CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action

[Gleb Gamow]

Geranimal216: guess they got worse for now.  Hope they can recover..

uhhmm NO.

What you want is them to give people their coins and close the door forever.
Exchanges that know how to run a business deserve your money.

You know what you people are ?
A battered wife who *hopes* her boyfriend stops bashing her skull in.

REMINDER #1189466322

They didn't just have a problem for a couple weeks.. it's been months and many times before that for years.

PLEASE STOP enabling Cryptsy with their shenanigans People !
Smarten up !

Google 1189466322 and look at the image. HAHAHA

Let's make that Cryptsy's mascot.

[Spoetnik]

It's official. 

Hi am Mr. Cryptsy THANKS for the Bitcoin sucka's !

[Gleb Gamow]

What is missing in this picture? Every time I ask in the troll box no one answers.






Hint it was added 13 Aug.

Electronic Gulden (EFL)

[Gleb Gamow]

Paul caught on camera enjoying fine dining while his users wait on the sidelines hoping he'll leave them some crumps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO_XqPUXmbE (SFW because it's on YT?)

[Xandrah]

News in today on the Cryptsy thread, what bs will Leroy Fodor feed the community today?

I see you, too, need a daily Fodor Fix. HAHAHA

Always need the fix, always get a good chuckle when he spouts off.

[jesselivermore]

TIC TOC

[Spoetnik]

just now..

JShock: @Dzefa954: We have not lost any customer service agents

Uhhmm ? Someone is lying then..

[volyova]

I notified Cryptsy about negative balance withdrawals in 2013 but biggie Vern hasn't learned to read e-mails yet and 2 years later it still worked in almost the same way.

Everybody knew it was a fucking broken piece of shit laggy scam site since inception.

Yes, we did Fonty. Yes, we did. But wot about the poor innocent newbs?

[craptsy_sucks]

just now..

JShock: @Dzefa954: We have not lost any customer service agents

Uhhmm ? Someone is lying then..

We still have all the same agents brought in at end of 2013 and early 2014

Why respond to this and not ANYTHING ELSE in this thread?

[Spoetnik]

just now..

JShock: @Dzefa954: We have not lost any customer service agents

Uhhmm ? Someone is lying then..

We still have all the same agents brought in at end of 2013 and early 2014

Ok well i guess BitJohn was mistaken or maybe i don't recall what he said off had.
I could have sworn he said their was lay-off's etc
It would take some digging for me to find the comment on this topic.

[volyova]

just now..

JShock: @Dzefa954: We have not lost any customer service agents

Uhhmm ? Someone is lying then..

We still have all the same agents brought in at end of 2013 and early 2014

You can never leave Cryptsy..

[madmartyk]

I have had a WD sitting at Pending for 5 days.  Today I filed a complaint with the FLA AG.

[Spoetnik]

@JIM
I am looking and don't see the comment i think i seen way back *yet but check this out..
Are you working from an Indian call center JShock ?

Interesting parts put in as BitJohn calls it "Ginormous Troll Font" LOL

PS:
I do believe i was right and yes i always can back up my mouth 

And that ain't lies.
That ain't Trolling.
That ain't FUD.
That is your staff quoted below..

I haven't chimed in in a while and want to clear up a few things as far as what I did at Cryptsy and a few other details.

Gleb if you go back in the board history you'll see I used to sell alts on the boards here. I met Paul on Litebonk (he ran the pool). When Worldcoin came out I asked if he knew how to set up a pool and he did for that and every new alt that came out. Back then there was a new one like once a month. Anyhow he inquired on the litebonk boards if anyone would use an alt exchange if we had one for the Litebonk miners. Of course we all liked that idea. So if you wee a litebonk miner you got to betatest Cryptsy. Make a long story short several of us beta tested and became moderators. I enjoyed moderating so stayed on and volunteered for the next year.

Cryptsy had only one paid employee after a year and that was the accountant. When the wall street journal article about Cryptsy hit things hit the fan and just about everyone who was a volunteer became a paid employee. Paul's other company was brought in to provide support. The other company was an offshore support company. They are the same agents you see now.

My main role was as the PR manager I handled the public, social media, advertising etc. I was a salaried employee and promoted the sites. Mintsy was a side company owned 50-50 by Project Investors and DigitalBTC. Yes I promoted it too as part of my job . The problem with Mintsy is DigitalBTC basically took all the revenues, and pulled out. I'd give some numbers, but trying to be as detailed without breaking my NDA I signed.

My last job I held was in operations managing the Customer support, Human Resources, Security folks. When the CTO resigned I filled in there for a while as well managing the developers. The new UI and such was my push. I left because I was literally doing to many peoples jobs for not enough money. Cut into family time and I was ready to do something else.

This thread was started by a guy who was being affected by a weird DB bug that would put the wrong hash for your password when you reset it. It got resolved with him.

