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September 23, 2023, 09:39:33 AM |
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Man, that’s a bummer. I wonder what went wrong. It seemed like a done deal. Those reports seem like they’re from accurate sources though. Dwight Howard seemed like a perfect fit for them. He must either still be a chaotic individual off the court, or old age has come at him fast. He was just winning a championship ring 3 years ago. I also thought that it was a done deal already as Howard is a sho-in for the Warriors and it might work for him and for the Warriors as well. Maybe we will know what Dwight Howard didn't passed. Perhaps maybe his age or his antics in and out of the court. Or just the Warriors just looking for a swing man as they have already Draymond and Saric and other names mentioned as well that they could experimented and developed to become a good back up Center for them.
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September 23, 2023, 09:59:21 AM |
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Some of players that changes team offseason: John Collins Hawks to Jazz, Dennis Schroder Lakers to Raptors, Kristaps Porziņģis Wizards to Celtics, Obi Toppin Knicks to Pacers, Max Strus Heat to Celtics, Bruce Brown Nuggets to Pacers, Joe Harris Nets to Piston, Lonnie Walker 4 Lakers to Nets, Joe Ingles to Magic and Michael Beasley to Bucks.
Max Strus wouldn't vomeback to Celtics he's signing to Cavaliers this time around. And, it's not Michael Beasley tbh but Malik Beasley, was shocked to see the Bucks would be interested to Michael Beasley when he's already playing on the CBA and no rumors if he'll be back again though he play great there. Gabe Vincent as well goes to the Lakers, him and Strus are big part of the Heat's run last season leading up to their Final appearance. But I guess with that kind of performance they've showed, they have been offered a good contract and the Heat can't match it. Same with the case of Bruce Brown, he is also instrumental to Nuggets winning their NBA championship, but then again he has to move forward with a good offer from the Pacers that he can't refused, so good for him.
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September 23, 2023, 10:04:18 AM |
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Some of players that changes team offseason: John Collins Hawks to Jazz, Dennis Schroder Lakers to Raptors, Kristaps Porziņģis Wizards to Celtics, Obi Toppin Knicks to Pacers, Max Strus Heat to Celtics, Bruce Brown Nuggets to Pacers, Joe Harris Nets to Piston, Lonnie Walker 4 Lakers to Nets, Joe Ingles to Magic and Michael Beasley to Bucks. Got that summary here: https://www.instagram.com/p/CxdQ3wZrBKd/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link Thanks, I think that Raptors just taken a gem on them. Coming from the high offer of Lakers before but then Schroder declined that offer and then comes back with the little offer made by Lakers again. After the good run of Lakers last season but didn't have a good start but a good ending and as well as his spectacular performance he's got during the FIBA world cup that has made Germany their world cup title that he's lead. Well, Raptors did really acquired someone that's in their favor and he'll for sure gonna be showing us more of his better plays.
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September 23, 2023, 11:18:50 AM |
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Man, that’s a bummer. I wonder what went wrong. It seemed like a done deal. Those reports seem like they’re from accurate sources though. Dwight Howard seemed like a perfect fit for them. He must either still be a chaotic individual off the court, or old age has come at him fast. He was just winning a championship ring 3 years ago. I also thought that it was a done deal already as Howard is a sho-in for the Warriors and it might work for him and for the Warriors as well. Maybe we will know what Dwight Howard didn't passed. Perhaps maybe his age or his antics in and out of the court. Or just the Warriors just looking for a swing man as they have already Draymond and Saric and other names mentioned as well that they could experimented and developed to become a good back up Center for them. Media makes it looks like a done deal that's why many Warriors and Howards fan that it was a success deal between both parties. But news came out and this is unfortunate events since fans is really hype up for the fact that Warriors will get a legit center now. It seems that Kerr will stick to his small ball line up and this is what Warriors fans worried about since many think that they will be dominated back again by Lakers or Nuggets.
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September 23, 2023, 11:24:52 AM |
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Media makes it looks like a done deal that's why many Warriors and Howards fan that it was a success deal between both parties. But news came out and this is unfortunate events since fans is really hype up for the fact that Warriors will get a legit center now. It seems that Kerr will stick to his small ball line up and this is what Warriors fans worried about since many think that they will be dominated back again by Lakers or Nuggets.
That's why we shouldn't assume anything until there's an actual contract in place. The hype they created led people to invest in the story. They knew that the Warriors are a popular team, and people's reactions showed that they believed Howard would be a great addition to the team. However, this news is truly disappointing.
