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[herurist]

It's a shame that Nadal cannot continue, he was my favorite to lift the trophy. If he'd won here, he would have needed only the US open for the Grand Slam and with his age - that would have been such an achievement.

That's true, but there really wasn't anything that could be done about this. The stomach injury he had was obviously quite severe and if he forced it on it would be very dangerous for him.
But indeed with this he had to give up the grand slam again and become the best tennis player of all time.
Now it's clear Kyrgios has the advantage and he's become the first Australian to reach the men's singles final at the All England Club but I really don't like his behaviour.

[babygun]

After the game is over it is natural that everything is obvious. If there would be a directly opposite result, then everything would be no less obvious, because the result is a consequence of the process that we see. I recently won a bet on Djokovic at odds of 1.8, but I understand that it was a risky bet and I could well lose, but this bet was close to 2, so I consider such bets as adequate. The chance of 1.3 is unacceptably low in my opinion.

I agree with you, but there a lot of people who like betting on odds of 1.2 or 1.3 as they think it is a "sure bet". Need to check the odds for the final but if the odds are OK, I will probably place a bet on Kyrgios to win (or like Kyrgrios +1.5 or +2.5 sets).

[Vaskiy]

After the game is over it is natural that everything is obvious. If there would be a directly opposite result, then everything would be no less obvious, because the result is a consequence of the process that we see. I recently won a bet on Djokovic at odds of 1.8, but I understand that it was a risky bet and I could well lose, but this bet was close to 2, so I consider such bets as adequate. The chance of 1.3 is unacceptably low in my opinion.

I agree with you, but there a lot of people who like betting on odds of 1.2 or 1.3 as they think it is a "sure bet". Need to check the odds for the final but if the odds are OK, I will probably place a bet on Kyrgios to win (or like Kyrgrios +1.5 or +2.5 sets).

There is an understanding that lower odds give assured win. In the previous match of Djokovic I saw th odds reaching high above 2 when Sinner won the first two wins. It is a tough bet, but Djokovic made it. If Nadal have won the match, the final could've been more interesting. I think he gave up, because reaching the final once again he will be in a situation to give the best of his ability. Going for Kyrgios is a good choice to enjoy thrill and support Kyrgios win the match.

[Kemarit]

So another clinic has been put up by Djokovic against Norrie. Losing the first set and then winning the next in spectacular fashion.

Not sure how Nick can stop Djokovic from winning the All England trophy again. If by chance, this will be Djokovic's 21 Grand Slam, still chasing Rafa though, but with this another win, gonna be another close one with Rafa's 22 against his 21.

[JohnBitCo]

So another clinic has been put up by Djokovic against Norrie. Losing the first set and then winning the next in spectacular fashion.

This is now becoming a routine for Djokovic to lose the initial set but then come back strong in the remaining sets. However, this is also a nightmare for the bookmakers as when Djokovic loses initial sets, its obvious they had to increase the odds for him. That's the best time to place a bet on Djokovic 
Norrie, played well in the first set but then never looked the same in the remaining three sets. What could get wrong with him that he lost consecutive three sets after winning the first one?

[Trofo]

Morning tip for you guys, play something agains Pavic/Mektic today. Pavic has fell on his hand during last match and fractured something, he can barely use his right hand. He is left handed so they will play but he can't toss the ball properly or play his usual two handed backhand.

Can't belive odds on Ebden/Purcell are still over 3. Forfeit is legit concern so don't use free bets or insurances on this one.

[btc_angela]

So another clinic has been put up by Djokovic against Norrie. Losing the first set and then winning the next in spectacular fashion.

This is now becoming a routine for Djokovic to lose the initial set but then come back strong in the remaining sets. However, this is also a nightmare for the bookmakers as when Djokovic loses initial sets, its obvious they had to increase the odds for him. That's the best time to place a bet on Djokovic 
Norrie, played well in the first set but then never looked the same in the remaining three sets. What could get wrong with him that he lost consecutive three sets after winning the first one?

And I can remember that we have argument about this one, him deliberately losing the first set and then totally destroying his opponent, not just physical but the way he is going to beat them, the score will show that he didn't give Norrie any chance after that first set win.

I guess it will be Djokovic all the way, unless Kyrgios will have something to offer. But this is best of 5, so he needs to be very consistent in order to try and beat Djokovic, but chances is slim.

[aoluain]

Morning tip for you guys, play something agains Pavic/Mektic today. Pavic has fell on his hand during last match and fractured something, he can barely use his right hand. He is left handed so they will play but he can't toss the ball properly or play his usual two handed backhand.

Can't belive odds on Ebden/Purcell are still over 3. Forfeit is legit concern so don't use free bets or insurances on this one.

Yea I actually watched a bit of the highlights of that mixed doubles match and yea he had a
nasty fall on his hand. Thanks for the reminder Trofo I will certainly do something with it.

So another clinic has been put up by Djokovic against Norrie. Losing the first set and then winning the next in spectacular fashion.

