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June 18, 2023, 04:29:37 PM
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Next season is actually a pretty good opportunity for Juventus to develop, especially in Serie A even though Juventus is also included in the European Conference League Qualification. But Juventus generally have more time to focus more on Serie A because next season Juventus will need to prove to everyone that their abilities are still above average. And also still able to compete with the championship teams in Serie A.
The problem for Juventus is how they build their team for next season because several core players will definitely leave this club, and it will be a doubt whether they will be able to perform even better next season, and even if they only play for the Conference League it is not a certainty they will get easy resistance there considering that this team needs adaptation by being abandoned by their core players, it would be better for Juve to focus on domestic, but if they can also perform well at International why not but of course keeping it good in many tournaments will be difficult if the material the players don't support it.

Anyway, I still believe that Juventus always have a way of having a squad with good performances. Also, it seems I am pretty sure that Juventus will not fully prioritize for the Conference League, but if indeed Juventus can go far in the Conference League then it might just be an advantage for them. Because anyway, I'm very sure because Juventus only plays in the Conference League, and so it looks like Juventus will be more focused on Serie A. Therefore, I'm sure Juventus will again be a strong candidate in the race for the Scudetto title next season, and maybe the toughest competitor will be Inter.

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June 18, 2023, 04:50:33 PM
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Juventus experienced ups and downs last season and I really applaud their fortitude in dealing with these problems. Actually, deducting points isn't entirely bad, but it can't be said to be good either, because there is something even scarier, namely having to go down to Serie B if the problem proves to be so severe. Luckily Juventus don't lose their chance in Serie A next season and they can still compete again with other top teams to fight for the Scudetto. The only thing they regret is of course the Champions League place next season and they must be willing to play in Europe's lowest competition, namely the Conference League.
This point deduction penalty is the second time that has befallen Juventus after previously they had to go down to Serie B and had two Scudetto titles revoked due to a match fixing scandal. Juventus have accepted the consequences of the scandal they committed, appearing in the Conference League is not too bad for Juventus after seeing how their condition was last season. Juventus need to get the best touch next season to compete for the Scudetto, their improved form towards the end of the season needs to improve for next season to reclaim the first position that has not been felt since the last three seasons.

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June 18, 2023, 04:51:02 PM
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Next season is actually a pretty good opportunity for Juventus to develop, especially in Serie A even though Juventus is also included in the European Conference League Qualification. But Juventus generally have more time to focus more on Serie A because next season Juventus will need to prove to everyone that their abilities are still above average. And also still able to compete with the championship teams in Serie A.
The problem for Juventus is how they build their team for next season because several core players will definitely leave this club, and it will be a doubt whether they will be able to perform even better next season, and even if they only play for the Conference League it is not a certainty they will get easy resistance there considering that this team needs adaptation by being abandoned by their core players, it would be better for Juve to focus on domestic, but if they can also perform well at International why not but of course keeping it good in many tournaments will be difficult if the material the players don't support it.
Yes, another problem is that Juventus got a point deduction at the end of last season and that really hurt Juventus, not only failing to get a UCL ticket but maybe losing their core players, but I think this is why Juventus must learn and be able to make the bitter experience last season so they don't happen again next season, I might be happy if Juventus buy some new players to replace the void of players who left Juventus.

I think Juventus can adapt to the European international league if they are really ready with a better squad team than before, I also hope that Juventus will buy talented young players to be able to give a new color to the game so they can compete to win the Italian league next season too.

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June 18, 2023, 05:05:26 PM
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Based on the arrangement on ground, I don't think Napoli will miss next season title because Napoli president is very ready to use any amount of money to bring in talented players that can make things happen again for them to reign again in next season. I believe, Napoli next coach will going to be an excellent coach who will lead the team to achieve their goals that will make the whole world to celebrate them. Napoli goalkeeper has done well in this season, and I believe he will still do well to enable their players to work together to lead next season Italian league table.
Rudi Garcia took on a tough task after being officially appointed as the new coach of Napoli, he will find it difficult to defend the title next season because Serie A is very competitive. The money issued by the Napoli president to bring in new players is no guarantee that Napoli can defend the title next season.