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September 23, 2023, 11:48:11 AM |
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Media makes it looks like a done deal that's why many Warriors and Howards fan that it was a success deal between both parties. But news came out and this is unfortunate events since fans is really hype up for the fact that Warriors will get a legit center now. It seems that Kerr will stick to his small ball line up and this is what Warriors fans worried about since many think that they will be dominated back again by Lakers or Nuggets.
That's why we shouldn't assume anything until there's an actual contract in place. The hype they created led people to invest in the story. They knew that the Warriors are a popular team, and people's reactions showed that they believed Howard would be a great addition to the team. However, this news is truly disappointing. You can't blame the fans, mate. This is our favorite basketball league, and if a team that we also like has some updates regarding improving their lineup, it should excite us. I think fans would not be interested if Howard was rumored to sign with weaker teams like the Rockets, Pistons, or any other teams at the bottom of the standings. At least we have a clear answer now that Howard is not going to the Warriors, so we can discuss other rumors instead.
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September 23, 2023, 12:15:50 PM |
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Some of players that changes team offseason: John Collins Hawks to Jazz, Dennis Schroder Lakers to Raptors, Kristaps Porziņģis Wizards to Celtics, Obi Toppin Knicks to Pacers, Max Strus Heat to Celtics, Bruce Brown Nuggets to Pacers, Joe Harris Nets to Piston, Lonnie Walker 4 Lakers to Nets, Joe Ingles to Magic and Michael Beasley to Bucks.
Max Strus wouldn't vomeback to Celtics he's signing to Cavaliers this time around. And, it's not Michael Beasley tbh but Malik Beasley, was shocked to see the Bucks would be interested to Michael Beasley when he's already playing on the CBA and no rumors if he'll be back again though he play great there. Gabe Vincent as well goes to the Lakers, him and Strus are big part of the Heat's run last season leading up to their Final appearance. But I guess with that kind of performance they've showed, they have been offered a good contract and the Heat can't match it. Same with the case of Bruce Brown, he is also instrumental to Nuggets winning their NBA championship, but then again he has to move forward with a good offer from the Pacers that he can't refused, so good for him. I guess that's just a good venture for these players and it's not that bad if they want to increase their contract, they deserve it. I think with Strus and Vincent it was a good run for them that they get those minutes without their stars Herro and Oladipo and made it in the playoffs. Bruce Brown and with that $45M two-year contract that he signed in was really a no-brainer if I may ask, that's a good deal to grab.
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September 23, 2023, 12:35:46 PM |
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Some of players that changes team offseason: John Collins Hawks to Jazz, Dennis Schroder Lakers to Raptors, Kristaps Porziņģis Wizards to Celtics, Obi Toppin Knicks to Pacers, Max Strus Heat to Celtics, Bruce Brown Nuggets to Pacers, Joe Harris Nets to Piston, Lonnie Walker 4 Lakers to Nets, Joe Ingles to Magic and Michael Beasley to Bucks.
Max Strus wouldn't vomeback to Celtics he's signing to Cavaliers this time around. And, it's not Michael Beasley tbh but Malik Beasley, was shocked to see the Bucks would be interested to Michael Beasley when he's already playing on the CBA and no rumors if he'll be back again though he play great there. Gabe Vincent as well goes to the Lakers, him and Strus are big part of the Heat's run last season leading up to their Final appearance. But I guess with that kind of performance they've showed, they have been offered a good contract and the Heat can't match it. Same with the case of Bruce Brown, he is also instrumental to Nuggets winning their NBA championship, but then again he has to move forward with a good offer from the Pacers that he can't refused, so good for him. I guess that's just a good venture for these players and it's not that bad if they want to increase their contract, they deserve it. I think with Strus and Vincent it was a good run for them that they get those minutes without their stars Herro and Oladipo and made it in the playoffs. Bruce Brown and with that $45M two-year contract that he signed in was really a no-brainer if I may ask, that's a good deal to grab. Strus and Vincent really shone for the Miami Heat, and they used that as an opportunity to secure good deals. However, these players are considered role players as they aren't as consistent as the real superstars. Nevertheless, I'm still happy for them. There are certainly a lot of great players in the NBA just waiting for their moment to shine, and although injuries are unfortunate, sometimes they can be a blessing in disguise for players destined to excel.
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September 23, 2023, 12:39:00 PM |
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Man, that’s a bummer. I wonder what went wrong. It seemed like a done deal. Those reports seem like they’re from accurate sources though. Dwight Howard seemed like a perfect fit for them. He must either still be a chaotic individual off the court, or old age has come at him fast. He was just winning a championship ring 3 years ago.
