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June 29, 2023, 08:03:21 PM
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The way Dortmund find players for their team is very much clear to me, they are investing in younger players and talents like Jude Bellingham and Haaland this way they find talents they need for their teams and then after investing just a few amounts of money on these players, they can sell players for a huge amount of money, just like what they did with these two players recently.
That is right and they are very good at it, and been for many years. They have interligent scouts and they look for the jewels and convince them with the Champions League and many successes. The current team is 24 years old on average and a new top star is born every year. This year it was Bellingham, next year it could be Youssoufa Moukoko. It is one of the best Clubs in germany.

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June 29, 2023, 08:10:19 PM
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Dortmund still look like the only team that can maintain this title race for now. They can just continue to implement their vision by highly profitable player sales. However they should be able to stay in the title race as much as possible to prevent the season from turning into a boring one.
I don't know how long it will take before Dortmund gets another chance like they did last season, when i think about it i cannot still believe that Dortmund lost that opportunity and i don't know how their players can manage to forget about that disappointment. If Bayern's domination of the bundesliga was to end, it would have been last season because they were not playing well, but since it didn't happen then, i am not optimistic that it is going to happen anytime soon again, they will continue to make the bundesliga a very boring league.

I remember once Dortmund were quite competitive for the Bundesliga title. They became champions two times in a row - 2010/2011 and 2011/2012 seasons. Those were times they had Lewandowski in the squad as well. Especially in the latter season he scored quite many goals and started to draw the attention to himself. After a couple of more seasons Bayern Munich signed him as well and it became much more difficult for Dortmund to make it to the title again.

They could have still built the team according to that but they didn't want that. They just wanted to have a vision aiming to make high profit in young and talented player sales. I don't feel like this vision will be gone in the near future either.

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June 29, 2023, 08:16:49 PM
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No matter what Dortmund must be still in a very good position financially. After Bellingham's sale they have made a big amount of money. This is their priority in the end so I don't think they are still thinking about how they can lose their title chance like that. Yeah it was really unbelievable but they are still able to reach their main goals according to their vision.
As long as they make so much money in sales of their players it wouldn't be important for them whether they are champions or not. I assume the fans think the opposite but they must be also aware of Dortmund's policy already. Otherwise Dortmund can easily build a squad that can be much more competitive for the league title to win.
Yes indeed, even though Dortmund continue to sell their best players but the fact is, Dortmund will still be fine and there is nothing to worry about for Dortmund. But indeed, if Dortmund really has the ambition to be better and stronger to win titles and trophies then of course, Dortmund must change this way or tradition. Therefore, Bayern Munich can consistently win the Bundesliga title, because its rival teams do not have big ambitions to win the Bundesliga title from season to season.
Borussia Dortmund always find a way to find the players they need, and it does every season. Many said that maybe when Borussia Dortmund left their star players would make it difficult for them, but they always showed new talents which in the end made them play stably even though they left many influential players in the team.
I'm actually looking forward to who the name will be big with Borussia Dortmund, and the possibility will be seen again.
The way Dortmund find players for their team is very much clear to me, they are investing in younger players and talents like Jude Bellingham and Haaland this way they find talents they need for their teams and then after investing just a few amounts of money on these players, they can sell players for a huge amount of money, just like what they did with these two players recently.

Dortmund management does not make mistakes in picking talented players. Jude Bellingham, Haaland and Haller were their perfect choices. They try to recruit talented and inexperienced players. And by making these players experienced enough in 1/2 season. Later, they sell players at high prices. That's what we've seen in the last few seasons. However, Dortmund team management and coach are very experienced. And that's why they can identify the right player. If the Dortmund management were rich, the team would have the potential to dominate the Bundesliga.

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June 29, 2023, 08:29:16 PM
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According to the last transfer news from today from Dortmund it looks like that Can will maybe extending his contract there.
If that will be happen its also possible that the transfer about Edson Alvarez maybe can be canceled.
Source about that is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WTkFZrpOFQ
Fingers crossed that Edson Alvarez is coming still to Dortmund even when Can gets a new contract.



