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February 14, 2016, 01:19:00 AM
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Scam bust is wrong in this case. While the Jumbucks crew is probably involved with many scams, EXP is not one of their scams.

JUmbucks only interviewed this coin.


no.
this coin has guys who failed many projects now they made this.
after hype nobody cared of this so they oubht out and now busted price up between themselves and trying to lurk newbies

really not cool

Nonsense. I was involved in one other project for over a year and it is still active and traded, still on Poloniex and elsewhere. Franko had a couple over many long years, and his Franko coin is still updated and working fine. People are still trading it. Dan was not in any other crypto projects, this is his first, and he is a skilled coder. Nothing I have worked on has failed, ever, not my business, not my social media crypto club, nor any project.

If "nobody cared of this," why are 240+ people signed up in slack? Why such volume and interest? Why do trolls constantly bump this thread with misinformation over and over? Why do scammers make fake accounts and fake conversations to try and harm the project on Reddit Eth forums? You don't care, correct? Actions speak louder than words, if you didn't care you wouldn't be posting.

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February 14, 2016, 01:22:13 AM
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Scam bust is wrong in this case. While the Jumbucks crew is probably involved with many scams, EXP is not one of their scams.

JUmbucks only interviewed this coin.


no.
this coin has guys who failed many projects now they made this.
after hype nobody cared of this so they oubht out and now busted price up between themselves and trying to lurk newbies

really not cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA7G7AV-LT8

Let this video sink in a little bit. If you are afraid to fail, you'll never succeed.

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February 14, 2016, 01:22:44 AM
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This is a DAO. Once you understand the concept it's amazing. In the end it will not matter who started the DAO. All that will matter is if people use it.




Exactly, ideally this evolves past trivial things like who started it. Great that you can understand the potential. All are welcome to be a part.

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February 14, 2016, 01:26:03 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLYECIjmnQs

If you have never failed, you have never tried anything new.

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February 14, 2016, 04:00:27 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLYECIjmnQs

If you have never failed, you have never tried anything new.

Agreed. Keep up the good work Smiley

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February 14, 2016, 07:15:55 AM
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Ugh.  Guys, I spent way too much time reading your stuff, fancy presentation, and everything else. 
 
I almost got excited, and then I finally figured out there was essentially a 10% premine.  Come on, why do people insist on doing this!?  Yes, I know you are vowing to use it for development costs.  It still doesn't excuse it.

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February 14, 2016, 08:38:16 AM
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If you don't like you don't buy it, but EXP is real deal.

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February 14, 2016, 08:40:45 AM
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Ugh.  Guys, I spent way too much time reading your stuff, fancy presentation, and everything else. 
 
I almost got excited, and then I finally figured out there was essentially a 10% premine.  Come on, why do people insist on doing this!?  Yes, I know you are vowing to use it for development costs.  It still doesn't excuse it.

Well you know the good thing about the DAO concept, I would think if you don't like it you could vote to burn it in theory if you get enough consensus.

Also I'll ask the reverse question, is there any excuse for devs working for free to make others rich either?
I personally wouldn't have done EXP's branding if I didn't get paid from the bounty. I don't mind premines, most crypto projects fail because devs have no incentive to keep working on a project if there is no financial reward involved. I don't work for free, so why should others?
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February 14, 2016, 08:45:13 AM
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I have a mining question I'm  running windows 10 pro with ethminer-opencl-0.9.41 .I can only get it to mine with one card installed i don't know if it's the cards or my bat.file that's keeping it from mining with both cards installed  my main card is AMD 7990 with 6 gigs of memory on the card  and the other card is a AMD 7700 with 2 gigs of memory on the card .Could it be the differences  in the cards or my bat.file  which is   " ethminer -G -F http://exp.suprnova.cc:3000/Daveeoff.5/50 "

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February 14, 2016, 08:45:23 AM
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Ugh.  Guys, I spent way too much time reading your stuff, fancy presentation, and everything else.  
  
I almost got excited, and then I finally figured out there was essentially a 10% premine.  Come on, why do people insist on doing this!?  Yes, I know you are vowing to use it for development costs.  It still doesn't excuse it.

