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June 05, 2023, 08:15:28 PM
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This is true is a luck for Thomas Tuchel, he managed to bring the victory of Bayern Munich because the match at Brussia Dortmund against Mainz 05 ended in a 2-2 draw, if the word if Brussia Dortmund won against Mainz 05 in his last match, it was definitely determined as the winner of the Bundesliga Season This.
But it seems that Bayern Munich must be more careful for next season, because Brusssia Dortmund appears better, and competition in the league will be tighter, and will not be like before.
And it is a pity that Hertha Berlin and Schalke 04 must be eliminated, and struggle again to enter the Bundesliga next season.
I think his "luck" definitely gave him a new life. He got there and lost at UCL and if he lost the Bundesliga as well then it would have been a terrible situation for him without a doubt. However, he managed to do as well as hoped for and that's why I believe that he is doing fine right now. I know that not that many people consider this situation as a big win considering they almost lost, but I think it will give him more breathing room for transfers he wants to make during this summer.

If he didn't win the league then the team wouldn't be really looking at him like he was a good choice and regret hiring him and they may not let him make all the transfers he would want to see at the club, that may have changed now and maybe he will have more free roam to get who he wants they can afford.

Actually, I believe that he's not the best choice that they have made. Dortmund is actually stupid. They had the best chance that they could have in front of them and they still lost the match. If they could just win that last match they were going to be the Bundesliga champion of this season. I have lost all hope and expectations from Dortmund. They do not deserve to win the Bundesliga title.

I would say that Bayern Munich actually got saved by Dortmund because if Dortmund won the last match was going to be in deep trouble because everyone was going to point fingers towards the coach and also the authority of Bayern Munich as well.

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June 05, 2023, 08:16:15 PM
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Even after the huge mistakes they had in Batyern MUnich people are still talking about Tuchel and they will Tuchel is a better coach for Bayern Munich than Nagelsmann which is really funny for me because even in the games when Nagelsmann was coaching there, they have better performance and the only problem about Nagelsmann was mostly because of unstable situation and bad relation he had with some players regardless of that, Nagelsmann was not a bad coach for them.  
i think the people who say tuchel is a better coach than nagelsmann are in a bit of a rut lol. Nagelsmann was sacked from Bayern when Bayern were still at the top of the Bundesliga standings, so Nagelsmann's dismissal from the start really didn't make sense, what would happen to Bayern's management if Bayern failed to become Bundesliga champions because Dortmund won their last game, so I'm sure Tuchel will be the butt of ridicule.

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June 05, 2023, 08:23:32 PM
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If Tuchel does not bring something new to Bayern game play then most likely he will not win anything in the Champions League with such performances as we saw in the last games of Bundesliga.It was a complete failure of Dortmund who people most likely had placed a huuuuuuuuuuuuge amount of money that the bookies I don't know what have offered to Dortmund to not win that game,there is no logical explanation to such happenings to me and no one can remove my idea from my mind.The reason simple,even when Feyenoord were to become Champion in the last game several years ago they lost the final game 4-1 against one of the last standings teams,this increasingly increase my doubts that the same have happened in both scenarios.

Lesson to be learned,never bet on such teams when they are fighting for the title,they will sell it to the bookies and not give the slightest f*ck to the great fans and supporters they have.

Do you really believe it was a match-fixing? I can't imagine how many people have to be involved and how they have to be disciplined so that the truth doesn't come out - it seems to me absolutely unrealistic. I understand that sometimes absolutely unrealistic things happen - for example, when someone guesses all the numbers in the lottery (from a logical point of view, this is completely impossible for an individual), but such is the reality, incredible things happen very rarely and this is normal - there is no point in looking for a conspiracy here.

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June 05, 2023, 08:24:56 PM
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In the home match, Stuttgart got a great 3-0 win. The player from Stuttgart played very well. Stuttgart does not give Hamburger's players much chance to attack. The Stuttgart team won by a big margin because of the great performance of the striker and defenders. And in today's away match Stuttgart will want to keep their defense strong and draw the match. If the match is a draw Stuttgart will be able to qualify for the Bundesliga. So today's match is unlikely to be competitive or exciting.
I hope that Stuttgart dont playing a draw and just keep playing as they have done it in the first game against Hamburg.
Fingers crossed that we dont see a surprise result from Hamburg as it was 2 weeks ago in the some relegation game from england.
But i guess we will see win for Stuttgart and that they will be stay in the first german league.

