why I end up thinking how important these type of deals happen, I mean how often could Roma would be able to get Dybala type of player, he is way too talented to end up with Roma normally and that is why I think this would be the most important part. You could end up with just Dybala and also keep many great players if you are Roma, you need to make sure you balance it well enough though.

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July 20, 2022, 10:22:54 PM
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There was an interest by Tottenham for Zaniolo some time ago, yes. But I don't see any rumour about it now. Juventus were also among the teams interested in signing him. Zaniolo can easily be a wanted player for big teams for certain. He is a really promising winger and he is only 23 now. It can still be difficult for Roma to keep him at the team this summer. However there is a feeling inside me like he will stay for this summer. If he doesn't have any release clause then he would stay.
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July 20, 2022, 10:51:34 PM
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There was an interest by Tottenham for Zaniolo some time ago, yes. But I don't see any rumour about it now. Juventus were also among the teams interested in signing him. Zaniolo can easily be a wanted player for big teams for certain. He is a really promising winger and he is only 23 now. It can still be difficult for Roma to keep him at the team this summer. However there is a feeling inside me like he will stay for this summer. If he doesn't have any release clause then he would stay.

Zaniolo's form is getting better with Roma, it's not surprising that quite a number of teams are interested in Zaniolo in this summer's transfer market.
Apart from Tottenham, it seems AC Milan and Juventus are also reportedly very interested in getting Zaniolo. However, Roma have set an exorbitant
price for Zaniolo, with Roma wanting 50 million euros for any club looking to buy Zaniolo. This makes the club that is interested in Zaniolo until now
has not dared to make an offer to Roma, meaning that Zaniolo will most likely stay at Roma. If true until the transfer window closes and Nicolo Zaniolo
still stays at Roma, it is certain that Rome will have a very good squad. Since Roma have so far managed to bring in some good players, such as
Mile Svilar, Zeki Celik, Nemanja Matic and most recently Paulo Dybala. With the addition of several new players, Roma is expected to be able to
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July 20, 2022, 11:41:51 PM
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Juventus were looking for a centre-back after seeing that de Ligt was about to sign for Bayern Munich. They have made their signing already too. They were in a race to sign Torino defender Bremer and they won it. The deal has been completed for a fee of 41 million euros. He is also very young for a centre-back and he is a good player. They have signed him for around half the money they have sold de Ligt to Bayern Munich. Therefore it is a very favorable agreement for them.
It was a quick transfer made by Juventus, when Bayern Munich officially signed de Ligt and the day after that Juventus quickly signed Bremer. Even though these two players are of different ages, they are both still relatively young and also, both have the same contract until 2027. Well, hopefully Juventus' quick transaction is the right move, because choosing players for the defense is very risky. But yes, because Bremer previously played for Torino it doesn't seem like it will take long for Bremer to adapt and it's a good thing to build chemistry on the pitch.

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July 20, 2022, 11:48:47 PM
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I see that Roma have completed the deal of Paulo Dybala finally. It is a really good transfer I believe as I said before. He has signed a three-year contract. As he is 28 years old I expect to see him being very beneficial for a few years. I have a feeling like he will start performing much better at Roma and both sides will be contented with each other. Roma have made four signings already and only one of them wasn't a free transfer. They spent only 7 million euros which were for Zeki Celik from Lille. I expect to see more signings in the coming days.
Maybe it's a good deal for AS Roma, but it doesn't look so good for Dybala. Because Dybala's salary at Rome is actually lower than the salary he got at Juventus, the reason Dybala did not renew his contract at Juventus was because Dybala wanted to get a higher salary but this desire did not materialize. For that reason, I don't think Dybala is very happy playing at Roma because he basically doesn't have a club after his contract expired at Juventus at the end of June and Roma are the only team that still wants to sign Dybala and no other club. So yes, for that reason this deal is good for Roma themselves and not for Dybala, which is a shame.

I don't know. I just think that he must be happy because it was his choice to sign for Roma in the end. He didn't have any team that could affect his deal to Roma. You might be right about the salary topic by the way. But he wasn't performing very effectively at Juventus so I think that it is better for him to leave the team as I said before. If he starts performing better at Roma then his happiness level would increase certainly. It wouldn't be difficult for him to be a regular starting eleven player in that case.