You might not understand that without funding the design for the DAO here cannot work. This can work with much less than Ethererum, but not with nothing. If you are interested you can check out the white paper: Now, I also think some percentage from mining could have been an option, but this project has been around for many months now and has been progressing fine, with no issues from the funding hurting the market. Of the reserve only 200k has been used to pay for bounties and development. (250k was used for another Eth fork, and they did much less so far)

Smart contacts and time locks will ensure slow inflation and distribution over time. (in the simplest terms only 1% could be used per month, leaving *some* funding essentially forever, but also keeping inflation slow without needing an ICO)

http://www.expanse.tech/docs/whitepaper-draft.pdf

http://www.expanse.tech/docs/roadmap.pdf

http://blog.expanse.tech

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February 14, 2016, 08:50:57 AM
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I have a mining question I'm  running windows 10 pro with ethminer-opencl-0.9.41 .I can only get it to mine with one card installed i don't know if it's the cards or my bat.file that's keeping it from mining with both cards installed  my main card is AMD 7990 with 6 gigs of memory on the card  and the other card is a AMD 7700 with 2 gigs of memory on the card .Could it be the differences  in the cards or my bat.file  which is   " ethminer -G -F http://exp.suprnova.cc:3000/Daveeoff.5/50 "

Your bat file looks correct, I would guess a difference in the cards. You might have to run a couple instances of it. Although someone else might be able to give you specifics on that. (have not run into this issue)

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February 14, 2016, 08:58:48 AM
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Ugh.  Guys, I spent way too much time reading your stuff, fancy presentation, and everything else.  
  
I almost got excited, and then I finally figured out there was essentially a 10% premine.  Come on, why do people insist on doing this!?  Yes, I know you are vowing to use it for development costs.  It still doesn't excuse it.

Well you know the good thing about the DAO concept, I would think if you don't like it you could vote to burn it in theory if you get enough consensus.

Also I'll ask the reverse question, is there any excuse for devs working for free to make others rich either?
I personally wouldn't have done EXP's branding if I didn't get paid from the bounty. I don't mind premines, most crypto projects fail because devs have no incentive to keep working on a project if there is no financial reward involved. I don't work for free, so why should others?

Well said. We are very experienced in cryptos and know exactly how all this stuff works. Devs all demand payment. For a block explorer Ethercamp wanted 50 thousand dollars, USD, seriously. (We have one, but checked into other options to see about time saving in the past) Videos cost money, press releases cost money. Getting on some foreign exchanges could also cost money. Some stuff Franko has paid out of pocket personally even. Although we are very good at keeping costs down and maximizing value. Speaking of that, for people looking to get paid and that have solid talent, check out Expanse, there could be something for you. We use the reserve to bring more talent in, making it better for everyone, miners, traders, all of us.

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February 14, 2016, 11:15:46 AM
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is needed is speed to send exp Wink Wink

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February 14, 2016, 02:21:45 PM
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February 14, 2016, 02:33:32 PM
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Thanks for the new pool, ive got you added to the OP now. I'll also get you and the other new pools added to the website soon too.

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February 14, 2016, 04:09:43 PM
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We need

New web wallet
And new more stable
Windows wallet

I think price will be rise as etherium is up
And exp is up

Like btc with litecoin
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February 14, 2016, 04:43:13 PM
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We need

New web wallet
And new more stable
Windows wallet

I think price will be rise as etherium is up
And exp is up

Like btc with litecoin

All on the Roadmap. Dan will be working on getting that stuff done ASAP. Smiley

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February 14, 2016, 07:41:24 PM
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A live broadcast with the Expanse dev, will occur in 30 minutes on rickstonerlive.com cryptoafterdark.com and... of course vergecurrency.com/radio
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February 14, 2016, 08:12:04 PM
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I have a more serous question about this project. As far as I understand it the only real innovation is the community DAO, which by itself is not really that innovative at all, there are other projects that have already done this.