Three-Zero is a very good lead to have. I don't believe they will actually throw away that type of lead. I also think that Stuttgart is going to be the winner of this relegation playoff. They might not necessarily win the match but in the aggregate score, they will be the winner. Hamburger has very little chance of making a comeback knowing that they will have to overcome a 3 goal deficit. Honestly, it is going to sound really harsh but I don't think they will be able to do it.

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June 05, 2023, 08:54:08 PM
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HSV : VFB Stuttgart 1:3

stuttgart won the second relegation match 3:1 today and will remain in the 1.bundesliga next season.
congratulations!

heidenheim ,darmstadt and now stuttgart complete the 18 bundesliga teams

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June 05, 2023, 09:05:34 PM
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There was actually a good effort by Hamburg in the first half and they finished it 1-0 ahead as well. This must have given them some hope for a comeback even though it was still looking really difficult. But it didn't take Stuttgart a long time to end their hopes with consecutive three goals. Stuttgart really showed how much they want to stay in the Bundesliga.

Hamburg failed in their second attempt in a row to promote to the Bundesliga. They just need to work harder to not leave their job to chance from now on. They must find a way to finish in top 2.

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June 05, 2023, 09:35:13 PM
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We agree, if Tuchel does his job to the best of his ability. so that Bayern Munich is in accordance with what he wants and at the same time meets the expectations of Bayern Munich's management. however, in his journey with Bayern, it did not meet the expectations of most parties. In fact, I would say that the title they won this season was a gift from Dortmund, who were unable to complete their task properly in the final game against Mainz. so, winning the Bundesliga for the umpteenth time did not live up to the expectations that Bayern's management had hoped for. that's why Bayern sacked oliver kahn and hasan salihamidžić, because they were responsible for what happened to Bayern, especially after Nagelsmann's dismissal.

In this season, it can be said, bayern failed which usually appear superior in the Bundesliga. even the points they have, are no different from Dortmund's points. maybe in the coming season, Tuchel can prove his ability to bring his team much better. because, he has a lot of time to achieve chemistry between players and coaches. well, we'll find out later. Can Tuchel bring Bayern even better, especially in the Champions League? and IMO, this is a new challenge for him.
To be more precise, if we measure Tuchel performance with Bayern Munich this season, of course we can't decide with a more precise answer. To see Tuchel's performance at Bayern Munich, we have to see it in the next season because he came to Bayern Munich this season when the competition has a few  matches left. So the quality of the players doesn't really blend in with the strategy implemented by Tuchel because he doesn't have much time to find a more suitable partner in the game scheme that will be implemented by him. Now, with Bayern Munich winning the Bundesliga Trophy this season, of course this is a good step for Tuchel to start his era at Bayern Munich next season.

Bayern Munich management this season made several major changes to the top ranks of the Bayer Munich club where management fired Oliver Kahn and appointed Christian Dreesen as CEO of Bayern Munich. So apart from the speculation that is happening at Bayern Munich, I think failure in the Champions League is quite painful for Bayern Munich this season. Tuchel may be given full freedom to bring in players in the transfer market later in order to improve performance for next season.

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Tuchel did well for Bayern Munich, it is not easy to overcome the challenge. Winning Bundesliga is a good record for him for his career, he was able to save Bayern Munich in hard time. Tuchel victory has made Bayern  Munich management to believe him as competent coach good for the work..

We agree, if Tuchel does his job to the best of his ability. so that Bayern Munich is in accordance with what he wants and at the same time meets the expectations of Bayern Munich's management. however, in his journey with Bayern, it did not meet the expectations of most parties. In fact, I would say that the title they won this season was a gift from Dortmund, who were unable to complete their task properly in the final game against Mainz. so, winning the Bundesliga for the umpteenth time did not live up to the expectations that Bayern's management had hoped for. that's why Bayern sacked oliver kahn and hasan salihamidžić, because they were responsible for what happened to Bayern, especially after Nagelsmann's dismissal.

In this season, it can be said, bayern failed which usually appear superior in the Bundesliga. even the points they have, are no different from Dortmund's points. maybe in the coming season, Tuchel can prove his ability to bring his team much better. because, he has a lot of time to achieve chemistry between players and coaches. well, we'll find out later. Can Tuchel bring Bayern even better, especially in the Champions League? and IMO, this is a new challenge for him.

