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[Rabi3]

Tsitsipas being an young player have got good support and can base. The years of experience keeps Djokovic ahead of Tsitsipas. Similar kind of game took place few months back in the Italian Open Final. Djokovic and Tsitsipas played the final and Tsitsipas won the match 6-0 7⁵-6⁵. Today's match looked like an much easier win for Djokovic. However Tsitsipas used to give the best in all his matches.

It is not only experience, Djokovic is just on another level than Tsitsipas. I think a lot of people have very high expectations of Tsitsipas but until now, he has not really lived up to the high expectations. Granted, he is still young (24 years old) so he got some more time to grow further.

Tsitsipas didn't not live up to the expectations of tennis fans, i was one of them and thought he's going to be one of the new big 3 or something but i was disappointed, and other players that i thought the same about them are not showing up at all, like Thiem and Zverev, we should give them more time though, they are young still, maybe after Nadal and Djokovic retire we'll see some big competition between them.

This was a big year for Tsitsipas. In every tournament he used to have some improvement. He used to cross the group stages and in the Rotterdam Cup reached the finals and unable to win against Felix Augur. This increased the expectation over him on the upcoming matches. Further there is disappointments and some good play in single and doubles. After the retirement of the big players, Tsitsipas will be on the list competing for those positions.

I can see Tsitsipas competing for those positions, he already kind of did a little bit, there is a big list that can fight for those positions, and I have one player who I think can improve and be up there in the rankings, Jannik Sinner, he is still young and I'm expecting a lot from him.

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[aoluain]

Tsitsipas being an young player have got good support and can base. The years of experience keeps Djokovic ahead of Tsitsipas. Similar kind of game took place few months back in the Italian Open Final. Djokovic and Tsitsipas played the final and Tsitsipas won the match 6-0 7⁵-6⁵. Today's match looked like an much easier win for Djokovic. However Tsitsipas used to give the best in all his matches.

It is not only experience, Djokovic is just on another level than Tsitsipas. I think a lot of people have very high expectations of Tsitsipas but until now, he has not really lived up to the high expectations. Granted, he is still young (24 years old) so he got some more time to grow further.

Tsitsipas didn't not live up to the expectations of tennis fans, i was one of them and thought he's going to be one of the new big 3 or something but i was disappointed, and other players that i thought the same about them are not showing up at all, like Thiem and Zverev, we should give them more time though, they are young still, maybe after Nadal and Djokovic retire we'll see some big competition between them.

This was a big year for Tsitsipas. In every tournament he used to have some improvement. He used to cross the group stages and in the Rotterdam Cup reached the finals and unable to win against Felix Augur. This increased the expectation over him on the upcoming matches. Further there is disappointments and some good play in single and doubles. After the retirement of the big players, Tsitsipas will be on the list competing for those positions.

Yes he will be up there at the top positions competing for tournament wins but he won't be
alone, If Felix AA can beat him there are others who will too. Alcaraz being one and we could
see a lot of clashes of the two
in the future, also as Rabi3 mentions, Sinner could be up there two.

I really like Sinner but I feel his development is slow, I really hope 2023 will be a bigger
year for him.

[BALIK]

Tsitsipas didn't not live up to the expectations of tennis fans, i was one of them and thought he's going to be one of the new big 3 or something but i was disappointed, and other players that i thought the same about them are not showing up at all, like Thiem and Zverev, we should give them more time though, they are young still, maybe after Nadal and Djokovic retire we'll see some big competition between them.

This was a big year for Tsitsipas. In every tournament he used to have some improvement. He used to cross the group stages and in the Rotterdam Cup reached the finals and unable to win against Felix Augur. This increased the expectation over him on the upcoming matches. Further there is disappointments and some good play in single and doubles. After the retirement of the big players, Tsitsipas will be on the list competing for those positions.

Yes he will be up there at the top positions competing for tournament wins but he won't be
alone, If Felix AA can beat him there are others who will too. Alcaraz being one and we could
see a lot of clashes of the two
in the future, also as Rabi3 mentions, Sinner could be up there two.

I really like Sinner but I feel his development is slow, I really hope 2023 will be a bigger
year for him.

Tsitsipas has some really good skills. But he will have to really work on those skills. And I think he will need a little more time to actually hone his skills. He has the potential to be one of the best among the top three in recent future. But as I said he needs to do a lot more work.

