2024 NBA Season

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That's the media, they always report something that is negative because it catches the eyes of the many, we already know that Jordan is great both as a player and a dad, so it's not new anymore but they report that Jordan is gambling or has a gambling addiction, people will begin to speculate and that makes the story very interesting.

Yeah sounds interesting for the ears of the many but how about the condition of the person they are intriguing? Do you think did they care about it? Maybe not. *sigh How sad that such unpleasant way of getting the attention of the mass is now a norm . Some news agencies would do everything just to make a "catchy" headline or ready to become biased for exchange of something.

Like here in our country, one of the leading TV networks here is ordered to shut down by the government which happened last Tuesday because of many anomalies and being biased/doing a black propaganda is one of them. Those are still unproven accusations but who knows . Maybe they are just covering their own mistakes. (Filipinos out there can relate)

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That is so true. Controversy sells. That is how it is in real life regarding news agencies. Why should a headline saying "Jordan is a great dad" sell? That does not spark anything in anybody's mind. You say "Jordan is now addicted to gambling, losing millions" and that's something an ordinary man would pick up. So everybody's specifically writing that and let everybody else entertain themselves and their imaginations with it.

That's the media, they always report something that is negative because it catches the eyes of the many, we already know that Jordan is great both as a player and a dad, so it's not new anymore but they report that Jordan is gambling or has a gambling addiction, people will begin to speculate and that makes the story very interesting.

We don't even know exactly whether Jordan is great as a dad. That is beyond our interest and care. What I mean is Jordan has made a legacy in Basketball. He's a true legend. I am not sure if everyone else does, but I greatly admire the man as a basketball athlete. So whether he is an addicted gambler, a drunkard, a loggerhead, batters his wife, fathered a lot of children with different mothers, etc, that's a different story I don't care about. My appreciation for Jordan is his being a legendary athlete and not something else. 

[Rosilito]

This just popped out of my chrome application.

https://8points9seconds.com/2020/05/05/indiana-pacers-evaluating-timberwolves-trade-myles-turner/

Dylan Jackson put together a great hypothetical trade breakdown for Timberwolves fans at Dunking With Wolves looking at how Myles Turner could be the Wolves’ third star if they trade for him.

It's just a blueprint if ever Pacers will ever trade him. But I doubt that.  

Pacers looking strong with their current rosters. If this kind of trade be at function it might be Oladipo be at risk if he can't play the same thing he was before, IMO only. Don't get me wrong, I don't like Oladipo being traded, fans really loves him though.

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We don't even know exactly whether Jordan is great as a dad. That is beyond our interest and care. What I mean is Jordan has made a legacy in Basketball. He's a true legend. I am not sure if everyone else does, but I greatly admire the man as a basketball athlete. So whether he is an addicted gambler, a drunkard, a loggerhead, batters his wife, fathered a lot of children with different mothers, etc, that's a different story I don't care about. My appreciation for Jordan is his being a legendary athlete and not something else.  

How I wish for people to think, and appreciate the great athlete the same way as you 'cause that's really good, isolating unrelated stuff, and look up to him as an athlete alone which unfortunately some people don't. And that might be bad for Jordan hearing some kind of label solely based from not credible, exaggerated and sometimes fabricated stories.

Well, with today's environment some kind of bs doesn't work well. Specially if the athlete on the hot seat knows how to speak, and validate things with their socmed account. Might not be enough, but at least people who knew how to check stuff in the net won't be manipulated by a ridiculous stories. Moreover, it would be just like a clickbait.

[mirakal]

That is so true. Controversy sells. That is how it is in real life regarding news agencies. Why should a headline saying "Jordan is a great dad" sell? That does not spark anything in anybody's mind. You say "Jordan is now addicted to gambling, losing millions" and that's something an ordinary man would pick up. So everybody's specifically writing that and let everybody else entertain themselves and their imaginations with it.

That's the media, they always report something that is negative because it catches the eyes of the many, we already know that Jordan is great both as a player and a dad, so it's not new anymore but they report that Jordan is gambling or has a gambling addiction, people will begin to speculate and that makes the story very interesting.

