Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[len01]

I also think that the outcome of this season was very tragic for Borussia Dortmund. The sad reality in the Bundesliga is, that other teams only have a chance to become Bundesliga champion if Bayern Munich is playing a very very bad season for their standards because otherwise they are just to strong. This season that was the case and still Borussia Dortmund somehow managed to screw it all up in the very last match. I think they won't get another such big chance again so quickly.

Agreed, dortmund was winning bundesliga a decade ago. It needs a decade for dortmund to make its comeback but it was failed in the last match. Reus is feeling so badly with dortmund at the last match. I think that terzic shall have learned about how to make the mentality from the players even stronger. It seemed to me if all of dortmund's players were so nervous at the last game. Will dortmund needs another decade to make the same achievement like the previous season?
In my opinion that if dortmund must be pushing itself even harder than before. It's caused by bayern will able to come back again this season.
I ain't think if bayern will repeat the bad season again like the previous season.

it looks like it's a little difficult for Dortmund to recover from the bad things that have happened in recent seasons, while Bayern Munich is currently reorganizing to strengthen the team's performance, which is very visible in the next few seasons, it looks like Bayern Munich will continue to be strong and Dortmund have no choice but to wait a decade later.

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Borussia Dortmund is known to be selling their best players in almost all the summer transfer windows and that is why Bayern Munich will continue to dominate the German Bundesliga for more seasons to come.
Jadon Sancho was sold last two summer before Erling Haaland was sold to Manchester City last summer and now Jude Bellingham has left for Real Madrid. I think the club's transfer strategy isn't concerned by the success of the team rather they're more concerned by how much they make as gains when they sell these players. They might also be lucky raise another great player before the end of next season and still sell him at the end of the season

If they were able to retain the good players, Bayern could not have been dominating the league for years. It takes a consistent team to have great success, it's only financially good to sell a player who can make money without using it to another team.
On the one hand, they are doing something quite logical, they always sell their players when they are at their most valuable and make a lot of money. But their chances of becoming champions are dwindling

[bering]

Yes, I will not rule out that Manuel Neuer can survive to an older age, even beyond the age of 40. But of course he has to show progress where he can survive that far so he can still be trusted to be the main goalkeeper in the squad. It takes hard work if he wants to reach the point where he, like Buffon, for example, can still survive at the highest level of competition at the football level.
I'm not going to say he can't do it, but I'm also not going to guarantee he'll be able to continue to exist as the main goal keeper, he himself will decide everything.

Manuel Neuer has became an Germany national team goalkeeper and Bayern Munich goalkeeper for more than 10 years and he can keep his consistency to playing at high level of competition until now and i don't think it will be easy to do so but Neuer can maintain his level and if he recovers then i am sure he will find his shape again and i think Neuer can able to playing at least for next 2 or 3 years before retired and the latest news i have heard is Germany national team manager Hansi Flick has promised a place in the main squad for Neuer if he can recover before Euro 2024

About Bayern Munich goalkeeper position some people has been speculate the future of Yann Sommer because after Neuer got recover probably Sommer will be lost his place as first goalkeeper in Bayern and recently Sommer was linked to Manchester United and although Sommer has been refuse this rumour because he feels happy with Bayern i think he should be thinking to moved because if there is Neuer then Sommer will always be the second choice at Bayern

[tusandii]

Borussia Dortmund is known to be selling their best players in almost all the summer transfer windows and that is why Bayern Munich will continue to dominate the German Bundesliga for more seasons to come.
Jadon Sancho was sold last two summer before Erling Haaland was sold to Manchester City last summer and now Jude Bellingham has left for Real Madrid. I think the club's transfer strategy isn't concerned by the success of the team rather they're more concerned by how much they make as gains when they sell these players. They might also be lucky raise another great player before the end of next season and still sell him at the end of the season

If they were able to retain the good players, Bayern could not have been dominating the league for years. It takes a consistent team to have great success, it's only financially good to sell a player who can make money without using it to another team.
On the one hand, they are doing something quite logical, they always sell their players when they are at their most valuable and make a lot of money. But their chances of becoming champions are dwindling

This is just the Domestic League so it's not a great thing when only two big teams always dominate this League but they shouldn't just focus and be proud when they can dominate the Bundesliga because they also have to fight for the Champions League.
When one of the two teams can compete well for the Champions League and manage to have a chance in the final then that's a very good development.

