[ANN] Expanse (EXP) - 1st Stable fork of Ethereum (New Algo + PirlGuard)

[CryptoClub]

can someone school me on the crypto coin? I don't want to re-read and search this thread..just some pros/cons on EXP so I can invest.  I'm seeing this fly on polo exhange and just want to see whats goin on. thx

It's great!  Buy it!

Anything else?

I think we have a really great summary on the blog.

http://blog.expanse.tech

[nickhiggins123]

Thanks for the bitcoins. This is done.

[operabit]

WOW High 200k satoshi on bittrex 

[Timeline]

Crazy price swings on Polo and really good volume for EXP

[loki0505]

OMG...looks like i got in at the right time!!! WOW WOW WOW  

[asnghost]

Most crazy price increase ever!! https://www.worldcoinindex.com/coin/expanse

Also crazy trading day 

[wasref]

Most crazy price increase ever!! https://www.worldcoinindex.com/coin/expanse

franko was up 6291%

[asnghost]

Most crazy price increase ever!! https://www.worldcoinindex.com/coin/expanse

franko was up 6291%

ok true, but on small volume right?

[Jonesd]

I never really understand this attitude, because it seems like such a waste of time. I have made a lot of unsuccessful and only some successful bets on coins. The few that were successful were usually the ones that started small like this one. The profits I made on those good bets far outweighed the bad ones. Successful investors don't get scared to easily and think long-term. The chance of it becoming a success usually relies on the developers sticking to their plan and not getting distracted or unnerved.

Stuff like your comments should not let the devs think they lost support. I think still quite a lot more serious people (look at their forum levels) are waiting to see where this coin ends up.

@devs: I'm patient

It's easier to be negative online than it is to be negative offline. Small people IRL need to feel large online. The silver lining about trolls is, they bump the thread more than anyone else in the hopes to harm something but thats simply not how life works. As a matter of fact, every attack to a group from an outside "threat" only serves to make the community stronger, more unified. Trolls are ironically good FEED THE TROLLS!

Defaced, it seems we were right!

[MaGNeT]

I think the ETH technology and just 1.1 Million of coins in circulation could get it up to 0.02 BTC.

[wasref]

I still actively support all my projects and keep them up to date with time tested protocol changes.

I'll be implementing cross chain transactions and add frk functionality into expanse with a sort of "oracle" type contract.

But in all seriousness, if I havnt ditched FRK in 3 years why would I ditch it now?

[EmilioMann]

[ElitistCA]

not FUDing, serious question. Is 1.1 million good number? I think its too small amount for circulation, Why would anyone buy EXP if it would cost more than ETH? Thanx for answers.

[VeritasSapere]

not FUDing, serious question. Is 1.1 million good number? I think its too small amount for circulation, Why would anyone buy EXP it it would cost more than ETH? Thanx for answers.

The number of coins in circulation is irrelevant. Price of an individual unit is relative to the supply, while also being highly divisible.

[CryptoClub]

not FUDing, serious question. Is 1.1 million good number? I think its too small amount for circulation, Why would anyone buy EXP if it would cost more than ETH? Thanx for answers.

Around 11k new EXP per day mining, and then there will be some gain from POS later after POW ends, and from the DAO adding devs and features, bounties and such. So the overall amount will slowly increase as the platform is improved and marketed to a wider audience.

[VeritasSapere]

I have a more serous question about this project. As far as I understand it the only real innovation is the community DAO, which by itself is not really that innovative at all, there are other projects that have already done this.

However as far as I understand it, this is being presented as an alternative to Ethereum. I do not see what is wrong with Ethereum however since its launch was fair. Ethereum still requires a lot of development work, and I do not see how this project will be able to overtake the network effect and development that Ethereum has. I am even wondering if Expanse will be able to keep up with updating when Ethereum is updated and changed.

Furthermore I do not think that the governance of Ethereum is necessarily flawed. If you really wanted to tackle that problem there should have been a allotment in the block reward that allocates a certain percentage to Expanse funding which would then have to be voted upon by some process. Dash and Bitshares are both examples of such a process. Having a singular pre-mine like this which is supposedly decided upon by the community, with such a small group of founders, and small community I do not necessarily see that working out well.

