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June 28, 2022, 09:35:31 PM
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I would say the "legend status" is a little bit overused at Anfield Smiley But it is because Klopp has a pretty strong character and he doesn't talk bad about any player when they leave. He even fiercely protected Karius back at the time when he failed twice big time in the CL final against Madrid.

I think that is a good way to behave. Soccer is business after all and everyone involved should know that.

Think about the new contract of Mbappe in Paris: everyone was screaming at him because he didn't go to Real Madrid. But let's be real, if someone puts a case with 300 million just as a signing fee in front of your eyes, what would you do?

So Origi is indeed an interesting player as he has good statistics in terms time played : scorer points ratio. He can definitely be a good addition to any team. Coming to another club with a "legend status" can't hurt Wink

Ha, I sort of agree and disagree. Maybe take out what Klopp might say (he speaks from the heart but I don't recall him ever saying legend and Karius in the same sentence haha) and no, we don't always label people here and there.

But Liverpool (or should I say Anfield) does have a way of conferring their love for the best-loved players... cult heroes I can call them, who don't necessarily achieve much, but play with heart. No one will be able to say, for example, Igor Biscan was a legendary player, but he was loved (and  I too!)... and certain of his place in Anfield lore. Cult favourite, he even had a nickname Zinedine Biscan haha but man, he played his heart out against United and Arsenal... and you know Anfield will love you forever for that.

As for Origi: cult favourite, hero for sure. But I do think of him as a legend as well, simply for some extremely defining moments such as the 2 goals against Barcelona? And the way the goals were scored? Wow, that goal is replayed a hundred times. And his header against Everton in the final moment to keep our hopes alive for the title? Wow. One from an amazing corner from Trent, the other from some crazy punt from VVD. And again last December against Wolves, 0-1 Liverpool injury time goal from Origi... and Klopp apparently told him on substituting him in: "Just be Divock".

Legend.

Well, what can I say against the points you brought up? Wink

Lol, yes, Karius' story at Liverpool was a tough one. But Karius seems to me as if he is more about enjoying live than being a pro athlete. There are more reports about him being with new chicks and changing his hairstyle than about his efforts and achievements in his career as a pro. He was fine with having a contract in Liverpool, earning good money and call it a day. Sure he was disappointed about the CL final, but still there is this attitude where you feel someone really wants to make it back into the first squad, and I never had that feeling about Karius. Maybe he just doesn't have sufficient talent in the first place. But attitude and character and willpower doesn't seem to be on an absolute top level either for Karius.

Regarding Origi: true points! From that perspective, yes, you can become a legend because of a single action in your professional career - Mario Götze 2014! Wink

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June 28, 2022, 10:05:35 PM
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I am at a loss here and I think a lot of people are as well. Cristiano Ronaldo is clearly not happy in Manchester United and even though he is a really good player I don’t think a lot of teams are very interested in him. Even though Cristiano Ronaldo is a player of high caliber at this moment it feels like he’s not going to be good in any top tier team composition. This is a really weird situation to be in especially when he does not have too much time left in his career. I have always been thinking that he should not stay in Manchester United but right now it does feel like if he is able to play well in Manchester United and Manchester United also produce some good results, in the next season (the season after this) it will be really great to see him play in the champions league.


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What do you say? Is Ronaldo not good for now? this is a joke dude. Saying he is not good now and is not wanted by any club is clearly something that is the opposite because putting aside the productivity or performance issues that made him big now.
Rumors about Ronaldo's displeasure at Manchester United have now become the subject of conversation and are now widely associated with big teams. Imagine if he made a statement like Lewandowski, for example, who didn't want to play again at Bayern. I don't think even a club that has the money and capacity will be involved in thle hunt for his signature.