Horus is an always has been the same person.... Not sure where you got confused on that. He took over my PR role.

Again the majority of the stakeholders (the folks who own it) in Cryptsy are not the people you see posting here beyond BigVern. The folks who post on these boards are salaried worker bees.


EDIT: Greenlion was let go the day after I left....

[Spoetnik]

@JShock
What was said is not too important to me.

What i seen on your Troll-Box while i ate breakfast is a user of yours asking you a question.
What is the problem and why not make an announcement about it ?
I mentioned this many times and i see a comment from BitJohn agreeing with me (more than once before)
Your silence is 1000x more damaging that any Troll's FUD'ing !

What i see is You JShock talking.. like the chat user said going on months now.
Either you don't know what is going on like you claimed on chat today.
OR you -DO- know what is going on but won't say.

Any explanations put forth have been grossly inadequate according to public opinion.

All i can say is Jim if you *really* don't know what is going on ?
Then all i can say is it's NOW time to put in on Vern and say hey, LOOK this has gone on long enough !

What we see is, BigVern runs things behind the scenes and YOU are the public figure talking.
Do you like taking all the flack for it all ?
Or do you think Paul Vernon should man up and say what -he- did behind the scenes ?

..

I'd pretty much guarantee JShock has never even seen the web sites code etc.
If anyone is screwing with things or guilty of running an incompetent faulty exchange it's BigVern !
And if JShock can't explain what is going on then the person -WHO CAN- needs to step up ASAP !

The only solution i see to this is BigVern needs to make a major public announcement coming 100% clean and needs to explain in detail what has been the problem.

[jesselivermore]

Volume still drying up.  Subtract out the phony BTC/EUR of $125,453 and you get a total of $134k in a 24 hour period.  Poloniex is now up to $1,542,406 in the last 24 hours:

http://www.worldcoinindex.com/exchange

[Gleb Gamow]

just now..

JShock: @Dzefa954: We have not lost any customer service agents

Uhhmm ? Someone is lying then..

We still have all the same agents brought in at end of 2013 and early 2014

Goddamn it, Jim, why can't you be straight-up with us? The agents you speak of are support carried over from http://web.archive.org/web/20111007060831/http://www.supportshift.com/about.php, with Reina Salibio and Leah Rombo being personal friends of you, your wife and Paul Vernon.

Back to the lies, the following two accounts by Jim and John DON'T jive!

I haven't chimed in in a while and want to clear up a few things as far as what I did at Cryptsy and a few other details.

Gleb if you go back in the board history you'll see I used to sell alts on the boards here. I met Paul on Litebonk (he ran the pool). When Worldcoin came out I asked if he knew how to set up a pool and he did for that and every new alt that came out. Back then there was a new one like once a month. Anyhow he inquired on the litebonk boards if anyone would use an alt exchange if we had one for the Litebonk miners. Of course we all liked that idea. So if you wee a litebonk miner you got to betatest Cryptsy. Make a long story short several of us beta tested and became moderators. I enjoyed moderating so stayed on and volunteered for the next year. [Cryptsy went live on May 20, 2013. Add a year - DO THE MATH!]

Cryptsy had only one paid employee after a year and that was the accountant. [The account is Jim Shockney's wife, Virginia "Ginny" Bryant-Shockney] When the wall street journal article about Cryptsy hit things hit the fan and just about everyone who was a volunteer became a paid employee. [Here's the WSJ article dated November, 13, 2013: http://www.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303789604579195773841529160] Paul's other company was brought in to provide support. The other company was an offshore support company. They are the same agents you see now. [Again, just folks living abroad who also handled Paul, Jim and Ginny's http://web.archive.org/web/20111007060831/http://www.supportshift.com/about.php, which is no longer a company]

My main role was as the PR manager I handled the public, social media, advertising etc. I was a salaried employee and promoted the sites. Mintsy was a side company owned 50-50 by Project Investors and DigitalBTC. Yes I promoted it too as part of my job . The problem with Mintsy is DigitalBTC basically took all the revenues, and pulled out. I'd give some numbers, but trying to be as detailed without breaking my NDA I signed.

My last job I held was in operations managing the Customer support, Human Resources, Security folks. When the CTO resigned I filled in there for a while as well managing the developers. The new UI and such was my push. I left because I was literally doing to many peoples jobs for not enough money. Cut into family time and I was ready to do something else.

This thread was started by a guy who was being affected by a weird DB bug that would put the wrong hash for your password when you reset it. It got resolved with him.

Horus is an always has been the same person.... Not sure where you got confused on that. He took over my PR role.

Again the majority of the stakeholders (the folks who own it) in Cryptsy are not the people you see posting here beyond BigVern. The folks who post on these boards are salaried worker bees.


EDIT: Greenlion was let go the day after I left....