Alcaraz is currently the number-one seed in tennis. And he is really young. He has been a little inconsistent. But I think he is going to perform better with time. He is obviously going to be a good contender for Tsitsipas.

I am not so sure about Sinner. I agree that he is a player who could be up there. But I think ok a lot of emphasis should be given to that “could be”.  I also agree that his development is slow.  He needs to improve quickly so that he will be able to get up there quickly as well.

[bitbollo]

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I am not so sure about Sinner. I agree that he is a player who could be up there. But I think ok a lot of emphasis should be given to that “could be”.  I also agree that his development is slow.  He needs to improve quickly so that he will be able to get up there quickly as well.

He suffered several injuries during the last year.
I don't think his development is slow, he has just...21 years and he has reached the top 10 at 20 years and was able to perform well also against top 5 players.
For sure he can do better, but it's just matter of time he will get stronger results.

[btc_angela]

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I am not so sure about Sinner. I agree that he is a player who could be up there. But I think ok a lot of emphasis should be given to that “could be”.  I also agree that his development is slow.  He needs to improve quickly so that he will be able to get up there quickly as well.

He suffered several injuries during the last year.
I don't think his development is slow, he has just...21 years and he has reached the top 10 at 20 years and was able to perform well also against top 5 players.
For sure he can do better, but it's just matter of time he will get stronger results.

Yes, injuries has hampered not just Sinner's development but the likes of other young players that we have so far. Him and Alcaraz could be the face of the new tennis if he just maintained his form and not getting injured.

Tsitsipas is good but not consistent and he only plays good at the start of the year because maybe there are a lot of clay court tournaments early. But it's obvious that Alcaraz has taken over.

[n0ne]

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I am not so sure about Sinner. I agree that he is a player who could be up there. But I think ok a lot of emphasis should be given to that “could be”.  I also agree that his development is slow.  He needs to improve quickly so that he will be able to get up there quickly as well.

He suffered several injuries during the last year.
I don't think his development is slow, he has just...21 years and he has reached the top 10 at 20 years and was able to perform well also against top 5 players.
For sure he can do better, but it's just matter of time he will get stronger results.

Yes, injuries has hampered not just Sinner's development but the likes of other young players that we have so far. Him and Alcaraz could be the face of the new tennis if he just maintained his form and not getting injured.

Tsitsipas is good but not consistent and he only plays good at the start of the year because maybe there are a lot of clay court tournaments early. But it's obvious that Alcaraz has taken over.

With every sports injuries happens. With tennis quite often we can see players taking long rest. With the young players, they have got more years to show their ability to the world. Even at the very young age they've got into the leading position. I find Medvedev, Felix Augur, Tsitsipas, Alcaraz to be taking the lead on the table for a long.

[Kemarit]

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I am not so sure about Sinner. I agree that he is a player who could be up there. But I think ok a lot of emphasis should be given to that “could be”.  I also agree that his development is slow.  He needs to improve quickly so that he will be able to get up there quickly as well.

He suffered several injuries during the last year.
I don't think his development is slow, he has just...21 years and he has reached the top 10 at 20 years and was able to perform well also against top 5 players.
For sure he can do better, but it's just matter of time he will get stronger results.

Yes, injuries has hampered not just Sinner's development but the likes of other young players that we have so far. Him and Alcaraz could be the face of the new tennis if he just maintained his form and not getting injured.

Tsitsipas is good but not consistent and he only plays good at the start of the year because maybe there are a lot of clay court tournaments early. But it's obvious that Alcaraz has taken over.

With every sports injuries happens. With tennis quite often we can see players taking long rest. With the young players, they have got more years to show their ability to the world. Even at the very young age they've got into the leading position. I find Medvedev, Felix Augur, Tsitsipas, Alcaraz to be taking the lead on the table for a long.

Yes, we have discussed as to who is going to take the leading position. But those guys doesn't have the same mentality of the big 3 or 4 way back. I mean if Medvedev becomes the number 1 he should at least won many tournaments by now. But it didn't happen and then Alcaraz took over, and so all eyes are on him, if he can maintain his position and lead the new pack or will he melt out under pressure from fans and background noises from behind. We have seen him lost to a relatively unknown player and that could not be a good sign, in my opinion. Consistency is the key here.