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June 28, 2022, 11:26:12 PM
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The problem is Ronaldo himself is indecisive right now. A lot of people are saying that he should stay at Manchester United and others are saying that he really should move. I also think that he actually should move and not stay.
Only Man United fans who expect him to stay. I'm a Ronaldo fan, I also think that he must leave now. It is difficult to expect Man United to win EPL title, he only wastes the time to stay and dream about it. Moreover, there is a rumor that the new coach excludes him from his plan for the next season. It is enough to be the reason for leaving as soon as possible. 

We all know that he doesn’t have too many things left to achieve in his career. But he has reached the end of his career. It is going to be really better for him if he is able to achieve as much as he can in these times.
Yep, he is at the end of his career. He may plan to retire after he reached 40+. So, it is time to play in another new league. If Bayern seriously makes an offer to him, I am sure Ronaldo will be happy to accept it. Moreover, Bayern is one of the strongest clubs in the world that always plays in UCL competition every season.

The problem is he is old and I don’t think teams are going to be investing in him at this stage of his career.
His age isn't a big problem as long as he can contribute very well. Not every club buys a player for future investment, sometimes a club signs a player to bring instant effect to their performance. Ronaldo is still able to give his best form, having him on the squad will improve the whole players' mentality/confidence as well. There is nothing wrong to spend money for signing him.


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June 29, 2022, 12:33:35 AM
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We all know that he doesn’t have too many things left to achieve in his career. But he has reached the end of his career. It is going to be really better for him if he is able to achieve as much as he can in these times.
Yep, he is at the end of his career. He may plan to retire after he reached 40+. So, it is time to play in another new league. If Bayern seriously makes an offer to him, I am sure Ronaldo will be happy to accept it. Moreover, Bayern is one of the strongest clubs in the world that always plays in UCL competition every season.

the only right choice right now is Bayern Munich, because Ronaldo is really obsessed with the Champions League and English clubs like Liverpool, Manchester City, Chelsea, Tottenham and even Manchester United don't compete in the champions league.

Other rumors circulating about Ronaldo's new PSG project are also not suitable.

Bayern Munich actually has no interest in buying ronaldo, but Jorge Mendes as CR7 agent asked questions about buying ronaldo for next season. Suddenly Bayern looked confused when offered ronaldo. Jorge Mender also emphasized that if an agent offers Ronaldo, don't look at his age, but look at his performance.

It's just a rumor stage and it's normal to talk about Ronaldo. We are waiting for a direct statement from Cristiano Ronaldo CR7.

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Allegri is the type of coach who needs a creator from midfield, the arrival of Di Maria will fill that need. However,  will see how Di Maria with Allegri, if he can adapt with stragy from Allegry very well, then Juventus has a much greater chance of becoming champions than Milan. This will be a season that will be more interesting, because the arrival of Pogba and Di Maria will add to the strength of Juventus in destroying Milan duo that dominated Serie A last season.
Juventus looks scary if Di Maria and Pogba will join in the same season. Obviously it will add to their strength but I don't expect many people to underestimate Milan who have actually come back from their dark days without a title. In the last two seasons Milan managed to get out of a lot of trouble and they also managed to get into the top 4 teams playing for the Champions League, it is clear to me that they deserve to be reckoned with and cannot be underestimated at all.

In my opinion, Milan will try to strengthen its team with a number of players and is the right step to anticipate the chances of other teams like Juventus, Inter and Napoli to dominate. I want them to continue their good form for the new season and I will continue to support them to win. One thing is for sure, Serie A is getting more and more interesting after Milan won the title last season.

