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February 12, 2016, 07:07:21 AM
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I can't believe i sold all my EXP months ago....gotta start holding longer  Tongue

Well that's life, you'll never know which coin will be the next big thing.

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February 12, 2016, 07:20:46 AM
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Great thanks for complete dev crew for making this coin, this coin made me mine from mining it and community in slack channel is excellent.
Buy the way still mining never stoped. Smiley
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February 12, 2016, 08:16:43 AM
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I have a more serous question about this project. As far as I understand it the only real innovation is the community DAO, which by itself is not really that innovative at all, there are other projects that have already done this.

However as far as I understand it, this is being presented as an alternative to Ethereum. I do not see what is wrong with Ethereum however since its launch was fair. Ethereum still requires a lot of development work, and I do not see how this project will be able to overtake the network effect and development that Ethereum has. I am even wondering if Expanse will be able to keep up with updating when Ethereum is updated and changed.

Furthermore I do not think that the governance of Ethereum is necessarily flawed. If you really wanted to tackle that problem there should have been a allotment in the block reward that allocates a certain percentage to Expanse funding which would then have to be voted upon by some process. Dash and Bitshares are both examples of such a process. Having a singular pre-mine like this which is supposedly decided upon by the community, with such a small group of founders, and small community I do not necessarily see that working out well.

I do not see any type of great innovation or need that this project is filling, besides maybe peoples greed wanting to jump onto the "next Ethereum" as Ethereum is currently going parabolic.

So yes I am here critiquing this cryptocurrency. Please correct me if I am wrong with a convincing argument and I might even invest myself. Wink

This coin was launched without ICO, that is mainly because it is a clone of Ethereum. Most of the development was done by Ethereum with ICO money.

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February 12, 2016, 08:37:09 AM
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Hello. If I understand correctly, the feature that distinguishes
this from Ethereum is that a premine is being controlled by
a "Ternary Division DAO". Where can I read the source code
of the said DApp?

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February 12, 2016, 11:06:08 AM
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Hello. If I understand correctly, the feature that distinguishes
this from Ethereum is that a premine is being controlled by
a "Ternary Division DAO". Where can I read the source code
of the said DApp?

The white paper is related to plans and not stating what is already completed, the DAO is one element that is different but is in process. Once completed everything will be available for it.

The roadmap shows what is completed and what is coming up next. So I think that is what you are looking for.

http://www.expanse.tech/docs/roadmap.pdf

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Hello. If I understand correctly, the feature that distinguishes
this from Ethereum is that a premine is being controlled by
a "Ternary Division DAO". Where can I read the source code
of the said DApp?

The white paper is related to plans and not stating what is already completed, the DAO is one element that is different but is in process. Once completed everything will be available for it.

The roadmap shows what is completed and what is coming up next. So I think that is what you are looking for.

http://www.expanse.tech/docs/roadmap.pdf

Thank you.

So it looks like a proof-of-concept implementation is due shortly, so I
will be on lookout for that.

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February 12, 2016, 12:58:51 PM
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I have a more serous question about this project. As far as I understand it the only real innovation is the community DAO, which by itself is not really that innovative at all, there are other projects that have already done this.

However as far as I understand it, this is being presented as an alternative to Ethereum. I do not see what is wrong with Ethereum however since its launch was fair. Ethereum still requires a lot of development work, and I do not see how this project will be able to overtake the network effect and development that Ethereum has. I am even wondering if Expanse will be able to keep up with updating when Ethereum is updated and changed.

Furthermore I do not think that the governance of Ethereum is necessarily flawed. If you really wanted to tackle that problem there should have been a allotment in the block reward that allocates a certain percentage to Expanse funding which would then have to be voted upon by some process. Dash and Bitshares are both examples of such a process. Having a singular pre-mine like this which is supposedly decided upon by the community, with such a small group of founders, and small community I do not necessarily see that working out well.

I do not see any type of great innovation or need that this project is filling, besides maybe peoples greed wanting to jump onto the "next Ethereum" as Ethereum is currently going parabolic.

So yes I am here critiquing this cryptocurrency. Please correct me if I am wrong with a convincing argument and I might even invest myself. Wink

the answer is: price.

what do you think should a well managed clone of eth be worth? i say that 1% of the marketcap of eth should be absolutely fine. agree? now go and make a little math and you know why to buy.
According to that logic then what is stopping more clones from being created? With that thought the price of such a clone would be determined by what other clones are on the market and how this project can compete with them. Nothing is a sure thing, thinking that Expanse should have such a market cap is not necessarily based on reality and might not come to pass.
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February 12, 2016, 01:10:07 PM
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Hello. If I understand correctly, the feature that distinguishes
this from Ethereum is that a premine is being controlled by
a "Ternary Division DAO". Where can I read the source code
of the said DApp?
So the main feature that sets expanse apart is not finished yet? Without a proper DAO in place are these funds now held by the developers based on trust? Please correct me if I am wrong here since this does not sound good.