Prior to the run-up just mullick and I worked support and did it as volunteers. [Run-up date circa November 2013; 1/2 year after Cryptsy went live] The next person hired after accountant [porn star, Ginny Bryant-Shockney] was the first developer/CTO. [CTO was Bryant Ibana: http://web.archive.org/web/20131102234026/https://www.cryptsy.com/pages/about; Marshall Long is the CTO of project Investors, Inc.] Im really not concerned if you think it makes sense its a fact. The site only had 30k account after the first year. [like Leroy Fodor who can't calculate his GMT time in the Philippines, BitJohn continues to confuse a half year with a year]

EDIT:
The support scaled pretty quickly when the support company was merged. [again, supportshift.com, now defunct] Jshock and his crew joined the team. [the crew consisted of Jim Shockney and his porn star wife and two fellow porn actress friends living in the Philippines] Mullick, and I trained them. [keep this in mind when you read Jim's account which follows below] Mullick moved to Florida, and started getting a paycheck. I joined after that.

I guess its time to make an appearance. Though it will be short.
I personally do not have the patience or right temperament for forums fud and trolls, so I tend to keep away from where they reside.

Just to clear up a couple of things:
Horus and Pr9me were volunteers to start, [BitJohn doesn't mention them above] when i came on board and the WSJ article came out we needed some extra help in company and we brought
them both in. [doing the MATHS, that 1/2 year after Cryptsy came online, NOT A YEAR] At that time however neither were actual employees and Pr9me wasnt putting in the time he was getting paid for so he was basically let go.
Horus after a time was then hired by us. [by one account by BitJohn, he, Mullick and Horus were hired on the same day, confirmed in the next sentence] To my knowledge Pr9me is not Horus and Im pretty sure i brought them both on at same time.. [Jim Shockney and his crew were supposedly brought on and trained by BitJohn to handle support, but here is Jim claiming he did the hiring]

We have a new PR manager who will begin addressing the public very soon. He works for me and his name is HORUS  lol  Enjoy! [This PR dude named HORUS whom we've yet to meet replaced BitJohn]

Somewhere within the lies presented above by JShock aka Jim Shockney aka [Smolin'] Humbolt and BitJohn aka [wait till we finally discover his real identity] lies the for-real truth.

[bill_d]

what's amazing to me is that they have kept going this long with what are obviously such deep-rooted problems and offering their users so little by of information - I guess the volume says it all though, it's slow death now

[peonminer]

"Please excuse the $6,000,000.00 net worth Bitcoin wallet intimately connected to Cryptsy's wallets. Your withdrawals will continue to slow down as our $6,000,000.00 wallet is also used in our multiply your profit HYIP scam seen here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.msg13302396#msg13302396 as our older scam, scryptsy, seen here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700463.msg12188682#msg12188682 . By the way, we're all still here. You can never leave this place. We're all slowly getting shipped economy freight to a sweatshop in China where all of this is legal. Don't worry, it'll all be figured out In Two Weeks™. We bought that slogan from Butterfly Labs, don't worry we're not breaking the law when we use it."

[Spoetnik]

"Please excuse the $6,000,000.00 net worth Bitcoin wallet intimately connected to Cryptsy's wallets. Your withdrawals will continue to slow down as our $6,000,000.00 wallet is also used in our multiply your profit HYIP scam seen here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.msg13302396#msg13302396 as our older scam, scryptsy, seen here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700463.msg12188682#msg12188682 . By the way, we're all still here. You can never leave this place. We're all slowly getting shipped economy freight to a sweatshop in China where all of this is legal. Don't worry, it'll all be figured out In Two Weeks™. We bought that slogan from Butterfly Labs, don't worry we're not breaking the law when we use it."

I just reminded a guy about that on IRC actually.
He had posted a link..
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3xooqo/the_best_running_theory_on_what_is_happening_at/

I don't do Reddit but feel free to set them straight guys

And i guess Jim did not want to respond back to me again LOL

Kind of tough to dispute what BitJohn said.. and not call him a liar publicly hahhaha

[BitJohn]

Greenlion was a volunteer mod he doesn't count probably. The layoffs were devs, netadmins and compliance there was a Tier II support employee in there in CS as well. So hes most likely referring to the Tier I CS agents.

Edit: Yes Jim did all the hiring. I was asked to bring him up to speed since the interface, and company was new to him and his team.

Edit 2: I was put on payroll when Jim came to the company for that reason. Yes I worked for Jim for some time.

Edit 3: Was going to quote gleb but its too long Ill just comment. Yes your timeline is pretty accurate 6-12 months not Leroy time. Ginny was not the first accountant. The first accountant left the company about 4-5 months ago. Bryant was the first CTO replaced by Marshall Long who also left a month or two ago. Supportshift was the company that came in and took over support and later just merged in. Yes myself Mullick, Horus and Pr9me were paid all at the same time when Jim was brought in though it was as contractors for the first check or two don't remember exactly. Jim did the hiring though a few folks were already doing most of the support so no he didn't hire them. They did all work for him.