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November 20, 2015, 08:30:17 PM
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OK,  UDP seems really proper with low latency for what you are doing.
The message encryption is done by the publisher which is the POW part, right?
Than the publisher fan-out the message to all known endpoints and they store the hash only?
Do the nodes who receiving the message send them further to all endpoints they know, or the hash only?
(I guess this would be the validation process)

How do you handle serialization of all this many small packages?
Do you use protocol buffer or another queuing library?

Sorry for the many ?. But distributed apps are very fascinating (problems).

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November 20, 2015, 08:42:47 PM
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OK,  UDP seems really proper with low latency for what you are doing.
The message encryption is done by the publisher which is the POW part, right?
Than the publisher fan-out the message to all known endpoints and they store the hash only?
Do the nodes who receiving the message send them further to all endpoints they know, or the hash only?
(I guess this would be the validation process)

How do you handle serialization of all this many small packages?
Do you use protocol buffer or another queuing library?

Sorry for the many ?. But distributed apps are very fascinating (problems).

Message can be encrypted or in plaintext.
All nodes send the message, not the hash.
I didn't get the serialization of a packet part - all packets are serialized objects.
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November 20, 2015, 09:02:08 PM
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I didn't get the serialization of a packet part - all packets are serialized objects.

OK, that implies you use bytestream <=> Object conversion by JVM.
 

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November 20, 2015, 09:07:29 PM
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Message can be encrypted or in plaintext.
All nodes send the message, not the hash.
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Does it means, all encrypted messages become encrypted again by receiving nodes
and than sent further?
(I try to get the POW part)

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November 20, 2015, 09:14:40 PM
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OK, that implies you use bytestream <=> Object conversion by JVM.

No, JVM is not involved, it's conversion of Iota objects.
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November 20, 2015, 09:15:12 PM
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Does it means, all encrypted messages become encrypted again by receiving nodes
and than sent further?
(I try to get the POW part)

No. Messages are retransmitted as is.
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November 20, 2015, 09:47:57 PM
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OK, that implies you use bytestream <=> Object conversion by JVM.

No, JVM is not involved, it's conversion of Iota objects.

My assumption was that IOTA is in Java and you use java object serialization.
Could you give me a hint ;-)

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November 20, 2015, 09:49:05 PM
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Does it means, all encrypted messages become encrypted again by receiving nodes
and than sent further?
(I try to get the POW part)

No. Messages are retransmitted as is.

Is the POW concept explained in the paper?

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November 20, 2015, 09:56:58 PM
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My assumption was that IOTA is in Java and you use java object serialization.
Could you give me a hint ;-)

We use our own serialization, Iota works with trinary-based numbers.
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November 20, 2015, 09:57:17 PM
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Is the POW concept explained in the paper?

No.
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November 20, 2015, 10:02:20 PM
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My assumption was that IOTA is in Java and you use java object serialization.
Could you give me a hint ;-)

We use our own serialization, Iota works with trinary-based numbers.

OK, seems I need to be patient until the "Katze is aus dem Sack"
Thanks.

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November 20, 2015, 10:05:10 PM
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Is the POW concept explained in the paper?

No.

Phuu, seems I'm lucky not to go through all the math:)
Is the concept released anywhere or do I need to be patient?

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November 20, 2015, 10:07:27 PM
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Is the concept released anywhere or do I need to be patient?

Details will be known later.
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November 20, 2015, 10:14:27 PM
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OK, many thanks!

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November 21, 2015, 04:20:11 AM
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Loophole-free Bell test TU Delft crowns 80-years-old debate on nature of reality: Einsteins “spooky action” is real.
http://www.tudelft.nl/en/current/latest-news/article/detail/einsteins-ongelijk-delfts-experiment-beeindigt-80-jaar-oude-discussie/

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November 21, 2015, 04:35:31 AM
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Is the concept released anywhere or do I need to be patient?

Details will be known later.
fine ,waiting for your official news
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November 21, 2015, 09:23:29 PM
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Loophole-free Bell test TU Delft crowns 80-years-old debate on nature of reality: Einsteins “spooky action” is real.
http://www.tudelft.nl/en/current/latest-news/article/detail/einsteins-ongelijk-delfts-experiment-beeindigt-80-jaar-oude-discussie/

Definitely a really interesting result. Last 'loophole free' test turned out to have been analysed wrong, so expect another 6 months until consensus.  It also leave retrocausal and free will loophole open

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November 22, 2015, 01:18:07 PM
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We can finally disclose the date for the IOTA crowdsale. It will begin on the 25th of November at 2 PM UTC.


All details surrounding the sale will be made available on Wednesday.

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November 22, 2015, 01:53:03 PM
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We can finally disclose the date for the IOTA crowdsale. It will begin on the 25th of November at 2 PM UTC.


All details surrounding the sale will be made available on Wednesday.

what about jinn holders?
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November 22, 2015, 01:55:14 PM
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what about jinn holders?
Look this https://nxtforum.org/news-and-announcements/%28ann%29-jinn/msg201200/?topicseen#msg201200  Wink
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