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Mourinho is doing pretty well, maybe not great in my opinion because he hasn't really done anything out of the ordinary, yes they won the Conference League, but it is not a special tournament, it is the third tier in European Football, behind the CL, and UEL, so I can't call it a great achievement, remember that Roma also failed to finish in the top four last season; do not get me wrong, i am not trying to undermine Mourinho's influence on the team, but I do not think he has done too much that is worthy of excessive praise. Having said that, he is not signing players that are bad at all, I am pretty sure they will aid them next season, but l do not think they can win the Seria A next season, they will be challenging for a top four finish, but definitely not the trophy.
You may be surprised, but Roma had no official club trophies before, except for the Fairs Cup won in 1961, which was the predecessor of the UEFA Cup and which UEFA itself does not consider an official tournament, so for Roma winning the UEFA Conference League is a significant event and the first official club trophy at the international level. Therefore, Jose Mourinho has already achieved success with the team and progress is visible. As far as I know, the management and the American owner of the club, Dan Friedkin, soberly assess their capabilities and it seems that there is no question of necessarily winning the title this season. We are talking about moving forward and I think that winning the club's participation in the Champions League next season would undoubtedly be considered by the club's management as a real goal and an achievable result.
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Mourinho is doing pretty well, maybe not great in my opinion because he hasn't really done anything out of the ordinary, yes they won the Conference League, but it is not a special tournament, it is the third tier in European Football, behind the CL, and UEL, so I can't call it a great achievement, remember that Roma also failed to finish in the top four last season; do not get me wrong, i am not trying to undermine Mourinho's influence on the team, but I do not think he has done too much that is worthy of excessive praise. Having said that, he is not signing players that are bad at all, I am pretty sure they will aid them next season, but l do not think they can win the Seria A next season, they will be challenging for a top four finish, but definitely not the trophy.
You may be surprised, but Roma had no official club trophies before, except for the Fairs Cup won in 1961, which was the predecessor of the UEFA Cup and which UEFA itself does not consider an official tournament, so for Roma winning the UEFA Conference League is a significant event and the first official club trophy at the international level. Therefore, Jose Mourinho has already achieved success with the team and progress is visible. As far as I know, the management and the American owner of the club, Dan Friedkin, soberly assess their capabilities and it seems that there is no question of necessarily winning the title this season. We are talking about moving forward and I think that winning the club's participation in the Champions League next season would undoubtedly be considered by the club's management as a real goal and an achievable result.
I think Jose Mourinho has thought about this and I know he can think a few steps ahead because I feel AS Roma has now started to prepare the best players to participate in the champions league next season including the addition of Paul Dybala and several other player plans such as Georginio Wijnaldum and Natan Bernardo de Souza (Natan) is still waiting for the right time to bring them.

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The Roma club is owned by Dan Friedkin, owner of the Friedkin Group. And one of the richest men in Serie A. His net worth is 4.4 billion. So it is wrong to say that Roma don't have money. The problem is that Roma doesn't have a spending mentality. Dan Friedkin may not want to spend too much money. But if he spends money and solves the problems within the team, Mourinho can help him win the title. For this, the team needs talented players.
Indeed, mourinho can provide positive results for AS Roma, but we must also remember that Mourinho's strategy does not always work. Although I realize that last season, Roma success in getting a trophy, can give positive results for Roma this season. Especially with the arrival of Dybala. Although it is not a guarantee, if Roma are able to keep Mourinho for the next few seasons, Roma maybe can get the Serie A trophy, of course board member need to support Mourinho decision for every transfer as far as the players still under their budget.

If the team doesn't have enough talented players, even if the coach is experienced, it is not possible to win the title. To win the title, there must be consistency in performance, performance must be stable. Otherwise winning the title is impossible even if the coach is experienced. So Mourinho should be given enough funds, if Mourinho builds the team with the players he wants, I believe Roma will win at least one title next season.

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July 21, 2022, 03:51:22 AM
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The signing of Dybala became a special attraction for As S Roma, where they brought in players who were already familiar with Serie A. Even though Dybala's performances at Juventus have decreased, but I believe at AS Roma he will come back again like the Dybala we know before. I feel the competition this time in Serie A will be even more different, in a competitive sense again.