Dortmund is not going to go for Edson Álvarez anymore.
They are actually going to talk with Emre Can and try to keep him for a longer time in the team.
Dortmund actually agreed with Edson Alvarez on personal terms. But they are still not going to finalize this deal.
An interesting decision was taken by Dortmund. I thought they are going to go through with this deal.

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June 29, 2023, 08:59:15 PM
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Dortmund is not going to go for Edson Álvarez anymore.
They are actually going to talk with Emre Can and try to keep him for a longer time in the team.
Dortmund actually agreed with Edson Alvarez on personal terms. But they are still not going to finalize this deal.
An interesting decision was taken by Dortmund. I thought they are going to go through with this deal.
Thanks for sharing the statement and post done by Fabrizio Romano as i not following his posts.
I also thought that they will be for sure making the deal with Edson Alvarez but Can is also nice to have them in Dortmund.
Maybe we will see some surprising transfer then in Dortmund.

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Ha if it was that easy they would do it, but what you mention here is something that they have been quarreling with for quite a while now. They are still hoping for some younger talents from their own youth to finally tackle the challenge and make it into the first team of Bayern Munich. That would save them a lot of money and there wouldn't be the urgency all the time to do something about their offensive problems. But there is no Thomas Muller right now in their youth teams. Muller was the discovery of the year back then when Louis van Gaal gave him a chance. But the business has become too fast and you can't be patiently waiting for a talent to emerge from your own youth teams, you have to solve them problem immediately with cash. The chances for young talents from the own youth teams are also vanishing as they don't have time to prove they could be worth a try. 
Actually talking about current talent there is one that can be looked at for next season like now they will try to maximize Ryan Gravenberch or Musiala but indeed this is back again they are only midfielders trying to improve the quality of attacks but there is still no striker who can be used as benchmark in this case.
As you said buying with money is a short way to do it but until now they haven't done that yet and their focus is still on Kane. I was expecting other options but until now when talking about strikers Bayern still seem to be focused on Kane and when that doesn't work it will be a bit of a problem.

There is again something in the making around Kane and this time it has been officially confirmed by Bayern that they sent an offer to Tottenham trying to transfer Kane for €70 million. But so far it seems that Tottenham refused the offer although Bayern and Kane have agreed upon the terms for a contract. That is what the news say but it is worthless as long as Tottenham doesn't agree to sell him for €70 million. Bayern knows that they don't have that many options to fix that problem now but I can see how Bayern is struggling to pay more for Kane. He isn't young anymore and the closer they get to the 100 million for this transfer, the higher the risk if course. If he gets injured, it would be a horrible situation for them as they would be in the same situation again.
Because indeed 70 million will not be looked at considering Tottenham's condition is still the same as only wanting to release 100 million+ for a Kane.
But there is an interesting thing now that the 70 million bid rejected is reportedly now Bayern back off the hunt for Kane and looking for other alternatives at this time.
Don't know if this is just their push and pull plan or if this is really the end of the Bayern and Kane drama but right now there are some reports suggesting they are trying to approach Osimhen for a new target.
Although it is said in this case it looks like it will be more difficult because Bayern only dared to pay 100 million for Osimhen even though looking at the current conditions Napoli opened an offer of 180 million for this player.
I don't know, but it looks like this offer is just playing, especially considering PSG have prepared 150 million for Osimhen if Mbappe really leaves this season.

That is some interesting information you are sharing here, but I get what they are thinking at Bayern Munich. Paying 100 million for Kane gets them to the level where it doesn't matter whether they put more money on top of it and get a younger striker with a long future. Kane is 5.5 years older than Osimhen and if you divide the potential transfer fee by the years that Osimhen would have left, he is most likely the better investment for Bayern. But 180 million are new heights and they have never had a deal that was even close to that. Napoli has time and can try and see what might be possible, but I doubt that any other club would be willing to pay as much.