[babygun]

Yes, we have discussed as to who is going to take the leading position. But those guys doesn't have the same mentality of the big 3 or 4 way back. I mean if Medvedev becomes the number 1 he should at least won many tournaments by now. But it didn't happen and then Alcaraz took over, and so all eyes are on him, if he can maintain his position and lead the new pack or will he melt out under pressure from fans and background noises from behind. We have seen him lost to a relatively unknown player and that could not be a good sign, in my opinion. Consistency is the key here.

In my eyes there is way too much focus on the smaller tournaments. In the end, there is only one thing that's matters in tennis and that are the grand slams. So who cares that Alcaraz lost against an unknown player in a (smaller) tournament; even Federer/Nadal/Djokovic have lost matches against unknown players.

[aoluain]

Yes, we have discussed as to who is going to take the leading position. But those guys doesn't have the same mentality of the big 3 or 4 way back. I mean if Medvedev becomes the number 1 he should at least won many tournaments by now. But it didn't happen and then Alcaraz took over, and so all eyes are on him, if he can maintain his position and lead the new pack or will he melt out under pressure from fans and background noises from behind. We have seen him lost to a relatively unknown player and that could not be a good sign, in my opinion. Consistency is the key here.

In my eyes there is way too much focus on the smaller tournaments. In the end, there is only one thing that's matters in tennis and that are the grand slams. So who cares that Alcaraz lost against an unknown player in a (smaller) tournament; even Federer/Nadal/Djokovic have lost matches against unknown players.

Hmmm that's a big statement. Yea the Grand Slams are what they are, there are only
4 annually, they pay the biggest prize money and are very prestigious but the lesser
tournaments have their part to play too. Some are more important to different players
for various reasons, that's why they keep showing up trying to win them.

[BALIK]

Yes, we have discussed as to who is going to take the leading position. But those guys doesn't have the same mentality of the big 3 or 4 way back. I mean if Medvedev becomes the number 1 he should at least won many tournaments by now. But it didn't happen and then Alcaraz took over, and so all eyes are on him, if he can maintain his position and lead the new pack or will he melt out under pressure from fans and background noises from behind. We have seen him lost to a relatively unknown player and that could not be a good sign, in my opinion. Consistency is the key here.

In my eyes there is way too much focus on the smaller tournaments. In the end, there is only one thing that's matters in tennis and that are the grand slams. So who cares that Alcaraz lost against an unknown player in a (smaller) tournament; even Federer/Nadal/Djokovic have lost matches against unknown players.

It certainly seems that a lot of people care about the performance of Alcaraz in the smaller tournaments because of the way people are talking about Alcaraz's unexpected losses. I feel this is actually creating mental pressure on the player. For a player to perform well, he needs to have a healthy mental state. And I know that teenagers are supposed to be fearless and all that, but I find that young players can also be very quick to crumble under pressure.

So, I think he should be given credit for being number one in the world now, and if anything people should try to encourage him instead of trying to find his mistakes. I think there are enough people, enough experienced people for that.

[n0ne]

Yes, we have discussed as to who is going to take the leading position. But those guys doesn't have the same mentality of the big 3 or 4 way back. I mean if Medvedev becomes the number 1 he should at least won many tournaments by now. But it didn't happen and then Alcaraz took over, and so all eyes are on him, if he can maintain his position and lead the new pack or will he melt out under pressure from fans and background noises from behind. We have seen him lost to a relatively unknown player and that could not be a good sign, in my opinion. Consistency is the key here.

In my eyes there is way too much focus on the smaller tournaments. In the end, there is only one thing that's matters in tennis and that are the grand slams. So who cares that Alcaraz lost against an unknown player in a (smaller) tournament; even Federer/Nadal/Djokovic have lost matches against unknown players.

Hmmm that's a big statement. Yea the Grand Slams are what they are, there are only
4 annually, they pay the biggest prize money and are very prestigious but the lesser
tournaments have their part to play too. Some are more important to different players
for various reasons, that's why they keep showing up trying to win them.

Agreed, the prime focus will be on the grand slams. But, it is always good to have continuity. Just think of Djokovic, recently he lost unexpected. By the time his break from tennis because of the vaccination too mentioned as a reason. Players need to keep themselves good at the small tournaments and secure then out of injuries.

[lixer]

With every sports injuries happens. With tennis quite often we can see players taking long rest. With the young players, they have got more years to show their ability to the world. Even at the very young age they've got into the leading position. I find Medvedev, Felix Augur, Tsitsipas, Alcaraz to be taking the lead on the table for a long.

