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July 28, 2022, 04:24:04 PM
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Pogba's injury is very unfortunate for Juventus. Right after they started to be happy about completing the missing piece of the puzzle this happened. Now they will need a midfielder again and they need to keep the ones in the team also. I mentioned ''keeping'' too because Tottenham have an interest in Weston McKennie on one hand. Now Juventus will need him in the absence of Pogba. Therefore I don't expect that transfer to happen anytime soon. Pogba's return date is unknown which is another disappointment for Juventus.
Without Pogba, Juventus will get more difficulty with their midfield because Ramsey, Rabiot is not the way to leave Turin. It will make their resource for midfield become less and have less quality players on bench. It seems their bet on Pogba is failed at beginning even they got him free. Plan was broken by this sudden injury and Pogba might miss the World Cup in December too in worst scenario for his injury and recovery.

It's a shame because it might take a long time to recover after surgery, but that doesn't mean that without Pogba, Juventus will become weak. But if Allegri does make Pogba his plan for the new season then of course, Allegri needs a replacement who at least falls within the criteria for Allegri's plan to strengthen their midfielder. Injuries to this player have always been one of the most influential constraint factors, especially since Pogba has just returned to the team, whose hopes of appearing soon are very high.
Pogba had a good friendly match and it brought lot of hope for his contribution in Juventus that can help them to win Scudetto against AC Milan and Inter Milan. Unfortunately, only one day after that, in a training session, he got an injury that is not a mild one.

Depends on a surgery solution for him, he will be missing from 2 months to 6 months that will be a terrible missing for Juventus. Their plan will have to change all with this injury of Pogba. From personal view for Pogba, it sheds a signal that his body is weaker with time and his time at top level is no longer long.

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July 28, 2022, 04:53:01 PM
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It's a shame because it might take a long time to recover after surgery, but that doesn't mean that without Pogba, Juventus will become weak. But if Allegri does make Pogba his plan for the new season then of course, Allegri needs a replacement who at least falls within the criteria for Allegri's plan to strengthen their midfielder. Injuries to this player have always been one of the most influential constraint factors, especially since Pogba has just returned to the team, whose hopes of appearing soon are very high.
Pogba had a good friendly match and it brought lot of hope for his contribution in Juventus that can help them to win Scudetto against AC Milan and Inter Milan. Unfortunately, only one day after that, in a training session, he got an injury that is not a mild one.

Depends on a surgery solution for him, he will be missing from 2 months to 6 months that will be a terrible missing for Juventus. Their plan will have to change all with this injury of Pogba. From personal view for Pogba, it sheds a signal that his body is weaker with time and his time at top level is no longer long.
This is bad luck for Pogba because in training he can get injured which is beyond prediction but indeed I read the news that at least two months for treatment and there is a long possibility that even it was reported that for the world cup competition it was reported that he would be absent, I honestly don't want this occur.

Of course, Allegri's plans will definitely change because previously Pogba was included in the main squad which would be a good contribution to winning the Scudetto, but what power this must be changed and planned for Pogba's replacement, but there is a possibility that other players will be targeted by Juve to fill Pogba's position at this time this.

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July 28, 2022, 04:55:25 PM
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I do not know
I don't agree very much, I don't judge Mourinho well as a coach
but maybe I am wrong, since I am not competent in the matter
why do you think he's a good coach?
I have seen others, in my opinion, better than him
A very strange question - you can just look at the Wikipedia page with a list of his achievements, well, it makes no sense to breed offtopic here. Going back to Serie A, which clubs have won the European trophy in recent years? This is Roma (under Mourinho), and before that, 12 years ago, Inter won the Champions League (and also under Mourinho). Coincidence? I don't think so  Wink

José Mourinho is not one of the leading coaches in the world, and I agree with that. I am convinced he can predict how the opponent will play. However, I do not think his idea to counter that play makes sense. With Roma, he has shown some improvements. But I don’t think that is something to brag about. I would’ve said the improvements are quite encouraging if Roma could end up finishing in the top 4. And I also have my doubts that they will also not be able to do that in the next season as well. Because the competition is obviously shaping up to be a lot more difficult in the next season.

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July 28, 2022, 05:02:44 PM
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Pogba's injury is very unfortunate for Juventus. Right after they started to be happy about completing the missing piece of the puzzle this happened. Now they will need a midfielder again and they need to keep the ones in the team also. I mentioned ''keeping'' too because Tottenham have an interest in Weston McKennie on one hand. Now Juventus will need him in the absence of Pogba. Therefore I don't expect that transfer to happen anytime soon. Pogba's return date is unknown which is another disappointment for Juventus.