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June 29, 2023, 09:38:06 PM
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The way Dortmund find players for their team is very much clear to me, they are investing in younger players and talents like Jude Bellingham and Haaland this way they find talents they need for their teams and then after investing just a few amounts of money on these players, they can sell players for a huge amount of money, just like what they did with these two players recently.
Dortmund did quite a great signing in every transfer window as they were able to see the potential of their target player in the transfer window. If you look at it, Dortmund did not spend a lot of money in signing players because they bought players from teams that were not well known. I think the investment they make always profit off in every transfer window.

Dortmund income from the sale of Bellingham to Real Madrid is enormous. So that Dortmund can bring in many players in the transfer window this season. In fact, every player signing that is done by Dortmund always surprises us because they bring in players from leagues that are not famous for cheap prices.

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June 29, 2023, 10:25:42 PM
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We can't still be sure about Bayern Munich in the next season with Tuchel and how they are going to perform because we didn't see much from this coach, he never had enough time to show his performance in Bayern Munich and just after he joined Bayern Munich they had to play in the champions league against Manchester City while Bayern Munich had a new coach and Manchester City had a stable and good situation with Guardiola.
I think Tuchel can hire some more players and get his team read y for the next season in Bundesliga and Champions League to have better perfume than what we saw in the previous season.

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June 29, 2023, 10:55:24 PM
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We can't still be sure about Bayern Munich in the next season with Tuchel and how they are going to perform because we didn't see much from this coach, he never had enough time to show his performance in Bayern Munich and just after he joined Bayern Munich they had to play in the champions league against Manchester City while Bayern Munich had a new coach and Manchester City had a stable and good situation with Guardiola.
I think Tuchel can hire some more players and get his team read y for the next season in Bundesliga and Champions League to have better perfume than what we saw in the previous season.

Tuchel is a very experienced coach but we don't know if he will be successful with Bayern Munich. Munich played 12 matches after he became the coach. Bayern Munich won 6 matches and lost 4 matches. It was not a good result for a team like Bayern Munich. Moreover, Munich's performance is not stable. Bayern Munich will face big problems next season if the coach cannot stabilize the team. Bayern Munich needs an experienced striker. Tuchel should quickly add his preferred striker to the squad.

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June 29, 2023, 11:05:27 PM
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Bayern Munich should start with bringing a solid centre-forward first. Until then they will still be lacking an important player in the attacking line. It isn't the kind of a job that they can do with Mane or Choupo-Moting in this position. They tried this last season but failed after that. Even their winning the Bundesliga title was by chance thanks to Dortmund's huge mistake. If they had a centre-forward like Lewandowski they could have had a much more comfortable run in the Bundesliga and they could have been stronger in the Champions League.

They have made a start by making their first offer for Kane though but this was quite below the price Tottenham wanted for him. Kane or someone else they should solve this problem in the summer.

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June 30, 2023, 12:05:33 AM
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Bayern Munich should start with bringing a solid centre-forward first. Until then they will still be lacking an important player in the attacking line. It isn't the kind of a job that they can do with Mane or Choupo-Moting in this position. They tried this last season but failed after that. Even their winning the Bundesliga title was by chance thanks to Dortmund's huge mistake. If they had a centre-forward like Lewandowski they could have had a much more comfortable run in the Bundesliga and they could have been stronger in the Champions League.

They have made a start by making their first offer for Kane though but this was quite below the price Tottenham wanted for him. Kane or someone else they should solve this problem in the summer.
Harry Kane is Bayern Munich choice for a centre-forward position and negotiations may be ongoing. Even though the first offer was rejected by Tottenham, I'm sure Bayern Munich won't just give up on getting Harry Kane. Choupo moting might be eliminated if Bayern Munich gets Harry Kane in this season's transfer window.

Tuchel will continue to monitor a number of potential players that they will bring in to strengthen the team next season. But for now, only Harry Kane is being focused on by Bayern Munich after they managed to get Kim.

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June 30, 2023, 02:12:57 AM
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Harry Kane is Bayern Munich choice for a centre-forward position and negotiations may be ongoing. Even though the first offer was rejected by Tottenham, I'm sure Bayern Munich won't just give up on getting Harry Kane.