Actually, Dortmund and Bayern have pretty good players, it's just that they still can't compete with other big teams for a prestigious title like the Champions League.

[hyudien]

Borussia Dortmund is known to be selling their best players in almost all the summer transfer windows and that is why Bayern Munich will continue to dominate the German Bundesliga for more seasons to come.
Jadon Sancho was sold last two summer before Erling Haaland was sold to Manchester City last summer and now Jude Bellingham has left for Real Madrid. I think the club's transfer strategy isn't concerned by the success of the team rather they're more concerned by how much they make as gains when they sell these players. They might also be lucky raise another great player before the end of next season and still sell him at the end of the season

If they were able to retain the good players, Bayern could not have been dominating the league for years. It takes a consistent team to have great success, it's only financially good to sell a player who can make money without using it to another team.
On the one hand, they are doing something quite logical, they always sell their players when they are at their most valuable and make a lot of money. But their chances of becoming champions are dwindling

I wouldn't be surprised by the transfer of players who contributed a lot to Borussia Dortmund, I wouldn't even be surprised when I saw them lose all their players. lol
Borussia Dortmund puts profit above performance, so they have always done things against many people's wishes in order for them to keep their quality players. I really understand that in the world of football, business cannot be separated, but they also have to think about achievement. If they can't put achievement before profit, then at least they can equalize the two, meaning they have to get both things.
But until now we can see how they act, and that makes it difficult for them to compete with Bayern Munich.

[Jody.Drummer]

Yes, I will not rule out that Manuel Neuer can survive to an older age, even beyond the age of 40. But of course he has to show progress where he can survive that far so he can still be trusted to be the main goalkeeper in the squad. It takes hard work if he wants to reach the point where he, like Buffon, for example, can still survive at the highest level of competition at the football level.
I'm not going to say he can't do it, but I'm also not going to guarantee he'll be able to continue to exist as the main goal keeper, he himself will decide everything.

Manuel Neuer has became an Germany national team goalkeeper and Bayern Munich goalkeeper for more than 10 years and he can keep his consistency to playing at high level of competition until now and i don't think it will be easy to do so but Neuer can maintain his level and if he recovers then i am sure he will find his shape again and i think Neuer can able to playing at least for next 2 or 3 years before retired and the latest news i have heard is Germany national team manager Hansi Flick has promised a place in the main squad for Neuer if he can recover before Euro 2024

About Bayern Munich goalkeeper position some people has been speculate the future of Yann Sommer because after Neuer got recover probably Sommer will be lost his place as first goalkeeper in Bayern and recently Sommer was linked to Manchester United and although Sommer has been refuse this rumour because he feels happy with Bayern i think he should be thinking to moved because if there is Neuer then Sommer will always be the second choice at Bayern

He has indeed earned a place in the national team, and he must be able to answer the trust placed in him to be able to show that they were not wrong to wait for Manuel Neuer to recover from the injury he had. I think it will take time for him to find his best form in the game, because usually injuries are one of the consequences that prevent players from returning to their original form in the game. How many players end up not being able to find their shape again after returning from injury.
Maybe that's what I can say because he is a goalkeeper, so unlike other players who have a position in front of the goalkeeper.

[sana54210]

One of Dortmund most profitable deals in recent years Bellingham official move to Real Madrid before the end of the month represents a significant milestone for the team. Their strategic acumen and excellent decision making are demonstrated by their success. Even though they might not be able to win the Bundesliga this year Dortmund tactical decision to play Bellingham ensures that they can still accomplish their primary goal. The club astute business acumen is demonstrated by their ability to make substantial profits from the sale of young gifted players like Bellingham. Even though it was disappointing to lose the championship to Bayern Munich in what on paper should have been an easy match the traumatic finale to the season will live in memory. Terzic remarkable performance during the season should comfort fans and the board though as Dortmund came perilously close to winning the desired title.

The only problem left right now is that they will need to replace him. Even if you can't get someone as good as Jude, you need to cover that up improving another position or maybe multiple. Dortmund did better and ended closer after Haaland left, we need to keep remembering that, of course Bayern was worse as well, but in the end Dortmund got 2 more points without Haaland than with Haaland, that's still a story to remember.

