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What gobert does will actually decide his future with the league as well, that is the biggest thing here. This dude is only 27 years old, sure he is not loved by everyone right now but he has time to actually figure out a way to make it up to everyone he affected. Dude basically suspended the league all by himself by being infected as well, maybe the league would have suspended anyway for couple weeks later or maybe just a few more days, but it was him that broke the barrier and caused the suspension.
If he acts all nice and distributes money like kevin love did and many other stuff and actually tries to repriment what he did and shows remorse and guilt that means he still has a chance. However if he acts like a snob cock about it than he may actually be out of the league. Not like he didn't made enough money as it is, however nobody at Gobert level would want to be forced to retire at 27 years old. I doubt Donovan would ever want to play with him for example, if they are forced they would but given option Spida would want to be as far away from him as possible even after the virus.
I do see a light at the end of the tunnel for Gobert but I also think that he needs to be very very careful, he should probably hire a PR company to help him figure this out as well, otherwise his job will be immensely difficult.
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March 13, 2020, 06:36:43 PM |
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I agree with Tristan though, this is crazy. The first time I saw it on Facebook, I immediately search it on google. To be honest, as Steph said it there is nothing to compare it to. As far as I know, there is this time when the NBA shortened the games being played by each team at that season. My father told me that in the past while watching Space Jam at the part where they canceled the games being played. And yeah, he sends me a message asking if I can still remember that since it is now happening. This is indeed crazy but the organization would not make a decision if there's no crazy threat. Maybe they are just overreacting, the suspension is only 30 days, maybe waiting for the decision after the period would be the wise thing to do. It's a hard decision for the NBA officials, so they'll take time to make a decision, hopefully the decision is for the benefit of all. For now, this decision is for the benefits of everyone, it's tough but it's needed, taking the risk and gamble the health conditions of each and every individuals who loves this game. The board needs to decide avoiding the much higher concerned once the virus takes more people in danger.
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March 13, 2020, 08:00:08 PM |
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As others already know, only Donovan Mitchell is the one that seen right away having infected with the virus out of 50+ people tested within around Jazz vicinity right after there was a confirmation that Gobert is positive with the virus. Meaning other Jazz players and all staff will continue under the mandatory quarantine period. The next one to be tested is those teams who got clash with the Utah Jazz in the past week. Hopefully, there will be no increase in infected players but I doubt that will end there.
Gobert's teammates are upset with him. The big man's action in their locker room a few days before he was tested positive of the virus is "not his usual behavior" that's why it's hard to believe for the others that he is not aware of his condition.
I'm more concerned now after the situation got under control. It will be difficult now for Gobert to regain the trust, not just to his current teammates but for the whole players in the league as well. The virus really ruined everything.
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March 13, 2020, 10:10:01 PM |
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Dude basically suspended the league all by himself by being infected as well, maybe the league would have suspended anyway for couple weeks later or maybe just a few more days, but it was him that broke the barrier and caused the suspension.
If you look it like that, then it is not such a bad thing after all. Led by pure greed NBA team owners didn't want to stop the league, therefore they endangered health of players and fans way more than Gobert did. By pausing NBA sooner than later, way less people will get infected in the end, therefore it could have been much worse if league was suspended few weeks later. It was just matter of time anyway, so whether it's Gobert or someone else, it doesn't really matter. Italians ignored the disease, and we see what they have going on there, this should be lesson for everyone else not to screw in situation like this. Actually I would rather see NBA being played without fans in an arena than cancelling the whole season, I think that's the decision they'll make when they resume.
Problem with this is that basketball is contact sport, and even without fans, players could spread disease among themselves easily, and that could hurt league way more in the long run, rather than some break. NBA survived lockouts and crises, and so will this as well.
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March 13, 2020, 10:41:54 PM |
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Maybe continuing the games isn't out greed from the NBA Owners, at least as of then it wasn't much of a threat and they were already looking at playing with no spectators in area which have reported higher cases. However, I do agree with @Rikafip on the part of Gobert being the reason the NBA was made to realize that the games should be suspended not being so bad as it might have seemed, actually imo, it was more of a blessing in disguise, because if it weren't for Gobert's action the games would have continued and perhaps later on with no spectators(most probably), but meanwhile that's not the issue, the point is that if you look at the amount games played by each team in a week and the number contacts made per game, the virus could have easily spread across every team in the NBA within the time frame of two weeks which is the expected duration for an individual with the virus fall ill.