This is now becoming a routine for Djokovic to lose the initial set but then come back strong in the remaining sets. However, this is also a nightmare for the bookmakers as when Djokovic loses initial sets, its obvious they had to increase the odds for him. That's the best time to place a bet on Djokovic 
Norrie, played well in the first set but then never looked the same in the remaining three sets. What could get wrong with him that he lost consecutive three sets after winning the first one?

And I can remember that we have argument about this one, him deliberately losing the first set and then totally destroying his opponent, not just physical but the way he is going to beat them, the score will show that he didn't give Norrie any chance after that first set win.

I guess it will be Djokovic all the way, unless Kyrgios will have something to offer. But this is best of 5, so he needs to be very consistent in order to try and beat Djokovic, but chances is slim.

Yea its been a regular occurrence for Djokovic to do that, today now I am half thinking of
actually betting on Kyrgios in some way, maybe he can beat Djokovic. As I said in a
previous post he needs to step up, grow up and prove his remarkable talent, H2H he
is 2-0 against Djokovic, he needs to get his head in the right place and keep it there
for the duration of the match.

[Daniel91]

So another clinic has been put up by Djokovic against Norrie. Losing the first set and then winning the next in spectacular fashion.

This is now becoming a routine for Djokovic to lose the initial set but then come back strong in the remaining sets. However, this is also a nightmare for the bookmakers as when Djokovic loses initial sets, its obvious they had to increase the odds for him. That's the best time to place a bet on Djokovic 
Norrie, played well in the first set but then never looked the same in the remaining three sets. What could get wrong with him that he lost consecutive three sets after winning the first one?

Yes, interesting question. Perhaps the problem is that Djokovic had a big break after the GS in Paris and needed time to raise the level of his game?
If Djokovic continues this tradition, we can probably expect him to lose the first and maybe the second set in the final, so we can bet on that too 
I think Kyrgios will be the biggest challenge for Djokovic in this tournament and he will have to be careful to keep his concentration during the match because Kyrgios will surely try everything to disrupt his game.

[Jating]

So another clinic has been put up by Djokovic against Norrie. Losing the first set and then winning the next in spectacular fashion.

This is now becoming a routine for Djokovic to lose the initial set but then come back strong in the remaining sets. However, this is also a nightmare for the bookmakers as when Djokovic loses initial sets, its obvious they had to increase the odds for him. That's the best time to place a bet on Djokovic 
Norrie, played well in the first set but then never looked the same in the remaining three sets. What could get wrong with him that he lost consecutive three sets after winning the first one?

Yes, interesting question. Perhaps the problem is that Djokovic had a big break after the GS in Paris and needed time to raise the level of his game?
If Djokovic continues this tradition, we can probably expect him to lose the first and maybe the second set in the final, so we can bet on that too 
I think Kyrgios will be the biggest challenge for Djokovic in this tournament and he will have to be careful to keep his concentration during the match because Kyrgios will surely try everything to disrupt his game.

Yeah, it will be Nick obviously, and the biggest challenge for Nick is... himself. He seems to be relentless though in this tournament and very unforgiving to his opponents and the crowd. Djokovic knows this, and just maybe will not give Nick any first set. Because he knows that Nick maybe has something that might throw his concentration off by his antics to disrupt Djokovic. So to get a 'sure' win, Djokovic be better on a spree as early as the first set.

[Ratash]

So another clinic has been put up by Djokovic against Norrie. Losing the first set and then winning the next in spectacular fashion.

This is now becoming a routine for Djokovic to lose the initial set but then come back strong in the remaining sets. However, this is also a nightmare for the bookmakers as when Djokovic loses initial sets, its obvious they had to increase the odds for him. That's the best time to place a bet on Djokovic 
Norrie, played well in the first set but then never looked the same in the remaining three sets. What could get wrong with him that he lost consecutive three sets after winning the first one?

And I can remember that we have argument about this one, him deliberately losing the first set and then totally destroying his opponent, not just physical but the way he is going to beat them, the score will show that he didn't give Norrie any chance after that first set win.

I guess it will be Djokovic all the way, unless Kyrgios will have something to offer. But this is best of 5, so he needs to be very consistent in order to try and beat Djokovic, but chances is slim.

Djokovic tactics worked oit so far he conserve his energy in the first set and tire his opponents and then take over but i dont think he will do that in the final he will go all out kyrgios is a dangerous opponent in the grass and he is much younger than djokovic so i think novak will go all out from the start but still i think kyrgios have a chance to win.

[KTChampions]

Noticed a funny thing:

Rybakina, Elena 2.27

Jabeur, Ons 1.64

The bookmaker's margin is exactly 5%.

Djokovic, Novak 1.21

Kyrgios, Nick 3.8

Bookmaker margin 9%!  
It turns out that bookmakers are extremely unsure about the result of the men's final, since the margin is unusually large (usually it is in the region of 4-6% and closer to 4% for major events). Even the women's finals (where the games are always more random) have regular quotes.