How did they do that? Well they got Haller and he was worse than Haaland of course, but instead they had an improving Jude along with a few more better transfers that made other positions better. So, if they end up with something like 75 points or so this year, that would probably be enough for a title, and that's what they should focus on.

[hahay]

Borussia Dortmund is known to be selling their best players in almost all the summer transfer windows and that is why Bayern Munich will continue to dominate the German Bundesliga for more seasons to come.
Jadon Sancho was sold last two summer before Erling Haaland was sold to Manchester City last summer and now Jude Bellingham has left for Real Madrid. I think the club's transfer strategy isn't concerned by the success of the team rather they're more concerned by how much they make as gains when they sell these players. They might also be lucky raise another great player before the end of next season and still sell him at the end of the season

If they were able to retain the good players, Bayern could not have been dominating the league for years. It takes a consistent team to have great success, it's only financially good to sell a player who can make money without using it to another team.
On the one hand, they are doing something quite logical, they always sell their players when they are at their most valuable and make a lot of money. But their chances of becoming champions are dwindling

One thing I really want to see is that it is not easy for Dortmund to let go of its key players, because if Dortmund dares to make the choice to keep their key players by increasing their salaries then of course Dortmund will be able to win a trophy. Because even though Dortmund always sell their key players, but the reality is that Dortmund can still compete well in the Bundesliga title race. Therefore, if only one season Dortmund can retain all its key players, then of course Dortmund will be able to stop Bayern Munich's successive title success.

[Jackl87]

Borussia Dortmund is known to be selling their best players in almost all the summer transfer windows and that is why Bayern Munich will continue to dominate the German Bundesliga for more seasons to come.
Jadon Sancho was sold last two summer before Erling Haaland was sold to Manchester City last summer and now Jude Bellingham has left for Real Madrid. I think the club's transfer strategy isn't concerned by the success of the team rather they're more concerned by how much they make as gains when they sell these players. They might also be lucky raise another great player before the end of next season and still sell him at the end of the season

I think we should not forget where Borussia Dortmund is coming from. In the late 1990s and the early 2000s they were at the same level as Bayern Munich or maybe even ahead of them a few times. In order to do that they had to make very high debts though which almost led them into bankruptcy afterwards. Then Jürgen Klopp came and the club has risen again and they even made it into the Champions League final back in 2013. Still they are pretty far behind Bayern in terms of financials.

[rahmad2nd]

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I think we should not forget where Borussia Dortmund is coming from. In the late 1990s and the early 2000s they were at the same level as Bayern Munich or maybe even ahead of them a few times. In order to do that they had to make very high debts though which almost led them into bankruptcy afterwards. Then Jürgen Klopp came and the club has risen again and they even made it into the Champions League final back in 2013. Still they are pretty far behind Bayern in terms of financials.

A little flashback to the history of Dortmund. if I'm not mistaken, Dortmund is one of the most successful clubs in Germany with a score of 8 German league titles, only losing to Bayern Munich.  they have also won the Champions League trophy once.
The 90s were the golden age of Dortmund, and in the 200s Dortmund became the first German club to open publicly or go public. they won the Bundesliga trophy in 2002 and were runners up in the UEFA Cup in the same year. but after that they experienced a drastic setback, financial problems again became the cause. debt that many make Dortmund have to look for loans so as not to go bankrupt. in short, Dortmund was given a loan by rival Bayern Munich.

During the Jurgen Klopp era, Dortmund's achievements immediately increased. in short, Klopp's arrival made Dormund excel again. well, as you said Dortmund is far behind Bayern in financial terms. that's why, they changed their business style to create more young talents to become stars and then they sell. that way, Dortmund does not rely on ticket sales and sponsors. and now, they are one of the clubs that always generate high profits. Naturally, if their current priority is not focused on the trophy.

