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December 04, 2020, 05:04:49 AM
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WB and Beal? Hmmm. I don't know if it will work. Harden and WB didn't work and it's almost the same.
I'll just bite my tounge this time around as I can't tell what could really be the outcome or if there's synergy on both of them, we'll see that once the new season starts. This time Harden will never leave the Rockets, I assume that will be the case.

This really have got to be one of the weirdest trade that somehow felt right at one moment. Westbrook bring brought to Washington means that he will be creating plays that was meant for Wall but I know that Wall is more clutch than Westbrook and maybe we can see some chemistry after some games.
Lets just hope all these managers are creating their best decisions to at least create a great season ahead.

Nah, I don't think that Washington will stick to the old play design for John Wall, they are totally different and it won't work on WB here. And it's the worst thing a coach will do, used a design play for other players. Coaches are smart and that's why they are there, to create a new tactic for WB alone.

And I agree, yeah, it's a weird trade, but both players wanted to get out of their previous team, so it's easy to do the trade and then hope for the best result this season.

We can't argue that both players are still on their superstar status now, both teams certainly sees it's an opportunity to get a new player to lead their team, that's why they agreed. If by record of the player they acquire, Washington has the advantage of that trade as they got a previous MVP who average a triple double during the time if I'm not mistaken, but Westbrook has been declining lately, but who knows he can get back to his old self playing with the Wizard.

And this could be the last hurray for both of them, probably a good 2-3 years barring that no injury to Wall and Westbrook. So with a fresh new start, we might see a second wind to both of them 1st season and then after that we will see if they still got it to be on top of their game and still maintain that superstar status they have.

Win-win situation for both teams and players. And we might see Westbrook averaging triple triple again. And Wall averaging in the 20's ppg together with Harden.
I really like this quotation. The discussion has taken too long and I will continue this one to stretch for more.

Anyway, about the NBA players trading means that each team can get a chance of good spot in NBA play offs or Finals. But as long as Lebron James playing with lakers together with Davis and other contributing good players then they will have a very difficult way to achieve into the Finals and winnin against this team.

So, let Harden, westbrook, KD and Paul George back to OKC. Old good fellas should have return to the team where they started ad became known before being traded to other team.
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December 04, 2020, 05:08:06 AM
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Nah, I don't think that Washington will stick to the old play design for John Wall, they are totally different and it won't work on WB here. And it's the worst thing a coach will do, used a design play for other players. Coaches are smart and that's why they are there, to create a new tactic for WB alone.

And I agree, yeah, it's a weird trade, but both players wanted to get out of their previous team, so it's easy to do the trade and then hope for the best result this season.
With Wall out, it's Beal's team now and not WB.
He's a newcomer in the East and will look at him as a rookie again.
It's sad to see WB being passed on to different teams. He used to be a player that sticks in one team long term.
At 32 years old, he can still do so much, and yet he is being moved a lot being treated like he's already a veteran.
Exactly, but I believe he will finally find a place to stay and retire, though Beal is the leader of the team but the respect to westbrook is still high.
What they really need is just a chemistry since both are great players, they can improve their team by helping each other, work as a team, not individually.


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December 04, 2020, 05:21:18 AM
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So, let Harden, westbrook, KD and Paul George back to OKC. Old good fellas should have return to the team where they started ad became known before being traded to other team.
Looks like a "never again" scenario and I doubt if this 4 of them meet again on the same team but who knows the NBA always make some surprise surprise moments. The KD and Harden tandem again was good rumor but it turns out KD denies that, well, I think they really will not be in chemistry when almost 3 of them want always the piece of the ball every shot clock.

I think Harden will stay with the Rockets they may have a big three there with Wall and Cousins but the latter are questionable as they have just recent injuries not good IMO.

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December 04, 2020, 10:34:43 AM
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So, let Harden, westbrook, KD and Paul George back to OKC. Old good fellas should have return to the team where they started ad became known before being traded to other team.
Looks like a "never again" scenario and I doubt if this 4 of them meet again on the same team but who knows the NBA always make some surprise surprise moments. The KD and Harden tandem again was good rumor but it turns out KD denies that, well, I think they really will not be in chemistry when almost 3 of them want always the piece of the ball every shot clock.
That's possible but unlikely to happen, all of these players have already enjoyed where they are now, they fans love them, except for Westbrook of course since he hasn't played with the Wizards yet and we would not know how the fans will accept him.


I think Harden will stay with the Rockets they may have a big three there with Wall and Cousins but the latter are questionable as they have just recent injuries not good IMO.
Cousin's is unreliable because he is prone to injury, so I would say not a big 3.

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December 04, 2020, 10:46:38 AM
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So, let Harden, westbrook, KD and Paul George back to OKC. Old good fellas should have return to the team where they started ad became known before being traded to other team.
Looks like a "never again" scenario and I doubt if this 4 of them meet again on the same team but who knows the NBA always make some surprise surprise moments. The KD and Harden tandem again was good rumor but it turns out KD denies that, well, I think they really will not be in chemistry when almost 3 of them want always the piece of the ball every shot clock.

