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July 21, 2023, 01:58:04 PM
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Harden would be a better fit for the Clippers than John Wall was. I don’t think they could win a championship with him, but they’d get further than the first round of the playoffs. I think James Harden and Paul George could make for some great highlights as well. I consider them 2 of the most streetball like players currently playing in the NBA.

It's worth noting that Leonard will likely be fully recovered by training camp. With that in mind, I don't really see how Leonard, George, and Harden will play together in the starting lineup and how they will share the ball with each other. As for whether they can win a championship, I also doubt it. Championships are primarily won by teams with good chemistry, not by teams with a lot of all-star players.

And that's why they media might be calling them another Nets?

But I do agree that there could be highlight reel as George and Harden has that street ball mentality. Nevertheless, Balmer is going to spend a lot of money here because obviously, since the Lob City with CP3, they wanted to be a contender. So we will see if Harden is going to be a good fit for them or not. And then the West is going deeper again.

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July 21, 2023, 02:24:05 PM
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Overall, yes we don't know the future of the team if Harden will be on the Clippers, but I just shared my opinion base on their performances, and experiences in the past. I hope that I'm wrong with the injury part, and hoping still that they will not get injured, but if that happen, Kawhi, PG, and Harden will be traded next year since they have an expiring contract.
Paul George may be on the trade block. That might be the cost of Harden. With the frequency of injuries that PG and Kawhi face, I would look to unload both of them for some younger talent. I cannot see a good future for the Clippers if they plan to try to keep both of these guys.

It's really hard to weight on which of the two is going to be offloaded by the Clippers. I mean after the got Kawhi, expectations was too high because he just came from Toronto and giving them their first ring.

And then he moved to Clippers with Paul George, but it was a disaster, both got injured and can't even play one whole season together. So yeah, maybe we will see either of them being traded just to get Harden.

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July 21, 2023, 02:41:14 PM
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Overall, yes we don't know the future of the team if Harden will be on the Clippers, but I just shared my opinion base on their performances, and experiences in the past. I hope that I'm wrong with the injury part, and hoping still that they will not get injured, but if that happen, Kawhi, PG, and Harden will be traded next year since they have an expiring contract.
Paul George may be on the trade block. That might be the cost of Harden. With the frequency of injuries that PG and Kawhi face, I would look to unload both of them for some younger talent. I cannot see a good future for the Clippers if they plan to try to keep both of these guys.

There issues regarding injuries is what giving a big problem with Clippers so if they want to compete maybe the best decision they could do is to have Harden in the rooster and trader either one of then since it can lessen up their loads. Then get a good player so that they can maximize their stars and maybe get a good result with that action. They already tried this duo but nothing happen to them so maybe good if they take one of them and acquire a player which doesn't have health issues.

I guess that will do instead of keeping PG and Kawhi in the same team where it will be expensive for them and not so beneficial but I think that will happen in the 24-25 season where PG and Kawhi will be traded while they are approaching their last season of their contract. Or they can do it this summer before the summer camp will commence and because sooner or later, they will be facing the same situation as these veterans aren't really that up for the challenge where they can still be a menace.
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July 21, 2023, 03:12:56 PM
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Harden would be a better fit for the Clippers than John Wall was. I don’t think they could win a championship with him, but they’d get further than the first round of the playoffs. I think James Harden and Paul George could make for some great highlights as well. I consider them 2 of the most streetball like players currently playing in the NBA.

It's worth noting that Leonard will likely be fully recovered by training camp. With that in mind, I don't really see how Leonard, George, and Harden will play together in the starting lineup and how they will share the ball with each other. As for whether they can win a championship, I also doubt it. Championships are primarily won by teams with good chemistry, not by teams with a lot of all-star players.

If it's just training camp, of course they will have their full health but all of that will change once the season will commence and they will face other teams in the league. It will be more intense as the months goes by while the season is approaching to its end thus PG and Kawhi will need to keep up with the phase, which is not definite as of this moment if they can indeed finish the upcoming season with a statement. Also, I agree with you on that Harden part, it's hard to see him in the same roster. It won't work.