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March 13, 2020, 11:32:04 PM |
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actually imo, it was more of a blessing in disguise, because if it weren't for Gobert's action the games would have continued.. According to the report, Gobert is almost cleared to play on that game against the OKC. Yes, he will 100% play on that game. He feels healthy after all. That game will commence. Gobert is not feeling well, maybe the day after they lose to Raptors game so he was listed as "questionable" on that game against the OKC. He was put on the medical test and the result is "negative". Gobert now just waiting for the confirmation that he is cleared to play. However, the NBA medical staff and Oklahoma health officials decided to test him for the COVID-19 test. I just don't know how they end up considering that decision. So the one that needs to be credited here is those medical staff that decided to make another round of tests for Gobert that even he is now cleared to play on that game, they still consider testing him with COVID-19 test. Now watching the replay between the recently Raptors and Jazz game and all I can say is "whew". It's like watching a live infection game. I now feel sorry for Gobert. I can't imagine what on his mind right now. It's surely "heavy".
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March 14, 2020, 02:55:52 AM |
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I speculate the NBA commisioner will declare that the regular season will not be played in full to let the playoffs begin on time. The present top 8 on each conference might be the top 8 by the end of the regular season with only a small difference on the bottom 2.
I doubt that would happen, other teams will certainly complain, that's unfair especially those who still have a chance but are out in the playoff picture now. I am still in favor of extending the period, rather than cutting to still stay on schedule but would sacrifice lower seed chances to qualify. However, what about if the lockdowns and the mass gathering bans continue until on May or June? It would certainly be very hard to continue the playoffs in full without cancelling some games on the regular season.
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March 14, 2020, 04:43:47 AM |
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According to the report, Gobert is almost cleared to play on that game against the OKC. Yes, he will 100% play on that game. He feels healthy after all. That game will commence.
Gobert is not feeling well, maybe the day after they lose to Raptors game so he was listed as "questionable" on that game against the OKC. He was put on the medical test and the result is "negative". Gobert now just waiting for the confirmation that he is cleared to play. However, the NBA medical staff and Oklahoma health officials decided to test him for the COVID-19 test. I just don't know how they end up considering that decision.
So the one that needs to be credited here is those medical staff that decided to make another round of tests for Gobert that even he is now cleared to play on that game, they still consider testing him with COVID-19 test.
Thanks for the full story report here. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Now watching the replay between the recently Raptors and Jazz game and all I can say is "whew". It's like watching a live infection game. I now feel sorry for Gobert. I can't imagine what on his mind right now. It's surely "heavy".
Sure is. It is difficult when you are part of something that ain't normal out of the many. Well maybe if there will be millions infected he will not be that sad. But I know he could get over this, they are not the normal average person. They are NBA players with healthy bodies and this might become just a little fever for them. But what will happen to the Jazz team after this. Mitchell is not happy with what Gobert did and so does other players of the team. He might be sorry but that is still a reckless move.
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March 14, 2020, 09:51:33 AM |
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But what will happen to the Jazz team after this. Mitchell is not happy with what Gobert did and so does other players of the team. He might be sorry but that is still a reckless move.
They'll have to be professional, it doesn't seem like Gobert want his teammates to get infected, he does not know he already had covid so he act as normal to his teammates, although he has done some childish acts during the interview that's why he got infected, but they'll forget it, what they have to focus now is to stay healthy and get themselves cured from this virus.
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March 14, 2020, 02:20:02 PM |
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Plus these are NBA players, not like all of them are super smart normally, they may have some fued and all but as long as Gobert shows remorse I doubt it would be a trouble. Lets see if the league will be as forgiven tho, they have literally suspended the league because of him, without him they would be forced to suspend in a few days anyway so it is not really directly because of Gobert but he still did took it couple days early, couple days early means millions of dollars between games visitors, tickets, foods, merchandise and tv rights.
I estimate coming back on late april or early may, that seems like the logical return when the summer comes and heat avarages increases so that covid would be less effective in those type of weather at least.