I think Harden will stay with the Rockets they may have a big three there with Wall and Cousins but the latter are questionable as they have just recent injuries not good IMO.

Yeah, I doubt that they will end up in one team again like OKC, they already had their time their and it didn't work very well. Harden will definitely stay with the Rockets for now and still call the shots, but I doubt that people behind him like Wall and Cousins will make any difference though.

No disrespect specially to Cousins, but he has a lot of wear and tear already, while Wall is coming off from a season ending injury so we still don't know the extend of the damage.

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December 04, 2020, 10:59:10 AM
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No disrespect specially to Cousins, but he has a lot of wear and tear already, while Wall is coming off from a season ending injury so we still don't know the extend of the damage.

Honestly, based on what I see, cousins is not anymore as a valuable player as he was before.

After he got traded to the Pelicans, I think he was already battling with injury or maybe he was traded because he was battling already when he was still with the Kings, but respect to this man, he was really making the Kings at exciting team to watch during the early stage of his career, it was just the injury problem that is slowly killing his future in the NBA.

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December 04, 2020, 12:25:59 PM
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No disrespect specially to Cousins, but he has a lot of wear and tear already, while Wall is coming off from a season ending injury so we still don't know the extend of the damage.

Honestly, based on what I see, cousins is not anymore as a valuable player as he was before.

After he got traded to the Pelicans, I think he was already battling with injury or maybe he was traded because he was battling already when he was still with the Kings, but respect to this man, he was really making the Kings at exciting team to watch during the early stage of his career, it was just the injury problem that is slowly killing his future in the NBA.

You are not the only one who sees that, it's pretty evident based on the amount of contract he had recently. He was signed for one year deal amounting to $2 million, not the usual salary for a star player because they signed at least $20 million per year. https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/HOU.html



I remember Dwight Howard was also a dominant player in his prime before the injury things like Cousins. I think those teams who signed players for a high amount of salary are also gambling with their prospective players because they also don't know whether those players will suffer a major injury which changed the way they play or not.

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December 04, 2020, 12:45:17 PM
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No disrespect specially to Cousins, but he has a lot of wear and tear already, while Wall is coming off from a season ending injury so we still don't know the extend of the damage.

Honestly, based on what I see, cousins is not anymore as a valuable player as he was before.

After he got traded to the Pelicans, I think he was already battling with injury or maybe he was traded because he was battling already when he was still with the Kings, but respect to this man, he was really making the Kings at exciting team to watch during the early stage of his career, it was just the injury problem that is slowly killing his future in the NBA.

You are not the only one who sees that, it's pretty evident based on the amount of contract he had recently. He was signed for one year deal amounting to $2 million, not the usual salary for a star player because they signed at least $20 million per year. https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/HOU.html



I remember Dwight Howard was also a dominant player in his prime before the injury things like Cousins. I think those teams who signed players for a high amount of salary are also gambling with their prospective players because they also don't know whether those players will suffer a major injury which changed the way they play or not.

I think Dwight was a different player since he is more better in defense than offense, and this big guy does not know how to shot 3 point, unlike Cousins where he really developed his 3 point shooting. Dwight now does not earn a big salary as well but once in his life he was able to sign a big contract, i just hope he could come back like his old Howard but it's unlikely now as he is not getting any younger, good thing he will retire soon with a ring.

 
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December 04, 2020, 01:08:56 PM
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No disrespect specially to Cousins, but he has a lot of wear and tear already, while Wall is coming off from a season ending injury so we still don't know the extend of the damage.

Honestly, based on what I see, cousins is not anymore as a valuable player as he was before.

After he got traded to the Pelicans, I think he was already battling with injury or maybe he was traded because he was battling already when he was still with the Kings, but respect to this man, he was really making the Kings at exciting team to watch during the early stage of his career, it was just the injury problem that is slowly killing his future in the NBA.
Cousins is a strong player before both offense and defense when he was in prime but now I do not idolize him anymore because his career is soon to be over also because he is also one of the prone players when it comes to having injury like Derrick Rose and John wall. But still there is a chance that he will have good performance in this season so let's wait and see if he is still good inside the paint. The Houston will have a good season if both cousins and john wall will have healty gameplay.
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December 04, 2020, 01:29:53 PM
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The Houston will have a good season if both cousins and john wall will have healty gameplay.
I would like to believe on this but the other half of me tells me that I don't have to expect anymore that Cousins will be consistently healthy in the next season. Maybe John Wall would be healthy, but cousins, I think we've seen enough from him in his previous teams.

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December 04, 2020, 02:14:08 PM
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i just hope he could come back like his old Howard but it's unlikely now as he is not getting any younger, good thing he will retire soon with a ring.
You're right. It's unlikely that someday we will see Howard as the dominant center on the court again. He is 34 years old, and I guess that a contract for 2-3 years with a salary of $10-15 mln after the end of the coming season would be a good end for his career.