We don't even know exactly whether Jordan is great as a dad. That is beyond our interest and care. What I mean is Jordan has made a legacy in Basketball. He's a true legend. I am not sure if everyone else does, but I greatly admire the man as a basketball athlete. So whether he is an addicted gambler, a drunkard, a loggerhead, batters his wife, fathered a lot of children with different mothers, etc, that's a different story I don't care about. My appreciation for Jordan is his being a legendary athlete and not something else. 

The NBA will protect Jordan no matter what, they also have a lot of influence in the media, and if a news is to destroy Jordan, it would also destroy the NBA because Jordan has been the face of the NBA for years, even now I guess.

Just like when a player says negative about NBA, like saying NBA is fix, or complaining publicly on the bad calls of the referee, the NBA will do things like penalizing a certain player with huge penalty so they will not do the same thing of voicing their opinion.

[Reid]

This just popped out of my chrome application.

https://8points9seconds.com/2020/05/05/indiana-pacers-evaluating-timberwolves-trade-myles-turner/

Dylan Jackson put together a great hypothetical trade breakdown for Timberwolves fans at Dunking With Wolves looking at how Myles Turner could be the Wolves’ third star if they trade for him.

It's just a blueprint if ever Pacers will ever trade him. But I doubt that.  

Pacers looking strong with their current rosters. If this kind of trade be at function it might be Oladipo be at risk if he can't play the same thing he was before, IMO only. Don't get me wrong, I don't like Oladipo being traded, fans really loves him though.

Same idea.
Oladipo though is still in the healing process specially mentally. So I think, they will still give him a chance on that.
What could be the better proposal?
Hmm, don't trade anyone?
Yes, that is better. I would vote for that if ever they will make a poll before deciding.
Pacers is a strong team, they might just need to improve it.

[Natalim]

This just popped out of my chrome application.

https://8points9seconds.com/2020/05/05/indiana-pacers-evaluating-timberwolves-trade-myles-turner/

Dylan Jackson put together a great hypothetical trade breakdown for Timberwolves fans at Dunking With Wolves looking at how Myles Turner could be the Wolves’ third star if they trade for him.

It's just a blueprint if ever Pacers will ever trade him. But I doubt that.  

Pacers looking strong with their current rosters. If this kind of trade be at function it might be Oladipo be at risk if he can't play the same thing he was before, IMO only. Don't get me wrong, I don't like Oladipo being traded, fans really loves him though.

Same idea.
Oladipo though is still in the healing process specially mentally. So I think, they will still give him a chance on that.
What could be the better proposal?
Hmm, don't trade anyone?
Yes, that is better. I would vote for that if ever they will make a poll before deciding.
Pacers is a strong team, they might just need to improve it.

I think they will only trade Turner and they will keep Oladipo, but the question is who is going to be traded in Pacers in exchange of Turner.
Actually Turner as a big man is good defensively but if the pacers are looking of some offense and defense, I don't know who can provide that from the Wolves, maybe Towns, but for sure it's not gonna happen.

[matchi2011]

 The fact is that contraversy sells and it makes papers sold, in 92-93 era of course it was paper newspaper, it wasn't online just yet so we know that there was no clickbait online news just yet, but still at those times if you wrote scandalous headlines there will be more sold. Now if you are "Jordan is an all around decent guy" you will not sell too many newspapers, sure to a point you will, they did it for years with like "Jordan scored 55, what a great player" and all that but people got bored.

 So what did they do? They decided to make news about how Jordan is breaking down and how he was a gambling addict and all the bad things they could find about him since that would really sell newspapers. All the TV shows also talked about it because it would be watched as well. So basically this all comes down to money, attacking Jordan became more lucrative for them then supporting him (maybe except in chicago)

Correct, people already knew how great Jordan was and if you will report things according to his stats then it will not get any additional interest, those reporters who begins to write about Jordan's gambling activities creates headlines back then, those stories about his engagements with sports gambling and casino gambling really makes decent money to the publishers.