By the way I see Nicolo Zaniolo get offer from Spurs, I think Mourinho needs one more striker as a form of preparation and to complete Roma's because I believe Mourinho is target the UCL position next season. Dybala's arrival gives Roma a little hope, but besides that there are concerns with the news of Zaniolo, although Zaniolo has not been impressive but he is quite active in every Roma match. It's get harder to see napoli and juventus will work hard not to get eliminated out from the top of the table, I'm looking forward to mourinho's next strategy
Zaniolo is still a bone of contention for the big clubs today and when Tottenham are now in the hunt for it obviously makes competition for this player even tougher for clubs looking to lure him.
But I think Tottenham will be very difficult now to bring in Zaniolo.
In terms of money it is clear this season they will be a little overwhelmed considering they have also spent a lot of money there.
Until now Zaniolo is still priced at 50 million Euros.

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July 21, 2022, 04:16:16 AM
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Juventus were looking for a centre-back after seeing that de Ligt was about to sign for Bayern Munich. They have made their signing already too. They were in a race to sign Torino defender Bremer and they won it. The deal has been completed for a fee of 41 million euros. He is also very young for a centre-back and he is a good player. They have signed him for around half the money they have sold de Ligt to Bayern Munich. Therefore it is a very favorable agreement for them.
Yes, now Juventus does have a shortage in that position. Especially now that the competition in Serie A is heading for a high level of competition, so they have to prepare as well as possible. AC Milan, Inter Milan and the others are stronger now with several players coming in, especially in the attacking position. This will be a real threat for Juventus to compete with them next season.

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The signing of Dybala became a special attraction for As S Roma, where they brought in players who were already familiar with Serie A. Even though Dybala's performances at Juventus have decreased, but I believe at AS Roma he will come back again like the Dybala we know before. I feel the competition this time in Serie A will be even more different, in a competitive sense again.

By the way I see Nicolo Zaniolo get offer from Spurs, I think Mourinho needs one more striker as a form of preparation and to complete Roma's because I believe Mourinho is target the UCL position next season. Dybala's arrival gives Roma a little hope, but besides that there are concerns with the news of Zaniolo, although Zaniolo has not been impressive but he is quite active in every Roma match. It's get harder to see napoli and juventus will work hard not to get eliminated out from the top of the table, I'm looking forward to mourinho's next strategy
Zaniolo is still a bone of contention for the big clubs today and when Tottenham are now in the hunt for it obviously makes competition for this player even tougher for clubs looking to lure him.
But I think Tottenham will be very difficult now to bring in Zaniolo.
In terms of money it is clear this season they will be a little overwhelmed considering they have also spent a lot of money there.
Until now Zaniolo is still priced at 50 million Euros.

@Jody.Drummer I was particularly surprised when this news broke out, because I see Dybala as a player that can play in the world’s best teams, and for him to give up champions league football says a lot about Mourinho’s vision and charm which made him sign up for Roma. Furthermore I think that Roma will finish in top 4 this season, and then target the title next season with probably more recruits in the future transfer windows.
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Juventus were looking for a centre-back after seeing that de Ligt was about to sign for Bayern Munich. They have made their signing already too. They were in a race to sign Torino defender Bremer and they won it. The deal has been completed for a fee of 41 million euros. He is also very young for a centre-back and he is a good player. They have signed him for around half the money they have sold de Ligt to Bayern Munich. Therefore it is a very favorable agreement for them.

Juventus managements are seriously working to give the best to the team, because all those players they just signed in are young talented players that have a good record in their formal team. It showed that Juventus will definitely increase their performance in next season, because their coach has worked on their defense which was their major challenges in last season. I believe De Ligt will help Bayern Munich to perform well in next season, because he is among the best talented players in Italian league competition which he will definitely introduce some tactics that will help their coach to believe in him that he will help them to achieve victory in next season.