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According to the news on Goal.com, Juventus are opening talks with Nicolo Zaniolo now. He is a 22-year-old big talent for Roma and he is valued around 33 million euros in the transfer market currently according to Transfermarkt. So far in his career, he had two serious injuries in the 19/20 and 20/21 seasons. His being injury prone might scare Juventus a little but it looks like they are going for him anyway. It would be a wonderful transfer for Juventus together with signing Paul Pogba also. Zaniolo is a right winger normally but he can play even as a second striker too. After releasing Dybala this might come in handy for them.

https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/juventus-talks-roma-50m-rated-italy-zaniolo/bltf22dad9884016603
Zaniolo had serious injured history even on 2020 he almost be retired because feel frustratic and regarding his price tag Roma want he will be sell worth to 50 millions euro i think he is overpriced especially his statistics for every seasons he hasn't too sharp even on last season he only score 2 goals in all competitions so i think this is not impressive statistics for me but seems Juventus very serious want him and Juventus will offering their player Arthur as part of the deal even if this transfer went to deadlock Juventus asking Roma for Loan purpose with buy option at the end of next season

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June 29, 2022, 04:45:57 AM
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Allegri is the type of coach who needs a creator from midfield, the arrival of Di Maria will fill that need. However,  will see how Di Maria with Allegri, if he can adapt with stragy from Allegry very well, then Juventus has a much greater chance of becoming champions than Milan. This will be a season that will be more interesting, because the arrival of Pogba and Di Maria will add to the strength of Juventus in destroying Milan duo that dominated Serie A last season.
Juventus looks scary if Di Maria and Pogba will join in the same season. Obviously it will add to their strength but I don't expect many people to underestimate Milan who have actually come back from their dark days without a title. In the last two seasons Milan managed to get out of a lot of trouble and they also managed to get into the top 4 teams playing for the Champions League, it is clear to me that they deserve to be reckoned with and cannot be underestimated at all.

In my opinion, Milan will try to strengthen its team with a number of players and is the right step to anticipate the chances of other teams like Juventus, Inter and Napoli to dominate. I want them to continue their good form for the new season and I will continue to support them to win. One thing is for sure, Serie A is getting more and more interesting after Milan won the title last season.
Indeed, the title race has become more interesting with Inter and Milan having won the title in the last two seasons but unfortunately, Milan are still not strong enough to compete in the Champions League. So yes, both Inter and Milan are only strong in Serie A but next season I'm sure Juventus will be the ones to dominate the league, because apart from the previously mentioned names like Pogba and Di Maria, actually Juventus is still being rumored with Neymar. Although indeed, signing Neymar is something that will not happen, but we do not know what will happen in the future. Juventus have Di Maria, Pogba, Vlahovic and Chiesa, of course it will be a fast attack and very dangerous.

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June 29, 2022, 06:39:03 AM
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According to the news on Goal.com, Juventus are opening talks with Nicolo Zaniolo now. He is a 22-year-old big talent for Roma and he is valued around 33 million euros in the transfer market currently according to Transfermarkt. So far in his career, he had two serious injuries in the 19/20 and 20/21 seasons. His being injury prone might scare Juventus a little but it looks like they are going for him anyway. It would be a wonderful transfer for Juventus together with signing Paul Pogba also. Zaniolo is a right winger normally but he can play even as a second striker too. After releasing Dybala this might come in handy for them.

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Zaniolo had serious injured history even on 2020 he almost be retired because feel frustratic and regarding his price tag Roma want he will be sell worth to 50 millions euro i think he is overpriced especially his statistics for every seasons he hasn't too sharp even on last season he only score 2 goals in all competitions so i think this is not impressive statistics for me but seems Juventus very serious want him and Juventus will offering their player Arthur as part of the deal even if this transfer went to deadlock Juventus asking Roma for Loan purpose with buy option at the end of next season
Injuring the ACL twice at a relatively young age clearly gave a big enough trauma and mental shock because the ACL can kill a footballer's career, even though we can still see some fierce players even after experiencing the ACL, but the ACL is still a big enemy. for football players.
But looking at the statistics you have shown, it is clear that the price is too high, but indeed we can also see that Juventus really wants to bring in this player, so I think any conditions will be passed to get this player's signature.

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June 29, 2022, 06:48:04 AM
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I agree with you
I don't know this player very much, but he looks good and certainly can give a lot of help to the team, which suffered a lot in the previous season

I'm not saying that he solves everything, but he certainly gives a hand
I need other players in my opinion (also in defense)
Well, I can tell you that Di Maria is a player of great quality. He has helped Real Madrid win a number of titles, he has also helped PSG win titles, so I think he can also help Juventus achieve the same feat at the end of the season, but of course Di Maria cannot do it alone.