I think your expectations are too high for the new Napoli coach. I hope you don't forget the situation PSG is in. Although the club owner has shaped the PSG squad to become one of the most luxurious squads in the world, PSG has not been able to win the Champions League title. The role of the coach determines the success of a team, Rudi Garcia is not a reliable coach like Pep Guardiola, Ancelotti and Zidane. He was just sacked by Al Nassr before getting a new job at Napoli, I doubt he can make the whole world celebrate Napoli's success like you said.

The expectation is going to be really high from Rudy Garcia. So that is going to put on some added pressure on him from the start. I also believe that people are going to be really fast to point fingers towards him because Napoli are going to be the defending champion. I really did not think that a coach who got sacked by Al Nassr was actually going to be recruited by Napoli. I think that was not the right decision to make. But I might be speaking too soon. Probably he will be able to achieve good results with Napoli. But I do highly doubt that.

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June 18, 2023, 05:19:38 PM
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In fact, the internal problems faced by the Juventus team, such as the reduction in points that occurred last season, greatly affected their performance.
If you look at the games they had last season and the players in their squad I don't think it's too bad, and they also made it to the semi-finals in the Europa League.
But it's a shame that the Juventus team couldn't finish in the top 4 positions, maybe next season they will be very focused on Serie A alone to be able to compete strictly for the Scudetto again.
Now several Serie A teams have started to wake up and perform much better, Serie A is much more competitive and the same goes for teams who want to compete for the Scudetto, they must be able to improve even more.
Juventus' performance this season is no better than last season. Even if Juventus would have basically qualified for the Champions League if there were no points deducted, their form this season has not been very good. Juventus have lost 10 and drawn 6 in 38 matches, but their points tally is even better than last season.

Juventus is a good team to present a title race in Serie A, so of course they will be a strong contender for the title after 3 consecutive seasons failing to win it since 2019. They will focus on Serie A as well as the European Conference League but I am not sure if they will win the title next season.

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June 18, 2023, 05:31:36 PM
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What was even more painful for Juventus was when they received a point deduction and were given back, after that they actually received a point deduction. If you look at their game, they actually showed good progress after they had such difficulties at the start of the season, it's just that towards the end of the season they experienced the same thing, namely playing under-performing again which made them lose a lot of points. I think that is a form of disappointment which in the end makes their mental state a little disturbed by what they get, so that it has an impact on their unsatisfactory game.
Yeah, that period had a sliver of hope, because they were feeling like they got rid of that problem and would be doing fine. Honestly I can't really remember any time when a team that points penalty twice in a single season, sure seen a team get it once, but a team getting it once, then taken back and then given it again feels like there isn't really all that common, that might be the first ever time I have seen it. Definitely ruins the psychology of people and that should be a difficult one.

In the end, I feel like they will do fine, it's Juventus and no matter how much they go down, they will end up doing better, because they are managed properly with a great fan base which means they will always have some money to play with and can get better, even if it takes a while.

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June 18, 2023, 05:38:12 PM
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Last season was indeed a bad one for the Old Ladies of Turin because of the court decisions that went against them and that is also why they'll not be playing in the UEFA Champions League competition come next season.
The point deduction is now a thing of the past but the club's management needs to be careful in involving themselves in similar dealings that led to the point deduction and also the players of the club must step up and take the club to where they belong once again
Juventus experienced ups and downs last season and I really applaud their fortitude in dealing with these problems. Actually, deducting points isn't entirely bad, but it can't be said to be good either, because there is something even scarier, namely having to go down to Serie B if the problem proves to be so severe. Luckily Juventus don't lose their chance in Serie A next season and they can still compete again with other top teams to fight for the Scudetto. The only thing they regret is of course the Champions League place next season and they must be willing to play in Europe's lowest competition, namely the Conference League.
We can say that this year has been very difficult for Juventus. If they had not lost points, they could have finished the league in second place, but they lost points. Due to these points losses, they could not focus on the league after a while. Of course they wanted to be in UCL next year, but now they have to settle for the tournament they go to.