This is also a good point:
This coin was launched without ICO, that is mainly because it is a clone of Ethereum. Most of the development was done by Ethereum with ICO money.
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But you fucked. DUMP will not stop. Maple ETH from the beginning was doomed to failure.

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February 12, 2016, 04:56:27 PM
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I'm going to follow EXP I have noticed it making waves recently.

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February 12, 2016, 05:02:25 PM
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What is up with the crazy price manipulation? When 24 hr volume is several times the size of the marketcap, well... that just isn't natural.

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February 12, 2016, 06:11:34 PM
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I have a more serous question about this project. As far as I understand it the only real innovation is the community DAO, which by itself is not really that innovative at all, there are other projects that have already done this.

However as far as I understand it, this is being presented as an alternative to Ethereum. I do not see what is wrong with Ethereum however since its launch was fair. Ethereum still requires a lot of development work, and I do not see how this project will be able to overtake the network effect and development that Ethereum has. I am even wondering if Expanse will be able to keep up with updating when Ethereum is updated and changed.

Furthermore I do not think that the governance of Ethereum is necessarily flawed. If you really wanted to tackle that problem there should have been a allotment in the block reward that allocates a certain percentage to Expanse funding which would then have to be voted upon by some process. Dash and Bitshares are both examples of such a process. Having a singular pre-mine like this which is supposedly decided upon by the community, with such a small group of founders, and small community I do not necessarily see that working out well.

I do not see any type of great innovation or need that this project is filling, besides maybe peoples greed wanting to jump onto the "next Ethereum" as Ethereum is currently going parabolic.

So yes I am here critiquing this cryptocurrency. Please correct me if I am wrong with a convincing argument and I might even invest myself. Wink

Bitshares wasn't pre-mined. It was 50% POW mining with PTS token and 50% BTC daily auction over 60 days con-currently.

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February 12, 2016, 06:39:20 PM
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this coin has a market cap of one million, it seems crazy that anyone is dumping coins at this price. Maybe it has a shot if people stop dumping and start just buying and holding.


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February 12, 2016, 07:26:26 PM
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guys, i'm having trouble with sending exp

Exceeds block gas limit
    at InvalidResponse (<anonymous>:-81925:-163)
    at send (<anonymous>:-156501:-163)
    at sendTransaction (<anonymous>:-133534:-163)
    at <anonymous>:1:1

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what am i doing wrong?

thx
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February 12, 2016, 07:28:00 PM
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guys, i'm having trouble with sending exp

Exceeds block gas limit
    at InvalidResponse (<anonymous>:-81925:-163)
    at send (<anonymous>:-156501:-163)
    at sendTransaction (<anonymous>:-133534:-163)
    at <anonymous>:1:1

?

what am i doing wrong?

thx

Are you sending with the default gas amount specified in the walker?

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February 12, 2016, 07:52:16 PM
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What gas we must put??
At wallet??
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February 12, 2016, 08:06:50 PM
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guys, i'm having trouble with sending exp

Exceeds block gas limit
    at InvalidResponse (<anonymous>:-81925:-163)
    at send (<anonymous>:-156501:-163)
    at sendTransaction (<anonymous>:-133534:-163)
    at <anonymous>:1:1

?

what am i doing wrong?

thx

Are you sending with the default gas amount specified in the walker?

i've tried different values, its or exceeded or intrinsic gas to low

none works
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February 12, 2016, 08:36:37 PM
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happy to have found this coin! always good to see progress.

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February 12, 2016, 09:00:37 PM
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It is a very exciting time lately, and I think Expanse is a great opportunity.

Of course with increased volume and attention, some will also try to FUD the project, perhaps with legitimate concerns in their mind, perhaps because they have other interests or own something else. Just keep in mind we have been working on this for many months, and in time all concerns will be addressed, but it does take time to deliver. It is really quite simple. If you want to get in early, then you have the opportunity when you think the timing is right, if you are worried about anything at all, then just keep an eye on Expanse and see what is delivered over time.

I would also like to thank the community and supporters, and the team will be working hard on improvements and building this into something remarkable.

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February 13, 2016, 01:45:01 AM
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I made a new expanse pool.

http://pooleum.com/


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