Tuchel will continue to monitor a number of potential players that they will bring in to strengthen the team next season. But for now, only Harry Kane is being focused on by Bayern Munich after they managed to get Kim.
Harry Kane can play at the striker position, scores goals as he is good with goal scoring but he can contribute more for Bayern Munich and can help Mane to play better. Mane will get benefit from Kane like Son Heung Min in Tottenham. They are both very speedy players and dangerous with counter attacking while Kane has very good vision and great passing skills.

Kane and Mane can benefit mutually and at Bayern Munich, they have two other young players, Musiala and Sane. Together, they will make a very dangerous attacking system for Bayern: Mane, Kane, Sane at the front line and Musiala will support them from the midfield.

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Choupo moting might be eliminated if Bayern Munich gets Harry Kane in this season's transfer window.
Choupo-Moting can be kept as an alternative striker for Kane but if he does not happy, he can leave.

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June 30, 2023, 05:44:48 AM
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Bayern Munich should start with bringing a solid centre-forward first. Until then they will still be lacking an important player in the attacking line. It isn't the kind of a job that they can do with Mane or Choupo-Moting in this position. They tried this last season but failed after that. Even their winning the Bundesliga title was by chance thanks to Dortmund's huge mistake. If they had a centre-forward like Lewandowski they could have had a much more comfortable run in the Bundesliga and they could have been stronger in the Champions League.

They have made a start by making their first offer for Kane though but this was quite below the price Tottenham wanted for him. Kane or someone else they should solve this problem in the summer.
Harry Kane is Bayern Munich choice for a centre-forward position and negotiations may be ongoing. Even though the first offer was rejected by Tottenham, I'm sure Bayern Munich won't just give up on getting Harry Kane. Choupo moting might be eliminated if Bayern Munich gets Harry Kane in this season's transfer window.

Tuchel will continue to monitor a number of potential players that they will bring in to strengthen the team next season. But for now, only Harry Kane is being focused on by Bayern Munich after they managed to get Kim.
Bayern Munich is indeed quite famous for its ambition to be able to get the players it is targeting. Harry Kane will definitely meet the club's needs if he succeeds in joining Bayern Munich, but indeed sometimes things that they should be able to get at a reasonable cost but have to be blocked by the high prices desired by the club owners and Spurs here are indeed quite difficult for the players who will leave with a very high offer.

Even if Bayern Munich really wants Harry Kane, at least they have to spend more than 100 million euros and it's not a secret anymore if we look at the character of the Spurs owner. Kim Min Jae has indeed been confirmed to have joined Bayern Munich and for the current defense line it is quite safe even though Lucas Hernandez has finally joined PSG.

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June 30, 2023, 06:12:01 AM
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Bayern Munich is indeed quite famous for its ambition to be able to get the players it is targeting. Harry Kane will definitely meet the club's needs if he succeeds in joining Bayern Munich, but indeed sometimes things that they should be able to get at a reasonable cost but have to be blocked by the high prices desired by the club owners and Spurs here are indeed quite difficult for the players who will leave with a very high offer.

Even if Bayern Munich really wants Harry Kane, at least they have to spend more than 100 million euros and it's not a secret anymore if we look at the character of the Spurs owner. Kim Min Jae has indeed been confirmed to have joined Bayern Munich and for the current defense line it is quite safe even though Lucas Hernandez has finally joined PSG.
Tottenham's new manager, Angelos Postecoglou, will want to work with Harry Kane whenever he returns from his vacation. He is in the final twelve months of his contract at Tottenham Hotspur. The Englishman has been extensively linked with Bayern Munich and has already agreed to personal terms with the club; the only drawback is Spurs. They're asking for more for their all-time leading goal scorer, and I'm sure it won't be an easy race to sign him. Bayern Munich will not back down from their objective to sign a top goal scorer this summer.

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June 30, 2023, 06:49:19 AM
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Kane and Mane can benefit mutually and at Bayern Munich, they have two other young players, Musiala and Sane. Together, they will make a very dangerous attacking system for Bayern: Mane, Kane, Sane at the front line and Musiala will support them from the midfield.