That is so true. Controversy sells. That is how it is in real life regarding news agencies. Why should a headline saying "Jordan is a great dad" sell? That does not spark anything in anybody's mind. You say "Jordan is now addicted to gambling, losing millions" and that's something an ordinary man would pick up. So everybody's specifically writing that and let everybody else entertain themselves and their imaginations with it.

Interest of the people will be captured especially if you place some interesting caption, put something where Jordans is playing cards with someone that's not familiar it will sell right away. Many people will buy the articles and for sure that what happened before when this controversy takes place from the hypes of his career.

[onrise]

That is so true. Controversy sells. That is how it is in real life regarding news agencies. Why should a headline saying "Jordan is a great dad" sell? That does not spark anything in anybody's mind. You say "Jordan is now addicted to gambling, losing millions" and that's something an ordinary man would pick up. So everybody's specifically writing that and let everybody else entertain themselves and their imaginations with it.

That's the media, they always report something that is negative because it catches the eyes of the many, we already know that Jordan is great both as a player and a dad, so it's not new anymore but they report that Jordan is gambling or has a gambling addiction, people will begin to speculate and that makes the story very interesting.

We don't even know exactly whether Jordan is great as a dad. That is beyond our interest and care. What I mean is Jordan has made a legacy in Basketball. He's a true legend. I am not sure if everyone else does, but I greatly admire the man as a basketball athlete. So whether he is an addicted gambler, a drunkard, a loggerhead, batters his wife, fathered a lot of children with different mothers, etc, that's a different story I don't care about. My appreciation for Jordan is his being a legendary athlete and not something else. 

For me no doubt he is an class apart as a player. But at the end of the day he is human and there are some basic disciplines which cannot be compromised. Like if he is gambling legally, drinking legally etc are all fine but beating etc would not be tolerated and it is not even appreciated by anyone. But character also matter of any person and this make them the true legend as well.

[boyptc]

Correct, people already knew how great Jordan was and if you will report things according to his stats then it will not get any additional interest, those reporters who begins to write about Jordan's gambling activities creates headlines back then, those stories about his engagements with sports gambling and casino gambling really makes decent money to the publishers.

In the journalism industry, as long as they can get something like this as a content, it's lucrative for them. They wouldn't care about who are they're dealing with and what will be their feeling as long as the subject is popular, it's a great cover for them.

[Rikafip]

I think they will only trade Turner and they will keep Oladipo, but the question is who is going to be traded in Pacers in exchange of Turner.
Actually Turner as a big man is good defensively but if the pacers are looking of some offense and defense, I don't know who can provide that from the Wolves, maybe Towns, but for sure it's not gonna happen.

Turner is a very good player, but Domantas Sabonis is even better, imho, so you gotta do what you gotta do. It ain't easy to let player like Turner go, but in current NBA i don't think that you can use 2 big guys at the same time and fight for championship.  And it's not fair to both those payer, to constantly share game time, and not using them to fullest potential.I agree with Oladipo part as well, Pacers will wait for him. I doubt that they can get player similar to his level before injury, and without player like him, they won't be contenders, and that;s something I would really like to see, as I am fan of those kind of teams, that come from smaller markets.

With that being said, I doubt that Turner would like to end up in the team like Timberwolves as they are complete mess (not that he will any say about that though), and from that article, I don't think that Wolves can offer anything good for him.


 

[tbterryboy]

I doubt Pacers are looking "strong" with their current roster. Do not get me wrong they are not one of the bad teams on the league but they are right now not going to do anything at all, their best situation would be like a second round exit on playoff and that is probably the best ever they could hope for, even missing out playoff is a possible thing for that team if they have some injuries like they had.

So, I think breaking it all down and starting to rebuild and hoping to get couple of good rookies would be ideal for them. Look at sixers, they basically got only 2 good rookies with Embiid and Simmons, most others are trades they did to get there and honestly they are doing pretty well, they almost beat latest champions and only lost because of Kawhi's famous shot.