Few decades back we have no big prize money like this just because of these players were doing hard job and having good money, and they love to achieve titles as much they can but recently due to big prize money and not good dedication for prestigious titles players are taking too much rest and having fitness problems as well.

Jimmy Connors hold the world record for most titles in tennis history, and he retired from tennis around 26 years back so with this now most chances no one going to break his record only Roger Federer reach new to him, and now we have only two players in action which are near to him but as their fitness and age factor are having impact on them most chances they could be not going to close this record.

[Kemarit]

Yes, we have discussed as to who is going to take the leading position. But those guys doesn't have the same mentality of the big 3 or 4 way back. I mean if Medvedev becomes the number 1 he should at least won many tournaments by now. But it didn't happen and then Alcaraz took over, and so all eyes are on him, if he can maintain his position and lead the new pack or will he melt out under pressure from fans and background noises from behind. We have seen him lost to a relatively unknown player and that could not be a good sign, in my opinion. Consistency is the key here.

In my eyes there is way too much focus on the smaller tournaments. In the end, there is only one thing that's matters in tennis and that are the grand slams. So who cares that Alcaraz lost against an unknown player in a (smaller) tournament; even Federer/Nadal/Djokovic have lost matches against unknown players.

Hmmm that's a big statement. Yea the Grand Slams are what they are, there are only
4 annually, they pay the biggest prize money and are very prestigious but the lesser
tournaments have their part to play too. Some are more important to different players
for various reasons, that's why they keep showing up trying to win them.

Yes, of course Grand Slam are the biggest tournament and the center stage in tennis. But we also have seen 250 masters and up tournament that really mold great players to become successful in Grand Slam.

Of course everyone losses, but what I'm trying to say is that top players needs to be consistent and take every tournament seriously even if it small or mid or the big 4 Grand Slams.

[aoluain]

Yes, we have discussed as to who is going to take the leading position. But those guys doesn't have the same mentality of the big 3 or 4 way back. I mean if Medvedev becomes the number 1 he should at least won many tournaments by now. But it didn't happen and then Alcaraz took over, and so all eyes are on him, if he can maintain his position and lead the new pack or will he melt out under pressure from fans and background noises from behind. We have seen him lost to a relatively unknown player and that could not be a good sign, in my opinion. Consistency is the key here.

In my eyes there is way too much focus on the smaller tournaments. In the end, there is only one thing that's matters in tennis and that are the grand slams. So who cares that Alcaraz lost against an unknown player in a (smaller) tournament; even Federer/Nadal/Djokovic have lost matches against unknown players.

Hmmm that's a big statement. Yea the Grand Slams are what they are, there are only
4 annually, they pay the biggest prize money and are very prestigious but the lesser
tournaments have their part to play too. Some are more important to different players
for various reasons, that's why they keep showing up trying to win them.

Yes, of course Grand Slam are the biggest tournament and the center stage in tennis. But we also have seen 250 masters and up tournament that really mold great players to become successful in Grand Slam.

Of course everyone losses, but what I'm trying to say is that top players needs to be consistent and take every tournament seriously even if it small or mid or the big 4 Grand Slams.

Yes absolutely, another target for the top players is getting into top 10 and challenging
for the number 1 position. All the tournaments from 250 upwards play their part in
rewarding players with points which go into the journey to the top, they have to take
all tournaments seriously then!


Is anyone following any of the tournaments currently running?

ATP - Firenze Open
WTA - San Diego

I am watching the match between Swiatek and Zheng at San Diego and have a -4.5 handicap
on Swiatek. It's getting close to not being met if Swiatek wins in 2 sets....

[BitcoinAccepted]

I don't follow these tournaments. Usually I follow some matches of the Grand Slam tournaments. There are also so many tournaments on a yearly basis. You could watch a tournament somewhere every day. Actually, the unique content has disappeared a bit due to the crowded tennis schedule every year. Most attention is paid to the Grand Slam tournaments. Players are also picky about which tournaments they want to play each year. In the 90s there were far fewer tournaments and players were happy to fill their schedule. I'm hoping that Ashley Barty might want to make a comeback to tennis one day. It was so good, stopped much too early actually, but I understand it due to difficult private circumstances.

[KennyR]

Is anyone following any of the tournaments currently running?