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March 14, 2020, 02:59:08 PM |
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How do you even proceed after this? I mean let's say Gobert is cleared and Donovan is cleared as well, and you do tests to everyone and you cancel all the viewers in the arena and just make sure bare minimum number of people are there who are all tested and fine, it is still not NBA as we know it. Hell I am not even sure if people would want to play with players who got corona but get cured, even after being cured it will be hard for players to play against those people psychologically.
In short, we will need a lot more evaluation to continue, it may actually really take more than a month to come back. Whatever happens I am 100% certain that no team would allow to continue playoffs from right here, they will want to play the rest of the games if the season will continue.
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March 14, 2020, 03:19:25 PM |
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How do you even proceed after this? I mean let's say Gobert is cleared and Donovan is cleared as well, and you do tests to everyone and you cancel all the viewers in the arena and just make sure bare minimum number of people are there who are all tested and fine, it is still not NBA as we know it. Hell I am not even sure if people would want to play with players who got corona but get cured, even after being cured it will be hard for players to play against those people psychologically.
In short, we will need a lot more evaluation to continue, it may actually really take more than a month to come back. Whatever happens I am 100% certain that no team would allow to continue playoffs from right here, they will want to play the rest of the games if the season will continue.
That's the mentality behind, once a player/s got positive with this virus those who will play against him will think for it's health. We can't blame people's mindsets after the spread of this pandemic virus. Gobert and Mitchell are examples of how this virus can reach people whatever state you have in life and how healthy you think you are.
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March 14, 2020, 10:07:06 PM |
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How do you even proceed after this? I mean let's say Gobert is cleared and Donovan is cleared as well, and you do tests to everyone and you cancel all the viewers in the arena and just make sure bare minimum number of people are there who are all tested and fine, it is still not NBA as we know it. Hell I am not even sure if people would want to play with players who got corona but get cured, even after being cured it will be hard for players to play against those people psychologically.
In short, we will need a lot more evaluation to continue, it may actually really take more than a month to come back. Whatever happens I am 100% certain that no team would allow to continue playoffs from right here, they will want to play the rest of the games if the season will continue.
As you said, it needs a lot of evaluation. These players will not be cleared if they are not 100% virus-free. It will undergo a serious medical test and I think it will take several months. As for the player's mentality, these players are professional and trust their medical system about the results. These players are matured. If they don't believe in the result that there is no virus now among players and staff and still has a doubt to play against those players that got infected then they did not respect the ones who put effort to cure and clean the virus within the NBA. That situation is already serving a lesson to the NBA, therefore, expect much stricter monitoring about the health of all players once this virus problem got resolved.
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March 14, 2020, 11:16:40 PM |
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I speculate the NBA commisioner will declare that the regular season will not be played in full to let the playoffs begin on time. The present top 8 on each conference might be the top 8 by the end of the regular season with only a small difference on the bottom 2.
I doubt that would happen, other teams will certainly complain, that's unfair especially those who still have a chance but are out in the playoff picture now. I am still in favor of extending the period, rather than cutting to still stay on schedule but would sacrifice lower seed chances to qualify. However, what about if the lockdowns and the mass gathering bans continue until on May or June? It would certainly be very hard to continue the playoffs in full without cancelling some games on the regular season. It's really hard to tell, I guess everything now relies on how the covid-19 will progress, if it become worst, no chance the NBA season will resume, probably it will be cancelled, not because NBA trying to be unfair to other teams but they are just doing the right thing to do during this crisis.
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March 14, 2020, 11:18:49 PM |
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Hays, this is sad. No more games because of this virus. I wish that the infected players will completely recover and be cured as soon as possible. The tracking should be done and the people they've talked to and interacted with before knowing that they were infected must also go into self-quarantine to avoid further infections. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif)
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March 14, 2020, 11:24:23 PM |
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I speculate the NBA commisioner will declare that the regular season will not be played in full to let the playoffs begin on time. The present top 8 on each conference might be the top 8 by the end of the regular season with only a small difference on the bottom 2.