The three names above end with the letter "E" so it looks like Kane will go to Bayern Munich  Cheesy. Because the transfer market is still open in about two months, so everything is possible, including how much the transfer fee will finally be agreed upon by the two clubs, whether it will be the same as the market value or even lower, and do not rule out a higher and it seems that the latter will be more likely to happen because Tottenham highly values their striker so it is impossible to let go at a price lower than the market price.
Harry Kane has been advised by many to leave Tottenham because a striker with goalscoring acumen like him needs a better club than the current one to allow him to lift a trophy and Bayern Munich can give that at least a Bundesliga trophy while the Champions League title will be different again. The presence of Harry Kane at Bayern Munich will strengthen their front line which has been quite weak in the last few matches last season.

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June 30, 2023, 07:00:48 AM
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Dortmund still look like the only team that can maintain this title race for now. They can just continue to implement their vision by highly profitable player sales. However they should be able to stay in the title race as much as possible to prevent the season from turning into a boring one.
I don't know how long it will take before Dortmund gets another chance like they did last season, when i think about it i cannot still believe that Dortmund lost that opportunity and i don't know how their players can manage to forget about that disappointment. If Bayern's domination of the bundesliga was to end, it would have been last season because they were not playing well, but since it didn't happen then, i am not optimistic that it is going to happen anytime soon again, they will continue to make the bundesliga a very boring league.

I remember once Dortmund were quite competitive for the Bundesliga title. They became champions two times in a row - 2010/2011 and 2011/2012 seasons. Those were times they had Lewandowski in the squad as well. Especially in the latter season he scored quite many goals and started to draw the attention to himself. After a couple of more seasons Bayern Munich signed him as well and it became much more difficult for Dortmund to make it to the title again.

They could have still built the team according to that but they didn't want that. They just wanted to have a vision aiming to make high profit in young and talented player sales. I don't feel like this vision will be gone in the near future either.
Dortmund was became an the champion of Bundesliga two times in a row at that time i think it because is Klopp factor and Klopp has done well at this team because he can able to build solid team without spend a lot of money with Dortmund and so far in the last 13 seasob in Bundesliga only Klopp who can able to broke the domination of Bayern Munich and after Klopp left Dortmund and went to Liverpool seems Dortmund has been lost their soul although they were several times changing manager but Dortmund only can able to pursuing Bayern Munich as runner up and actually if we compared from squad quality between Dortmund and Bayern Munich squad i think they quality looks equal because we all know Dortmund also has good talented players but from champion mentality obviously Bayern Munich is more better than Dortmund

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June 30, 2023, 08:05:20 AM
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Bayern Munich is indeed quite famous for its ambition to be able to get the players it is targeting. Harry Kane will definitely meet the club's needs if he succeeds in joining Bayern Munich, but indeed sometimes things that they should be able to get at a reasonable cost but have to be blocked by the high prices desired by the club owners and Spurs here are indeed quite difficult for the players who will leave with a very high offer.

Even if Bayern Munich really wants Harry Kane, at least they have to spend more than 100 million euros and it's not a secret anymore if we look at the character of the Spurs owner. Kim Min Jae has indeed been confirmed to have joined Bayern Munich and for the current defense line it is quite safe even though Lucas Hernandez has finally joined PSG.
Tottenham's new manager, Angelos Postecoglou, will want to work with Harry Kane whenever he returns from his vacation. He is in the final twelve months of his contract at Tottenham Hotspur. The Englishman has been extensively linked with Bayern Munich and has already agreed to personal terms with the club; the only drawback is Spurs. They're asking for more for their all-time leading goal scorer, and I'm sure it won't be an easy race to sign him. Bayern Munich will not back down from their objective to sign a top goal scorer this summer.
Indeed, it is all right if Spurs set an unreasonable price tag for a top-class player and it is not surprising that yesterday an offer from Bayern Munich of around 70 million euros plus add-ons was immediately rejected by Spurs. It is now Bayern Munich's decision whether they are still willing to raise their bid or not and if not they will likely leave Kane in search of another good striker.