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July 21, 2022, 04:39:57 AM
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@Jody.Drummer I was particularly surprised when this news broke out, because I see Dybala as a player that can play in the world’s best teams, and for him to give up champions league football says a lot about Mourinho’s vision and charm which made him sign up for Roma. Furthermore I think that Roma will finish in top 4 this season, and then target the title next season with probably more recruits in the future transfer windows.
He has tried to offer himself to some big clubs but it looks like his performances this season have not been enough to convince a club that is in the Champions League.
It was a good start when there was an agreement with Inter but it's a shame that when Lukaku was there it made Dybala a bit difficult and it didn't work out in the end.
As for Roma, maybe they will fight for the top 4 position next season because indeed it will be very good for them if they do that.

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July 21, 2022, 04:47:10 AM
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Paulo Dybala's transfer to Rome excited me. I hope Jose wants to build a good squad in the team and bring Rome back to its old days. The experienced technical man who shapes the offensive line and the defensive line also needs to strengthen the midfield. For Rome's effective exits from defense to attack, it definitely needs to reinforce its midfield. However, Jose's good use of experience and player capacity makes us think that we will watch a good and fast Roma this year.

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July 21, 2022, 04:54:23 AM
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I think Jose Mourinho has thought about this and I know he can think a few steps ahead because I feel AS Roma has now started to prepare the best players to participate in the champions league next season including the addition of Paul Dybala and several other player plans such as Georginio Wijnaldum and Natan Bernardo de Souza (Natan) is still waiting for the right time to bring them.
Mourinho is planning to bring Roma to top 4 and even strive for Scudetto. At least playing in Champions League next 2 years will be objective of Mourinho and Roma. I am not too sure about transfer rumor with Wijnaldum and Natan.

Zaniolo is still a bone of contention for the big clubs today and when Tottenham are now in the hunt for it obviously makes competition for this player even tougher for clubs looking to lure him.
Zaniolo is very talented but he has gotten some serious injuries. He must adjust his style to less relying on speed. His knees won't be able to cover abrupt changes in direction when he is running at his max speed. This style can cause other injuries for Zaniolo.

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In terms of money it is clear this season they will be a little overwhelmed considering they have also spent a lot of money there.
Until now Zaniolo is still priced at 50 million Euros.
Roma and Mourinho are doing well with this strategy. Getting Dybala free and selling Zaniolo with good money. Zaniolo is younger than Dybala but with his injury record, no guarantee that his career can last long and he will be able to grow more. I hope Zaniolo will be fine and grow more because he is a future of Italy team.

If the team doesn't have enough talented players, even if the coach is experienced, it is not possible to win the title. To win the title, there must be consistency in performance, performance must be stable. Otherwise winning the title is impossible even if the coach is experienced. So Mourinho should be given enough funds, if Mourinho builds the team with the players he wants, I believe Roma will win at least one title next season.
Mourinho usually builds up his team and reaches to best results in his second season in a club. The first season is like a preparation for him to train his players about his tactics. A second season is to improve strength with players he wants to fix weakness and increase strength.

I think it is what Mourinho is doing in Roma now but Roma is not in a too good finance to buy best players like Chelsea or Real Madrid. However we see Mourinho can win Europa League and Champions League with Porto with very limited resources. He can do it again in Roma.

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July 21, 2022, 05:07:06 AM
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Paulo Dybala's transfer to Rome excited me. I hope Jose wants to build a good squad in the team and bring Rome back to its old days. The experienced technical man who shapes the offensive line and the defensive line also needs to strengthen the midfield. For Rome's effective exits from defense to attack, it definitely needs to reinforce its midfield. However, Jose's good use of experience and player capacity makes us think that we will watch a good and fast Roma this year.
Jose Mourinho is a great coach who is very experienced, I have no doubts about that and with what he has given in his first season with AS Roma it has been extraordinary and for next season I think and I am very sure there will be significant changes for the progress of performance and achievements AS Roma.
and also the arrival of great players, especially Paulo Dybala, who is still in very good performance, will certainly make AS Roma's front line even better.
With Paulo Dybala playing in Serie A for a long time with Juventus, of course it will make Dybala easier and faster to adapt to AS Roma.
this is the best transfer of AS Roma this season in my opinion, Paulo Dybala is a very quality player. AS Roma are really very lucky to get him with many other teams who are also interested in the 29-year-old Argentine, and I think the Jose Mounrinho factor as AS Roma coach was a big influence for players to choose AS Roma.



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