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July 21, 2023, 04:31:33 PM
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Kyrie Irving is my favorite player in the NBA, and it saddens me that he's in this situation. Lebron and Kyrie were a very good duo, they played very well together.
Kyrie definitely needs to wake up, if they can get back together with Lebron they can do great things again.
Well, the reality is that we'll never see them play again. Lebron's days in the league are counted and we don't know if his wish to play with his kid is possible in the nearest future. Whilst Kyrie has been signed by the Mavs. Although trades can happen and they can meet again but who knows if this is really possible and if there's a chance, that's only very slim. LBJ has likely a big part in decision making in trades in LAL and we don't know if he likes to play with Kyrie again.

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July 21, 2023, 05:04:56 PM
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I see him in the same path of Irving, and both cant stop falling.

Kyrie Irving is my favorite player in the NBA, and it saddens me that he's in this situation. Lebron and Kyrie were a very good duo, they played very well together.
Kyrie definitely needs to wake up, if they can get back together with Lebron they can do great things again.

But all of that started to turn downhill when he asked for a trade from the Cavaliers because in his words, he said "I don't want to be a Robin to the Batman (LeBron)" and that became a nightmare because after that, he had no success and even became a diva despite all of the challenges he faced.

Yes, if Kyrie hadn't said those words, they would still have been a very good duo.
But I think they still have a chance to play together. I hope they play.

Onuralp Bitim signed a contract with the Chicago Bulls.
I hope he can improve himself here.

Wesley Matthews has signed a 1-year contract with the Atlanta Hawks.

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July 21, 2023, 05:06:29 PM
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He has taken care of himself and not just taking care but investing in the health and we can see the results of it. Despite his age, he's still like before although of course there's still the difference between his prime and his current status. But looking at the health that he's got, that's because of how he invested his money into his health and not just a few amount of money but IIRC, that's like around $1M annually. Those young calibers should do the same as his if they're having a good amount of their contracts. I am sure that if one of his sons or both of them gets in, that's one tip that he's going to teach them.

With the money that they've got from those huge contracts, they should follow what LeBron did to his health, investing to make sure that
he can last up to date and still competing.

Though it's not just investing but also taking care of it in terms of discipline, having that will and make sure that you are caring
about your future and your career, that's the legacy that he will leave from this league.

Not the same as he is from his prime, but compared to other players, it's undeniable that he is still exceeding and still capable
to play.
Not all does have the same mindset as Lebron. I was even shocked and sad that I'd watched a video of a man that has been interviewed living in the streets he said he's played with Lebron before and he ended up in a bad place for bad spending habits. That guy was Delonte West.
That's why even with those examples that they're seeing in the league itself, the habit and decision really depends on the athlete's thought and mindset.

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July 21, 2023, 05:25:09 PM
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But at least with Leonard, they were able to reach the conference finals. Leonard already had injury problems when he was still with the Raptors, but they knew how to manage him, which is why they were able to utilize him in the playoffs. There are really players who fit with one team but do not fit with another team.
Leonard is a pretty great player and can be relied on by the Clippers and during his joining he managed to give enough points for every game that could result in a win.
In 2019 Leonard also became the 6th ranked player in NBA history for players who managed to score 700+ points in one postseason.
So that naturally, the Clippers can still use him in the play-offs even though he is injured.

No doubt with the talents and skills from Leonard the only problem is the injury that really bringing him as a liability.

We see his numbers after that trade from Raptors and he almost pushes Clippers to the West finals. It reminds me back how Doc
Rivers missed that opportunity. They are close to win that series against the Nuggets but lose it all the way. Most fans anticipating
the battle against LeBron and Leonard, but it didn't happen.
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July 21, 2023, 05:48:40 PM
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If clippers somehow manages to unload Kawhi and PG at the same time, that would be an insane situation, and Harden already played back with Durant for a while, him playing with Westbrook as well would be quite funny, well he technically did that at Rockets if I do not remember wrong.

