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June 29, 2022, 01:07:30 AM
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Serena just started her match and i hope she is just rusty. At the moment her level of play is not enough to win even a couple of games against opponent like Harmony Tan. If she does not have a higher gear anymore this will be one sad final match.

it is quite possible that she only needs to put some games behind her to get the feel back. Too bad I can't watch this one live, seems like there will be some great opportunities for live betting.

And well, Serena lost the match against Harmony Tan, 7-5, 1-6, 7-6 (10-7). I thought at least she will not exit this early, but I guess he is rusty and doesn't have the body to compete anymore.

She has a good change in the 3rd though as she broke Tan for a 5-4 lead, but then again, Harmony comes back to tie the score at 5-5. And then she lead 4-0 in the tie break, but Tan has some still in her bag with those winners.

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June 29, 2022, 05:41:25 AM
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Serena just started her match and i hope she is just rusty. At the moment her level of play is not enough to win even a couple of games against opponent like Harmony Tan. If she does not have a higher gear anymore this will be one sad final match.

it is quite possible that she only needs to put some games behind her to get the feel back. Too bad I can't watch this one live, seems like there will be some great opportunities for live betting.

And well, Serena lost the match against Harmony Tan, 7-5, 1-6, 7-6 (10-7). I thought at least she will not exit this early, but I guess he is rusty and doesn't have the body to compete anymore.

She has a good change in the 3rd though as she broke Tan for a 5-4 lead, but then again, Harmony comes back to tie the score at 5-5. And then she lead 4-0 in the tie break, but Tan has some still in her bag with those winners.

Yea I watched the second and third sets only because herself was watching. I had
a +5.5 on Tan from earlier yesterday and didnt have anything in my wallet to bet
live. IDK but Serena's "comebacks" have been way over hyped for the last few years
IMO. There is no chance she can win another GS, there are far too many capable challengers
now.

Tan did really well, what got her the win was her mental ability to stay in the game and
believe in herself. Serena though still had some brilliant winners, she can still hit them
from anywhere on the court. IDK I think Serena looked far too emotional in the last set, she
wasnt able to conceal it really but she wasnt happy that it was taking so long and the fact
that it was so close and her dream was hanging in the balance at various stages towards the end.

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June 29, 2022, 07:37:24 AM
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Frankly, it is quite sad that the majority of the names that can make difficulties for Djokovic in the Wimbledon can't go on in the tournament anymore. Even though Rafael Nadal won yesterday, he started to perform badly after the middle of the 3rd set. However he still managed to recover. I hope that he doesn't experience this kind of performance drops a lot. If Nadal also says goodbye to the tournament in some way the quality of the tournament would decrease on a large scale compared to the previous years.

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June 29, 2022, 08:09:44 AM
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Serena just started her match and i hope she is just rusty. At the moment her level of play is not enough to win even a couple of games against opponent like Harmony Tan. If she does not have a higher gear anymore this will be one sad final match.

it is quite possible that she only needs to put some games behind her to get the feel back. Too bad I can't watch this one live, seems like there will be some great opportunities for live betting.

And well, Serena lost the match against Harmony Tan, 7-5, 1-6, 7-6 (10-7). I thought at least she will not exit this early, but I guess he is rusty and doesn't have the body to compete anymore.

She has a good change in the 3rd though as she broke Tan for a 5-4 lead, but then again, Harmony comes back to tie the score at 5-5. And then she lead 4-0 in the tie break, but Tan has some still in her bag with those winners.

So it ends up being a sad final match and it seems a shame that she did win the second set by a superior margin (or,,, maybe Tan was just conserving her strength). BBC was all over this coverage on the global page and when she lost the page immediately went out of the front  Grin

At the end of the day this was a match between a 24 year old ranked below 90 and a 40 year old ranked below 400,,, I respect her a lot but she has to retire now I think or risk worsening her endline reputation.

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June 29, 2022, 08:11:31 AM
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I think Serena looked far too emotional in the last set, she
wasnt able to conceal it really but she wasnt happy that it was taking so long and the fact
that it was so close and her dream was hanging in the balance at various stages towards the end.

I saw the latter stages of the match, and yes, she was getting quite emotional. I wonder if she was thinking 'This is my last Wimbledon'. If she was just a bit rusty at the start of her comeback, and thinking she could return to Wimbledon for the next couple of years, and fight for titles, then she wouldn't have that sort of reaction. I think maybe it was quite revealing, and she knows it's time to retire. I'm wondering if she will make an announcement after the US Open later this year.