But considering the good striker options that exist for now are indeed very limited and the clear opportunity only exists for Kane but the transfer fee is beyond the imagination of all clubs. On the other hand, Bayern Munich will have to sign a good striker if they want to dominate the Bundesliga next season and it will cost them quite a lot of money to get new players.

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June 30, 2023, 08:13:42 AM
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No matter what Dortmund must be still in a very good position financially. After Bellingham's sale they have made a big amount of money. This is their priority in the end so I don't think they are still thinking about how they can lose their title chance like that. Yeah it was really unbelievable but they are still able to reach their main goals according to their vision.
As long as they make so much money in sales of their players it wouldn't be important for them whether they are champions or not. I assume the fans think the opposite but they must be also aware of Dortmund's policy already. Otherwise Dortmund can easily build a squad that can be much more competitive for the league title to win.

We should not forget that Dortmund was basically bankrupt in the early 2000's because they made so much debts with stupid transfers in the years before that. Then Jürgen Klopp became the coach of Dortmund and then they started to rise again and they won the Bundesliga two times with him and they even made it into the final of the Champions League.
In the last few years it became their business model to buy young talents and then sell them again for high amounts of money.

Of course those were really hard times for Dortmund. But it seems like they have learned their lesson from that as we don't see such unnecessary transfers. They are only focused on reasonable transfers in which they can make a big profit. Sometimes things don't go exactly as they imagine as well of course.

For example Haaland could have been sold for a much higher amount of money considering that he is a very special striker. At least the same thing didn't happen with Bellingham. They need to be more careful with release clause cases while they are signing such talented players.

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June 30, 2023, 08:17:53 AM
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Bayern Munich should start with bringing a solid centre-forward first. Until then they will still be lacking an important player in the attacking line. It isn't the kind of a job that they can do with Mane or Choupo-Moting in this position. They tried this last season but failed after that. Even their winning the Bundesliga title was by chance thanks to Dortmund's huge mistake. If they had a centre-forward like Lewandowski they could have had a much more comfortable run in the Bundesliga and they could have been stronger in the Champions League.

They have made a start by making their first offer for Kane though but this was quite below the price Tottenham wanted for him. Kane or someone else they should solve this problem in the summer.
After leaving by Robert Lewandowski, Bayern Munich faced difficult looking for position leaving by him and right now has rumor only for signing Harry Kane. Last season, Bayern Munich almost failure for winning Bundesliga tittle before fatal mistake made by Dortmund on last games and Bayern become the winner. Center forward is crucial position for Bayern Munich because Sadio Mane can't replace position leave by Lewandowski and he most play well as left or right forward.

Actually Bayern Munich has Choupo-Moting as center forward, but he can't consistent on the top performance and ever scored several goals but got injured and difficult for him back to the top performance. Harry Kane is the best center forward option for Bayern Munich and have reach agreement as soon possible due many teams interested to sign Kane from Manchester United until Real Madrid.

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June 30, 2023, 08:40:02 AM
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After leaving by Robert Lewandowski, Bayern Munich faced difficult looking for position leaving by him and right now has rumor only for signing Harry Kane. Last season, Bayern Munich almost failure for winning Bundesliga tittle before fatal mistake made by Dortmund on last games and Bayern become the winner. Center forward is crucial position for Bayern Munich because Sadio Mane can't replace position leave by Lewandowski and he most play well as left or right forward.

Actually Bayern Munich has Choupo-Moting as center forward, but he can't consistent on the top performance and ever scored several goals but got injured and difficult for him back to the top performance. Harry Kane is the best center forward option for Bayern Munich and have reach agreement as soon possible due many teams interested to sign Kane from Manchester United until Real Madrid.

After Lewandowski left, I thought that Sane could become the leader of the attack, but this did not happen, the problem is that Bayern have a lot of very good attacking players, but they all operate from the depths, and they don’t have a pronounced central striker, a leader who would could realize the emerging moments ahead. I'm not really sure that Kane will be able to do this very well, but Bayern will definitely give him more opportunities to reach his potential.

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