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February 16, 2016, 09:01:45 PM
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I call BS, if someone market bought & injected 400 BTC into the market EXP would have gone alot higher than a dollar. Take what scambust says with a grain of salt.

Yes, you can't trust everything on the internet. I believe that story just as much as the one where that guy lost 15 million dollars in BTC buying a fake record deal. Anyone with 400 + BTC knows to buy low and be patient. If not, then all I can say is some whales beat some other whales. Believe it or not, we are not whales, but there are plenty of them out there. Various groups even tweeted about it, maybe they had some connection? (I didn't even tweet about it that day, but I did write a pretty good article the day before, that is all)

What we did do when we designed it was to make it intentionally rare, and that was partially to make it better for speculative trading, and yes, for whales. We knew this would help with volume and eliminate the risk of having a flat line crypto. This also helps with price variation by making the count low enough so it can be very tradable at essentially any marketcap value, and never has the problem platforms with billions of tokens may run into.

What I do know, traders that are big players have said they love EXP, so I would expect there will be accumulation and more volatility in the future. Plan accordingly.

A lot of flaws in this.

A decent coin should first focus on it's purpose and speculative issues should not be a consideration.

This coin is just a clone with some bells and whistles right?

What prevents somebody from making a slightly sharper clone with better bells and whistles?

As for the person who claimed to have sunk 400 btc, that story does not ring true, but a lot of people must have bought at the high around 0.003 and those people have not done well obviously.

Remember in 2013 when lots of btc clones were coming out. The only ones that are still around are the ones that were issued with a strong ethical aura, e.g. no premine, some genuine improvement, some real purpose, a theme etc.

This coin has a lot of positives but the fact that devs are primarily focused on speculative potential puts it squarely in the pumpndump.

We designed every element for survival and eventual success. Even little things like the number 8 for the reward, that is a very special number in China. We could have made it 10, but why not use every design element in the best way possible? The coin is rare, but there are still enough. I think it is a good balance, and eventually, many years from now, there will be 13 million+ tokens out. What we didn't want was any risk of getting to a low sat price and then have people stuck and unable to trade. For example, a coin with many billions of tokens could be worth 2 sats, that is a huge problem because then there is a vast price difference in the buys and sells. We avoided that problem by designing it this way -- The pro and con that goes along with that, it does make it potentially more volatile early on.

That said. Bitcoin would not have gotten popular at a couple cents and no volatility. Nobody would have been talking about it. We all know it was lots of people hoping to get rich that made Bitcoin get press. That is also what gives Bitcoin the chance for real adoption and real world use. (Initial speculation) Speculation is mostly what is going on in cryptos right now, adoption is the end game. Adoption and real world use is a long term situation and something that realistically can take many years. So survival in the speculative world is very important early on. Please check into Expanse more though, rarity is just one small element and the very least of what we are doing. That was an element decided day one as it was so obviously the best design, and we have moved on from there spending many months working on Expanse.

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We designed every element for survival and eventual success. Even little things like the number 8 for the reward, that is a very special number in China. We could have made it 10, but why not use every design element in the best way possible? The coin is rare, but there are still enough. I think it is a good balance, and eventually, many years from now, there will be 13 million+ tokens out. What we didn't want was any risk of getting to a low sat price and then have people stuck and unable to trade. For example, a coin with many billions of tokens could be worth 2 sats, that is a huge problem because then there is a vast price difference in the buys and sells. We avoided that problem by designing it this way -- The pro and con that goes along with that, it does make it potentially more volatile early on.

That said. Bitcoin would not have gotten popular at a couple cents and no volatility. Nobody would have been talking about it. We all know it was lots of people hoping to get rich that made Bitcoin get press. That is also what gives Bitcoin the chance for real adoption and real world use. (Initial speculation) Speculation is mostly what is going on in cryptos right now, adoption is the end game. Adoption and real world use is a long term situation and something that realistically can take many years. So survival in the speculative world is very important early on. Please check into Expanse more though, rarity is just one small element and the very least of what we are doing. That was an element decided day one as it was so obviously the best design, and we have moved on from there spending many months working on Expanse.

Good answer.
Just the fact that you have not switched to a moderated thread is the strongest plus sign for this coin.

Glad you agree, I feel very strongly about having it non moderated. Transparency is basically everything for growing a strong community.

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Some concerns though. The 380 btc buy wall at .00050199 looks like it was put by someone trying to pump the price rather than actually buy. Pumps are getting a little more clever than they used to be. People need to be a little bit careful. Still a lot of positives.

The more buy support the better, but "they" don't send me a memo on that sort of thing. If you look at the charts maybe we hit bottom and it is possible some are accumulating more. From my perspective the more the merrier, but for trading people should always be careful -- I suggest newer people just mine. Speaking of that, eventually we will have one click mining, and we might go hybrid POW/POS, so newer people could always mine to get involved without the risks of trading.

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February 16, 2016, 10:00:47 PM
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The more buy support the better, but "they" don't send me a memo on that sort of thing. If you look at the charts maybe we hit bottom and it is possible some are accumulating more. From my perspective the more the merrier, but for trading people should always be careful. I suggest newer people just mine.


Surely true but the motive behind the 'development' is important, i.e., authentic innovation vs. commercial schlock.

And the huge wall is not 'buy' support, it is pump support. If that player actually wanted to buy they would have placed a smaller wall at a higher level

"They" may not send you a memo about stuff like that but ...

We are happy to see people interested, and I don't make judgements for how traders trade, that is up to them. I also believe we have lots of innovative ideas being developed -- Feel free to read up on the white paper and roadmap for more detail. 

http://www.expanse.tech/docs/whitepaper-draft.pdf

http://www.expanse.tech/docs/roadmap.pdf

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February 17, 2016, 12:47:50 AM
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Question: Dusting off some dual GPU mining rigs. Can someone post their .bat file for multiple GPU's ... never set up multiple for this algo, just been mining EXP with single GPU's.