However as far as I understand it, this is being presented as an alternative to Ethereum. I do not see what is wrong with Ethereum however since its launch was fair. Ethereum still requires a lot of development work, and I do not see how this project will be able to overtake the network effect and development that Ethereum has. I am even wondering if Expanse will be able to keep up with updating when Ethereum is updated and changed.

Furthermore I do not think that the governance of Ethereum is necessarily flawed. If you really wanted to tackle that problem there should have been a allotment in the block reward that allocates a certain percentage to Expanse funding which would then have to be voted upon by some process. Dash and Bitshares are both examples of such a process. Having a singular pre-mine like this which is supposedly decided upon by the community, with such a small group of founders, and small community I do not necessarily see that working out well.

I do not see any type of great innovation or need that this project is filling, besides maybe peoples greed wanting to jump onto the "next Ethereum" as Ethereum is currently going parabolic.

So yes I am here critiquing this cryptocurrency. Please correct me if I am wrong with a convincing argument and I might even invest myself. Wink

This will be personal opinion, and just from myself, but I am not a fan of ICOs and I have never liked them. Having an ICO and a premine feels like double dipping to me, taking as much as possible. if you prefer them then we just disagree a bit, but this is a huge difference. I also think mining is a better means of distribution, more fair, since there are more people with video cards than who can afford buying into an ICO. I also think using a reserve to bring in new talent, rather than raising outside money gives the platform and community more freedom and less outside control.

We have over 200 people in slack, I have over 5000 in the crypto club, and we have around 30k followers on social media total (the team). That is still small of course, but very focused on cryptos, so we do have a small group of loyal people. We also have connections to marketing people and plenty of plans. Certainly there are risks, but we started with nothing and plan on building something amazing out of it. I don't think anyone should get involved unless they want to, but for anyone that likes ETH, it likely wouldn't hurt to keep an eye on EXP as well.

Well said. I think that we should give EXP more time to grow in development as it will surely prove as a better alternative to ETH someday. It is just about time and patience to achieve great results. Being a clone of ETH and considering its price, makes it great choice with all the same features (and maybe even more) as it. It is like paying less for using the same features. In this case it is Expanse and I hope it could come up with new and exciting things as days go by.

Prices have started to decline for EXP, but still makes it a great investment for the next pump. Enjoy the ride!  Grin

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February 14, 2016, 09:28:12 PM
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Ugh.  Guys, I spent way too much time reading your stuff, fancy presentation, and everything else.  
  
I almost got excited, and then I finally figured out there was essentially a 10% premine.  Come on, why do people insist on doing this!?  Yes, I know you are vowing to use it for development costs.  It still doesn't excuse it.

You might not understand that without funding the design for the DAO here cannot work. This can work with much less than Ethererum, but not with nothing. If you are interested you can check out the white paper: Now, I also think some percentage from mining could have been an option, but this project has been around for many months now and has been progressing fine, with no issues from the funding hurting the market. Of the reserve only 200k has been used to pay for bounties and development. (250k was used for another Eth fork, and they did much less so far)

Smart contacts and time locks will ensure slow inflation and distribution over time. (in the simplest terms only 1% could be used per month, leaving *some* funding essentially forever, but also keeping inflation slow without needing an ICO)

http://www.expanse.tech/docs/whitepaper-draft.pdf

http://www.expanse.tech/docs/roadmap.pdf

http://blog.expanse.tech

Since you mention SHIFT and the 250K premine, people should know which pumpers and dumpers who are behind EXP. I know, because i have talked with several people who are in HZ team, both former and present members. So stop with the bullshit. You all know this, you all know about the pump. The same as happened with HZ a while ago. The same people were behind this pump in EXP. I can give the people in here much more information about this, but you do not want to go there.

The 250K was used up because of the valuation.. 200K in your funds are MUCH more than it was in SHIFT. So make your numbers straight.

Second, what have you done that is "much more" in terms of development? I see nothing, except a homepage, block explorer and your non existing dapp that will act as a DAO...

A dapp is nothing new you know. Its ethereum at its core. Bragging about that in your whitepaper is just retarded. SHIFT had the first gui wallet with the first sql backend.. what have you done?
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