If Tuchel does not bring something new to Bayern game play then most likely he will not win anything in the Champions League with such performances as we saw in the last games of Bundesliga.It was a complete failure of Dortmund who people most likely had placed a huuuuuuuuuuuuge amount of money that the bookies I don't know what have offered to Dortmund to not win that game,there is no logical explanation to such happenings to me and no one can remove my idea from my mind.The reason simple,even when Feyenoord were to become Champion in the last game several years ago they lost the final game 4-1 against one of the last standings teams,this increasingly increase my doubts that the same have happened in both scenarios.

Lesson to be learned,never bet on such teams when they are fighting for the title,they will sell it to the bookies and not give the slightest f*ck to the great fans and supporters they have.
Thomas Tuchel earned the respect he gets today by what he's done in football with not so big players in the past and would continue to be seen as a great manager in modern day football.
After Julian Nagelsmann was sacked for losing just three matches, it was clear that Bayern Munich wanted a manager who's capable enough to quickly change their playing pattern and make them one of the best in Europe but unfortunately, they were beaten in Europe. That somehow makes Tuchel's reign questionable but now that the season is over and Inter Milan won the league, Tuchel will have enough time to effect significant changes in the club's playing system when the team resumes next season

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June 05, 2023, 10:23:30 PM
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HSV : VFB Stuttgart 1:3
stuttgart won the second relegation match 3:1 today and will remain in the 1.bundesliga next season.
congratulations!
heidenheim ,darmstadt and now stuttgart complete the 18 bundesliga teams
Saddly i havnt seen the second game between Stuttgart against hamburg live and just have seen the review of it.
Really glad and happy that Stuttgart managed it to win and will be stay in the first league and coming season.
From what i have been seen it was a very nice and good game , Congrats to all Stuttgart fans.

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There was actually a good effort by Hamburg in the first half and they finished it 1-0 ahead as well. This must have given them some hope for a comeback even though it was still looking really difficult. But it didn't take Stuttgart a long time to end their hopes with consecutive three goals. Stuttgart really showed how much they want to stay in the Bundesliga.

Hamburg failed in their second attempt in a row to promote to the Bundesliga. They just need to work harder to not leave their job to chance from now on. They must find a way to finish in top 2.
3-0 in the first leg and now 1-3 despite hamburg leading first through the quick goal , they failed to maintain the coneback spirit till the end of the match , if only they can keep up that good work for a little longer , the dramatic comeback might occured and the wait to get back to bundesliga might come true.

Too bad, hamburg haven't that winning mentality and for multiple times niw they are in total failure.

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There was actually a good effort by Hamburg in the first half and they finished it 1-0 ahead as well. This must have given them some hope for a comeback even though it was still looking really difficult. But it didn't take Stuttgart a long time to end their hopes with consecutive three goals. Stuttgart really showed how much they want to stay in the Bundesliga.

Hamburg failed in their second attempt in a row to promote to the Bundesliga. They just need to work harder to not leave their job to chance from now on. They must find a way to finish in top 2.
3-0 in the first leg and now 1-3 despite hamburg leading first through the quick goal , they failed to maintain the coneback spirit till the end of the match , if only they can keep up that good work for a little longer , the dramatic comeback might occured and the wait to get back to bundesliga might come true.

Too bad, hamburg haven't that winning mentality and for multiple times niw they are in total failure.

Hamburger started the match very well and they managed to get a goal in the first minutes of the match but they didn't created many opportunities in the remaining minutes of the first half, Stuttgart coaching was very good and they managed to score 3 goals in the second half and easily remain in the bundesliga

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3-0 in the first leg and now 1-3 despite hamburg leading first through the quick goal , they failed to maintain the coneback spirit till the end of the match , if only they can keep up that good work for a little longer , the dramatic comeback might occured and the wait to get back to bundesliga might come true.

Too bad, hamburg haven't that winning mentality and for multiple times niw they are in total failure.
If Heidenheim dont scored the 3:2 in the last minute in Regensburg on the last matchday, all would be different now. It was a strange game and after 90 minutes it looked like Hamburg had been direct in the first undesliga. Then in minute 93 the 2:2 and in minute 98 3:2, so Hamburg had to play against Stuttgart and lose... Another year in the second Bundesliga. Hamburg musst play in the first Bundesliga, but this year it wasnt enough again.

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HSV : VFB Stuttgart 1:3
stuttgart won the second relegation match 3:1 today and will remain in the 1.bundesliga next season.
congratulations!
heidenheim ,darmstadt and now stuttgart complete the 18 bundesliga teams
Saddly i havnt seen the second game between Stuttgart against hamburg live and just have seen the review of it.
Really glad and happy that Stuttgart managed it to win and will be stay in the first league and coming season.
From what i have been seen it was a very nice and good game , Congrats to all Stuttgart fans.
VfB Stuttgart played very well even though they conceded 1 goal early in the first minute but they managed to bring things back with goals scored by Millot in 48 and 64 minutes.
This advantage lasted until the last minute and in added time 90+6 Mvumpa scored a goal to make the score 1 - 3.