I wanted to tell you about some of Di Maria's stats so far, but unfortunately I can't access the data from Transfermarkt at this time. So I can assure you that Di Maria is worthy of Juventus.

yes I agree with you, absolutely
but i'm saying something else, i'm saying that this player alone is not enough to get a team back on its feet that has been shaky all season
according to me of course
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June 29, 2022, 07:13:03 AM
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but i'm saying something else, i'm saying that this player alone is not enough to get a team back on its feet that has been shaky all season
according to me of course
Cheesy
I agree with you, that's why every team shouldn't just rely on certain players to get back to their best. Juventus didn't do well last season even though they qualified for the Champions League, but it wasn't the result they hoped for as they were desperate to win the title.

Di Maria and Pogba will be mainstays this season at Juventus, it's good that they are expected to contribute to the team and improve team performance. However, I'm sure other teams will also try to be the best and both fight for the title in the 2022/2023 season.

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June 29, 2022, 07:16:03 AM
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Now I think this season may even be difficult to predict for Milan because indeed they are also very difficult with the crisis they have at the moment and this obviously makes it even more difficult for them to focus and improve the team for next season.
Now it seems that Inter and Juventus are more ready to go through the season even though they are still struggling financially but much better than Milan.

Although there are not many changes in the team, I believe Leao and Giroud are able to provide a balance to face the tough competition between Inter and Milan. Juventus, I am still waiting for a significant change in the team formation to see Juventus compete with Inter and Milan. But don't forget Napoli, they are doing well and will probably be enemies next season. Even though they lost Lorenzo Insigne, but lazio the arrival of young players like Khvicha Kvaratskhelia

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June 29, 2022, 07:30:17 AM
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There is also a rumour about Chelsea trying to sign De Ligt and exchange it with Werner and maybe others. Juve transfer window is pretty hot Wink

There has been so much fuss about De Ligt making a move to Chelsea. My unpopular opinion is that very strong players are always good to have them with you rather than as opponents, but it is also true that you have to sell them while they are young and have market. The more years you wait the less they are worth, so if we have to deprive ourselves of them it's better to do it now.

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June 29, 2022, 07:54:50 AM
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I agree with you
I don't know this player very much, but he looks good and certainly can give a lot of help to the team, which suffered a lot in the previous season

I'm not saying that he solves everything, but he certainly gives a hand
I need other players in my opinion (also in defense)
Well, I can tell you that Di Maria is a player of great quality. He has helped Real Madrid win a number of titles, he has also helped PSG win titles, so I think he can also help Juventus achieve the same feat at the end of the season, but of course Di Maria cannot do it alone.
Di Maria's quality and experience can help Juventus win the Scudetto again, but as you said, Di Maria cannot do it alone without the support of other players. After the midfield problems were resolved, Juventus also had to improve their defense and attack power. The main problem is that the Juventus defense is still very fragile, Juventus must move quickly to find a replacement for Chiellini who left Juventus at the end of last season.

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June 29, 2022, 08:09:18 AM
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Di Maria's quality and experience can help Juventus win the Scudetto again, but as you said, Di Maria cannot do it alone without the support of other players. After the midfield problems were resolved, Juventus also had to improve their defense and attack power. The main problem is that the Juventus defense is still very fragile, Juventus must move quickly to find a replacement for Chiellini who left Juventus at the end of last season.
There are several good defenders to choose from for Allegri next season such as Bonucci and Matthijs de Ligt, but the need for a central defender for the 2022/2023 season is still highly expected considering that Juventus quite often rely on 3 defenders for a scheme or formation 3-5-2 . Rumors of Monaco defender Guillermo Maripán also sound good for Juventus, but they are yet to be confirmed.

