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November 02, 2015, 02:42:05 PM
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ICO is expected? Or what options will be available to early-stage investment?

I think ICO wil be held later this year before christmas.

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November 02, 2015, 02:43:53 PM
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It was already discussed several pages earlier.

We agreed that my picture shows a successful attack vector. Your picture shows an improbable case when a merchant accepts a transaction with very low confirmation score (no matter how many squares you'll draw keeping the same topology).

PS: Yes, mthcl fixed that issue.
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November 02, 2015, 02:59:19 PM
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It was already discussed several pages earlier.

We agreed that my picture shows a successful attack vector. Your picture shows an improbable case when a merchant accepts a transaction with very low confirmation score (no matter how many squares you'll draw keeping the same topology).

PS: Yes, mthcl fixed that issue.
OK, Here's a more elaborate picture:


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November 02, 2015, 03:22:34 PM
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OK, Here's a more elaborate picture:


More squares don't help here without an explanation why other green squares haven't been approving the legit transaction for long period of time.
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November 02, 2015, 03:32:38 PM
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November 02, 2015, 03:34:14 PM
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OK, Here's a more elaborate picture:


More squares don't help here without an explanation why other green squares haven't been approving the legit transaction for long period of time.
I already wrote it earlier. Because it was not published for a long time, until preparation for the attack is complete.

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November 02, 2015, 03:46:48 PM
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I already wrote it earlier. Because it was not published for a long time, until preparation for the attack is complete.

So, the merchant sees a clear sign that his transaction hasn't been seen by the network for a long period of time and he still thinks that the service/goods should be provided without waiting for much longer?
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November 02, 2015, 04:57:14 PM
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I already wrote it earlier. Because it was not published for a long time, until preparation for the attack is complete.

So, the merchant sees a clear sign that his transaction hasn't been seen by the network for a long period of time and he still thinks that the service/goods should be provided without waiting for much longer?
You claim that your design allows mergers of split subtangles. The merchant sees something like that. Your algo, described in the whitepaper, shows good confirmation score. Do you want merchants to analyze the DAG manually?

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November 02, 2015, 04:58:07 PM
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You claim that your design allows mergers of split subtangles. The merchant sees something like that. Your algo, described in the whitepaper, shows good confirmation score. Do you want merchants to analyze the DAG manually?

No, of course. The software will do that.
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November 02, 2015, 05:00:06 PM
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You claim that your design allows mergers of split subtangles. The merchant sees something like that. Your algo, described in the whitepaper, shows good confirmation score. Do you want merchants to analyze the DAG manually?

No, of course. The software will do that.
So that's what I asked. Is there a fix already?

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November 02, 2015, 05:02:22 PM
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So that's what I asked. Is there a fix already?

Yes, the fix is done, we were just discussing another issue weren't we?
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November 02, 2015, 05:04:41 PM
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So that's what I asked. Is there a fix already?

Yes, the fix is done, we were just discussing another issue weren't we?
That is the same issue, which I beleive, mthcl and you admitted to exist.
If it's fixed, may we see an updated whitepaer?

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November 02, 2015, 05:09:37 PM
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That is the same issue, which I beleive, mthcl and you admitted to exist.
If it's fixed, may we see an updated whitepaer?

Well, the issue was improbability of your picture because it had a sign of successfully conducted eclipse attack (if the transaction was published), that case was not what we were talking about. The discrepancy between the words and the picture made me argue, otherwise someone digging deeper would be confused.

Updating whitepaper is not that simple as typing few words, it will take some time.
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November 02, 2015, 05:16:44 PM
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Well, the issue was improbability of your picture because it had a sign of successfully conducted eclipse attack (if the transaction was published), that case was not what we were talking about. The discrepancy between the words and the picture made me argue, otherwise someone digging deeper would be confused.

Updating whitepaper is not that simple as typing few words, it will take some time.
Eclipse attack is irrelevant to this scenario. The attacker only needs to delay publishing some of his transactions.

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Eclipse attack is irrelevant to this scenario. The attacker only needs to delay publishing some of his transactions.

I thought we were talking about the standard case of a non-delayed transaction issued by an up-to-date node. If you do delay a transaction then the picture has the same profile as one with an eclipse attack.
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November 02, 2015, 05:42:47 PM
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So that's what I asked. Is there a fix already?

Yes, the fix is done, we were just discussing another issue weren't we?
That is the same issue, which I beleive, mthcl and you admitted to exist.
If it's fixed, may we see an updated whitepaer?
I'll post the new tip selection algorithm later today.
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November 02, 2015, 06:51:40 PM
Last edit: November 02, 2015, 07:39:01 PM by mthcl
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Here:  http://docdro.id/CXDq93a

Upd.: in (1), there should be exp in the sum as well (so that the transition probabilities sum to 1). Already uploaded the corrected version to docdroid.
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November 03, 2015, 09:22:24 AM
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ICO is expected? Or what options will be available to early-stage investment?

Yes ICO.

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November 03, 2015, 10:02:13 AM
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ICO is expected? Or what options will be available to early-stage investment?

Yes ICO.

When?
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November 03, 2015, 10:12:27 AM
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ICO is expected? Or what options will be available to early-stage investment?

Yes ICO.

When?

when?Huh?
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