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June 18, 2023, 05:40:55 PM
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Next season is actually a pretty good opportunity for Juventus to develop, especially in Serie A even though Juventus is also included in the European Conference League Qualification. But Juventus generally have more time to focus more on Serie A because next season Juventus will need to prove to everyone that their abilities are still above average. And also still able to compete with the championship teams in Serie A.
The problem for Juventus is how they build their team for next season because several core players will definitely leave this club, and it will be a doubt whether they will be able to perform even better next season, and even if they only play for the Conference League it is not a certainty they will get easy resistance there considering that this team needs adaptation by being abandoned by their core players, it would be better for Juve to focus on domestic, but if they can also perform well at International why not but of course keeping it good in many tournaments will be difficult if the material the players don't support it.
Yes, another problem is that Juventus got a point deduction at the end of last season and that really hurt Juventus, not only failing to get a UCL ticket but maybe losing their core players, but I think this is why Juventus must learn and be able to make the bitter experience last season so they don't happen again next season, I might be happy if Juventus buy some new players to replace the void of players who left Juventus.

I think Juventus can adapt to the European international league if they are really ready with a better squad team than before, I also hope that Juventus will buy talented young players to be able to give a new color to the game so they can compete to win the Italian league next season too.
The point is quite important here because indeed at this point learning from mistakes is the right thing to say to Juventus.
They must realize that their actions are wrong and this is detrimental to themselves so that in this way they can think further before committing actions that are considered prohibited and violate the rules.
This season they have been tough enough with a storm of injuries that has even been going on since the start of the season and with points deducted as a result of being proven guilty of several violating actions which also resulted in several of their officials being punished and of course Juventus also getting the effects.
Next season they have to do something reasonable so that a storm like this doesn't happen to them again.
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This point deduction penalty is the second time that has befallen Juventus after previously they had to go down to Serie B and had two Scudetto titles revoked due to a match fixing scandal. Juventus have accepted the consequences of the scandal they committed, appearing in the Conference League is not too bad for Juventus after seeing how their condition was last season. Juventus need to get the best touch next season to compete for the Scudetto, their improved form towards the end of the season needs to improve for next season to reclaim the first position that has not been felt since the last three seasons.
First announced with 15 points deduction made bigger impact with Juventus has inconsistent performance although success won  games in a row, although success appeal awhile until FIGC suspend later with 10 points cut off have bad side for Juventus performance and loss many points until dropped from Champion League and Europe League standings spot. But lucky for Juventus after 10 points cut off by finish on UEFA Conference League next season.

For next season, Juventus should back to the top performance and keep in tittle race, since winning Serie A on season 2019/20  Juventus was failed winning domestic league three season in a row and bad achievement regarding Juventus ever become the winner six time in a row.

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June 18, 2023, 06:15:51 PM
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Last season was indeed a bad one for the Old Ladies of Turin because of the court decisions that went against them and that is also why they'll not be playing in the UEFA Champions League competition come next season.
The point deduction is now a thing of the past but the club's management needs to be careful in involving themselves in similar dealings that led to the point deduction and also the players of the club must step up and take the club to where they belong once again
Juventus experienced ups and downs last season and I really applaud their fortitude in dealing with these problems. Actually, deducting points isn't entirely bad, but it can't be said to be good either, because there is something even scarier, namely having to go down to Serie B if the problem proves to be so severe. Luckily Juventus don't lose their chance in Serie A next season and they can still compete again with other top teams to fight for the Scudetto. The only thing they regret is of course the Champions League place next season and they must be willing to play in Europe's lowest competition, namely the Conference League.
We can say that this year has been very difficult for Juventus. If they had not lost points, they could have finished the league in second place, but they lost points. Due to these points losses, they could not focus on the league after a while. Of course they wanted to be in UCL next year, but now they have to settle for the tournament they go to.
Juventus went ahead in the points table with a good number of points but again fell far behind.  Whether they can do better this year is doubtful. Juventus is not a bad team but because of their poor performance this year Napoli, Lazio, Inter, Milan have become challenging teams for them. this weakness they will not be able to overcome this year, so the chances of Napoli becoming champions this year are high