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Well, what can I say against the points you brought up? Wink

Lol, yes, Karius' story at Liverpool was a tough one. But Karius seems to me as if he is more about enjoying live than being a pro athlete. There are more reports about him being with new chicks and changing his hairstyle than about his efforts and achievements in his career as a pro. He was fine with having a contract in Liverpool, earning good money and call it a day. Sure he was disappointed about the CL final, but still there is this attitude where you feel someone really wants to make it back into the first squad, and I never had that feeling about Karius. Maybe he just doesn't have sufficient talent in the first place. But attitude and character and willpower doesn't seem to be on an absolute top level either for Karius.

Regarding Origi: true points! From that perspective, yes, you can become a legend because of a single action in your professional career - Mario Götze 2014! Wink

Yeah, probably why he didn't get sympathy from most people. Still don't really know why Klopp defended him so much, especially as he is quick to sever ties when crossed (I'm thinking of Sakho for example). When Mane or Salah lose a game, they're up til early morning to train, angry as fck and wanting to be even better. I remember Mane even complaining about himself last season when he was still performing better than most!

Attitude, for sure, always attitude. And we had that in spades from guys like Lallana, Origi, Ings, who played their hearts out to make it into first team.

And you know what I'm talking about haha Gotze! Same as Alisson final-play goal header to take us to Paris...

I even want to say Zidane vs Materazzi as legend-making but Zizou was already legendary long before that plus would be pissed if I said so haha.

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June 29, 2022, 08:54:20 AM
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Di Maria's quality and experience can help Juventus win the Scudetto again, but as you said, Di Maria cannot do it alone without the support of other players. After the midfield problems were resolved, Juventus also had to improve their defense and attack power. The main problem is that the Juventus defense is still very fragile, Juventus must move quickly to find a replacement for Chiellini who left Juventus at the end of last season.
There are several good defenders to choose from for Allegri next season such as Bonucci and Matthijs de Ligt, but the need for a central defender for the 2022/2023 season is still highly expected considering that Juventus quite often rely on 3 defenders for a scheme or formation 3-5-2 . Rumors of Monaco defender Guillermo Maripán also sound good for Juventus, but they are yet to be confirmed.

Although Juventus still have Bonucci and Matthijs de Light as defenders, Juventus must immediately find a replacement for Chiellini. In addition
to considering if one of De Light or Bonucci is injured, Juventus is also less solid if they have to play with a 3 defender formation. Therefore,
one of the main focuses of Juventus should be to bring in a quality defender, so next season the Juventus defense will be more solid. The Juventus
midfield is quite good with the arrival of Paul Pogba and Angel Di Maria, maybe the front line also Juventus should bring in at least one player,
because Juventus lost Dybala and Morata. According to rumors, Juventus are competing for Domenico Berardi from Sassuolo. If it is true that
Juventus managed to get Berardi, this could be good news, because Berardi's performances this season with Sassuolo have been very good.

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June 29, 2022, 08:57:36 AM
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Di Maria's quality and experience can help Juventus win the Scudetto again, but as you said, Di Maria cannot do it alone without the support of other players. After the midfield problems were resolved, Juventus also had to improve their defense and attack power. The main problem is that the Juventus defense is still very fragile, Juventus must move quickly to find a replacement for Chiellini who left Juventus at the end of last season.
There are several good defenders to choose from for Allegri next season such as Bonucci and Matthijs de Ligt, but the need for a central defender for the 2022/2023 season is still highly expected considering that Juventus quite often rely on 3 defenders for a scheme or formation 3-5-2 . Rumors of Monaco defender Guillermo Maripán also sound good for Juventus, but they are yet to be confirmed.
Bonucci and Matthijs de Ligt are two centre-backs and when it comes to new signings for centre-backs, those new signings would be second-tier players or to prepare if Bonucci retires. Basically the current Juventus squad is already very good from the goalkeepers and defenders everything is already in a good squad and in midfield until the Juventus striker has looked even better for next season. I personally don't see any drawbacks in any of Juventus' lines at the moment, although indeed, young, talented players are a must-have considering regeneration is an important part of maintaining a good performance.