In the end, we are going to end up with something good for Clippers if they can somehow manage to get rid of Kawhi and PG, they can't really easily do that because those players do not play all that much and they worth a lot right now, their contracts are huge so it is going to be a hard job. I believe it is not going to be simple situation and lets see what they can actually do. I think the biggest trouble for them would be the fact that no team has cap that can eat it up.

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July 21, 2023, 06:13:45 PM
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If clippers somehow manages to unload Kawhi and PG at the same time, that would be an insane situation, and Harden already played back with Durant for a while, him playing with Westbrook as well would be quite funny, well he technically did that at Rockets if I do not remember wrong.

In the end, we are going to end up with something good for Clippers if they can somehow manage to get rid of Kawhi and PG, they can't really easily do that because those players do not play all that much and they worth a lot right now, their contracts are huge so it is going to be a hard job. I believe it is not going to be simple situation and lets see what they can actually do. I think the biggest trouble for them would be the fact that no team has cap that can eat it up.

Yeah it's gonna be tough getting value.  Both going towards the back end of theor careers and both of them that never can stay on the court.  Think pg's most games was 50 something in like 4 years.  Knicks fans were clamoring to trade for him lol.  I was laughing at the players and picks being suggested.  Dude who is 34 and never stays on the court.  Nope no thanks.

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July 21, 2023, 06:47:32 PM
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James Harden posted on twitter that he’s been comfortable for too long and it’s time to get uncomfortable. I’m not exactly sure what he’s referring to since he hasn’t stayed on one team long enough to get comfortable. Maybe he’s talking about his routine that has him overweight and unable to perform at the level he once could. Who knows?

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July 21, 2023, 08:08:09 PM
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James Harden posted on twitter that he’s been comfortable for too long and it’s time to get uncomfortable. I’m not exactly sure what he’s referring to since he hasn’t stayed on one team long enough to get comfortable. Maybe he’s talking about his routine that has him overweight and unable to perform at the level he once could. Who knows?

So another prophetic quote from him? Maybe he is referring to the team that he will go? Perhaps the new team will be uncomfortable with him around as their new player and perhaps there will be a big changes on that team.

Regardless, I don't see him going to the rigorous diet. But let's see, him and the Lillard are one of the most anticipated news this summer and we don't know where or what team will be their destination although they have their preferences, but so far no clear news yet.
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July 21, 2023, 11:04:13 PM
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James Harden posted on twitter that he’s been comfortable for too long and it’s time to get uncomfortable. I’m not exactly sure what he’s referring to since he hasn’t stayed on one team long enough to get comfortable. Maybe he’s talking about his routine that has him overweight and unable to perform at the level he once could. Who knows?

So another prophetic quote from him? Maybe he is referring to the team that he will go? Perhaps the new team will be uncomfortable with him around as their new player and perhaps there will be a big changes on that team.

Regardless, I don't see him going to the rigorous diet. But let's see, him and the Lillard are one of the most anticipated news this summer and we don't know where or what team will be their destination although they have their preferences, but so far no clear news yet.

Everyone sees that he does not follow a rigorous diet.

Most people are talking about which team Lillard will go to, but it's still unclear.
It's being talked about in Harden now. There is no clear news for the two of them at the moment.
Let's see what news will come.

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In the end, we are going to end up with something good for Clippers if they can somehow manage to get rid of Kawhi and PG, they can't really easily do that because those players do not play all that much and they worth a lot right now, their contracts are huge so it is going to be a hard job. I believe it is not going to be simple situation and lets see what they can actually do.

As far as the current situation for the Los Angeles Clippers is concerned, I doubt we are seeing either Kawhi Leonard or Paul George leaving the team just for the purpose of managing the salary space to acquire James Harden in return. Gotta is for real here, Clippers' only choice is to give up their several role players plus their future 1st round picks. It's like a gamble for both LAC and Sixers but no doubt, they will both win on that blockbuster trade if happened.

As I mentioned previously, the Sixers always tried their best to rebuild every year, to surround Joel Embiid with good teammates, etc. Maybe it's about time now to do a thing that they have never considered before, and that is, take Joel Embiid as the sole key player for the team and just surround him with good role players. If 2 superstars didn't work out, try the other combinations.