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June 18, 2023, 07:25:07 PM
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This point deduction penalty is the second time that has befallen Juventus after previously they had to go down to Serie B and had two Scudetto titles revoked due to a match fixing scandal. Juventus have accepted the consequences of the scandal they committed, appearing in the Conference League is not too bad for Juventus after seeing how their condition was last season. Juventus need to get the best touch next season to compete for the Scudetto, their improved form towards the end of the season needs to improve for next season to reclaim the first position that has not been felt since the last three seasons.
First announced with 15 points deduction made bigger impact with Juventus has inconsistent performance although success won  games in a row, although success appeal awhile until FIGC suspend later with 10 points cut off have bad side for Juventus performance and loss many points until dropped from Champion League and Europe League standings spot. But lucky for Juventus after 10 points cut off by finish on UEFA Conference League next season.

For next season, Juventus should back to the top performance and keep in tittle race, since winning Serie A on season 2019/20  Juventus was failed winning domestic league three season in a row and bad achievement regarding Juventus ever become the winner six time in a row.

I hope there are no problems going on with Juventus right now. Because I do not want to see them lose points in the next season as well. This just takes out the fun. In the last season, they were not rewarded for their hard work. I hope that does not happen again with any team. I want to see Juventus fight for the title in the next season. I believe they are not going to change the manager. Honestly, I also do not see a better option right now if they decide to actually change their manager. I think he's doing a good job and he should get financial support. Though I am not sure if he's going to stay the manager of Juventus the next season or not.

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June 18, 2023, 07:45:02 PM
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This point deduction penalty is the second time that has befallen Juventus after previously they had to go down to Serie B and had two Scudetto titles revoked due to a match fixing scandal. Juventus have accepted the consequences of the scandal they committed, appearing in the Conference League is not too bad for Juventus after seeing how their condition was last season. Juventus need to get the best touch next season to compete for the Scudetto, their improved form towards the end of the season needs to improve for next season to reclaim the first position that has not been felt since the last three seasons.
First announced with 15 points deduction made bigger impact with Juventus has inconsistent performance although success won  games in a row, although success appeal awhile until FIGC suspend later with 10 points cut off have bad side for Juventus performance and loss many points until dropped from Champion League and Europe League standings spot. But lucky for Juventus after 10 points cut off by finish on UEFA Conference League next season.

For next season, Juventus should back to the top performance and keep in tittle race, since winning Serie A on season 2019/20  Juventus was failed winning domestic league three season in a row and bad achievement regarding Juventus ever become the winner six time in a row.

I hope there are no problems going on with Juventus right now. Because I do not want to see them lose points in the next season as well. This just takes out the fun. In the last season, they were not rewarded for their hard work. I hope that does not happen again with any team. I want to see Juventus fight for the title in the next season. I believe they are not going to change the manager. Honestly, I also do not see a better option right now if they decide to actually change their manager. I think he's doing a good job and he should get financial support. Though I am not sure if he's going to stay the manager of Juventus the next season or not.