I am running windows 64

Thanks for any help  Cool

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February 17, 2016, 01:38:12 AM
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Question: Dusting off some dual GPU mining rigs. Can someone post their .bat file for multiple GPU's ... never set up multiple for this algo, just been mining EXP with single GPU's.

I am running windows 64

Thanks for any help  Cool

ethminer -G -F http://exp.suprnova.cc:3000/yourworkernamehere.1/80


This is what I would use for 3 280x miners, the difference is the last number for multiple GPUs. Maybe 20-30 for one GPU.

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February 17, 2016, 01:57:54 AM
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Question: Dusting off some dual GPU mining rigs. Can someone post their .bat file for multiple GPU's ... never set up multiple for this algo, just been mining EXP with single GPU's.

I am running windows 64

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ethminer -G -F http://exp.suprnova.cc:3000/yourworkernamehere.1/80


This is what I would use for 3 280x miners, the difference is the last number for multiple GPUs. Maybe 20-30 for one GPU.
Hey thanks! I will use that as such. See if it recognizes 2nd card. Still unfitting that and another dual GPU tower (new powers supplies lol)

Will let ya know!

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February 17, 2016, 04:47:21 AM
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So how do I mine this solo , I have the gexp bin running and its synching but I have no idea what to do now.

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February 17, 2016, 07:24:19 AM
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So how do I mine this solo , I have the gexp bin running and its synching but I have no idea what to do now.

You need to point an Ethereminer to the gexp console. If you read the first few pages of the thread, you can find the answer.

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February 17, 2016, 07:43:15 AM
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You got some one trying really hard to give the impression off mass dumping on poloniex for the last two days.. really blatant
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February 17, 2016, 08:33:21 AM
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You got some one trying really hard to give the impression off mass dumping on poloniex for the last two days.. really blatant


I am not sure if I see anything different with selling from some other alts right now. A lot of volatility as Bitcoin is rallying. (imho)

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February 17, 2016, 08:35:05 AM
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https://www.mixcloud.com/dogedradio/se2e02-expanse-with-chris-frank/

Rick Stoner interviewing Chris Franko about Expanse. Rick asks a lot of great questions, an interesting interview. Smiley

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February 17, 2016, 11:23:17 AM
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http://forum.expanse.tech/topic/41/seeking-community-input-on-future-update-options

Seeking community input on future changes. Do you like Proof of Stake only? Proof of Work? Hybrid? Don't worry about inflation though, we will keep it rare. Just a matter of what works best for the community.

Personal opinion, leaning toward Hybrid POS/POW. That way people can always mine, and stake coins. We can design it any way we want of course, so even a hybrid could have less inflation than now. Please chime in, love to hear what everyone thinks! Smiley

One thing I like about the hybrid idea is that eventually we will have one click mining. This could be a way to safely introduce new people to Expanse, with easy fun mining. POS only of course would not have that option.

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February 17, 2016, 02:38:49 PM
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So how do I mine this solo , I have the gexp bin running and its synching but I have no idea what to do now.

You need to point an Ethereminer to the gexp console. If you read the first few pages of the thread, you can find the answer.

I could see no links to an etherminer or instructions on how to set it up.

How do I get url of my local gexp?
what port is it using?

I have created an address using etherum windows wallet I can only assume its talking to my gexp.

The instructions on the first page where for Linux and not windows.

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February 17, 2016, 04:06:45 PM
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http://forum.expanse.tech/topic/41/seeking-community-input-on-future-update-options

Seeking community input on future changes. Do you like Proof of Stake only? Proof of Work? Hybrid? Don't worry about inflation though, we will keep it rare. Just a matter of what works best for the community.

Personal opinion, leaning toward Hybrid POS/POW. That way people can always mine, and stake coins. We can design it any way we want of course, so even a hybrid could have less inflation than now. Please chime in, love to hear what everyone thinks! Smiley

One thing I like about the hybrid idea is that eventually we will have one click mining. This could be a way to safely introduce new people to Expanse, with easy fun mining. POS only of course would not have that option.

I think that we should keep the PoW alone first, then, you introduce PoS and divide the mining reward to keep the same amount of coins being generated. Another option is PoW only and the PoS only. I'd be happy of both.

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February 17, 2016, 05:19:43 PM
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Is it possible EXP mining on the CPU? What programs? What manual?

Not really, it is for GPU. GPU is just so much more powerful that CPU does not really work for it in any practical way. (it would be so low)

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Is hashrate my CPU 32500 is a good result?

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Looking to make an Expanse mining calculator for people to use. However, I can't seem to find an api to fetch network stats. Does anyone know of one?



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February 17, 2016, 07:29:22 PM
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I have two Nvidia cards 970gtx running.
They give a hashrate of 37MH on a PCI expres port 2.0.
On a good day they run 50MH at max.
I dont know how much it does on 3.0 but i think its not much more!
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February 17, 2016, 07:47:16 PM
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I have two Nvidia cards 970gtx running.
They give a hashrate of 37MH on a PCI expres port 2.0.
On a good day they run 50MH at max.
I dont know how much it does on 3.0 but i think its not much more!

The GTX 970 that someone locate me give me each between 16 and 20 MH/s. You get 18,5 per crad, so this is really good Wink !
By the way, I came back to Expanse after the Ethereum little price dump that make my daily profit a bit low. I'd like to know how to recover the 1,5 EXP that Franko gave me when the GUI wallet was released, can someone help me to do so Smiley ?

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