I was lucky because I still made the decision to put VfB Stuttgart on the line like in the previous game.

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June 06, 2023, 08:26:18 AM
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Saddly i havnt seen the second game between Stuttgart against hamburg live and just have seen the review of it.
Really glad and happy that Stuttgart managed it to win and will be stay in the first league and coming season.
From what i have been seen it was a very nice and good game , Congrats to all Stuttgart fans.

The first half could give the Hamburg fans some hope, but already at the beginning of the second half it became clear that everything was over. Stuttgart are stronger and they deserve to stay in the Bundesliga, I like Hamburg and I understand their desire to return to the big leagues, but for this you need to play much better, losing 1-6 on aggregate is a defeat without a chance.

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June 06, 2023, 08:46:53 AM
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Saddly i havnt seen the second game between Stuttgart against hamburg live and just have seen the review of it.
Really glad and happy that Stuttgart managed it to win and will be stay in the first league and coming season.
From what i have been seen it was a very nice and good game , Congrats to all Stuttgart fans.

The first half could give the Hamburg fans some hope, but already at the beginning of the second half it became clear that everything was over. Stuttgart are stronger and they deserve to stay in the Bundesliga, I like Hamburg and I understand their desire to return to the big leagues, but for this you need to play much better, losing 1-6 on aggregate is a defeat without a chance.
With a quick goal early in the first half it sparked a bit of excitement but indeed that seemed to be all they could show.
The second half completely belonged to Stuttgart in this match which made them really unable to do much because indeed they lost to take advantage of the momentum and the second half went really well for Stuttgart. Even though I wasn't really surprised by this result, but looking at the matches that took place in this case, we can see how many gaps there are in the Hamburg camp when they are so frequent in their attacks that counterattacks really become a frightening specter.

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We agree, if Tuchel does his job to the best of his ability. so that Bayern Munich is in accordance with what he wants and at the same time meets the expectations of Bayern Munich's management. however, in his journey with Bayern, it did not meet the expectations of most parties. In fact, I would say that the title they won this season was a gift from Dortmund, who were unable to complete their task properly in the final game against Mainz. so, winning the Bundesliga for the umpteenth time did not live up to the expectations that Bayern's management had hoped for. that's why Bayern sacked oliver kahn and hasan salihamidžić, because they were responsible for what happened to Bayern, especially after Nagelsmann's dismissal.

In this season, it can be said, bayern failed which usually appear superior in the Bundesliga. even the points they have, are no different from Dortmund's points. maybe in the coming season, Tuchel can prove his ability to bring his team much better. because, he has a lot of time to achieve chemistry between players and coaches. well, we'll find out later. Can Tuchel bring Bayern even better, especially in the Champions League? and IMO, this is a new challenge for him.
To be more precise, if we measure Tuchel performance with Bayern Munich this season, of course we can't decide with a more precise answer. To see Tuchel's performance at Bayern Munich, we have to see it in the next season because he came to Bayern Munich this season when the competition has a few  matches left. So the quality of the players doesn't really blend in with the strategy implemented by Tuchel because he doesn't have much time to find a more suitable partner in the game scheme that will be implemented by him. Now, with Bayern Munich winning the Bundesliga Trophy this season, of course this is a good step for Tuchel to start his era at Bayern Munich next season.

Bayern Munich management this season made several major changes to the top ranks of the Bayer Munich club where management fired Oliver Kahn and appointed Christian Dreesen as CEO of Bayern Munich. So apart from the speculation that is happening at Bayern Munich, I think failure in the Champions League is quite painful for Bayern Munich this season. Tuchel may be given full freedom to bring in players in the transfer market later in order to improve performance for next season.

The problem is as we know, after Tuchel replaced Nagelsmann, he was predicted to bring down City and many people agreed. that is why, the rash decision made by Bayern Munich's management. Previously, it was also rumored that Tuchel had the potential to win a treble winner. it's a shame, it turns out that what management targeted didn't match expectations.
Previously I liked Bayern Munich's style of play with Nagelsmann, he is a young coach who has a modern football philosophy. unfortunately, he was not given the opportunity to spend the rest of the season with Munich. in fact, Bayern's biggest mistake was letting go of Lewandowski and not trying to bring in a pure striker instead. in the end Bayern experienced a few problems, until finally Choupo Moting was given the opportunity to fill in the position left by Lewandowski. although previously, Nagelsmann has tried to reshuffle and rotate especially at centre-forward.

