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November 09, 2015, 08:56:33 PM
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my download stopped after 5.4mb

i once had a similar problem with virtualbox bridging (which essentially used linux kernel network bridge). if you have some kind of container setup which uses a bridge this may be the reason (i solved it by switching to nat - so i dont know exactly the reason) - and my problem was the other way around: all downloads stopped after some mb.

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November 10, 2015, 10:20:14 AM
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Now we are testing how keys are created and how JWrapper works.

Use any of the files below:

For Windows 32-bit - http://188.138.57.93/atoi32.exe or https://mega.nz/#!5BZQSbrJ!LL1twKvyVOphFgzfSikTcOMVwSEhmfeopsRpp4tN_04
For Windows 64-bit - http://188.138.57.93/atoi64.exe or https://mega.nz/#!ccQVyLjC!4F_iGdmkvCIOSx6KSD607cY7Pv7881uNy0f2s54gecI
For Linux 32-bit - http://188.138.57.93/atoi32.tar or https://mega.nz/#!1NgDQQBL!NA3TdqeDy1z3bHYcPMXne4b4lwCLyb5RpZzqFAyww9A
For Linux 64-bit - http://188.138.57.93/atoi64.tar or https://mega.nz/#!hZx2RJ5L!Pg2s6gQg4KCUF_v0I0i4_EWXMsraLATMDMf2wqFOZS8
For Java 8 - http://188.138.57.93/atoi.jar (run via "java -jar atoi.jar")
The source code - http://188.138.57.93/atoi.java (compile via "javac atoi.java")

Run the app and open http://localhost:9999/9abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz9abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz9abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz (it will take 5-10 seconds). You will see something like
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GIETRWDKTJWJVAJDKZQHZAWGGKNCEONKJOUUCWCWLSSVTBUCATOIZTPLYVDDOISPZWBNHZMWRSDMQWE IN_IIBACWXHBCDIEJZSX9SUQAKI9XQNFJIQUASNMJLJZEHDZAOAQZJGMUQDHRRQYGOGSJRAJ99TKHGY DVPQE
The first part is your public key, the second part is your checkpointing key. These keys need to be published during the sale via https://blockchain.info/wallet.

"9abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz9abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz9abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwx yz" is a seed that must be kept in secret, later it will be used to sign transactions. Don't use "9abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz9abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz9abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwx yz", of course. Use another set of characters that noone could guess. It must be 81 chars long and can contain '9' and lowercase latin letters.

Can we use special chars like &*)(@#$ ect in the seed? I tested it, it doesn't work properly.

Test chars:

9abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz9abcdefghijklm*op(rstu&#vwxyz9abcdefghijklmno&qrstuvwabba

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November 10, 2015, 10:24:02 AM
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Who are you , iotatoken, can you identify yourself, iotatoken should be your sockpuppet.

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November 10, 2015, 10:51:10 AM
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Can we use special chars like &*)(@#$ ect in the seed? I tested it, it doesn't work properly.

Test chars:

9abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz9abcdefghijklm*op(rstu&#vwxyz9abcdefghijklmno&qrstuvwabba

No, not allowed chars are ignored.
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November 10, 2015, 11:04:18 AM
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Obviously I can't use blockchain.info with Jinn. What about us?
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November 10, 2015, 11:07:53 AM
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Obviously I can't use blockchain.info with Jinn. What about us?

Any Nxt client that allows to attach an unencrypted message.
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November 10, 2015, 12:33:39 PM
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Who are you , iotatoken, can you identify yourself, iotatoken should be your sockpuppet.

His name is David Sonstebo - https://bitscan.com/articles/all-about-iota-microtransactions-and-the-iot

David is the project manager for this project if I am correct.
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November 10, 2015, 12:53:45 PM
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Who are you , iotatoken, can you identify yourself, iotatoken should be your sockpuppet.

His name is David Sonstebo - https://bitscan.com/articles/all-about-iota-microtransactions-and-the-iot

David is the project manager for this project if I am correct.

True. I also don't see what CfB could possibly do with a sockaccount here haha

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November 10, 2015, 02:10:18 PM
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Will Iota adopt brain wallet similar to Nxt?

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November 10, 2015, 02:29:57 PM
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quantum computer proof does sound handy Smiley and I very much like the name.
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November 10, 2015, 02:42:32 PM
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Will Iota adopt brain wallet similar to Nxt?