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June 29, 2022, 08:41:49 AM
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Serena just started her match and i hope she is just rusty. At the moment her level of play is not enough to win even a couple of games against opponent like Harmony Tan. If she does not have a higher gear anymore this will be one sad final match.

it is quite possible that she only needs to put some games behind her to get the feel back. Too bad I can't watch this one live, seems like there will be some great opportunities for live betting.

And well, Serena lost the match against Harmony Tan, 7-5, 1-6, 7-6 (10-7). I thought at least she will not exit this early, but I guess he is rusty and doesn't have the body to compete anymore.

She has a good change in the 3rd though as she broke Tan for a 5-4 lead, but then again, Harmony comes back to tie the score at 5-5. And then she lead 4-0 in the tie break, but Tan has some still in her bag with those winners.

Yea I watched the second and third sets only because herself was watching. I had
a +5.5 on Tan from earlier yesterday and didnt have anything in my wallet to bet
live. IDK but Serena's "comebacks" have been way over hyped for the last few years
IMO. There is no chance she can win another GS, there are far too many capable challengers
now.

Tan did really well, what got her the win was her mental ability to stay in the game and
believe in herself. Serena though still had some brilliant winners, she can still hit them
from anywhere on the court. IDK I think Serena looked far too emotional in the last set, she
wasnt able to conceal it really but she wasnt happy that it was taking so long and the fact
that it was so close and her dream was hanging in the balance at various stages towards the end.

I was of those who thinks that Serena could have one good win. Just one win to gain her confidence back in Wimbledon. And the thing that got here is in mental ability, but her body seems to be not cooperating.

Serena though seems to be emotional in close fight, maybe that's one way of here trying to overcome her fear of losing.

And then we have this one,  Kyrgios defends spitting at fan during first-round win as officials ponder fines.
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June 29, 2022, 10:19:14 AM
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I saw the latter stages of the match, and yes, she was getting quite emotional. I wonder if she was thinking 'This is my last Wimbledon'. If she was just a bit rusty at the start of her comeback, and thinking she could return to Wimbledon for the next couple of years, and fight for titles, then she wouldn't have that sort of reaction. I think maybe it was quite revealing, and she knows it's time to retire. I'm wondering if she will make an announcement after the US Open later this year.

Personally, I wouldn't have comeback in the first place and I think you are right, it is time to retire and her perfect farewell would be in her home country during the US Open. She has not nothing to prove anymore and the chances that she wins another grandslam are very slim also.



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June 29, 2022, 10:37:45 AM
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I have been following the German player Otte lately. This year he is in his best form and he won clearly in 3 sets against Peter Gojowczy in the first round at Wimbledon. That was also the first time his year. he did not need a tiebreak on grass.
Today he is playing against Christian Harrison. He certainly has a lot of self-confidence because he also won in 3 sets in the first round.
But Otte should win the match today.
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there is a few interesting pairs today, Peniston @1.65 is a good value, but there are few others that I am looking at

Isner @3, or at least handicap on him, would not be an easy task for Murray to break many Isner serves, and Kokkinakis handicap as well (although this could be a booger, if he breaks down during the match, maybe taking one set has better chances to pass)

Alcaraz did not show much in first round, but @1.35 is great value today
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June 29, 2022, 10:59:03 AM
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I have been following the German player Otte lately. This year he is in his best form and he won clearly in 3 sets against Peter Gojowczy in the first round at Wimbledon. That was also the first time his year. he did not need a tiebreak on grass.
Today he is playing against Christian Harrison. He certainly has a lot of self-confidence because he also won in 3 sets in the first round.
But Otte should win the match today.
Otte has been good on grass this season and I believe he will win quite easy today. Maybe even in straight sets. I have set handicap 1.5 on him. Meaning he can loose one set for my bet to hit.

I alos took handicap on Kokkinakis against Djoko, 10.5 is a lot on grass against good server. Should be quite safe bet.

Edit: also like Peniston and Goffin but I would stay clear of Alcaraz, he is not a grass player.

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June 29, 2022, 01:41:39 PM
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Frankly, it is quite sad that the majority of the names that can make difficulties for Djokovic in the Wimbledon can't go on in the tournament anymore. Even though Rafael Nadal won yesterday, he started to perform badly after the middle of the 3rd set. However he still managed to recover. I hope that he doesn't experience this kind of performance drops a lot. If Nadal also says goodbye to the tournament in some way the quality of the tournament would decrease on a large scale compared to the previous years.