Here, I'm not measuring Tuchel's performance with Bayern in a short time. I even said before, that Tuchel did his job to the best of his ability. he put all his efforts into making Bayern live up to what he expected. unfortunately, there are differences between Nagelsmann's system and Tuchel's. that's why, like it or not, Tuchel had to adapt quickly to achieve chemistry with his team. however, it seems that along the way it is quite difficult to change the habits that were previously always applied by Nagelsmann. apart from that, Tuchel needs players who fit his criteria. I also don't forget to say, maybe in the next season he can be creative with what he really wants. moreover, he can bring in newcomers that suit his philosophy. well, next season, is a real challenge for Tuchel and let's see what he will do.

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June 06, 2023, 10:22:51 AM
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HSV : VFB Stuttgart 1:3
stuttgart won the second relegation match 3:1 today and will remain in the 1.bundesliga next season.
congratulations!
heidenheim ,darmstadt and now stuttgart complete the 18 bundesliga teams
Saddly i havnt seen the second game between Stuttgart against hamburg live and just have seen the review of it.
Really glad and happy that Stuttgart managed it to win and will be stay in the first league and coming season.
From what i have been seen it was a very nice and good game , Congrats to all Stuttgart fans.

I was sure that Stuttgart would be able to qualify for the Bundesliga. However, after Hamburger scored in the sixth minute of the match, I thought the match would be very competitive. The hamburger will try their best to win this match. Hamburger had a good first-half performance. Despite several good attacks, they could not break down Stuttgart's defense. However, in the second half, Stuttgart made an excellent comeback. Enzo Milot scored a goal just 3 minutes into the second half to level the match at 1-1. And in the 65th minute, Stuttgart took the lead in the match with another goal. And in the last 90 minutes, another goal in the match gave Stuttgart a wonderful victory of 3-1. Stuttgart played well in both matches against Hamburger.

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June 06, 2023, 10:25:13 AM
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I was lucky because I still made the decision to put VfB Stuttgart on the line like in the previous game.

Congratulation for you.

To be honest, if that match was ez money to predict. Stuttgart has been dominating the first leg and it was also making the same in the second leg. That prediction was coming true if stuttgart will still stay in the bundesliga next season.
Hamburg was holding the match with more ball possessions and it has equal shoots compared with stuttgart but surprisingly if stuttgart has a very good defensive combined with high accuracy in the attacking lines.

3 goals from 4 goal attempts for stuttgart is very good.

Many applauses were going to the hamburg caused by it has been trying so hard to win against stuttgart by using the moderct tactic but the quality from players that owned by hamburg is mot match against stuttgart.
Good luck hamburg for the next season.

6-1 as the final aggregates from this match.

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VfB Stuttgart played very well even though they conceded 1 goal early in the first minute but they managed to bring things back with goals scored by Millot in 48 and 64 minutes.
This advantage lasted until the last minute and in added time 90+6 Mvumpa scored a goal to make the score 1 - 3.

I was lucky because I still made the decision to put VfB Stuttgart on the line like in the previous game.
Unfortunately I don't have the courage to bet on this match because I feel that Stuttgart will hold back.
Actually, my intuition was right, indeed they played with a defensive scheme, but what I regretted was that Hamburg's all out condition backfired for them.
Hamburg's honest possession was very good but the direct pass which Stuttgart always makes is really excellent and I was entertained especially for the second half.
A pretty sweet comeback with a fairly monohok score makes them feel alive again in the bundesliga next season.
But it's quite unfortunate for Hamburg because their bad luck in the play-offs continues.

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June 06, 2023, 11:29:26 AM
 #34660

Dortmund wasted their championship opportunity too easy by not even being able to win against an aimless team on the last week of the season. This can't be acceptable even though they have still had a solid season. The ending shouldn't have been like this. I assume Dortmund have no reasonable explanation to this result either. It was like they already secured the title so they just didn't care about the match. The first half of it was exactly like that and that effort in the second half wasn't enough as a result.

Terzic surely had a good season anyway by staying in the title race until the end. But he also needs to learn his lesson from this kind of poor ending. Dortmund normally don't care about whether they become the champions but when they have another chance they should know how to make use of it.

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