[Docnaster]

Borussia Dortmund is known to be selling their best players in almost all the summer transfer windows and that is why Bayern Munich will continue to dominate the German Bundesliga for more seasons to come.
Jadon Sancho was sold last two summer before Erling Haaland was sold to Manchester City last summer and now Jude Bellingham has left for Real Madrid. I think the club's transfer strategy isn't concerned by the success of the team rather they're more concerned by how much they make as gains when they sell these players. They might also be lucky raise another great player before the end of next season and still sell him at the end of the season

If they were able to retain the good players, Bayern could not have been dominating the league for years. It takes a consistent team to have great success, it's only financially good to sell a player who can make money without using it to another team.
On the one hand, they are doing something quite logical, they always sell their players when they are at their most valuable and make a lot of money. But their chances of becoming champions are dwindling

You rightly understand my point on why it'll be very difficult for Borussia Dortmund to end Bayern Munich dominance in the German Bundesliga.
It takes a consistent to achieve success and if the club's management doesn't stop that their traditional transfer policy, it simply means they're more concerned with how much the club makes from those transfers instead of helping the club win major football honours

[ILuckyGuyI]

Mate, it is still early to be sure of anything about Tuchel in fact. Because he arrived at Bayern Munich quite late in the season. Nobody was able to understand what Bayern Munich were trying to achieve with this action in the middle of important tournaments. Kahn and Salihamidzic got sacked for this reason most probably. Because it was a really huge risk to take there.

Of course they still won the Bundesliga title but it was so lucky for them as Dortmund threw away their chance just like that. I don't blame Tuchel for these runs in the Bundesliga and Champions League both. He didn't have much time to do really nice things. But in the upcoming season he will have nothing more than time to execute the plans in his mind.

I believe Tuchel is a really decent manager also. But let's say he still couldn't manage to have a good chemistry with the players then I would understand if Bayern Munich decide to sack him too.

It will be interesting for me to look at Tuchel if Bayern make some serious reinforcements to the squad. So far, nothing has been heard on this subject, if Bavaria does not strengthen, then I am sure the next season will be no less difficult (even if Bayern wins the Bundesliga confidently) and the chances in the Champions League will be even less than this year. Bayern now is Real Madrid last year - without big changes in the squad, the problems will only accumulate.

There is a simple solution to solve most of their issues for next season in fact. It is to make the right decision about the striker transfer in this transfer window. As I always say, the striker kind Bayern Munich would make use of the most is a complete forward. Comparing the times with Lewandowski to now, there is just a huge gap.

Choupo-Moting has done his best and he has been quite beneficial from time to time. But this isn't enough for the team as we have seen. Mane has also been given a chance in the position but he was also not as effective as he is while playing as winger.

With the right transfer and a decent management by Tuchel, Bayern Munich should be good to go. 

[klidex]

Borussia Dortmund is known to be selling their best players in almost all the summer transfer windows and that is why Bayern Munich will continue to dominate the German Bundesliga for more seasons to come.
Jadon Sancho was sold last two summer before Erling Haaland was sold to Manchester City last summer and now Jude Bellingham has left for Real Madrid. I think the club's transfer strategy isn't concerned by the success of the team rather they're more concerned by how much they make as gains when they sell these players. They might also be lucky raise another great player before the end of next season and still sell him at the end of the season

If they were able to retain the good players, Bayern could not have been dominating the league for years. It takes a consistent team to have great success, it's only financially good to sell a player who can make money without using it to another team.
On the one hand, they are doing something quite logical, they always sell their players when they are at their most valuable and make a lot of money. But their chances of becoming champions are dwindling

You rightly understand my point on why it'll be very difficult for Borussia Dortmund to end Bayern Munich dominance in the German Bundesliga.
It takes a consistent to achieve success and if the club's management doesn't stop that their traditional transfer policy, it simply means they're more concerned with how much the club makes from those transfers instead of helping the club win major football honours

There is no reason for Borussia Dortmund to be able to thwart Bayern Munich's dominance, while Dortmund last season sold their best players and this is Dortmund's mistake in not being able to take the opportunity in their last game against Mainz which could give pride of being the Bundesliga champion last season but failed because of a draw.