Do you think that if Nadal loses at some point in this tournament, Djokovic will be the clear favorite to win this year title also ?

I am currently watching the match between Djokovic  and Kokkinakis. Djokovic  is showing his class in the match and have won the set easily 6-1 and also looking strong in the second set 4-2.
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That was a fast round from Otte. He played very confidently and concentrated and quickly led 3:1. But after only 15 minutes the match was over because Harrison had to give up. It is not known why and there was no injury. So Otte is already in round 3 and will play against Griekspoor or Alcaraz.
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Do you think that if Nadal loses at some point in this tournament, Djokovic will be the clear favorite to win this year title also ?


Novak Djokovic have won the title in 2018,2019 and 2021. There was no competition in 2020 due to covid 19 pandemic. So seeing this history Djokovic would be looking to win the consecutive four titles.
Nothing can be said with 100% certainty but if you are betting for the 2022 title, go for Novak Djokovic  Smiley

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June 29, 2022, 03:22:31 PM
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-snip

Edit: also like Peniston and Goffin but I would stay clear of Alcaraz, he is not a grass player.

Peniston is out, and Djokovic finished at 11+, not so good, especially with Norrie down in third set

nevertheless, Serbian derby set in third round Djokovic vs Kecmanovic, could bring a little more fire, although Djokovic was the one today, no doubt this is a championship form, nothing close to first round
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June 29, 2022, 03:27:03 PM
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Isner @3, or at least handicap on him, would not be an easy task for Murray to break many Isner serves

Murray has perhaps the best record of anyone against Isner, he's 8-0.
I know Murray now is not quite the Murray of his peak years, but he's still one of the great returners in the game, and I think he'll win. Murray's main issue is maintaining fitness, and an Isner match isn't too much of an issue as half of it is invariably spent standing around. It's not like it's going to be a succession of long, draining rallies.






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Norrie had some really unexpected difficulties with Munar today - I expected that one to end really fast and in straight sets.
Ultimately he wasn't in any real danger because he won the last 2 sets quite easily - but I'm sure he expected it to be a quicker match.

Tomorrow we have Krajinović vs Kyrgios, that one should be interesting.

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Van Rijthoven has won again. It was no coincidence that he won Rosmalen 2 weeks ago. Striking fact is that the bookmakers put him at 50-50 today against the experienced American Opelka, still in the best 15 in the world. They have a high impression of him. He should also be able to get through the next round. Could this be a new world topper perhaps? I also saw that Casper Ruud was eliminated, the number 6 in the world.

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I am a bit puzzled about Basilashvili. He had some difficulties against Quentin Halys. Especially the second set, did he had a blackout? 6:0. Within 20 minutes everything was open again. But then he still managed it very close. Unfortunately I could not read a summary of the match.
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June 30, 2022, 06:29:45 AM
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Norrie had some really unexpected difficulties with Munar today - I expected that one to end really fast and in straight sets.
Ultimately he wasn't in any real danger because he won the last 2 sets quite easily - but I'm sure he expected it to be a quicker match.

Tomorrow we have Krajinović vs Kyrgios, that one should be interesting.
Was just checking markets for today and I am quite disappointed. Not one match that really interests me. This one you mentioned could be good, but I am afraid to bet on it. Both players had way too much problems in first match when you account for their opponents lack of quality.

Nothing interesting on women's side as well. Swiatek @1.01 is unplayable, maybe only some handicap on Kvitova.

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June 30, 2022, 08:07:10 AM
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Norrie had some really unexpected difficulties with Munar today - I expected that one to end really fast and in straight sets.
Ultimately he wasn't in any real danger because he won the last 2 sets quite easily - but I'm sure he expected it to be a quicker match.

Tomorrow we have Krajinović vs Kyrgios, that one should be interesting.
Was just checking markets for today and I am quite disappointed. Not one match that really interests me. This one you mentioned could be good, but I am afraid to bet on it. Both players had way too much problems in first match when you account for their opponents lack of quality.

Nothing interesting on women's side as well. Swiatek @1.01 is unplayable, maybe only some handicap on Kvitova.

True. There are not many interesting matches today. But there is one that I find interesting. Filip Krajinović - Nick Kyrgios. If Kyrgios does not complain as much as he did in his first round, he can go very far in this tournament. He plays very well on grass and he should win this match.
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