Both Gon be disappointing for Juventus and French National squad to hear about. News saying he is likely to miss out on the  World Cup.
They have to move in for another attacking midfielder or a box to box midfielder to replace Paul Pogba since the returning date still gonna be unknown for some time.
Timo Werner also have been linked for a loan switch to Juventus, what's it going to be like ? Seems Chelsea no longer have trust in the German International.

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July 28, 2022, 05:04:05 PM
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This is bad luck for Pogba because in training he can get injured which is beyond prediction but indeed I read the news that at least two months for treatment and there is a long possibility that even it was reported that for the world cup competition it was reported that he would be absent, I honestly don't want this occur.

Of course, Allegri's plans will definitely change because previously Pogba was included in the main squad which would be a good contribution to winning the Scudetto, but what power this must be changed and planned for Pogba's replacement, but there is a possibility that other players will be targeted by Juve to fill Pogba's position at this time this.
Surprisingly and actually it is the thing that costs Juventus and France the most if Pogba cannot be played in official matches. The league will start in August and that is bad news.

If the injury isn't too severe and doesn't require him to be out for more than two months, then I think Juventus can still be patient. I don't think they should get a replacement right away because Pogba is still possible to recover faster, so hopefully that's true and the injury isn't too bad.

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July 28, 2022, 05:17:55 PM
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Of course, Allegri's plans will definitely change because previously Pogba was included in the main squad which would be a good contribution to winning the Scudetto, but what power this must be changed and planned for Pogba's replacement, but there is a possibility that other players will be targeted by Juve to fill Pogba's position at this time this.
Bad luck for juventus because they had to bury big hopes after pogba got injured and it was reported that maybe pogba would spend his time recovering from an injury in the next two or three months so automatically pogba would miss some of juventus early games in the league and champions league later, I think maybe juventus will looking for a replacement for pogba but I think actually juventus is better at maximizing the other midfielders that are currently available until pogba recovers later, so far juventus has Rabiot who can indeed be used as a temporary replacement for pogba and maybe for now Rabiot can be the most appropriate option for allegri instead of having to look for other players.

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July 28, 2022, 05:18:35 PM
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Pogba's injury is very unfortunate for Juventus. Right after they started to be happy about completing the missing piece of the puzzle this happened. Now they will need a midfielder again and they need to keep the ones in the team also. I mentioned ''keeping'' too because Tottenham have an interest in Weston McKennie on one hand. Now Juventus will need him in the absence of Pogba. Therefore I don't expect that transfer to happen anytime soon. Pogba's return date is unknown which is another disappointment for Juventus.
Juventus lost Pogba to injury, that is great news for Inter, Milan and Napoli. Pogba is a good player as he has proven every season, but due to injury, it is certain that Juventus lost strength in midfield at the start of this season. Honestly I hope Milan can take advantage of this situation to step on the gas from the first game. They have to take advantage of all the bad situations of other teams to get full points in every game because this season Milan have not spent a lot of money on players.

Juventus have every right to be disappointed because of Pogba, it is he who is expected to make a big contribution this season to the Scudetto that has been missing in recent seasons. Obviously now they will think about who will replace him, but I don't think there is a new player.

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July 28, 2022, 05:31:32 PM
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Pogba's injury is very unfortunate for Juventus. Right after they started to be happy about completing the missing piece of the puzzle this happened. Now they will need a midfielder again and they need to keep the ones in the team also. I mentioned ''keeping'' too because Tottenham have an interest in Weston McKennie on one hand. Now Juventus will need him in the absence of Pogba. Therefore I don't expect that transfer to happen anytime soon. Pogba's return date is unknown which is another disappointment for Juventus.
It's a shame because it might take a long time to recover after surgery, but that doesn't mean that without Pogba, Juventus will become weak. But if Allegri does make Pogba his plan for the new season then of course, Allegri needs a replacement who at least falls within the criteria for Allegri's plan to strengthen their midfielder. Injuries to this player have always been one of the most influential constraint factors, especially since Pogba has just returned to the team, whose hopes of appearing soon are very high.

Without Pogba, Juventus will not be weak at all. Pogba is yet to be part of the Juventus team. He has just joined the Juventus team. So even if Pogba misses the first few matches of the season, the Juventus team will not face too many problems. However, if Pogba cannot adapt himself to the Juventus team, it will not be easy for Juventus to win the Serie A title. AC Milan and Inter Milan are strong teams.

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July 28, 2022, 05:32:50 PM
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A very strange question - you can just look at the Wikipedia page with a list of his achievements, well, it makes no sense to breed offtopic here. Going back to Serie A, which clubs have won the European trophy in recent years? This is Roma (under Mourinho), and before that, 12 years ago, Inter won the Champions League (and also under Mourinho). Coincidence? I don't think so  Wink

José Mourinho is not one of the leading coaches in the world, and I agree with that. I am convinced he can predict how the opponent will play. However, I do not think his idea to counter that play makes sense. With Roma, he has shown some improvements. But I don’t think that is something to brag about. I would’ve said the improvements are quite encouraging if Roma could end up finishing in the top 4. And I also have my doubts that they will also not be able to do that in the next season as well. Because the competition is obviously shaping up to be a lot more difficult in the next season.