[Captain Corporate]

 I think it is not even about having 2 good big guys that you should send to someone else to get better. I mean you could always have 2 good players at center as long as you have other parts ready as well, it all depends on the talent level you have plus the cap situation you are having as well. If you have 5 players who are all great, your sixth could be a center as well without a doubt. However pacers need other parts to get better as well, right now they do not have that 5 great one so they will of course look to trade and turner is a national team level player so they could get something great for him.

 Personally I would look for draft picks, because with draft picks you are not sure what you are getting, when you get a player you know what you get out of a deal and it is usually either under or equal to what you are giving, rarely better but even that happens just a bit. However when you get draft pick you might get something insanely much better.

[chaser15]

Look at sixers, they basically got only 2 good rookies with Embiid and Simmons, most others are trades they did to get there and honestly they are doing pretty well, they almost beat latest champions and only lost because of Kawhi's famous shot.

If it's about being beaten by the Raptors, not a good basis. Sixers are the favorites on that game. During that time, no one even expected that Raptors will win all the way to ECF.

Sixers are lacking good role players from the bench and that was a concern for years since Embiid and Simmons arrived. Embiid is on fire last season as he is determined to get the NBA season MVP although he failed but if I'm not mistaken, he was on Top 5. His stats are incredible and even get the record as the only other big man, aside from Wilt, in Sixers team history with multiple triple-doubles in the same season.

Just imagined if Sixers have a good backup on the bench and not just the team is revolving around Embiid and Simmons. They can likely dominate the East.

[Ziskinberg]

Just imagined if Sixers have a good backup on the bench and not just the team is revolving around Embiid and Simmons. They can likely dominate the East.

They can improve if they want but let's give that win to the Raptors, I also bet on the Sixers to win against that series but the Raptors are just the stronger team and they have a better chemistry than the Sixers, I admire that they trust Leonard and Leonard also trust his teammates, that's their secret to success.

[Reid]

I think they will only trade Turner and they will keep Oladipo, but the question is who is going to be traded in Pacers in exchange of Turner.
Actually Turner as a big man is good defensively but if the pacers are looking of some offense and defense, I don't know who can provide that from the Wolves, maybe Towns, but for sure it's not gonna happen.

Yeah, it's difficult to look for a big man with the same agility.
Turner might be one of the effective centers in the league. So it going to be a difficult situation for them to trade this guy.

As said in my link it is like they will risk him for a number 1 draft pick. But it is still a theory.
It may also be because they have Sabonis already and want to free one big man.

Both are young at 24 years old, good below the rim and also have a mid range shooting.
They might really risk one in exchange for a forward maybe or another shooter for addition at the offensive line.

[Kasabus]

Just imagined if Sixers have a good backup on the bench and not just the team is revolving around Embiid and Simmons. They can likely dominate the East.

They can improve if they want but let's give that win to the Raptors, I also bet on the Sixers to win against that series but the Raptors are just the stronger team and they have a better chemistry than the Sixers, I admire that they trust Leonard and Leonard also trust his teammates, that's their secret to success.

Leonard is already proven to be a good team player, he can carry the team, he just need a little support from his teammates and they will win.
In the last season, it was him who is the most consistent on his team, and despite playing some little injury but we can see how smart he is when already in the floor, of course we cannot deny that the Sixers are a good team but that time, the Raptors were underrated.

they beat the Bucks even if they are the underdog and I've seen how Leonard take this team to the NBA finals.

They might really risk one in exchange for a forward maybe or another shooter for addition at the offensive line.

we will follow this, hopefully the Pacers here will not make a bad decision trading a very reliable center.

[Rikafip]

So, I think breaking it all down and starting to rebuild and hoping to get couple of good rookies would be ideal for them. Look at sixers, they basically got only 2 good rookies with Embiid and Simmons, most others are trades they did to get there and honestly they are doing pretty well, they almost beat latest champions and only lost because of Kawhi's famous shot.