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June 29, 2022, 09:08:57 AM
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Juventus have only Bonucci, de Ligt and Rugani as defenders now. Chiellini is leaving to join Los Angeles FC as you must have heard already. I think that Juventus will need to sign at least one defender to keep themselves decent about their defense. de Ligt is also rumoured to leave by the way as Chelsea are highly interested in him. But if Juventus let him go by only his release clause then this transfer may not happen. Because his release clause is worth 120 million euros.

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June 29, 2022, 09:11:30 AM
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Although Juventus still have Bonucci and Matthijs de Light as defenders, Juventus must immediately find a replacement for Chiellini. In addition
to considering if one of De Light or Bonucci is injured, Juventus is also less solid if they have to play with a 3 defender formation. Therefore,
one of the main focuses of Juventus should be to bring in a quality defender, so next season the Juventus defense will be more solid. The Juventus
midfield is quite good with the arrival of Paul Pogba and Angel Di Maria, maybe the front line also Juventus should bring in at least one player,
because Juventus lost Dybala and Morata. According to rumors, Juventus are competing for Domenico Berardi from Sassuolo. If it is true that
Juventus managed to get Berardi, this could be good news, because Berardi's performances this season with Sassuolo have been very good.
Of course there has to be a commensurate replacement for a player leaving the team especially if it is a defender. So far there have been some rumors about Juventus' interest in defender Sassoulo, but anyway I haven't heard any recent news about Juventus' interest in the player. Dybala is leaving the team, while Pogba and Di Maria are likely to join. It would be better if Juventus had defenders of good quality, while Bonucci and De Light are two strong strongholds there but they need to get at least one commensurate replacement in case of injury or absence.

I have to agree with your opinion, those are things Allegri needs to consider even though Juventus have good LB and RB. Technically, I think 3 defenders may not be strong enough to defend against attacks from other teams, but usually Juventus' tactic is to have at least 4 defenders, one of whom is placed in the left or right winger position and that player can help the defense.

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June 29, 2022, 11:42:09 AM
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Juventus have only Bonucci, de Ligt and Rugani as defenders now. Chiellini is leaving to join Los Angeles FC as you must have heard already. I think that Juventus will need to sign at least one defender to keep themselves decent about their defense. de Ligt is also rumoured to leave by the way as Chelsea are highly interested in him. But if Juventus let him go by only his release clause then this transfer may not happen. Because his release clause is worth 120 million euros.
Bonucci is a leader of Juventus defense system now. He is the oldest, has most experience and he can teach, lead Rugani and de Ligt like Barzagli and Chiellini helped him when he was young. Rugani does not improve too much after some seasons in Turin. It seems Rugani has reached to his best and can not improve more. De Ligt is younger than Rugani and can improve himself in coming years.

I read rumors that De Ligt can move out of Juventus and some people said he is more relevant for Premier League than Serie A.

Bonucci and Matthijs de Ligt are two centre-backs and when it comes to new signings for centre-backs, those new signings would be second-tier players or to prepare if Bonucci retires. Basically the current Juventus squad is already very good from the goalkeepers and defenders everything is already in a good squad and in midfield until the Juventus striker has looked even better for next season. I personally don't see any drawbacks in any of Juventus' lines at the moment, although indeed, young, talented players are a must-have considering regeneration is an important part of maintaining a good performance.
The current contract of De Ligt is counting to the end and if Juventus can not come back to top of Serie A and go far in Champions League, they will not be able to convince De Ligt to stay and expand his contract with the club. So his future will not only depend on himself but will also depend on performance of Juventus. De Ligt has his own ambition too so he will not satisfy to stay in Juventus if they can not win titles.

If De Ligt want to leave Juve, a lot of clubs in the Europe will want to sign a contract with him.

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