Juventus is a good team and they have done well in many leagues which we have seen before but it is not possible for a team to play well all the time. as many teams as there are in a league, all the teams are selected and given a chance in the league, so it is not right to think of any team as weak.  Juventus have a lot of tough opponents in this year's Italian league so they can't get into a good position behind their strong opponents. Juventus wasted a long time so they cannot do well now. so it would be stupid things to expect Juventus to do well this year
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June 18, 2023, 07:54:29 PM
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Last season was indeed a bad one for the Old Ladies of Turin because of the court decisions that went against them and that is also why they'll not be playing in the UEFA Champions League competition come next season.
The point deduction is now a thing of the past but the club's management needs to be careful in involving themselves in similar dealings that led to the point deduction and also the players of the club must step up and take the club to where they belong once again
Juventus experienced ups and downs last season and I really applaud their fortitude in dealing with these problems. Actually, deducting points isn't entirely bad, but it can't be said to be good either, because there is something even scarier, namely having to go down to Serie B if the problem proves to be so severe. Luckily Juventus don't lose their chance in Serie A next season and they can still compete again with other top teams to fight for the Scudetto. The only thing they regret is of course the Champions League place next season and they must be willing to play in Europe's lowest competition, namely the Conference League.

It is clear that they will be one of the important candidates in the Scudetto race next year. It may be a disappointment for Juventus this year, but I think they should continue to Serie A with a squad that they have high hopes for next year. They have important stars and they should not send those stars from the team.

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June 18, 2023, 07:56:59 PM
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Work to be done for Juventus. Became champion of Italy 10 years in a row, and not for 3 seasons in a row. This year Napoli was of a different level, but the seasons before that with Inter and AC Milan respectively were seasons in which it was mainly due to Juventus themselves that they did not become champions in my opinion. The question is how they will do next season, the change of the trainer came late, but was necessary if it is going to happen this year. Since Allegri has been at the helm at Juventus since 2021, the performance has been very poor without a national title. That can hardly be a coincidence.

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June 18, 2023, 08:10:30 PM
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What was even more painful for Juventus was when they received a point deduction and were given back, after that they actually received a point deduction. If you look at their game, they actually showed good progress after they had such difficulties at the start of the season, it's just that towards the end of the season they experienced the same thing, namely playing under-performing again which made them lose a lot of points. I think that is a form of disappointment which in the end makes their mental state a little disturbed by what they get, so that it has an impact on their unsatisfactory game.
Yeah, that period had a sliver of hope, because they were feeling like they got rid of that problem and would be doing fine. Honestly I can't really remember any time when a team that points penalty twice in a single season, sure seen a team get it once, but a team getting it once, then taken back and then given it again feels like there isn't really all that common, that might be the first ever time I have seen it. Definitely ruins the psychology of people and that should be a difficult one.

In the end, I feel like they will do fine, it's Juventus and no matter how much they go down, they will end up doing better, because they are managed properly with a great fan base which means they will always have some money to play with and can get better, even if it takes a while.
I think the same in this case even I seem to have just seen something like this where the Juventus drama even though it hurts them but in my opinion this is something funny when the Federation there does something that is actually out of control where reductions and returns then reductions are made again . The actual decision was quite strange because it seemed that apart from the lack of firmness, there were several other conditions in it.
Mentality is obviously very hit in this regard because however the evidence that in the last few matches they have not done well especially with a humiliating 4-1 loss to Empoli on the same day that the decision was made is one of the proofs that their focus is diminishing.

Players and coaches are trying their best this season but indeed their unfavorable conditions make them have to be willing to be in the Conference League next season.

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Juventus is a good team and they have done well in many leagues which we have seen before but it is not possible for a team to play well all the time. as many teams as there are in a league, all the teams are selected and given a chance in the league, so it is not right to think of any team as weak.  Juventus have a lot of tough opponents in this year's Italian league so they can't get into a good position behind their strong opponents. Juventus wasted a long time so they cannot do well now. so it would be stupid things to expect Juventus to do well this year

Juventus had also done well in the last season. Well, I agree that it is impossible for any team to perform well all of the time. But it actually hurts really badly if everyone has done everything and they should be the winner of the league, but still, there are some bullshit reasons why they are not being able to achieve that. I hope nothing like that happens in the next season, and I also hope that the next season is going to be played fairly.