Breaking it all down and rebuild the team would be an overkill for current Pacers situation. Sure, they are not contenders, but they are not thrash either that they should take such a drastic measure. Even without their best player avail Le for most of the season, they have pretty decent recordings this season.
What they need is healthy Oladipo and getting something valuable for Turner, and I think that they would reach conference final. Still probably not strong enough to beat the Bucks, but they could put up a good fight.

What we know though is that Pacers are not afraid to trade even their best players, like when they traded Paul George for Oladipo and Sabonis, so who knows, maybe  even Oladipo gets traded this time. Question is, what can they get for  him?

Another question is Oladipo contract, that expires next year. Currently he is on 4 years/$85 million contract, but he will certainly ask for much more than that. So if Pacers don't want to trade him, they will have to offer  I would say maybe even 30/year for him to stay and I'm not so sure that they will go for that.

[Natalim]

I think they will only trade Turner and they will keep Oladipo, but the question is who is going to be traded in Pacers in exchange of Turner.
Actually Turner as a big man is good defensively but if the pacers are looking of some offense and defense, I don't know who can provide that from the Wolves, maybe Towns, but for sure it's not gonna happen.

Turner is a very good player, but Domantas Sabonis is even better, imho, so you gotta do what you gotta do. It ain't easy to let player like Turner go, but in current NBA i don't think that you can use 2 big guys at the same time and fight for championship.  And it's not fair to both those payer, to constantly share game time, and not using them to fullest potential.I agree with Oladipo part as well, Pacers will wait for him. I doubt that they can get player similar to his level before injury, and without player like him, they won't be contenders, and that;s something I would really like to see, as I am fan of those kind of teams, that come from smaller markets.

With that being said, I doubt that Turner would like to end up in the team like Timberwolves as they are complete mess (not that he will any say about that though), and from that article, I don't think that Wolves can offer anything good for him.


 

He is good of course especially this season where I can see he has improve a lot, but in terms of consistency, I see it on Turner because his position being a center fits for him, so if you are saying that Sabonis will be Center when Turner will be traded, that will still remain to be seen if he will be effective in that position.

[Reid]

So, I think breaking it all down and starting to rebuild and hoping to get couple of good rookies would be ideal for them. Look at sixers, they basically got only 2 good rookies with Embiid and Simmons, most others are trades they did to get there and honestly they are doing pretty well, they almost beat latest champions and only lost because of Kawhi's famous shot.

Breaking it all down and rebuild the team would be an overkill for current Pacers situation. Sure, they are not contenders, but they are not thrash either that they should take such a drastic measure. Even without their best player avail Le for most of the season, they have pretty decent recordings this season.
What they need is healthy Oladipo and getting something valuable for Turner, and I think that they would reach conference final. Still probably not strong enough to beat the Bucks, but they could put up a good fight.

What we know though is that Pacers are not afraid to trade even their best players, like when they traded Paul George for Oladipo and Sabonis, so who knows, maybe  even Oladipo gets traded this time. Question is, what can they get for  him?

Another question is Oladipo contract, that expires next year. Currently he is on 4 years/$85 million contract, but he will certainly ask for much more than that. So if Pacers don't want to trade him, they will have to offer  I would say maybe even 30/year for him to stay and I'm not so sure that they will go for that.

Sadly, I don't have merits to share. I agree with everything and you have a point.

A healthy Oladipo. That is the crucial question about the Pacers.
If only that injury didn't happen they could one of the top contenders in the East.
That is why I am a little shock about that Turner trade conspiracy theory. They have a chance of course, they will just need to wait for Oladipo to get back on his feet and also be mentally ready.
Their defense is one of the top because of Turner and Sabonis. The missing part is fire power which was Oladipo before the injury.
Watched CNN just now and they are letting Portland Trail Blazers to have some practice provided 4 players only with social distancing.

[Finestream]

Watched CNN just now and they are letting Portland Trail Blazers to have some practice provided 4 players only with social distancing.

So I was not able to watch it as I don't have time but I am expecting that the kind of practice is just more on shooting.
With this practice they are doing, will  this hint that the season will not be cancelled and will come back soon with a different set up?