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December 04, 2020, 02:19:48 PM
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i just hope he could come back like his old Howard but it's unlikely now as he is not getting any younger, good thing he will retire soon with a ring.
You're right. It's unlikely that someday we will see Howard as the dominant center on the court again. He is 34 years old, and I guess that a contract for 2-3 years with a salary of $10-15 mln after the end of the coming season would be a good end for his career.
He needs to play very well, when he play with the Lakers, he wasn't really getting a lot of minutes but he has some significant contributions during the playoffs, and I think that's going to be his role with the overhyped sixers. We will know this soon since the regular season will start this month.

The tweet was hilarious, https://twitter.com/TheHoopCentral/status/1329943712265211904/photo/1
he did not really stay with the Lakers though.

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December 04, 2020, 02:35:22 PM
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Exactly, but I believe he will finally find a place to stay and retire, though Beal is the leader of the team but the respect to westbrook is still high.
What they really need is just a chemistry since both are great players, they can improve their team by helping each other, work as a team, not individually.
I hope so.
But it may also be the same as what happened with Houston. He may try to request a trade if he didn't like what is happening with the Wizards management.
I guess he got so much used to how he was handled in OKC.

The tweet was hilarious, https://twitter.com/TheHoopCentral/status/1329943712265211904/photo/1
he did not really stay with the Lakers though.
And he already had an answer.  Grin
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"At one point, I did," Howard said with a smile, when asked if he thought he had an offer in the opening hours of free agency. "That's when you saw the infamous tweet, because I really thought I was going back. But it was no offer.

"And I understand it's a business. The Lakers did what they felt was in their best interest, and I'm just very thankful for them giving me an opportunity to come back to L.A., and to just have an opportunity to win a championship.
He really thought he will be signed again. Well, I thought too. He did a great job during the playoffs.
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December 04, 2020, 02:46:47 PM
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Exactly, but I believe he will finally find a place to stay and retire, though Beal is the leader of the team but the respect to westbrook is still high.
What they really need is just a chemistry since both are great players, they can improve their team by helping each other, work as a team, not individually.
I hope so.
But it may also be the same as what happened with Houston. He may try to request a trade if he didn't like what is happening with the Wizards management.
I guess he got so much used to how he was handled in OKC.


Other team would not allow him to do stat padding in OKC it was obvious that he is trying to finish a triple double in every game. It's a different team again, he is a newcomer here, and this is not a Rockets team that are consistent in entering in the playoffs, he is now helping a struggling team, so if he can bring the Wizards to the playoffs, then we could say it's a success for him and he fits to the team.

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December 04, 2020, 05:58:41 PM
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No disrespect specially to Cousins, but he has a lot of wear and tear already, while Wall is coming off from a season ending injury so we still don't know the extend of the damage.
Just like our worries when someone gets injured.

The flexibility is changing and they're no longer the same as before. You're right that Cousins have gone through a lot already.

But still, who knows what will they be showing soon.

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December 04, 2020, 08:14:54 PM
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Westbrook was talked about how he wasn't liked in the locker room at Rockets, and that really hurt him, he was someone who was loved by all teammates in OKC and he gave that up to go play with Harden and let's be honest they were actually quite a good duo when you look at it on paper and they are certainly players who are great individually as well, however their play style doesn't really work when put together, which caused a bit of a trouble in the strategy, considering how Beal is a great shooter off-ball and doesn't require the ball constantly (unlike harden) and Westbrook is a great driver who can dish out, I think this could be a better result.

However more importantly, Westbrook may not even be caring about results anymore, he might be only after having peace of mind and where he can just enjoy the game, which Wizards can definitely provide.
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December 04, 2020, 09:19:57 PM
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December 04, 2020, 09:26:52 PM
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This season is over and Los Angeles Lakers already took the title. Moving forward I am excited about how each team will perform in this 2021 season. and we must admit that at first, it may be hard to identify who will be moving to the semi-finals and to the finals.
That's long overdue. And for the next season, there are already schedules that you have to see. Starting it with the preseason.

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December 04, 2020, 09:28:15 PM
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I also have a favorite team that I really follow in every game and that is Golden State Warriors ...

They will not get in the payoffs. Well, they can still do some trades but west is packed. Lakers, Clippers, Nuggets, Mavericks, Jazz, Rockets, Suns, Blazers. Already 8 teams. We dont even need to mention Thunder, Grizzlies or Spurs that can surprise. warriors in the playoff would be a huge surprise.
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December 04, 2020, 09:53:23 PM
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I also have a favorite team that I really follow in every game and that is Golden State Warriors ...

They will not get in the payoffs. Well, they can still do some trades but west is packed. Lakers, Clippers, Nuggets, Mavericks, Jazz, Rockets, Suns, Blazers. Already 8 teams. We dont even need to mention Thunder, Grizzlies or Spurs that can surprise. warriors in the playoff would be a huge surprise.

I doubt people will be surprise if Warriors will be in the playoffs, looking at the NBA futures odds., they are in the top 5 favorites to win in a championship, west teams only.

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