As for the Clippers, even if they will give up their future picks for James Harden, I don't see a chemistry problem between Paul George, Kawhi Leonard, and James Harden as even though these players are mostly used on ISO plays, they are not new playing with the same key scorer.

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July 22, 2023, 03:26:50 AM
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James Harden posted on twitter that he’s been comfortable for too long and it’s time to get uncomfortable. I’m not exactly sure what he’s referring to since he hasn’t stayed on one team long enough to get comfortable. Maybe he’s talking about his routine that has him overweight and unable to perform at the level he once could. Who knows?
The hype around Lillard now went down already because there's no progress on it anymore. Now the media is finding another star that's included in the trade talks, and now it's Harden's turn.
It's a cryptic post, and I don't know what's the point of that one but... I think he wants to be out of his comfort zone so that he can be a good help with his team. As for him staying with the Sixers, I don't know if he wants to stay or not, but if no other team wants him this off-season, I guess he has no other choice but to stay.

Regarding him being overweight, I remembered the time where he is warming up with a very fatty body back when he was in the Rockets. That's at the start of the regular season. Maybe he's doing it again.

As for the Clippers, even if they will give up their future picks for James Harden, I don't see a chemistry problem between Paul George, Kawhi Leonard, and James Harden as even though these players are mostly used on ISO plays, they are not new playing with the same key scorer.
I also see the same as well. Maybe they will give either Kawhi, or PG for Harden, or they will be having a hard time finding the chemistry.

TBH, I don't think that the Clippers need another all-star again aside from Kawhi, PG, and now Russ. What they need now are role players that will fit with the team, and can help Russ if Kawhi and/or PG get injured. I don't know if it's just me, but I'm thinking that this will be the final season of Coach Ty Lue as the head coach of the Clippers. He had enough of this load management sh*t already by Kawhi. Well, that's what I'm feeling, and I hope I'm wrong.

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James Harden posted on twitter that he’s been comfortable for too long and it’s time to get uncomfortable. I’m not exactly sure what he’s referring to since he hasn’t stayed on one team long enough to get comfortable. Maybe he’s talking about his routine that has him overweight and unable to perform at the level he once could. Who knows?

So another prophetic quote from him? Maybe he is referring to the team that he will go? Perhaps the new team will be uncomfortable with him around as their new player and perhaps there will be a big changes on that team.

Regardless, I don't see him going to the rigorous diet. But let's see, him and the Lillard are one of the most anticipated news this summer and we don't know where or what team will be their destination although they have their preferences, but so far no clear news yet.

As if he's been comfortable even once with the teams he went into after they left OKC. I feel like the team that WB, Harden, & KD was most comfortable with was in OKC, but they did not trust the process LOL! They were all too impatient and that could be the reason why they're struggling to win a championship with any team they go. KD was only carried with the 73-9 GSW to his first ring.
It could be very interesting if we see Harden and Lillard land on the same team. I guess, they're just strong in papers, but any talented team like the Nuggets could actually beat any super team in the NBA today. This isn't the 2010 era anymore where stacked teams will automatically have a ticket in the finals.

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July 22, 2023, 06:37:16 AM
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James Harden posted on twitter that he’s been comfortable for too long and it’s time to get uncomfortable. I’m not exactly sure what he’s referring to since he hasn’t stayed on one team long enough to get comfortable. Maybe he’s talking about his routine that has him overweight and unable to perform at the level he once could. Who knows?

So another prophetic quote from him? Maybe he is referring to the team that he will go? Perhaps the new team will be uncomfortable with him around as their new player and perhaps there will be a big changes on that team.

Regardless, I don't see him going to the rigorous diet. But let's see, him and the Lillard are one of the most anticipated news this summer and we don't know where or what team will be their destination although they have their preferences, but so far no clear news yet.