I really think Juventus should have been given a fine of a good amount of money. That was also going to give a lot of problems because they do not have a huge amount of money lying around right now. But I somehow believe that it was a very clever decision to take away points. Because money wouldn’t have had this much effect on Juventus, which taking away the points had.

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June 18, 2023, 08:24:18 PM
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Last season was indeed a bad one for the Old Ladies of Turin because of the court decisions that went against them and that is also why they'll not be playing in the UEFA Champions League competition come next season.
The point deduction is now a thing of the past but the club's management needs to be careful in involving themselves in similar dealings that led to the point deduction and also the players of the club must step up and take the club to where they belong once again
Juventus experienced ups and downs last season and I really applaud their fortitude in dealing with these problems. Actually, deducting points isn't entirely bad, but it can't be said to be good either, because there is something even scarier, namely having to go down to Serie B if the problem proves to be so severe. Luckily Juventus don't lose their chance in Serie A next season and they can still compete again with other top teams to fight for the Scudetto. The only thing they regret is of course the Champions League place next season and they must be willing to play in Europe's lowest competition, namely the Conference League.

It is clear that they will be one of the important candidates in the Scudetto race next year. It may be a disappointment for Juventus this year, but I think they should continue to Serie A with a squad that they have high hopes for next year. They have important stars and they should not send those stars from the team.
At least Juventus have tried their best to look good last season even though there were too many obstacles to overcome.
It's possible that Juventus may not be a candidate for the Scudetto in the summer but I'm sure there will definitely be a change in performance for the Juventus players.
Even though Juventus are only able to compete in the conference league, I will be more certain that in the new season at least Juventus will be able to get Europa League tickets.

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June 18, 2023, 08:32:04 PM
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It is clear that they will be one of the important candidates in the Scudetto race next year. It may be a disappointment for Juventus this year, but I think they should continue to Serie A with a squad that they have high hopes for next year. They have important stars and they should not send those stars from the team.
All teams have tough times and it is only to be expected that after so many years of dominance, Juventus have gone into decline. If this all ends, then it will not be such a difficult crisis for the team, although they had to go through points deductions and many unpleasant moments, but I think that they were able to pass this period with dignity and next season they will be able to compete for the Scudetto. I don't know if Naploi will be able to show the same results next season, as the team is waiting for changes.

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June 18, 2023, 09:41:18 PM
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I would like it if Napoli is as good as last season. But somehow I think that a number of players will leave for the EPL for hefty sums. That's where the biggest money is in football in Europe. I don't see Otamendi going to Qatar any time soon. But how should we rate Juventus? I thought that Allegri has only been coach of Juventus since 2021, at least that's the information from Wikipedia. Seems like he's been out of there for a few months or years? Does anyone know exactly what that is? Because in principle he has been a coach at Juventus continuously for years, hasn't he?

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June 18, 2023, 09:58:03 PM
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The expectation is going to be really high from Rudy Garcia. So that is going to put on some added pressure on him from the start. I also believe that people are going to be really fast to point fingers towards him because Napoli are going to be the defending champion. I really did not think that a coach who got sacked by Al Nassr was actually going to be recruited by Napoli. I think that was not the right decision to make. But I might be speaking too soon. Probably he will be able to achieve good results with Napoli. But I do highly doubt that.
Indeed. Most people will be pessimistic about Rudy Garcia since he did a bad result in Al Nassr. Rudy Garcia also never won any title in Serie A, he only won 2 titles in France. If we consider his stats, we can understand if many people are pessimistic about him. Moreover, if we compare him with Spalletti, Spalletti's quality must be better than him. So, it is very questionable whether he can make Napoli be strong enough in the next season. It will be worse if there are some key players leaving the club in the current transfer window. Napoli should be decreasing its strength, we can see it toward the end of the season last week when some key players were injured.

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