Yes. But the seed will be forced to 81 latin letters and '9'. Nothing stops other devs from using another approach, of course.
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November 10, 2015, 06:34:13 PM
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Will Iota adopt brain wallet similar to Nxt?


Yes. But the seed will be forced to 81 latin letters and '9'. Nothing stops other devs from using another approach, of course.

why the fuck not 12345678 ?
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November 10, 2015, 07:13:59 PM
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why the fuck not 12345678 ?

Iota is the 9th letter of Greek alphabet.
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November 10, 2015, 08:36:16 PM
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Will Iota adopt brain wallet similar to Nxt?


Yes. But the seed will be forced to 81 latin letters and '9'. Nothing stops other devs from using another approach, of course.

why the fuck not 12345678 ?

I'm going to read a bit between the lines here but IOTA is built to work efficiently with a ternary (as opposed to ye traditional binary) processor that CfB is working on.  I would assume that since there are 26 letters in the English alphabet, adding an additional character to the list would make a well rounded 27 (3^3) available characters.  So 3 trits (think base-3 bits) can easily represent one character in the pubkey.  By adding one more character to the usable alphabet you don't have to filter out or validate that one, unusable value. All possible 3-trit values can be used for an 81-character pubkey.

But why 9?  Since 0 and 1 tend to be thrown out of specialty character sets that may need to be read by humans, this would leave digits 2-9 as possible numeric candidates for the 27th letter of the alphabet. 

Being that this is for a ternary system, we could narrow down the numeric character subset to values "2", "3", "6" and "9" as best possibly choices for stylistic reasons.

Since 9 = 3^2 and as CfB mentioned is the position of the Iota in the Greek alphabet, it makes sense to use the character "9" as the final letter in the IOTA pubkey alphabet.

Again, I'm reading between the lines but this is likely the logic I would have followed if I needed to create a ternary-friendly alphabet consisting of a minimal subset of characters for pubkeys.

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November 10, 2015, 08:41:15 PM
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I'm going to read a bit between the lines here but IOTA is built to work efficiently with a ternary (as opposed to ye traditional binary) processor that CfB is working on.  I would assume that since there are 26 letters in the English alphabet, adding an additional character to the list would make a well rounded 27 (3^3) available characters.  So 3 trits (think base-3 bits) can easily represent one character in the pubkey.  By adding one more character to the usable alphabet you don't have to filter out or validate that one, unusable value. All possible 3-trit values can be used for an 81-character pubkey.

But why 9?  Since 0 and 1 tend to be thrown out of specialty character sets that may need to be read by humans, this would leave digits 2-9 as possible numeric candidates for the 27th letter of the alphabet. 

Being that this is for a ternary system, we could narrow down the numeric character subset to values "2", "3", "6" and "9" as best possibly choices for stylistic reasons.

Since 9 = 3^2 and as CfB mentioned is the position of the Iota in the Greek alphabet, it makes sense to use the character "9" as the final letter in the IOTA pubkey alphabet.

Again, I'm reading between the lines but this is likely the logic I would have followed if I needed to create a ternary-friendly alphabet consisting of a minimal subset of characters for pubkeys.

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November 10, 2015, 09:43:03 PM
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Seed must be exactly 81 characters long or it can be shorter?
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November 10, 2015, 09:47:16 PM
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Seed must be exactly 81 characters long or it can be shorter?

Exactly, to ensure 243-trit entropy.
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November 11, 2015, 04:01:00 AM
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Will Iota adopt brain wallet similar to Nxt?


Yes. But the seed will be forced to 81 latin letters and '9'. Nothing stops other devs from using another approach, of course.

Exact 81 characters for a brain wallet seed, so it seems a little inconvenient for the user memory and input. I think there will be definitely some other wallets available with great random entropy and easy for use, say wallet file similar to Bitcoin.

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November 11, 2015, 09:09:42 AM
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I think there will be definitely some other wallets available with great random entropy and easy for use, say wallet file similar to Bitcoin.


Hi,
could you explain what is "random entropy", please?

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November 11, 2015, 01:53:48 PM
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I think there will be definitely some other wallets available with great random entropy and easy for use, say wallet file similar to Bitcoin.


Hi,
could you explain what is "random entropy", please?

It should be "randomness/entropy" Smiley

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