Yeah, it looks like he's really going for it but then this is the catch that we've never expected. I'm already expecting that. Not by the Golden State Warriors just want to give a chance for Dwight Howard or offer him a veteran contract, but simply, they don't need him as part of the roster as they always have a flexible roster since then with no big man on the lineup. I also doubt that even the Warriors will sign him, he will just be a bench warmer and mostly do clapping around on the bench.
The Golden State Warriors have built by small lineup since then. Instead of giving their strength to the paint, they focused more on the outside shooting that's why they don't need a big man on their lineup. On the defensive end, it's not also a problem not having a big man as NBA today isn't that fully dominated by big man nowadays.
Dwight Howard should just enjoy being an import of the outside league and enjoy good money flowing to him before retiring.
With such money that they'll give to him as a contract, I don't think that they'll just put him on the bench but then, that won't happen anymore as this news comes out. Ah, crap. Looks like they will be staying with the small ball type of play. Well, it's their loss, and I doubt what they are saying about finding a big man later is true, it's just another statement to make it look like it's not Dwight Howard that they need.
No big man and their roster is still intact for which they are believing on it. Just like how this decision has came naturally, it's just majority of us really thought that he'll be signing. Maybe they'll be having some space for him in the future and there can be change of decisions as well. Ok, I guess the Warriors will have to look for another big man still? Or will tend still contend with the small line up. But I do not think that it will be enough, currently we have big men, like Jokic, Embiid and even Giannis or AD, and with Draymond mostly playing them, it will be hard for the Warriors with the small line up that they have right now.
They don't have the advantage on the speed, their best player is above 30++, no more young legs like Jordan Poole. But maybe they see something in Dwight that will not be perfect fit. Maybe Howard really lost some steps as he himself is also on the twilight of his career.
They've got outside shooting and it's still a different game when you've got a big man and then can also shoot outside but that's not Dwight to say but Jokic. As they're saying that they will remain with their current roster, so they would just go offensive and outside shooting as their weapon.
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September 23, 2023, 12:42:06 PM |
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They don't have the advantage on the speed, their best player is above 30++, no more young legs like Jordan Poole. But maybe they see something in Dwight that will not be perfect fit. Maybe Howard really lost some steps as he himself is also on the twilight of his career.
They've got outside shooting and it's still a different game when you've got a big man and then can also shoot outside but that's not Dwight to say but Jokic. As they're saying that they will remain with their current roster, so they would just go offensive and outside shooting as their weapon. I don't think there's anything wrong with their small-ball lineup. They won a championship with that lineup, so I guess there's nothing to change. That was also the time when Poole was playing like a true superstar. However, in the next season after he got a max deal with the Warriors, he calmed down and wasn't able to perform at that level again, so that was the main problem, actually.
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September 23, 2023, 01:26:42 PM |
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But it could be that Phoenix is looking for something that values more. I just checked Ayton's contract and he is paid an average of around $33 million. Jusuf Nurkic has lower but nearly the same output as Ayton and is only paid an average of around $16 million yearly.
So, if the trade were to happen, it should involve Nurkic and a bunch of players in exchange for Ayton, right? Well, that seems fair, but personally, I'm more concerned about Nurkic's health as he seems to be injury-prone already compared to Ayton. Also, I've seen him in the playoffs, like when the Blazers were playing against the Nuggets, and it's evident that he couldn't effectively stop Jokic. So, in terms of defense and maturity in the game, I would lean towards Ayton. But I understand that teams involved in a possible trade look at how valuable the players they acquire will be, and they wouldn't agree to it if they didn't see benefits. At this moment, I would say it's a crucial decision. It could be the scenario. Overall if I were the Phoenix Suns' management I also want to stick with Ayton. The guy has been with them since day 1 and is mostly familiar with their plays and chemistry already. If they are planning to trade Ayton then they better make it private as much as possible. Ayton may felt unwanted soon if the rumors were true that he's been in the trading block for years already. But what I know is Portland's priority right now is to get an excellent deal for Damian Lillard. I have begun to wonder if Ayton is enough for Lillard. Phoenix though has Beal already and it might be difficult to put Booker at SF.
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They might not sign him, but they will still sign a veteran though. TBH, I'm not surprised that the Warriors didn't gave him a contract. The reason why they didn't sign him is because of how the current playstyle of the Warriors are currently. We've known the Warriors as a fast-paced team, and they're one of the fastest paced teams right now in the league. Howard can't cope up because he will be having a hard time running, and running. Looney is at least faster him IMO. I think that's the reason why. The playstyle isn't fit for him. Now that he will not go to the Warriors, I wonder where he will be landing. Will other teams try to get him, and give him a veteran contract? Or will he go back to Taiwan again, and attract those NBA players to play with him in Taiwan again. Media makes it looks like a done deal that's why many Warriors and Howards fan that it was a success deal between both parties. But news came out and this is unfortunate events since fans is really hype up for the fact that Warriors will get a legit center now. It seems that Kerr will stick to his small ball line up and this is what Warriors fans worried about since many think that they will be dominated back again by Lakers or Nuggets.