ATP - Firenze Open
WTA - San Diego

I am watching the match between Swiatek and Zheng at San Diego and have a -4.5 handicap
on Swiatek. It's getting close to not being met if Swiatek wins in 2 sets....

Lucky, the match moved to the third set. Iga Swiatek won against Zheng at the third set, 6-4, 4-6, 6-1. As you've mentioned the match moving to the third set have got this match to be a winning handicap. In the Quarter final Swiatek to play against Coco Gauff.

[Juggy777]

Yes, we have discussed as to who is going to take the leading position. But those guys doesn't have the same mentality of the big 3 or 4 way back. I mean if Medvedev becomes the number 1 he should at least won many tournaments by now. But it didn't happen and then Alcaraz took over, and so all eyes are on him, if he can maintain his position and lead the new pack or will he melt out under pressure from fans and background noises from behind. We have seen him lost to a relatively unknown player and that could not be a good sign, in my opinion. Consistency is the key here.

In my eyes there is way too much focus on the smaller tournaments. In the end, there is only one thing that's matters in tennis and that are the grand slams. So who cares that Alcaraz lost against an unknown player in a (smaller) tournament; even Federer/Nadal/Djokovic have lost matches against unknown players.

Hmmm that's a big statement. Yea the Grand Slams are what they are, there are only
4 annually, they pay the biggest prize money and are very prestigious but the lesser
tournaments have their part to play too. Some are more important to different players
for various reasons, that's why they keep showing up trying to win them.

Yes, of course Grand Slam are the biggest tournament and the center stage in tennis. But we also have seen 250 masters and up tournament that really mold great players to become successful in Grand Slam.

Of course everyone losses, but what I'm trying to say is that top players needs to be consistent and take every tournament seriously even if it small or mid or the big 4 Grand Slams.

Yes absolutely, another target for the top players is getting into top 10 and challenging
for the number 1 position. All the tournaments from 250 upwards play their part in
rewarding players with points which go into the journey to the top, they have to take
all tournaments seriously then!


Is anyone following any of the tournaments currently running?

ATP - Firenze Open
WTA - San Diego

I am watching the match between Swiatek and Zheng at San Diego and have a -4.5 handicap
on Swiatek. It's getting close to not being met if Swiatek wins in 2 sets....

I feel that it’s not wise to ignore the loss in smaller tournament’s, because champions never let their guard down even against unknown opponents. Furthermore those big 3 thrived to win in each and every match they played, and they had an attitude to give 100% in each and every match irrespective of the opponent and this attitude is clearly missing from this current generation of player’s.

[aoluain]

Is anyone following any of the tournaments currently running?

ATP - Firenze Open
WTA - San Diego

I am watching the match between Swiatek and Zheng at San Diego and have a -4.5 handicap
on Swiatek. It's getting close to not being met if Swiatek wins in 2 sets....

Lucky, the match moved to the third set. Iga Swiatek won against Zheng at the third set, 6-4, 4-6, 6-1. As you've mentioned the match moving to the third set have got this match to be a winning handicap. In the Quarter final Swiatek to play against Coco Gauff.

Yes, what a relief, Swiatek pulled away in the third set. I forgot I had a -4.5 handicap on
Badosa to beat Chirico which she did easily 0-6, 3-6 so that was a handy bet.

Coco Gauff will probably be a slightly bigger challenge for Iga but she is still favourite
1.44 - 2.7. I'm not sure if I'll bet on that one, I can't get a ?.5 handicap on Coco, I would
like a 4.5 but Rollbit are offering max 4.0...

[wiss19]

Right now we have an event ATP - SINGLES Gijon Spain Thiem and Rublev won their quarterfinals now going to have tomorrow their semifinal in this event with Carreno-Busta is having hard time against French man Rinderknech with third set is right now play with the score of 1 each set for both player and third set is level with the score of 3 - 3 most chances Spaniard Carreno-Busta will be won this match and after this we have last quarterfinal between Murray vs Korda here in this match American Korda is hot favorite for win.

But, I am expecting good fight from Murray which is doing good in last few matches and trying to have the best result for him which is difficult but still possible.

[Rabi3]

Andy Murray lost today in Gijon against Korda 2-1 , Murray was the underdog so it was not shocking that he lost, the American is one of my personal favorite young players, i saw him play a couple of matches before, he is pretty good, he didn't quite blow up but he's still young, i'm pretty sure he can win a big title in the future.