I doubt that would happen, other teams will certainly complain, that's unfair especially those who still have a chance but are out in the playoff picture now. I am still in favor of extending the period, rather than cutting to still stay on schedule but would sacrifice lower seed chances to qualify. However, what about if the lockdowns and the mass gathering bans continue until on May or June? It would certainly be very hard to continue the playoffs in full without cancelling some games on the regular season. It's really hard to tell, I guess everything now relies on how the covid-19 will progress, if it become worst, no chance the NBA season will resume, probably it will be cancelled, not because NBA trying to be unfair to other teams but they are just doing the right thing to do during this crisis. Agreed since if they insist and do some business even if there's a crisis for sure they will lead the spread since we know how popular they are. Its not about doing some unfair things or whatsoever since the issue about public health is so serious and I'm sure gobert learned a lesson for not taking seriously the current disease. Hays, this is sad. No more games because of this virus. I wish that the infected players will completely recover and be cured as soon as possible. The tracking should be done and the people they've talked to and interacted with before knowing that they were infected must also go into self-quarantine to avoid further infections. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) They will men they are closely monitored and for sure their team management will do their best to get their man back in their good shape and also they are young so the chances of recovery is huge.
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March 15, 2020, 02:54:36 AM |
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How do you even proceed after this? I mean let's say Gobert is cleared and Donovan is cleared as well, and you do tests to everyone and you cancel all the viewers in the arena and just make sure bare minimum number of people are there who are all tested and fine, it is still not NBA as we know it. Hell I am not even sure if people would want to play with players who got corona but get cured, even after being cured it will be hard for players to play against those people psychologically.
In short, we will need a lot more evaluation to continue, it may actually really take more than a month to come back. Whatever happens I am 100% certain that no team would allow to continue playoffs from right here, they will want to play the rest of the games if the season will continue.
That will be their problem. Example is McGee don't want to guard Gobert then the Jazz could score easily. Just kidding. Yes, there is a mental problem which will happen afterwards. Players are also human. They are also thinking about their health and also their relatives. They don't want to be going home carrying the virus and kids having it. I won't forgive myself if I had done that. All must be clear. Give the players assurance that all is clean. That way they could play as normal as before. But it won't be since there is no fans. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I would not really try that. Imagine Lebron after dunking so hard then putting a facial expression without crowd. It's like playing NBA2k20 on your smartphone switching off the crowd for a faster gameplay. The difference is Lebron is real now and not a computer. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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March 15, 2020, 03:07:51 AM |
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Hays, this is sad. No more games because of this virus. I wish that the infected players will completely recover and be cured as soon as possible. The tracking should be done and the people they've talked to and interacted with before knowing that they were infected must also go into self-quarantine to avoid further infections. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) They will men they are closely monitored and for sure their team management will do their best to get their man back in their good shape and also they are young so the chances of recovery is huge. Yes, although most reports of mortality go with the old ones but everyone is prone to it but I'm also believing that they will recover soon. They are athletic and their bodies are hyper-active. And that means their immune-system is strong.
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March 15, 2020, 03:08:29 AM |
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Hays, this is sad. No more games because of this virus. I wish that the infected players will completely recover and be cured as soon as possible. The tracking should be done and the people they've talked to and interacted with before knowing that they were infected must also go into self-quarantine to avoid further infections. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) For sure the team owners and the commissioners will take actions in order to lessen the possibilities of much wider spread of this virus around their premises. Fans are likely to accept this actions from the league governors in order not to bring more risk and have more casualties.
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March 15, 2020, 06:04:37 AM |
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Hays, this is sad. No more games because of this virus. I wish that the infected players will completely recover and be cured as soon as possible. The tracking should be done and the people they've talked to and interacted with before knowing that they were infected must also go into self-quarantine to avoid further infections. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) For sure the team owners and the commissioners will take actions in order to lessen the possibilities of much wider spread of this virus around their premises. Fans are likely to accept this actions from the league governors in order not to bring more risk and have more casualties. Safety first as they say, but hey guys, what are you doing at home now? I am just working at home now and I can't have fun like I usually do, betting in NBA games was one of the my favorite type of gambling and now it makes me stop doing it due to this corona virus, here in our country, we are in lock down, we can't go anywhere so no choice for us but to just stay at home. Maybe I'll just start watching previous games that I haven't watch before, just to keep myself busy. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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