As if he's been comfortable even once with the teams he went into after they left OKC. I feel like the team that WB, Harden, & KD was most comfortable with was in OKC, but they did not trust the process LOL! They were all too impatient and that could be the reason why they're struggling to win a championship with any team they go. KD was only carried with the 73-9 GSW to his first ring.
It could be very interesting if we see Harden and Lillard land on the same team. I guess, they're just strong in papers, but any talented team like the Nuggets could actually beat any super team in the NBA today. This isn't the 2010 era anymore where stacked teams will automatically have a ticket in the finals.
Perhaps they are still very young then, if and my memory serves me right, they have to trade Harden then to ease their luxury taxes. But I do agree, what if prime KD, WB and Harden playing at OKC. And then they have Ibaka and Perks at the middle and Fisher at guard position.

They could compete back then, but I guess they don't have the experience back then. And then KD moving to GSW was the final nail in the coffin for them as WB can't carry the team although he has the best statistical numbers for him and won MVP.

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July 22, 2023, 08:49:53 AM
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Perhaps they are still very young then, if and my memory serves me right, they have to trade Harden then to ease their luxury taxes. But I do agree, what if prime KD, WB and Harden playing at OKC. And then they have Ibaka and Perks at the middle and Fisher at guard position.

They could compete back then, but I guess they don't have the experience back then. And then KD moving to GSW was the final nail in the coffin for them as WB can't carry the team although he has the best statistical numbers for him and won MVP.

They reached the NBA Finals but lost. After his season with the OKC, Harden had a great offer, so he had to leave OKC and join the Rockets. If I'm not mistaken, it was a great decision for him, as most players would always prioritize what they make over winning a championship, especially if a player is relatively new.

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July 22, 2023, 09:25:27 AM
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Maybe best for them to give a last chance for this current roster since they are strong already and maybe they need to develop more their chemistry so that it can give them good result. Trading their current piece might give bad effect to them since maybe they encounter a issue on chemistry again so best not to touch this current line up since who knows if these two stars can sustain to be more healthy next season then they might have a chance to win a championship.
That's true. Sometimes it doesn't really require to recruit more stars in a team but it's the chemistry that will win the game. I mean, Denver Nuggets is a good example of it. What they only added are players that would make Nikola Jokic better by surrounding him with roleplayers that can cut everywhere and shoot outside shots. Caldwell-Pope and Bruce Brown both of those players are not really stars and yet they are now champions.
Also, the patience of waiting for Jamal Murray and Michael Porter Jr. Murray even though the management is going to kick him out because of the duration of his injury but Coach Michael Malone made sure they will be patiently waiting for him and take the crown when he comes back. It was a good story of trust in their players and achieving their goals through their chemistry.

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July 22, 2023, 09:37:12 AM
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Maybe best for them to give a last chance for this current roster since they are strong already and maybe they need to develop more their chemistry so that it can give them good result. Trading their current piece might give bad effect to them since maybe they encounter a issue on chemistry again so best not to touch this current line up since who knows if these two stars can sustain to be more healthy next season then they might have a chance to win a championship.
That's true. Sometimes it doesn't really require to recruit more stars in a team but it's the chemistry that will win the game. I mean, Denver Nuggets is a good example of it. What they only added are players that would make Nikola Jokic better by surrounding him with roleplayers that can cut everywhere and shoot outside shots. Caldwell-Pope and Bruce Brown both of those players are not really stars and yet they are now champions.
Also, the patience of waiting for Jamal Murray and Michael Porter Jr. Murray even though the management is going to kick him out because of the duration of his injury but Coach Michael Malone made sure they will be patiently waiting for him and take the crown when he comes back. It was a good story of trust in their players and achieving their goals through their chemistry.
Jokic is a good teammate, that's for sure. Murray was healthy, and Jokic is playing as usual, like an MVP, making this team quite scary. Moreover, their 3-point shooting during the regular season is deadly, and their ball movement has been fantastic. Perhaps, the only problem with the teams that played against the Nuggets in the playoffs was that they didn't have someone who could at least limit Jokic, similar to how the Lakers did when they won the championship. They had Howard, who could frustrate Jokic.

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