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Borussia Dortmund is known to be selling their best players in almost all the summer transfer windows and that is why Bayern Munich will continue to dominate the German Bundesliga for more seasons to come.
Jadon Sancho was sold last two summer before Erling Haaland was sold to Manchester City last summer and now Jude Bellingham has left for Real Madrid. I think the club's transfer strategy isn't concerned by the success of the team rather they're more concerned by how much they make as gains when they sell these players. They might also be lucky raise another great player before the end of next season and still sell him at the end of the season

If they were able to retain the good players, Bayern could not have been dominating the league for years. It takes a consistent team to have great success, it's only financially good to sell a player who can make money without using it to another team.
On the one hand, they are doing something quite logical, they always sell their players when they are at their most valuable and make a lot of money. But their chances of becoming champions are dwindling

I think there is something worse for them. Some of these successful players have transferred directly to Bayern Munich in the past years. Of course, I do not judge the players. When the players see that Bayern Munich wants to transfer them, they immediately want to be transferred to the champion club. I think this is very natural. However, Borussia Dortmund seems to be in a bad cycle in this regard. Lewandowski, Hummels and Götze were some of the best-known examples of this.

So, I don't think they want to sell football players just to make money. They are not the right address for football players who want to achieve success by winning the championship. For this reason, they have a hard time keeping the good players they have in their squads.

[slapper]

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One of Dortmund most profitable deals in recent years Bellingham official move to Real Madrid before the end of the month represents a significant milestone for the team. Their strategic acumen and excellent decision making are demonstrated by their success. Even though they might not be able to win the Bundesliga this year Dortmund tactical decision to play Bellingham ensures that they can still accomplish their primary goal. The club astute business acumen is demonstrated by their ability to make substantial profits from the sale of young gifted players like Bellingham. Even though it was disappointing to lose the championship to Bayern Munich in what on paper should have been an easy match the traumatic finale to the season will live in memory. Terzic remarkable performance during the season should comfort fans and the board though as Dortmund came perilously close to winning the desired title.

Bellingham's expected switch to Real Madrid underlines Dortmund's effective plan and good decisions. Even if they don't clinch this year's Bundesliga, using Bellingham and prioritizing their goals was shrewd. The club's smart dealings have made big profits from selling stars like Bellingham. The next step is to get a suitable replacement or boost other parts of the team. Dortmund's adaptability was clear post Haaland when they got more points. I believe, improving their overall score next season could bring them the long-awaited trophy.

[Leviathan.007]

Borussia Dortmund is known to be selling their best players in almost all the summer transfer windows and that is why Bayern Munich will continue to dominate the German Bundesliga for more seasons to come.
Jadon Sancho was sold last two summer before Erling Haaland was sold to Manchester City last summer and now Jude Bellingham has left for Real Madrid. I think the club's transfer strategy isn't concerned by the success of the team rather they're more concerned by how much they make as gains when they sell these players. They might also be lucky raise another great player before the end of next season and still sell him at the end of the season

If they were able to retain the good players, Bayern could not have been dominating the league for years. It takes a consistent team to have great success, it's only financially good to sell a player who can make money without using it to another team.
On the one hand, they are doing something quite logical, they always sell their players when they are at their most valuable and make a lot of money. But their chances of becoming champions are dwindling

One thing I really want to see is that it is not easy for Dortmund to let go of its key players, because if Dortmund dares to make the choice to keep their key players by increasing their salaries then of course Dortmund will be able to win a trophy. Because even though Dortmund always sell their key players, but the reality is that Dortmund can still compete well in the Bundesliga title race. Therefore, if only one season Dortmund can retain all its key players, then of course Dortmund will be able to stop Bayern Munich's successive title success.

A team got some ways to make money and even teams like Dortmund earn money by selling talents they have like Bellingham and previously with Haaland they lose many great talents and because of that they are not in a situation to compare them with Bayern Munich but that's how they can earn money and that's their business for years.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Leipzig was the team that beat Bayern to take it to last game, if it wasn't for that then Dortmund wouldn't even have a chance to win the title, Bayern would have simply be the champion anyway, Leipzig won and Dortmund got a small hope at least.

If a team is good enough to take out Bayern from the title leadership, then they are good enough to beat Frankfurt as well. I am fully expecting them to be winning the title and that should be a lot better, I know for a fact that it is not going to be easy, but at the very least we are going to end up with something a bit different, and that should be a bit better in the end and I could see it becoming an easy Leipzig win which would not be a good return, but you can do like 2.5+ over and it could be much better.