I have the exact opposite opinion, so I don't know how you can agree. Mourinho achieves super results with clubs, he jumps above his head, but he cannot do it always and with every club. For example, I am sure that if you go back in time and send Moruinho to coach the clubs that Guardiola coached (Barcelona with the golden generation of the Spanish national team, Bayern in their prime and City which endlessly buy whoever they want), then he would have achieved much better results than Guardiola.
The upcoming season looks promising for Roma, the championship is unrealistic, but they will win some kind of cup.

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you forgot Milan dear friend
do not underestimate Milan, who are strong in a well-established team
has an excellent charismatic leader
has excellent management
so I wouldn't exclude it from the games
remember that last season he finished second behind Inter



I haven't forgotten AC Milan. Just, I feel AC Milan title last season is because Inter struggling in some easy matches. Next season, Juventus will give serious resistance to the Milan duo. That's why I no longer predict Milan as Serie A champions next season. Maybe I'm wrong with this assessment. Of course, I hope AC Milan can continue to perform well in the UCL and Serie A to convince me that my assessment of them was a mistake.

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you forgot Milan dear friend
do not underestimate Milan, who are strong in a well-established team
has an excellent charismatic leader
has excellent management
so I wouldn't exclude it from the games
remember that last season he finished second behind Inter



I haven't forgotten AC Milan. Just, I feel AC Milan title last season is because Inter struggling in some easy matches. Next season, Juventus will give serious resistance to the Milan duo. That's why I no longer predict Milan as Serie A champions next season. Maybe I'm wrong with this assessment. Of course, I hope AC Milan can continue to perform well in the UCL and Serie A to convince me that my assessment of them was a mistake.
At the moment AC Milan, even though they are the defending champions there, it's still a bit more difficult for them.
Currently they are in trouble in terms of their finances that are not getting better, and this clearly has an impact on the purchase of their current players who are not very active in the transfer window. Now they have to lose Zlatan in attack and obviously this will also hinder them so I wouldn't expect much from them next season.

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Juventus' friendly against Barcelona was amusing to watch. Barcelona was the better side actually but it still ended in a 2-2 draw. We watched a nice duel between Dembele and Kean when it comes to scoring.

The game was good despite Barcelona not winning as I predicted yet they once again proved that they are set for the new season with their outstanding performance and dominance against Juventus. For the performance of Kean and Dembele in the game, I believe they will have a very good start this season because their dribbles and finishing touches are superb and the goals are world-class goals. I believe the 2:2 draw can not be used to rate the team strength because it was a friendly game but we look forward to seeing those good display this new season.






Indeed, friendly matches are not always just a matter of winning or losing. But it seems that many have evolved and made it to win, including myself sometimes like that. I personally saw this match how they played, their readiness to navigate next season. Regardless of losing or winning, they have presented an interesting football to watch.
Juventus can play well even with Pogba, they have other options in the midfield and the recent additions to the squad are showing improvement in their game, obviously the Juventus of last season wouldn't take a point from a game against this current Barcelona team, the team has more star players than I expected to see this session. I just can't wait for the league to begin as I'm running out of patience already, I also want to watch the El Classico games in the La liga as well.
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July 28, 2022, 07:15:32 PM
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José Mourinho is not one of the leading coaches in the world, and I agree with that. I am convinced he can predict how the opponent will play. However, I do not think his idea to counter that play makes sense. With Roma, he has shown some improvements. But I don’t think that is something to brag about. I would’ve said the improvements are quite encouraging if Roma could end up finishing in the top 4. And I also have my doubts that they will also not be able to do that in the next season as well. Because the competition is obviously shaping up to be a lot more difficult in the next season.
Agree about right now José Mourinho is not leading coach, but he was one of the best few years back but due to his failure and having not enough better strategy bring him down which was big question mark but in last season he is improving with AS Roma as they won Europa Conference Cup, and now they are preparing for another good season with most chances they will give tough challenge to opponents for having spot into top four even it's not easy still they have fair chance because in recent years Serie A is unpredictable and teams fail to keep their to place due unpredictable results.

Now in current season we will have Inter, Juventus, AC Milan, Napoli and Roma for top ranks let's watch who is going to at top with entertaining season is going to start in just few days.
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I have the exact opposite opinion, so I don't know how you can agree. Mourinho achieves super results with clubs, he jumps above his head, but he cannot do it always and with every club. For example, I am sure that if you go back in time and send Moruinho to coach the clubs that Guardiola coached (Barcelona with the golden generation of the Spanish national team, Bayern in their prime and City which endlessly buy whoever they want), then he would have achieved much better results than Guardiola.
The upcoming season looks promising for Roma, the championship is unrealistic, but they will win some kind of cup.