Media wants hype. Media wants to hype up everything that's why they are always very overexaggerated with their articles, and even with some of their videos that's being posted on Youtube. Unfortunate? Legit Center? Is Looney aren't a legit center? You sure? I'm a Warrior fan, but if I will pick between Looney, and Howard with how the Warriors are playing, I'll still pick the player who's been playing with them for years, and that's Looney. Lol it's a no brainer. Why pick a center who's slower than your current one? They have Saric, and the rookie as their back-up bigs. They don't need a big player TBH, but I think they'll need a veteran who's good at shooting threes, or a role player who's good in offense as well.
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But it could be that Phoenix is looking for something that values more. I just checked Ayton's contract and he is paid an average of around $33 million. Jusuf Nurkic has lower but nearly the same output as Ayton and is only paid an average of around $16 million yearly.
So, if the trade were to happen, it should involve Nurkic and a bunch of players in exchange for Ayton, right? Well, that seems fair, but personally, I'm more concerned about Nurkic's health as he seems to be injury-prone already compared to Ayton. Also, I've seen him in the playoffs, like when the Blazers were playing against the Nuggets, and it's evident that he couldn't effectively stop Jokic. So, in terms of defense and maturity in the game, I would lean towards Ayton. But I understand that teams involved in a possible trade look at how valuable the players they acquire will be, and they wouldn't agree to it if they didn't see benefits. At this moment, I would say it's a crucial decision. It could be the scenario. Overall if I were the Phoenix Suns' management I also want to stick with Ayton. The guy has been with them since day 1 and is mostly familiar with their plays and chemistry already. If they are planning to trade Ayton then they better make it private as much as possible. Ayton may felt unwanted soon if the rumors were true that he's been in the trading block for years already. But what I know is Portland's priority right now is to get an excellent deal for Damian Lillard. I have begun to wonder if Ayton is enough for Lillard. Phoenix though has Beal already and it might be difficult to put Booker at SF. Nah, Ayton wouldn't be enough, even though he averaged a double-double. But with the Trail Blazers, it's an entirely different game. We've seen this kind of scenario in the past where players perform well on one team but struggle when traded. For example, Carmelo Anthony was a superstar with the NYK but struggled when he was traded, and I think there are lots of players with the same fate. So, I must say that the Suns are taking a high risk with it.
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Some of players that changes team offseason: John Collins Hawks to Jazz, Dennis Schroder Lakers to Raptors, Kristaps Porziņģis Wizards to Celtics, Obi Toppin Knicks to Pacers, Max Strus Heat to Celtics, Bruce Brown Nuggets to Pacers, Joe Harris Nets to Piston, Lonnie Walker 4 Lakers to Nets, Joe Ingles to Magic and Michael Beasley to Bucks. Got that summary here: https://www.instagram.com/p/CxdQ3wZrBKd/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link And the new coach Darko Rajakovic for the Toronto Raptors too with a history with Dennis Schroder back in Oklahoma City Thunder so I guess Schroder will be part of the starting five considering Fred VanVleet is already out and will be playing for the Houston Rockets. Barnes, OB, Poetl (claimed from SAS), Siakam, and Schroder. That will be the Raptors starting five in my opinion and Trent Jr. will be there as their sixth man which I think is best as he can be a threat as an outside shooter so whenever they need Schroder to rest the play will be so different that it could surprise any team. I don't know why the Atlanta Hawks let Collins go for Rudy Gay and a future pick. They just downgraded their roster as they received a veteran and a future so I don't think they are aiming high this year. Joe Harris's trade to the Pistons though is given. The Nets cannot take advantage of him right now because they received so many good role players with Bridges and Johnson. But the Nets badly need a star or they could create one on whoever will step up on their active roster.
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September 23, 2023, 04:30:23 PM |
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Chris Haynes is reporting that Portland is refusing to speak to Miami about a Damian Lillard trade now. Apparently they are tired of negotiations they believe are taking advantage of them and have tasked Miami with putting together a multiple team trade without any communication from them. That’s unlikely to succeed in my opinion.
The question is, who will get the trade they want? Harden to the Clippers or Dame to the Heat? Maybe both or neither?