I say that the one who was going to win the Bundesliga here was Bayern, there is no other way, Dortmund does have a very competitive team and they can almost take the Bundesliga away from Bayern, so things are not bad, only experience is here It is the one that came to the surface and it is well seen , for my part I see that what Bayern did is excellent, they made their caste known, despite the fact that they had so many technical and strategic problems, they were removed from the UCL , when they did not have everything to win , well , things didn't work out for him , but at least they Stayed with the Bundesliga.

Liverpool are set to do battle with Bayern Munich in the race to sign Wolfsburg defender Micky van de Ven.

The Netherlands U21 star has done well in the Bundesliga, leading to suggestions that Liverpool may sign him. But as usually happens when players impress in the German top-fight, Bayern are also said to be hot on his trail.

Source: https://www.rousingthekop.com/2023/06/17/bayern-have-already-told-26m-player-they-want-to-sign-him-liverpool-could-try-and-stop-them-journalist/

[Docnaster]

Borussia Dortmund is known to be selling their best players in almost all the summer transfer windows and that is why Bayern Munich will continue to dominate the German Bundesliga for more seasons to come.
Jadon Sancho was sold last two summer before Erling Haaland was sold to Manchester City last summer and now Jude Bellingham has left for Real Madrid. I think the club's transfer strategy isn't concerned by the success of the team rather they're more concerned by how much they make as gains when they sell these players. They might also be lucky raise another great player before the end of next season and still sell him at the end of the season

If they were able to retain the good players, Bayern could not have been dominating the league for years. It takes a consistent team to have great success, it's only financially good to sell a player who can make money without using it to another team.
On the one hand, they are doing something quite logical, they always sell their players when they are at their most valuable and make a lot of money. But their chances of becoming champions are dwindling

One thing I really want to see is that it is not easy for Dortmund to let go of its key players, because if Dortmund dares to make the choice to keep their key players by increasing their salaries then of course Dortmund will be able to win a trophy. Because even though Dortmund always sell their key players, but the reality is that Dortmund can still compete well in the Bundesliga title race. Therefore, if only one season Dortmund can retain all its key players, then of course Dortmund will be able to stop Bayern Munich's successive title success.

A team got some ways to make money and even teams like Dortmund earn money by selling talents they have like Bellingham and previously with Haaland they lose many great talents and because of that they are not in a situation to compare them with Bayern Munich but that's how they can earn money and that's their business for years.

Bayern Munich undoubtedly are the best club in Germany and they possess the best players in terms of quality and delivering great performances in the country as well.
However I think Borussia Dortmund had a better chance to end Bayern Munich's dominance in the league by winning the title on the last day of the league season but wastefully threw away their best chance to win the Bundesliga in 11 years.

[Google+]

A team got some ways to make money and even teams like Dortmund earn money by selling talents they have like Bellingham and previously with Haaland they lose many great talents and because of that they are not in a situation to compare them with Bayern Munich but that's how they can earn money and that's their business for years.

Among them are Bellingham, Mahmoud Dahoud and several other players who will leave Dortmund this season, either being sold or leaving on a free transfer. But what's interesting is that Bellingham departure to Real Madrid happened recently and of course Dortmund made a sizable profit on the sale of Bellingham. The player selling business has indeed been carried out by dortmund in every season because it is an easy way for them to get big profits. From this huge advantage Dortmund can buy many other players from other leagues at a low price and that is what they do in producing talented players every season. But with what dortmund is doing, of course, it makes them not too strong in every season because they have to lose several important players in every season.

[KTChampions]

One thing I really want to see is that it is not easy for Dortmund to let go of its key players, because if Dortmund dares to make the choice to keep their key players by increasing their salaries then of course Dortmund will be able to win a trophy. Because even though Dortmund always sell their key players, but the reality is that Dortmund can still compete well in the Bundesliga title race. Therefore, if only one season Dortmund can retain all its key players, then of course Dortmund will be able to stop Bayern Munich's successive title success.

11 years without a title I would call a big failure than a good competition  In general, Dortmund has actually turned into a trophy-free club - they sometimes win the German Cup, but all their significant successes like the Bundesliga title or some kind of Euro Cup are in the past. Sad situation for a top 2 club in Germany. In every other country, the top 2 (and even the top 3) have done significantly better in the last 10 years.