Regardless of the pros and cons, I think Jose Mourinho is one of the greatest coaches in the world. The Special One always gives titles to the clubs he manages, except for Tottenham. Currently for AS Roma fans, Mourinho is a figure who brings great influence after several years of their helplessness.

With middle-class players at his disposal, but Mourinho was able to deliver the title that the Giallorosi fans have been waiting for. And I believe, Mourinho will bring AS Roma to be a serious challenger to the Scudetto or at least to enter the Champions League zone position.

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July 28, 2022, 07:18:19 PM
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Without Pogba, Juventus will not be weak at all. Pogba is yet to be part of the Juventus team. He has just joined the Juventus team. So even if Pogba misses the first few matches of the season, the Juventus team will not face too many problems. However, if Pogba cannot adapt himself to the Juventus team, it will not be easy for Juventus to win the Serie A title. AC Milan and Inter Milan are strong teams.
The middle line is not at Juventus's weakest position, so Pogba's injury won't be a problem for now. Well, Pogba really has not yet been involved in the team, so this is a loss, but not critical. I wish him a speedy recovery and return to the field. Another thing is the line of attack and the line of defense, the match with Barcelona showed how weak the defense of Juventus is now, if one Dembele can pass all and shoot on goal.

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July 28, 2022, 07:18:54 PM
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At least Juventus are ready for every line so I personally will not doubt it for the new season, because even though one of them will be injured, Juventus still have others who also have good quality. Positions that may be vacant may be filled by young players but Juventus will still involve more senior players and it will be good for a rotation. However, I believe Juventus will be strong in the top ranks and I also hope Juventus can compete further in the Champions League with a squad like this and I think Juventus can do well in all tournaments.
Now with the few new signings and having quality players in their squad Juventus is going to be tough contender for title and having chance for good ending in Champions League as well after the worst end of last season which was surely never been ideal for them with few injuries and having lack of few quality players Vlahovic, Kean and Chiesa all are in good shape and if they are able to bring Firmino from Liverpool surely this could be bonus for them.

Pogba injury is having some bad impact but with Rabiot is still in hopefully they will settle this for early part of season because he is also good replacement for this injury porn midfielder who is going to miss next few months with his surgery.

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you forgot Milan dear friend
do not underestimate Milan, who are strong in a well-established team
has an excellent charismatic leader
has excellent management
so I wouldn't exclude it from the games
remember that last season he finished second behind Inter



I haven't forgotten AC Milan. Just, I feel AC Milan title last season is because Inter struggling in some easy matches. Next season, Juventus will give serious resistance to the Milan duo. That's why I no longer predict Milan as Serie A champions next season. Maybe I'm wrong with this assessment. Of course, I hope AC Milan can continue to perform well in the UCL and Serie A to convince me that my assessment of them was a mistake.

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as you can understand from this list, they are all very strong teams and the result with them is not to be taken for granted
that's why I like the Italian league

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"Paul Pogba may return from his injury in 2023 and hence may miss the World Cup. Juventus' plan was for Pogba to undergo surgery in Santa Monica however the recovery time is estimated to take longer than two months. He will see doctors in Turin and France before making a decision. "

Very unlucky for Pogba to potentially not play in the up and coming World Cup. He really likes to represent France but it might not be his year. Unlucky for Juve too and it looks like they are back to the same midfield of rabiot locatelli and mckennie.
Paul Pogba's injury was quite severe and had to be operated on but if that happened it would make Juventus unable to get the most out of Pogba and the contribution given would decrease because Pogba did not contribute to any match because of the injury he suffered. . Juventus must be prepared to look for new players for temporary replacement in the position of pogba, of course this will provide a budget swelling for finances because taking new players requires very high costs.
This is a massive blow to Juventus, they finally found a solution to the midfield troubles and in split seconds he's out for injuries. Pogba has become prone to injuries and cannot be relied on, even if he recovers and returns from injury Juventus still needs others options in that position in case he gets injured again. I hope his absence does not cost them to lose important games when the league starts.
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July 28, 2022, 08:00:14 PM
 #33059

Still not sure about Pogba's situation, he will probably need surgery but 2 more visits are ongoing.


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July 28, 2022, 08:25:10 PM
 #33060

Still not sure about Pogba's situation, he will probably need surgery but 2 more visits are ongoing.



Pogba is prone to injuries and has had very nasty and long-term injuries several times in the past. If he has had those operations, the question is how quickly he can recover. And before he is back to his old level, we are also busy for a while. They were able to get him transfer free. Maybe still on the market to see if there is another midfielder for sale somewhere? Juventus have a healthy bank account, right?

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