[babygun]

Djokovic tactics worked oit so far he conserve his energy in the first set and tire his opponents and then take over but i dont think he will do that in the final he will go all out kyrgios is a dangerous opponent in the grass and he is much younger than djokovic so i think novak will go all out from the start but still i think kyrgios have a chance to win.

I don't think it is a real tactic of Djokovic. Why would he want to loose the first set to conserve some energy? The longer the match goes on, the more his energy gets depleted also so all players are focused to win in 3 sets in the shortest amount of time.

[noormcs5]

Rybakina, Elena 2.27

Jabeur, Ons 1.64

Seeing these odds, Jabeur is the favorite to win this final but i am not sure whom to bet on. I am not a big fan of women's tennis and i think most people watch more of the Men matches as compared to the Women's tennis matches. I have watched almost all the matches of Nadal and Djokovic live on the TV but only watched the highlights of a few of the women's matches.

[Joca97]

Rybakina, Elena 2.27

Jabeur, Ons 1.64

Seeing these odds, Jabeur is the favorite to win this final but i am not sure whom to bet on. I am not a big fan of women's tennis and i think most people watch more of the Men matches as compared to the Women's tennis matches. I have watched almost all the matches of Nadal and Djokovic live on the TV but only watched the highlights of a few of the women's matches.

Rybakina just won 2-1 in sets against Jabeur and won the wimbledon grand slam. Too bad the points dont count she would be in top 10 now but this is a huge achivement for here. She won it out of nowhere before this she couldnt win 3 matches in a row

[buwaytress]

I suppose a lot of people didn't see Ons losing, didn't do anything for Women's this one around cause wasn't happy to see odds, but this Rybakina, have to say never heard of her until this final. Don't shoot me if she's top or something, I didn't know about Ons until the last WTA! Yes, I'm terrible I know.

Morning tip for you guys, play something agains Pavic/Mektic today. Pavic has fell on his hand during last match and fractured something, he can barely use his right hand. He is left handed so they will play but he can't toss the ball properly or play his usual two handed backhand.

Can't belive odds on Ebden/Purcell are still over 3. Forfeit is legit concern so don't use free bets or insurances on this one.

Too late for me reading this, shame. Think a lot of money went on the line, though I still got 2.85 which will be decent, so thanks in advance!

[JohnBitCo]

Rybakina, Elena 2.27

Jabeur, Ons 1.64

Seeing these odds, Jabeur is the favorite to win this final but i am not sure whom to bet on. I am not a big fan of women's tennis and i think most people watch more of the Men matches as compared to the Women's tennis matches. I have watched almost all the matches of Nadal and Djokovic live on the TV but only watched the highlights of a few of the women's matches.

I hope you did not bet on Jabeur.  

Those who bet on Rybakina must be enjoying and very happy to bet on her. Rybakina won her first Grand Slam title. She was down in the first set but won the next two sets 6-2 6-2 to be the first player from Kazakhstan to be the Wimbledon title holder.

[herurist]

Djokovic tactics worked oit so far he conserve his energy in the first set and tire his opponents and then take over but i dont think he will do that in the final he will go all out kyrgios is a dangerous opponent in the grass and he is much younger than djokovic so i think novak will go all out from the start but still i think kyrgios have a chance to win.

I don't think it is a real tactic of Djokovic. Why would he want to loose the first set to conserve some energy? The longer the match goes on, the more his energy gets depleted also so all players are focused to win in 3 sets in the shortest amount of time.

In this case, I quite agree with what you say, especially in this case without denying he is 7 years older than Kyrgios and there must be a difference in stamina in this case because Kyrgios will be the favorite.
It would be very bad if he gave up the first set and made his move in the next.
In the semi-finals maybe that was the plan but it's also possible that it was a mistake.

[Trofo]

It turns out that bookmakers are extremely unsure about the result of the men's final, since the margin is unusually large (usually it is in the region of 4-6% and closer to 4% for major events). Even the women's finals (where the games are always more random) have regular quotes.

I am sort of cynical so I have a very simple explanation for that difference. Couple of percent on men's final is much more money in your pocket than couple of percent on women's final. Therefore you build your good odds reputation on smaller games and then earn your paychecks on big ones.  

Watching Mektic/Pavic now and they are holding admirably well due to circumstances but that backhand is missing in Pavic arsenal and it could prove enough of advantage for opposition.

[bitbollo]

...
Djokovic, Novak 1.21

Kyrgios, Nick 3.8

Bookmaker margin 9%!  
It turns out that bookmakers are extremely unsure about the result of the men's final, since the margin is unusually large (usually it is in the region of 4-6% and closer to 4% for major events). Even the women's finals (where the games are always more random) have regular quotes.

This could be and interesting match.
There are nice odds for Djokovic vs Kyrgios match... I have seen in bet365 @1.25 and @4 !
Kyrgios could be and option to evacuate in a Exchange betting, because if he start to play well odds could decrease drastically