I do not see any type of great innovation or need that this project is filling, besides maybe peoples greed wanting to jump onto the "next Ethereum" as Ethereum is currently going parabolic.

So yes I am here critiquing this cryptocurrency. Please correct me if I am wrong with a convincing argument and I might even invest myself.

[ElitistCA]

I think its a good thing for clone coin to be cheaper, like having the same power for less money, that is strongest fundamental motivation to choose clone.

[wasref]

franko coin and expanse will be in crypto hall of fame. defaced is gonna be among legends

[ImI]

I have a more serous question about this project. As far as I understand it the only real innovation is the community DAO, which by itself is not really that innovative at all, there are other projects that have already done this.

However as far as I understand it, this is being presented as an alternative to Ethereum. I do not see what is wrong with Ethereum however since its launch was fair. Ethereum still requires a lot of development work, and I do not see how this project will be able to overtake the network effect and development that Ethereum has. I am even wondering if Expanse will be able to keep up with updating when Ethereum is updated and changed.

Furthermore I do not think that the governance of Ethereum is necessarily flawed. If you really wanted to tackle that problem there should have been a allotment in the block reward that allocates a certain percentage to Expanse funding which would then have to be voted upon by some process. Dash and Bitshares are both examples of such a process. Having a singular pre-mine like this which is supposedly decided upon by the community, with such a small group of founders, and small community I do not necessarily see that working out well.

I do not see any type of great innovation or need that this project is filling, besides maybe peoples greed wanting to jump onto the "next Ethereum" as Ethereum is currently going parabolic.

So yes I am here critiquing this cryptocurrency. Please correct me if I am wrong with a convincing argument and I might even invest myself.

the answer is: price.

what do you think should a well managed clone of eth be worth? i say that 1% of the marketcap of eth should be absolutely fine. agree? now go and make a little math and you know why to buy.

[CryptoClub]

I have a more serous question about this project. As far as I understand it the only real innovation is the community DAO, which by itself is not really that innovative at all, there are other projects that have already done this.

However as far as I understand it, this is being presented as an alternative to Ethereum. I do not see what is wrong with Ethereum however since its launch was fair. Ethereum still requires a lot of development work, and I do not see how this project will be able to overtake the network effect and development that Ethereum has. I am even wondering if Expanse will be able to keep up with updating when Ethereum is updated and changed.

Furthermore I do not think that the governance of Ethereum is necessarily flawed. If you really wanted to tackle that problem there should have been a allotment in the block reward that allocates a certain percentage to Expanse funding which would then have to be voted upon by some process. Dash and Bitshares are both examples of such a process. Having a singular pre-mine like this which is supposedly decided upon by the community, with such a small group of founders, and small community I do not necessarily see that working out well.

I do not see any type of great innovation or need that this project is filling, besides maybe peoples greed wanting to jump onto the "next Ethereum" as Ethereum is currently going parabolic.

So yes I am here critiquing this cryptocurrency. Please correct me if I am wrong with a convincing argument and I might even invest myself.

This will be personal opinion, and just from myself, but I am not a fan of ICOs and I have never liked them. Having an ICO and a premine feels like double dipping to me, taking as much as possible. if you prefer them then we just disagree a bit, but this is a huge difference. I also think mining is a better means of distribution, more fair, since there are more people with video cards than who can afford buying into an ICO. I also think using a reserve to bring in new talent, rather than raising outside money gives the platform and community more freedom and less outside control.

We have over 200 people in slack, I have over 5000 in the crypto club, and we have around 30k followers on social media total (the team). That is still small of course, but very focused on cryptos, so we do have a small group of loyal people. We also have connections to marketing people and plenty of plans. Certainly there are risks, but we started with nothing and plan on building something amazing out of it. I don't think anyone should get involved unless they want to, but for anyone that likes ETH, it likely wouldn't hurt to keep an eye on EXP as well.