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September 23, 2023, 04:52:57 PM |
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Ok, I guess the Warriors will have to look for another big man still? Or will tend still contend with the small line up. But I do not think that it will be enough, currently we have big men, like Jokic, Embiid and even Giannis or AD, and with Draymond mostly playing them, it will be hard for the Warriors with the small line up that they have right now. They don't have the advantage on the speed, their best player is above 30++, no more young legs like Jordan Poole. But maybe they see something in Dwight that will not be perfect fit. Maybe Howard really lost some steps as he himself is also on the twilight of his career. Maybe, as they are checking if Dwight will be fit, but maybe they see that it won't fit to what they are looking or maybe also that there are things that affect the decision from the management. We don't know if it's all about the skills and capabilities or there are also part of the negotiations that both side didn't agree upon, just for my personal take, though. Although I agree that Warriors need a more athletic player and an important presence in the paint, Dwight Howard might not be the best candidate for this vacancy. And I agree that there might be some conflict in the negotiations that we don't know and it could be anything. Also, I think there are big problems with the Warriors. Their last championship was great and it is a huge success, but I don't think there is anything left in the tank and their management is making bad moves. It is hard to creating another championship team but their recent moves and signings don't make sense in my view. They will probably make playoffs but any real success is almost not possible IMO.
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September 23, 2023, 05:22:20 PM |
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Chris Haynes is reporting that Portland is refusing to speak to Miami about a Damian Lillard trade now. Apparently they are tired of negotiations they believe are taking advantage of them and have tasked Miami with putting together a multiple team trade without any communication from them. That’s unlikely to succeed in my opinion.
The question is, who will get the trade they want? Harden to the Clippers or Dame to the Heat? Maybe both or neither?
^ I am not sure, but I think there is a chance of both the deals happening to be honest. If both the teams actually want them badly, I don't see why this trade between them is not going to happen! But in my opinion, right now the Damian Lillard trade does seem to be really hard to happen. Portland trailblazers are not being very transparent with this after all. So I think there is definitely a chance for both of the trades to happen. But the Damian Lillard one is going to be hard. There is also a chance for neither of the trades to happen. But I think that chance is actually pretty slim.
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September 23, 2023, 06:36:53 PM |
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Chris Haynes is reporting that Portland is refusing to speak to Miami about a Damian Lillard trade now. Apparently they are tired of negotiations they believe are taking advantage of them and have tasked Miami with putting together a multiple team trade without any communication from them. That’s unlikely to succeed in my opinion.
The question is, who will get the trade they want? Harden to the Clippers or Dame to the Heat? Maybe both or neither?
At this point, it's everyone's speculation. And again, this situation though might get ugly. If Portland has shut down it's door of a Lillard trade because they felt that Miami is taking advantage of them, like asking too many players + future drafts and Portland doesn't want that, then it won't happen. Maybe both will be traded soon, but not to the team that they desire. I understand that Harden and Lillard wanted out, but it might be putting too much pressure to their current teams right now. So most likely no trades to the team that they wanted to move.
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September 23, 2023, 08:15:35 PM |
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You’re all tripping about Dwight Howard. He was forced out of the league because of his sideline and locker on behavior, not because he stopped being an elite center. He’s getting older sure, but he’s still a top 10 center in the league.
Portland trying to force Damian Lillard to training camp. I’m sure he’ll cooperate, but it’s not a good look. Haven’t heard much about the Harden drama lately.
He is 37 with nearly 20 years of professional miles on him. Was pointing out he is no way going to change a team one way or another. He probably will only get 10-15 minutes a game tops and that's depending on the matchup. Throw him out there 20+ minutes and he will break down. He is a pounder that's a young man's game.
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September 23, 2023, 08:42:42 PM |
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You’re all tripping about Dwight Howard. He was forced out of the league because of his sideline and locker on behavior, not because he stopped being an elite center. He’s getting older sure, but he’s still a top 10 center in the league.
Portland trying to force Damian Lillard to training camp. I’m sure he’ll cooperate, but it’s not a good look. Haven’t heard much about the Harden drama lately.
He is 37 with nearly 20 years of professional miles on him. Was pointing out he is no way going to change a team one way or another. He probably will only get 10-15 minutes a game tops and that's depending on the matchup. Throw him out there 20+ minutes and he will break down. He is a pounder that's a young man's game. I think the Warriors for sure has taken that account into consideration when they opted him for a try out. And the same with Howard, he knows that he will be just like a 10-15 minutes player or even less, but still he take that chances, but it wasn't meant for him to be a Warriors a guess. For the Lillard and Harden drama, I would just wait for the official news though. It seems that every day there is different directions for this two whether to stay on their current teams or they be traded.
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