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November 26, 2015, 06:28:50 PM 

100% is an illusion
I disagree. Onetime pad seeded with message digest gives 100% unbreakable encryption.






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nexern


November 26, 2015, 06:56:15 PM 

100% is an illusion
I disagree. Onetime pad seeded with message digest gives 100% unbreakable encryption. disagree, you can't exclude an alien/metamath come in existence anytime, able to break even your 'current here and now knowledge level'. even with close to zero probability you can't give a serious 100% this happen never guarantee. here you have your 100% again.




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November 26, 2015, 07:15:49 PM 

Alright, let's get back to brainstorming. So far we have :  encrypted email  encrypted message  storage  nano payment
What about decentralized social networking ? Decentralized identity ?




iotatoken


November 26, 2015, 07:17:41 PM 

Alright, let's get back to brainstorming. So far we have :  encrypted email  encrypted message  storage  nano payment
What about decentralized social networking ? Decentralized identity ?
No need to just focus on the decentral and encrypted nature, pay per second streaming is another really good potential




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November 26, 2015, 07:23:34 PM 

Alright, let's get back to brainstorming. So far we have :  encrypted email  encrypted message  storage  nano payment
What about decentralized social networking ? Decentralized identity ?
Synereo?




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November 26, 2015, 07:41:15 PM 

disagree, you can't exclude an alien/metamath come in existence anytime, able to break even your 'current here and now knowledge level'. even with close to zero probability you can't give a serious 100% this happen never guarantee. here you have your 100% again.
I doubt aliens can hack anything that is mathematically proven to be 100% secure. Math is universal.




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November 26, 2015, 07:43:37 PM 

disagree, you can't exclude an alien/metamath come in existence anytime, able to break even your 'current here and now knowledge level'. even with close to zero probability you can't give a serious 100% this happen never guarantee. here you have your 100% again.
I doubt aliens can hack anything that is mathematically proven to be 100% secure. Math is universal. The universe is not ruled (only) by Maths. We would know everything otherwise.




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November 26, 2015, 07:49:12 PM 

The universe is not ruled (only) by Maths. We would know everything otherwise.
I'm not going to start a religious dispute now.




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November 26, 2015, 07:55:33 PM 

The universe is not ruled (only) by Maths. We would know everything otherwise.
I'm not going to start a religious dispute now. Math may be universal but without a unified theory we do not have the correct math.




iotatoken


November 26, 2015, 08:01:35 PM 

This will quickly descend into a debate of Platonism vs its alternatives. If you are a strong platonist supporter I recommend 'Our Mathematical Universe' (2014) by Max Tegmark. Gets really trippy really fast. But let's stay on topic of IOTA in here




nexern


November 26, 2015, 08:01:58 PM 

disagree, you can't exclude an alien/metamath come in existence anytime, able to break even your 'current here and now knowledge level'. even with close to zero probability you can't give a serious 100% this happen never guarantee. here you have your 100% again.
I doubt aliens can hack anything that is mathematically proven to be 100% secure. Math is universal. no aliens needed here. but it is always good we have at least 'something' we can rely on even if it's just a snapshot i guess. meanwhile quantum eraser experiments tells us we shouldn't rely to much on this so i will put this phrase into the 'hope dies last' box.




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November 26, 2015, 08:03:01 PM 

Math may be universal but without a unified theory we do not have the correct math. We were talking about 100% in some variant of math. In that math it's exactly 100%. If you use another math then "100%" claim doesn't make sense in it.




nexern


November 26, 2015, 08:14:14 PM 

This will quickly descend into a debate of Platonism vs its alternatives. If you are a strong platonist supporter I recommend 'Our Mathematical Universe' (2014) by Max Tegmark. Gets really trippy really fast. But let's stay on topic of IOTA in here harhar, i guess your hackles lining up atm if you read all this crypto/meta nonsense and you are right. IOTA has promising capabilities, i recommend to shift your app/usage ideas a little into the commercial, mass market direction, ofc only if you intend to reach out for this segment. i think also that storage related apps and egoverning/prediction market as tobo mentioned are great areas but this needs more informations about IOTAs storage handling/strategies.




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November 26, 2015, 09:35:30 PM 

Those who use Android, post your screen resolution, please.




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November 26, 2015, 10:31:16 PM 

Those who use Android, post your screen resolution, please.
480x854




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November 26, 2015, 11:32:08 PM 

Math may be universal but without a unified theory we do not have the correct math. We were talking about 100% in some variant of math. In that math it's exactly 100%. If you use another math then "100%" claim doesn't make sense in it. Ahh, there you go bringing "Context" into the equation.




WorldCoiner


November 27, 2015, 06:43:37 AM 

This will quickly descend into a debate of Platonism vs its alternatives. If you are a strong platonist supporter I recommend 'Our Mathematical Universe' (2014) by Max Tegmark. Gets really trippy really fast. But let's stay on topic of IOTA in here ...back to topic. Screen resolution Wiko Rainbow (Chinese No Name android phone): 720 x 1280




Jimmy2011


November 27, 2015, 06:57:30 AM 

disagree, you can't exclude an alien/metamath come in existence anytime, able to break even your 'current here and now knowledge level'. even with close to zero probability you can't give a serious 100% this happen never guarantee. here you have your 100% again.
I doubt aliens can hack anything that is mathematically proven to be 100% secure. Math is universal. Math is universal, that is science related, but the reality is physical engineering, which will be improved a lot by Physics. Say something beyond Quantum, that will break the present Math. It is not 100%, but greater than 0% for sure. So I doubt 100% in the end. We can just say 100% at present and not 100% universal.




Jimmy2011


November 27, 2015, 06:59:56 AM 

Those who use Android, post your screen resolution, please.
I have two phones. 1920*1080 1280*720




iotatoken


November 27, 2015, 10:47:45 PM 

Thanks, keep em coming!




